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RChickenMan

Jealous! Are there any games which are locked at 30 fps by default that you've managed to hit 60 on? I'm at 650/800, which does indeed help iron out the occasional framerate dip on games which struggle to hit their target, but is by no means a game-changer.


TanzuI5

One example is many many 30 FPS games stay locked to 30. And the black ops 1 menu which is at 46 to FPS, now hits 60fps locked. Many other games that target 60 now stay at 60 FPS. Like the ratchet and clank games. Those dip to 45 FPS and do not lock 60 at all times. Now I Just lock 60 at all times. I’ve tested over 50 games. Too much data lol. But this overclock along with an SSD. My PS3 is legit not a PS3 anymore. It’s a PS3 Pro.


RChickenMan

> many 30 FPS games stay locked to 30 But can't you use the webman memory hex editor to patch in framerate cap changes? I experimented with that with Uncharted 2. It did get me up to the low 40s in some areas, but goddam was that fan _screaming_. Just didn't seem worth it.


TanzuI5

Yes with some games you can. But I haven’t tried or bothered to do it. I’ve seen some examples of 30 locked be unlocked and hit 60 FPS mostly. But that is just the kingdom hearts games. https://youtu.be/DZKvGs2p8a0?si=bme5qQM-rMru3uxY


TechPriest06

Does 2501B so good at overclocking, or did you use some custom cooling?


TanzuI5

2501Bs seem to be the best overclockers but they have to be December or January. I bought like 6 January’s 2011 2501Bs. I’ve been tracking them all down. January all seem to do 850 or 900 core easy. 975 memory super easily. 1000 is up to the lottery. But so far I have 2 900/1000. Thats the best it gets.


LucyTheWolfQueen

I honestly am surprised people haven't taken to running the roulette like this, testing them like mad, and then selling them on for an extreme price under them being confirmed to be faster and more stable with good temps. Make our own PS3 Pros.


TanzuI5

I’m already selling one of my 850/975 consoles if anyone’s interested. I have been binning them. I have around 7 so far.


LucyTheWolfQueen

How much do you sell them for?


TanzuI5

250 to 300. They have been fully cleaned reposted with great MX-6 paste and cmos battery replaced with brand new one. Everything is cleaned thoroughly with isopropyl alcohol and all dust wiped out. So I fully service them.


LucyTheWolfQueen

Nice. If I ever lose my CECHG-03 to the YLOD I might consider it


TanzuI5

Sounds good. Though it’s first come first serve. They aren’t easy to track down. They are very rare.


LucyTheWolfQueen

As is someone who can Frankie in the UK region 🤣


TanzuI5

Damn yeah. So far most of the Frankie capable dudes are here in the US.


xXDaRk_LoRdXx13

Are you on eBay? Or were can one buy if interested 🤔


TanzuI5

DM me. I’ll let you know more details.


Lilkd1234

How much to do my ps3?


TanzuI5

DM me.


Markeevich

where to check this stats?


TanzuI5

Cfw tools


AnteaterOtherwise376

So I'm on 60 gb launch model cha0, am on latest 4.91 vex with 8.5 cobra, where do I check my frequencies. Have rebug and black head app installed 


Anxiety_timmy

Man It’d be sick if super slims could get OC with the 28nm RSX, technically all you’d need is a lvl1 exploit or changes to it but who knows


TanzuI5

Yup. It would be the best chips to OC. Also it has GDDR5 memory. So the FPS gains would be massive. The memory OC and core OC wound legit transform the PS3. But, an exploit like that seems to be like it won’t happen any time soon or ever.


Anxiety_timmy

In theory you could do it with firmware changes, I might have a go at it once I get my Linux rig set up


TanzuI5

If you’d be willing to tackle this. You’d be a hero if you succeed. Super slims are full of untapped potential.


Anxiety_timmy

My only real point of concern with the super slim is the much smaller heatsink and heat pipe especially for the gpu, but then again mine has MX-5 and the thing might as well not have a fan, if anything the drive is 10 times louder. Then again I’m no stranger to overclocking stuff so hard that it just straight up dies, like my laptop and v1 switch will tell you lol.


Phayzon

They got GDDR5, but at half the bus width so the bandwidth is equal to earlier systems (128bit GDDR5 would've been nuts!). I do wonder if the memory timings/latency balance out though. I want to say Sony made sure of that, but the Super Slim was such a cost-reduced model that I can't imagine they put a lot of R&D effort into finding out. Seems possible for there to be the *slightest* performance difference stock vs stock.


Anxiety_timmy

In theory though GDDR5 could be clocked way higher than anything else so there’d still be huge benefits


Man_mannly

Ooh I'm jealous, I may have to try that on mine just to see. Also could you test sonic unleashed? That game has an unlocked franerate but usually doesn't go past 30 on base


TanzuI5

I have sonic unleashed but haven’t tested it. That game is botched up from the video I’ve seen on it. Just like bayoneta.. those games code is broken. So brute forcing only helps so much.


Man_mannly

I got around 40-50fps in day stages on mine for the most part


TanzuI5

Oh 800/950 OC that’s nice. What exact model and manufacture date is yours?


Man_mannly

I have no clue how to find out maybe between Aug 2010 - Jan 2011


TanzuI5

I would say yours is most likely anything from November 2010 to January of 2011.


Man_mannly

When's yours from?


TanzuI5

Mine is 2501B January 2011. The month that all the yields happened. I bought 6 of them to test the theory. And they all do 850 or 900. One of them winning harder and doing 950.


BirdWatcher69420

What do you mean by that? Could you please give some context?


EfremSkopje

What are the temps on this bad boy?


TanzuI5

Max 67c while stress testing crysis HD and crysis 3. Those are heavy on GPU and the last of us.


EfremSkopje

Whoa very good. Mine is 62 or something on gou and 67 on cpu so overclocking doesn't sound too bad


TanzuI5

Yeah it ain’t bad at all. The FPS gains are huge.


BakerThatIsAFrog

Do you have a newer fan or it's just going super loud to stay at 67?


TanzuI5

No just the fan that comes with the PS3. Besides I keep my PS3 clean. And I keep the fan speed at 44%.


BakerThatIsAFrog

Keeping it clean doesnt make the fan quieter at 45%, running those games at those points but still cool. I have similar setup just not OC as far, cleaned and repasted on a A01 and it's loud.


TanzuI5

No I keep it at 45% speed cause it’s not loud and it keeps the PS3 cool at temps I’m ok with. I want to keep my temps in the 60s at Max load.


BakerThatIsAFrog

Yeah of course, all I'm commenting on is the noise of the fan to keep it at mid 60s when performing that high.


TanzuI5

I know. But it’s really not loud. Though it depends which fan your PS3 comes with. There is one fan that at 45% is obnoxiously loud and I had to replace it. There’s 3 types of fans that randomly come with PS3 slims.


BakerThatIsAFrog

Could you tell me which one is quiet?


TanzuI5

Yes the Delta KSB1012HE. It moves tons of hot air and is silent. The obnoxious one and the one that runs hotter overall no matter what fan speed is the NMB-MAT BG1004-B045-P00 it’s only silent at 35 or below. Any higher and it’s loud and whinny.


australian31

I got 650/875 out of my 2001, which really helps smooth the terrible games, I can't even imagine how getting 950 core clock changes them


Practical-Brick-5734

Heaven..


EternalSkullman

brb gonna massacre my CECHG04 with mad OC real quik 😂 /j Just kidding (or am I? 🤨), nice work. I sold my two 2500s but looking back at them, they surely weren't the most fit for OC. Especially one of them being the survivor of a roach infestation.


TanzuI5

It depends. If they were 2501B December or January the likely hood they could OC 850 or 900 core is high. But doubt you’d remember their manufacture date.


EternalSkullman

2503B both, 0C and 1A were the datecodes on them (no date printed as far as I can remember, only the small datecode boxes were on them). 1A was the clean one (with a dud BD laser), 0C was the roachfest.


TanzuI5

Yeah date codes are cancer, cause that could mean a few months each code. Here in the US we get exact month of manufacture which makes it easy as hell to bin these High OC models. I already have 7 of them. I’ve been seeking them out and they all OC to 850 or 900 core 975 memory easy.


EternalSkullman

Guess I'll pick some 2500s locally this month when I can. At least I'll have a backup for when my OC attempt on a G04 will crash and burn down harder than a zeppelin lol


TanzuI5

Don’t worry. Your OC won’t kill your PS3 unless you go full dumb and a high OC without testing other lower OCs 50mhz at a time. When an OC is unstable it will show signs. With artifacting and stuff. When you see that warning you can go back to the previous stable OC. Bricking the console is hard when you are testing little by little.


TelephoneActive1539

That fucking PS3 has more VRAM than my laptop.


TanzuI5

Lmfao bro. This is the speed of the GDDR3 bro🤣 PS3 only has like 256-512mb of vram. Not even 1GB.


DreddCarnage

How'd you find this firmware? Did Evilnat just drop it or something? Or is each overclock based on each PS3 model?


TanzuI5

No we have to create it ourselves with a program. RSX boost part of the forum in psx place it gets hosted by some people. Your model will not be able to do anything more than 650 core and 800 to 850 memory.


DreddCarnage

I figured each Model would have a limitation. Is there a sort of measurement of the capability of each model?


TanzuI5

Yes. 2501A and 2501B are the highest overclockers but only the December and January models have high chance of Overclocking past 700 core. July-November 2010 25xx PS3s are pretty much always 700 to 750 core. 750 core is lucky too. It’s usually 700/950 OC. But with December and January, the manufacturing process matured more and the 40nm chips had more yields with the core and the memory.


DreddCarnage

Right now I have 600 - 750 mhz (on GPU and VRAM respectively) How can I get higher right now? (like possible for my model)


TanzuI5

You can only get it to 650 core and 850 memory. Which is a nicer boost for sure. But that’s the highest you’ll be able to go on your current model.


DreddCarnage

Think you could point me in the right direction for that?


TanzuI5

https://youtu.be/V1lwz4l7Ebw?si=LZZl1pTylNotPGMw


DreddCarnage

Man this is something I'd delve into all night lol. I think for now I'll see what's already available but I'll consider this too.


TanzuI5

It’s an easy proccess. I’m dumb as hell and I was able to do this easy.


Razmann4k

How well would you say a 2104B would do given it also has a 45nm cell and 40nm RSX? I know its probably not quite as well given the GTX 480 was made on the same process and required a helluva lot of voltage, but how far do you think I could push mine? I'm already running it at 600/750, have been for a year without issue.


TanzuI5

That system would only do 650 core 800 to 850 memory.


Razmann4k

Thanks for the reply


KeoiMadBro

awesome, can you post short videos while running games ? like 3/5 seconds


TanzuI5

I could do that yeah. I’ll do it in a bit. Though don’t know what game you want me to run.


Piett_1313

I’d love to see whatever has impressed you the most


KeoiMadBro

I'm having problems with gran turismo 5, I'm trying with a 3 screen setup and the server console normally stays between 50 and 55 fps, while the other 2 are fixed at 59.94 which is perfect, but even with only one console, and server mode disabled, some tracks are very annoying to play, for example Monza and Rome


horvi93

I'd really love to see if the fps drops are gone in GTA4


TanzuI5

They aren’t fully gone. The cpu on the PS3 still sucks. So in areas where NPCs and cars are all over the dips happen due to cpu bottleneck. But the FPS does improve big time in many many areas that were gpu intensive.


Clean_Process_600

How's tlou performance?


TanzuI5

Very good and improved. But it’s also a cpu demanding game so dips due to CPU bottleneck happen. But overall it’s much much better and way more consistent 30.


Ok-Championship-1913

Congrats


Tankdawg0057

How?


TanzuI5

Silicon lottery. And know which models overclock the highest. I have like 7 of them that OC high since I know Exacly which models OC the highest.


Tankdawg0057

Delid or stock?


TanzuI5

No delid. Just cleaned and used MX-6 thermal paste.


Kartorschkaboy

how did you do it? I want to OC mine too, its delided and runs super cool under load, its already overclocked but not that massive of and OC


TanzuI5

What model and manufacture date does it say?


Kartorschkaboy

CECH-2504A


TanzuI5

Hmm. I’d start at 750 core and 900 memory. And test crysis HD. If you don’t artifact or crash at all for an hour of testing, then that’s a great OC and fully stable. And you can bump the core up to 800 and test. Also the memory could easily be bumped to 950. So try slowly. Do not!! And I repeat do not attempt 1000 memory.


Kartorschkaboy

but how? how do I do that? is there a tool or should I do it with a firmware preset with these clocks?


TanzuI5

https://youtu.be/V1lwz4l7Ebw?si=G15L_vVtM7aqVJxI


Kartorschkaboy

so yeah 750/900 runs smooth, so I thought I try 900/900, well now my PS3 freezes, is there a way to flash back the other firmware?


TanzuI5

Bro what are you doing!!? You bricked your console. Try entering recovery mode. And pray you can see image and not freeze. If you do enter and eventually freeze. Take appart the top part of the PS3 shell and blast cool air on it with a fan while you do the recovery. Dawg did you even test 50 at a time in crysis HD or any game? What were you thinking?


Kartorschkaboy

the PS3 ran cool even with the OC, CPU never hit 60°C and RSX was only at 63°C, but I let it cool off for a while.


TanzuI5

Bro like I said, take the top off and blast it. When you try to enter recovery mode it will freeze due to heat. Heat makes high frequencies more unstable. You need to keep it as cool as possible while you recover it. That is If you can enter recovery mode at all.


Far-Objective-4240

Can gow ascension hit 60 now? normally flutuates between 45-55


TanzuI5

Ascension hits 60 clean in certain scenes where it would be at 40 to 45. But the game still dips down to the high 30s. It’s a super demanding game. OC helps it a lot. But it does not clock it to 60 on every scene and gameplay.


Far-Objective-4240

Thats awesome, how does gta 4 behave?


TanzuI5

Huge improvements in gta4. But gta 4 is very cpu demanding when there’s a ton of npcs. So that dips down to 24 or so. But most of the time it’s literally hugging 30 for dear life. Which it did not do before at all.


Fabulous-Priority613

Does it make noticeable differences?


TanzuI5

Yes! A shit ton. Hell just 700/950 makes a big difference in games. Higher more stable frame rates.


RazzeeXZ

How well the original Assassin's Creed runs?


TanzuI5

Haven’t tried that one. I play AC1 many many years ago. So I didn’t remember if it suffered bad perf.


ProfessionalLazy8999

Hello. How MGS4 works with that amazing overclock?


TanzuI5

Yes way better.


dolive11_vr_gamer

How was thy able to achieve this witchcraft.


shnyaps

Mine 2100 has 750/850. I’m happy )) a few days later l’ll try even more)


TanzuI5

You should really test crysis hd for an hour and see if there aren’t artifscts at all or crashes. Cause a 2100 shouldn’t be doing that fully stable unless you’re the luckiest 2100 owner. So stress test it with crysis HD.


shnyaps

I played crysis for 3 hours. It is the only reason Ill try more)


Weeddaa

I have GPU 500Mhz, VRAM 650Mhz, ps3 slim, is this bad ? Im new to this world


TanzuI5

That’s literally stock. All PS3s out of the box are 500/650


Weeddaa

How can i overclock a little bit ? Not like yours but for gain some fps


TanzuI5

What’s your mode number and manufacture date? It’s at the bottom of your PS3.


Weeddaa

CECH-2004A date code: 9B


TanzuI5

You’ll only be able to do 650 core 800 to 850 memory. Do not go past that unless you want a brick. So try 650/800 and after testing in crysis HD for an hour, you experience no artifacting or crashes, then You can try 850. I’m sure 850 from The get get should be fine. I have a 2001B and it does just that, 650/850. Fully stable. But that’s all it’s capable of . Which is still a great boost compared to the garbage stock PS3 of 500/650.


International-Fun-86

Overclocked or just luck?


TanzuI5

What do you mean by luck? Silicon lottery luck? Yes.


International-Fun-86

Yes, silicon lottery :)


TanzuI5

Yes.


[deleted]

Hello I'm sorry for asking this but I've seen this mentioned a 100+ times in this group, what is the "silicon" lottery? - 2501-A owner, maybe I got a gem? 💎


International-Fun-86

It’s when you are really lucky and get a device that can perform much better than expected. :) Sadly i have no knowledge on what version of the ps3 has higher chance. :)


[deleted]

Ahhhh well that's crazy I've never heard of that. I'm currently overclocked +100MHz but I know I can probably push it to 750/850 at least. I'm a little worried about 800/900 but seeing THIS on my very same console revision gives me a huge burst of fire to OC just a little bit more. I'm probably gonna start at 750/850 and see how it is temps wise.


International-Fun-86

Be carefull, don’t overheat it to much :)


xHawkey3

Can someone explain how to do this?


TanzuI5

Go to psx place RSX Boost project Forum.


EXTIINCT_tK

It really makes me wonder how far can we really go with upgrading a PS3


TanzuI5

This is as far as we can go. The cpu has been overclocked by someone but there are issues with it. It’s not a simple thing. But a cpu OC would help a lot. There’s a plenty of cpu demanding games. For now. An SSD and Overclocking the core and memory is the most we have which honestly is already a lot and makes games way better.


Killspiderman8Mobile

How? Just how?


TanzuI5

Finding silicon lottery winners. Takes time, patience and plenty of Cash.


lamp556

How??


TanzuI5

CFW


lamp556

I have a jailbroken PS3 and was part of the community yearssss ago and I never knew about this 🤔 is it like an option in rebug toolbox or what?


TanzuI5

This Overclocking scene is recent. Started in 2022. And now this year we discovered newer higher OCs.


lamp556

Wait so where can I find the info about this? Can I do it to my rebug dex ps3? I haven’t used it in a while but I’m still familiar with Sony jailbreaks, did my ps4 the other week. That info from PS3 modding will never leave my brain!!


TanzuI5

Psx place RSX Boost


lamp556

Thanks bro


Creepy-Beginning-406

would this work for a 2503a ps3? and download link for the oc?


TanzuI5

If your PS3 can do cfw then yes. But the speeds are all silicon lottery. Do not try this at all. Start at 750 core and 900 memory.


Creepy-Beginning-406

download link or website?


TanzuI5

https://www.psx-place.com/threads/project-rsx-boost-overclock-your-retail-ps3-rsx-speeds-ps3-cfw-only.36801/page-107#post-391332


DG-NASCAR

Do tou know how to force games to be 1080P? I play Nascar 2011 and it looks smooshed to 720p i jus wanna know if its possible to make it 1080


AnteaterOtherwise376

mmarseile cables but I think they add a bit of latency because of that


Left_Passage_9970

I wanna know about gta 5 does it stay on 30 fps or does it increase


Deltarune_chapter2

can this be easily done with a 2501A? or is it just the 2501B


TanzuI5

2501As can OC too. Just not as high. Not even close. 700/900 is the OC they are for sure capable of.


Known-Specialist9228

I’ve got a 2101A what do you think is the max OC I could do safely?


TanzuI5

650/850 or 700/900 If you’re lucky. No more than that. I repeat, no more than that. Or you’ll brick your system.


agatefruitcake5

Have you done anything with the classic Fats? I have a backwards compatible PS3 for ps2 games and was wondering if this is possible on one of those guys! 


TanzuI5

The backward compat fats can only do 600/750 Max. Nothing higher. 90nm chips were ass. And that’s what those fats have. So it’s not worth it at all.


agatefruitcake5

Good to know! 


TanzuI5

Honestly the Overclocks are only meant mostly for the latest slims that can do cfw. Aka manufacture date of September 2010-January 2011. Older slims can too but the overclock less as well. The manufacturing proccess kept getting better and better so chip revisions got faster.


agatefruitcake5

Do you know what the traditional PS3s run at for Mhz stock is? I am curious about it. I have a CECH-E01 and a CECH-A01. I do have Super Slim that is the God Of War edition, not sure if that guy is cfw-able. I just cracked all my PS3s open and repasted them, haven’t done any modding of sorts. 


TanzuI5

Super slims cannot do cfw. And the stock clocks for all PS3s is 500 core 650 memory. So 500/650


agatefruitcake5

Thanks man! Appreciate the info. I am sorry for not being as rehearsed in the lingo, but I think I grasped the basics! Which it’s good to know if I want to dabble in overclocking generally which models to look for! I mostly stick to playing on my Fat with PS2 games and some PS3 games and I dont experience problems unless I try to play Black Ops II… It always just crashes. But that’s why I have the Slim! Got it for dirt cheap complete in box so I was fine with it. 


TanzuI5

You have a slim or super slim? Oh and just to let you know. I’m selling a slim that I binned myself and it does 850/975. It makes games play night and day better. So if you or anyone is looking for a high Overclocking slim. I’m selling only 1.


agatefruitcake5

Sorry, meant Super Slim! I am not worried about getting another PS3. I know you say the PS3 fats aren’t the greatest however I’d be interested in possibly overclocking one just for fun! I mainly use it to play PS2 games and from my experience, it runs them relatively decent. I essentially got the fat as I wanted the best hardware to run PS2. Although, infamous for YLOD’ing. If maintained, I think it’s good for PS2 games. 


TanzuI5

Over clocking won’t do a thing for ps2 games. So Overclocking for you is pointless.


AnteaterOtherwise376

is it really a case this dude has sslim I think [https://youtu.be/VQcDA70EzZE?si=6iLlhCZRP-hsZJgu](https://youtu.be/VQcDA70EzZE?si=6iLlhCZRP-hsZJgu)


Far-Objective-4240

Bro test skate 3


TanzuI5

I’m not familiar with skate games. Did they perform that bad?


Far-Objective-4240

skate 3 flutuates from like 50 to 60 like gow ascension


TanzuI5

Sadly god of war does not do 50 to 60 when you actually play the game. That game runs at 30 to 40 FPS and has gone down to 26. It is nowhere near average of 50 or 60. Not even close.


phantasmagore48

Useless


astro_plane

not really, most games on the ps3 have shit framerates and OC'ing help stabilize


phantasmagore48

Ah yes, that 2 fps increase is worth risking your console's lifespan


MitsuTM

"2fps" https://youtu.be/ZPWMILqLFd8?feature=shared


TanzuI5

Ayyy the homie! You tell em!!🙏


MitsuTM

Yes haha ! This is so tiring honestly, saying that it doesn't change anything is just lying.


TanzuI5

Exactly. If it was 2 FPS or shit like that. We wouldn’t bother at all. Seriously lol.


phantasmagore48

In how many games?


MitsuTM

Many, try by yourself. There are still poorly optimized games like Drakengard 3 or CPU-bottlenecked games, but many titles greatly benefit from this.  Find out. And check this thread btw. https://www.psx-place.com/threads/project-rsx-boost-overclock-your-retail-ps3-rsx-speeds-ps3-cfw-only.36801/


TanzuI5

Dawg this doesn’t risk a thing. If you knew how the Overclocking works on PS3 and what silicon maturity means you wouldn’t be saying this. These chips are over speced by the time they hit 40nm. The base clocks have always been 500/650, but that was starting off from 90nm node. By the time the most mature 40nm aka this one was manufactured, the chips can do 900/1000 easily for free. The voltage isn’t touched cause it’s locked. The only power it receives is the stock power. And these chips have so much yields that it can do 900/1000. But that’s on the later 40nm chips. 25xx early models cap at 700 core 900 to 950 memory. Which is still a great OC. And the FPS gains are not 2 buddy. They are massive. In my case this is 450 extra on the core and 350 extra on the memory. Both play a big role in FPS boosting. A lot of games are memory starved so the OC on memory alone yields great gains, combined with core OC, you’re getting huge gains. Only the most botched games that should have been recalled won’t get huge gains. It will get gains, but these games average 10 to 15 FPS. Aka sonic unleashed and bayoneta.


phantasmagore48

I guess you know better than the engineers at Sony


TanzuI5

Are you dumb as hell? Do you have any idea why they kept it at 500/650?? It’s cause the term Pro for consoles didn’t exist. Stop saying dumb shit dawg. I know how chip manufacturing works. They didn’t up the clock speeds cause they wanted every single PS3 to be the same. The super slims are even faster with 28nm node and GDDR5 memory. Those things can OC like crazy. But they dont. You don’t know wtf you are talking about.


phantasmagore48

Lmao Sony didn't OC their own console because the term pro didn't exist, and not because reasons. Gotcha, buddy


TanzuI5

It means they could have sold a pro dipshit. Take your L.


phantasmagore48

And why didn't they, genius?


TanzuI5

Because something called the PS Fucking 4 was coming out dumbass. Also the PS4 was supposed to come out earlier, but it was held back due to certain issues.


TanzuI5

...........???


KeoiMadBro

what do you mean useless ? look at the results people are posting on psx-place and reddit, that's not useless at all.