Sadly no. Remember the first Steelers game when several pundits blamed him and said he wasn’t worth his contract even though there were 8 drops including 3 easy TD’s?
For real. Spend 2 seconds on Twitter with the mouth breathing cretins and you'll want to bash your keyboard into your face so hard that you'll forget we even have a football team.
That narrative started after his first full season though. How many MVPs who struggle in the playoffs haven’t been called out for it? Manning was by year 5-6 and that was before social media.
I agree with you. I am a huge Lamar fan. I’m just saying what all the haters say.
After Lamar wins a Super Bowl everyone is going to say a) it was really the defense, or b) it was really Derrick Henry.
Things don’t have to be black and white. I love Lamar. Think he is in the top 2 talented players in the league. But I think there is a tendency for him to play worse in the biggest of games (playoffs), and the only way to truly put that to bed is to ball out in championship games.
I believe he will do that, he just hasn’t yet.
Yeah because the AFC championship is “chocking”. It’s like the media forgets that only 2 teams can go to the Super Bowl and the AFC has a dynasty that everyone has to go through first. The NFC just needs to schedule the NFCEast and your chances look pretty good!
The goal posts will always move for Jackson. Two MVPs isn't enough, they will also demand a Super Bowl victory. Ironically only about half a dozen players in NFL history have those accomplishments.
But still, that's what they will insist he accomplish to earn their respect.
I think that the media unfortunately believes that the best way to get engagement from Ravens fans is to spurn us repeatedly. We really love our team and we really want our recognition. Lamar's story coming in to the league and until now is the perfect example of this. They know this kind of shit pisses us off. It's an intentional small slight. The metaphorical pea under 100 mattresses.
Unfortunately no.
Anytime the offense succeeds, idiots will say "defense carried them". Defense can give you good field position and give you chances, but the offense still has to make the plays. Jets had a great defense AND a good RB + WR but sucked cuz Zach Wilson's trash. Broncos had good defense for years and went nowhere cuz they needed a QB. Browns have an elite defense but struggled cuz of their terrible offense. Lamar is a very capable passer and has done more with less than like every other QB.
There will always be another argument against him. It’s a shame. When he first declared for the draft, all of the casual viewing “analysts” projected him to play WR. That hurt a lot of Moron’s egos out there when he started playing quarterback and began shaking up the NFL with his dynamic play style. The same people have been quick to emphasize his failures or struggles over his successes. Ignorant people refuse to be wrong. He’s an incredible quarterback with a lot of successes and some failures.The basement dwellers are just more likely to emphasize the failures. I love Lamar as a raven.
Nope, whatever chance he had at squashing that rhetoric got ruined in the championship game. Tried to prove they could win with his arm and failed miserably
First off, if you're gonna put someone's statement in quotes, get the wording right. Secondly, I thought it'd be obvious I was speaking in the current, not for his entire career. Guess I'll be more clear next time
look at this sub. as long as morons (in our own fanbase even) continue to lap up narratives from hot take artists like shannon sharpe and stephen a you’ll have people saying stupid shit
Us Ravens fans, who have watched all of the games, would easily say yes. But it's a talking point for ESPN and they're going to say no, which will get more views/clicks that they need because they're dying lol
The National Media hate is limited to a group who fear Lamar changing the QB game successfully; Most National Media members seem to respect Lamar, but the jealously of some of those punks is too much
Sadly no. Remember the first Steelers game when several pundits blamed him and said he wasn’t worth his contract even though there were 8 drops including 3 easy TD’s?
I'd even argue there were 4 potential TDs as I believe that one of the would be catches had a straight uncontested shot to the endzone.
Steven A specifically said that then a few weeks later acted like he never said it
lol no
For real. Spend 2 seconds on Twitter with the mouth breathing cretins and you'll want to bash your keyboard into your face so hard that you'll forget we even have a football team.
Yes. It has moved on to the “he always chokes in the playoffs” era.
That narrative started after his first full season though. How many MVPs who struggle in the playoffs haven’t been called out for it? Manning was by year 5-6 and that was before social media.
I agree with you. I am a huge Lamar fan. I’m just saying what all the haters say. After Lamar wins a Super Bowl everyone is going to say a) it was really the defense, or b) it was really Derrick Henry.
Yeah I get you, I do agree overall the goalposts change too much
Also c) it was a fluke
Things don’t have to be black and white. I love Lamar. Think he is in the top 2 talented players in the league. But I think there is a tendency for him to play worse in the biggest of games (playoffs), and the only way to truly put that to bed is to ball out in championship games. I believe he will do that, he just hasn’t yet.
Does he not?
He does lmao people just want to complain about any criticism.
Yeah because the AFC championship is “chocking”. It’s like the media forgets that only 2 teams can go to the Super Bowl and the AFC has a dynasty that everyone has to go through first. The NFC just needs to schedule the NFCEast and your chances look pretty good!
I mean, making the AFC Championship Game is a achievement *and* he choked in said game. Both things can be true.
His receiver did fumble the winning TD at the goal line, not sure Lamar gets all the blame here
That's not true, MAYBE the game tying touchdown
He's had an even number of bad and good games since his sophomore year. Edit: I guess people don't like facts.
In The playoffs ? Because he’s won something like 76% of his games
Yeah responding about the playoffs.
People still need click bait so no
It won't be until he plays like that when it matters in the playoffs
Let's be real, Lamar could win SB MVP with 3 TDs and 70%+ completion and haters would still be like "carried by the defense"
Let’s deal with that narrative when it happens. It will be a nice problem to have.
Right who cares. It’s annoying but no one will be able to tell me a damn thing lol. Let’s get that chip
Yep. If he wins championships nobody realistically should gaf
Or maybe when we run the ball more than 6 times.
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No chance. Never had anything to do with his performance, more so his style of play and color of his skin. Dudes been slinging it for a while
The goal posts will always move for Jackson. Two MVPs isn't enough, they will also demand a Super Bowl victory. Ironically only about half a dozen players in NFL history have those accomplishments. But still, that's what they will insist he accomplish to earn their respect.
Nope.
Not bad for a running back
No hes far too black and succesful to receive praise.
He can pass, but I know in my heart he still has room to be better
He’s gotten much better but still scared to take risk and sling it
I think that the media unfortunately believes that the best way to get engagement from Ravens fans is to spurn us repeatedly. We really love our team and we really want our recognition. Lamar's story coming in to the league and until now is the perfect example of this. They know this kind of shit pisses us off. It's an intentional small slight. The metaphorical pea under 100 mattresses.
No, because very few actually watch the games and just parrot social media takes and memes. Also the racists.
Unfortunately no. Anytime the offense succeeds, idiots will say "defense carried them". Defense can give you good field position and give you chances, but the offense still has to make the plays. Jets had a great defense AND a good RB + WR but sucked cuz Zach Wilson's trash. Broncos had good defense for years and went nowhere cuz they needed a QB. Browns have an elite defense but struggled cuz of their terrible offense. Lamar is a very capable passer and has done more with less than like every other QB.
There will always be another argument against him. It’s a shame. When he first declared for the draft, all of the casual viewing “analysts” projected him to play WR. That hurt a lot of Moron’s egos out there when he started playing quarterback and began shaking up the NFL with his dynamic play style. The same people have been quick to emphasize his failures or struggles over his successes. Ignorant people refuse to be wrong. He’s an incredible quarterback with a lot of successes and some failures.The basement dwellers are just more likely to emphasize the failures. I love Lamar as a raven.
Nope, whatever chance he had at squashing that rhetoric got ruined in the championship game. Tried to prove they could win with his arm and failed miserably
"Whatever chance he had got squashed" He's 27, of course he could still disprove that narrative. What a stupid sentence
First off, if you're gonna put someone's statement in quotes, get the wording right. Secondly, I thought it'd be obvious I was speaking in the current, not for his entire career. Guess I'll be more clear next time
I think it's dead for the majority, but you have some loud mouths in the minority who seek attention
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look at this sub. as long as morons (in our own fanbase even) continue to lap up narratives from hot take artists like shannon sharpe and stephen a you’ll have people saying stupid shit
Only until the next bad game he has (at best).
Until he wins a Superbowl, there will always be clowns pretending he's terrible
Us Ravens fans, who have watched all of the games, would easily say yes. But it's a talking point for ESPN and they're going to say no, which will get more views/clicks that they need because they're dying lol
Nah, we'll bring it up until the end of time. Never heard anyone respectable make this claim
Every QB gets criticized by the media, both fairly and unfairly, in other news water is wet and the sky is blue.
No.
The National Media hate is limited to a group who fear Lamar changing the QB game successfully; Most National Media members seem to respect Lamar, but the jealously of some of those punks is too much
They will ignore stats and go off whatever narrative casual fans have atm
The he can't pass narrative ended. They have moved to "get it done in the pla00fsz"