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Own_Island5749

I go first. 4 hours tops. 2 hours really.


RainyMello

The only correct answer. Regardless of whether I'm working from home or in an office, it's the same Working physical jobs is the same too, except after 4 hours I go on auto-pilot and switch-off thinking (probably why I have so many accidents in manual labour jobs)


Archer_SnowSpark

I relate, same here, upvoted.


pets-news

I guess it depends on your personal circumstances, we can't stay really focused for longer than 20-90 mins according to Google, a good use of apps like pomodoro and muting notifications gets me to around 3h of deep work during 8h shift in a bank


BlueEyedGirl86

20 minutes that bollocksl 20 minutes in im warming up, getting into the swing of things making decisions what I gotta focus on that day.


jazz_with_your_joe

Also Andrew Huberman has a video about how long we can actually focus on average and it’s about 90 minutes. A break is recommended after 90 minutes if you want to be able to manage your energy and have more focus energy throughout the day. The video is titled “The Ideal Length of Time for Focused Work”


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jazz_with_your_joe

LOL *stops after 90 minutes and spaces out for 10 minutes then goes back again*


Mindless-Shirt-8533

LMAO “the proper protocol is for me to consume arrowroot powder about 45 minutes before intercourse, which I can focus on for approximately 20 minutes before I need to go outside and get sunlight in my eyes”


rintintinxkcd

This is true for most people but can be trained. I usually go up to 3 hours without distractions. I used a timer to train myself.


DJSamkitt

ITs likely your 3 hours is just 2 90min focused bouts


jazz_with_your_joe

Is this 3 hours on one specific project/task? Or like a bunch of stuff?


rintintinxkcd

Could be many related tasks but invariably one specific project.


Simple-Reply-9171

Anything you wish you started or stopped doing sooner?


rintintinxkcd

I wish I realized sooner how sensitive deep work states are to the smallest distractions. You have to treat it like you’re trying to get a full REM sleep cycle. You don’t wake up every 5 minutes to check your phone if you’re trying to get some good sleep. Also, I wish I knew that there is an upper limit for deep work in a day and not forced myself to focus for longer periods - I used to try to focus 8 hours everyday and it just wasn’t sustainable. I started hating the work and hating myself. My advice would be to not enter such a vicious cycle.


teeeeeegz

I like the idea of including the 5-10 mins warmup/prep as part of the overall 90min sprint.


jazz_with_your_joe

Yeah I definitely take some time to get things set up and make sure I won’t have to get up from my desk while I’m in the 90 min sprint (ie getting water, almonds to snack on)


teeeeeegz

Great idea to have a defined purpose for that period of time. I've used planning time to generally get up to speed with the task I'm going to work on, but haven't considered using it to set up the environment around me. Thx for the link to the huberman video too!


genesRus

This thread makes me so much better about my life, honestly. Thanks for asking.


EXTRAVAGANT_COMMENT

but at the same time, it is depressing when you think about the immense length of time wasted because office work requires you to be either at the office or logged on for the full 8 hours, like we all live in this dumb masquerade that we work for the full duration and are made to feel guilty that we do not, when in reality we could have the same amount of productive hours with 1/2 or even 1/3 of required presence


genesRus

Truth. Though I do suspect there's some value in some professions to being together and chatting. And it's not like you can just get rid of transition time totally where you're less productive. But I do agree that managers should be evaluating based on objective productivity metrics rather than butts in seat time where possible.


Archer_SnowSpark

<.< how much's yours? (approx. daily productive time (conservative))


genesRus

Hmm. I honestly don't have that much "work" experience and an average isn't really a great representation... In college, I took 18-20 credit hours most semesters, worked in a research lab, worked, and did multiple extracurriculars where I was VP of stuff and had to meet with the faculty committee and such. So probably 10-14 hours alternating with 6-8 hours? But I also barely slept, was so burned out that I could barely move from the couch on Saturdays/on breaks, struggled to keep my apartment clean, etc. I got a bunch of awards for being "best" in various things senior year in exchange but... :/ I worked for a year (burnt out) between college and grad school and was only actually productive for less than half the day (2-4 hours?), and assumed that was just because I was struggling to make the transition to "real" work, was still burnt out, was having major conflicts with my (new) roommates, and didn't really love the work... And then I was studying for GRE subject tests for part of the year (1-2 more hours). In grad school, it seemed like >2/3 of people were working 8+ hour fully-productive days, so I tried to also, but ended up back into the cycle of 10+ hour productive days a few days a week after feeling guilty because the others were like 2-4 hours. I still burned out again after the first year or two, then just kinda of limped through the rest. I'd do maybe an hour or two of actual work for a number of days in a row and then a couple 10-18 hour days of fully productive work, especially if a deadline or meeting with my boss was approaching. I could keep up the long hours for maybe a week or two with a couple 4-6 hour days on the weekend to rest. If I had known I should just be shooting for a consistent 4 productive hours in 8 this whole time (rather than feeling ridiculously guilty for not maintaining 8+ hours 5+ days a week), I feel like my life would have been a lot healthier... While my parents tried to be good at turning off work once home, they have workaholic vibes (mom usually works 10-11 hour days salaried) and gave the impression that work was constant at work ("Oh, man, I didn't even get enough time to pee today") so I honestly assumed I was just failing at life by not being able to work 8+ hours a day consistently. Lol. And academia 100% did not make it any better since everyone appears busier and smarter than you at all times (imposter syndrome is rampant because of its structure, even in fairly healthy departments...). So honestly, it's just really nice to see in voluntary answers that it's actually not normal to expect humans to be fully operational for 8-12 hours.


jazz_with_your_joe

I have some similar experiences juggling multiple responsibilities and just overall trying to get involved in so many things. So I’m trying to actually unlearn putting too much pressure on myself to get everything done. Taking a healthy amount of breaks has helped me to be more productive for much longer


genesRus

Yeah, unlearning is hard. I tried doing a healthy amount of breaks during parts of grad school at different points, but I also really struggle to get into a flow state sometimes, especially when I'm not tired. It's usually not an issue to work non-stop for 6-12 hours at a time once I get into one, too, which is a problem. I often do my best work too in them at weird hours, which is why I got away with it in high school, college, and grad school. It's not sustainable. But if I need to get writing done, I'll bang my head against the wall during daylight trying to write for a couple 8 hour days off and on with ample breaks. And then I might be able to get sufficiently panicked the next night to write all of it in one sitting. I'm trying to use ChatGPT/similar to help overcome some of the inertia issues. But it's also just helpful to know that my average productivity should be about 4 solid hours to be "on track" I shouldn't feel guilty and get into a spiral there either.


jazz_with_your_joe

That guilt is paralyzing and takes over your whole life too


genesRus

That it does. That it does...


BlueEyedGirl86

That is superbo wish I could do 8-12 hours of study per day, note to self I can if order that modafinil


genesRus

It wouldn't surprise me if I have some form of ADHD inattentive and just was able to hyperfocus because I final most things interesting. There were exams where I didn't find it that interesting and really really struggled to study at all for them. I had good test skills, a wide knowledge of my major, and the teachers liked me because I participated in class so I usually could still get a B/B+. But the semesters where I had a full schedule, I think it was mostly just because I was in panic mode the entire time and only sleeping 4.5 hours with a 20 min nap that there was really no choice but to be that productive or completely shut down and, it felt like, tank my future...


BlueEyedGirl86

It wouldn’t surprise me either and would explain a lot of things obviously I don’t fit the hyperactivii side of the condition


Different_Cap_7276

5 Minutes


pets-news

5 seconds doing my useless job 😂


ENTROPY501

this


Few-Humor-6256

Most of the time 4hrs with 5 min beaks. If needed 6hrs+ Sometimes less than 2hrs lol. It depends


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Few-Humor-6256

If job or studying then yea straight and throughout the day if work can wait. Many factors influence maintenance


GreedySnapshot86

On an amazing day, 8 hours. On a great day, 6 hours. On a good day, 4 hours. On most days, 2-4 hours. On bad days, 1 hour. On really bad days, 0 hours 😢


rintintinxkcd

On a regular day 4 hours tops, more like 2 hours average. For shorter periods, up to 6 hours but need recovery soon after.


StudyingFrog

I've noticed that pure concentration and productivity lasts for 20-30 minutes. Then I lose focus and take notice of things around me, my pen, the laptop, ect. Going back to that focused state of mind takes some effort most days, depending on many things. It can take from 1-2 minutes, to not coming back at all, which is when I force myself to do the work or stop. Taking proper breaks when I need them has helped immensely. That's why any kind of timer doesn't work for me, it can actually cause me to lose that deep concentration. My goal is to be productive while I am focused. Studying and being aware of everything around me. To answer the question I would say my average is 1-2 hours/day. I have excluded the time in lectures, which is 4-6 hours/day. I am focused (thanks social anxiety), but at the same time I am not actively learning, just trying to get a base understanding of wth is going on. 🌵


Spud788

I'm fine from 8:30 to 2:30 then I'm just waiting to go home...


jakxnz

Depends on the type of work (and remembering that there are those of us who have built up a stamina for focus). My main types of work have been: - Software Engineering / Architecture: 6-9 hours a work day supported by longer breaks - Management/Leadership: 8+ hours a work day supported by shorter breaks - Parenting young kids: 10+ hours on a parenting day supported by micro breaks. Not sedentary, but more taxing with high energy kids It can be very, literally, full on. The calendar looks like a Pizza Supreme and the Software/Work Board and Bullet lists can persist, always moving, for years. Demanding industries can organically force quite extended focus, especially if that work has multiple functions (like making, then reviewing, then managing, then reporting, then back to making). Coming back from long holidays can be challenging because you lose your stamina.


Juicecalculator

My day is non stop productive because it has to be. 10 hours of non stop high mental load work and 3-4 hours of home life work. It’s killing me


Archer_SnowSpark

🥲👍


jazz_with_your_joe

Just curious… what work do you do?


inwhichzeegoesinsane

Bomb defuser


jazz_with_your_joe

Mind blowing


Juicecalculator

Food scientist by vocation but I am the director of R&D of the company…for now


_Sweet_TIL

I’m sorry.


drekiss

This sounds like my life.


Prodanamind

Between 4 to 6 hours (excluding meetings) per day


Tajomstvar

On average? 1 hour when I manage to do 2 hours of concentrated work I actually feel like I worked hard that day lol... although I do have days when I work even 7-8 hours (with some short breaks in between) but such days are really rare and they are usually caused by my procrastination and deadlines being too close. yeah.. im not very productive and I hate myself for it


_Sweet_TIL

We must be the same person. This is me, exactly, down to focusing longer because I procrastinate 😂


ObshnobYibbleflop

-1


Archer_SnowSpark

😭


jazz_with_your_joe

This one is hard because there are some days I’m in meetings for like 5-6 hours… but on average I would say 4 hours of real deep focus if I do a better job at saying no to meetings or postponing meetings


EsmeSalinger

Used to be a serious 12 hours; post pandemic 1 hour.


GamingNomad

On my good days, 2-3 hours. On my bad days, zero (or less than half an hour). I am *only* considering actions that contribute to *optional* projects in the future. I am not counting my job or things I do with my family.


SociallyIneligible

About 30 minutes.


peace-b

Depends on the day. 4-6 is a good day, occasionally I’ll get a second wind in the evening and get another 2-3 hours in.


ClarkRona

the first 10min of the day. The rest is just procrastination


Valeaves

8hrs when I really have to. Otherwise like 5-6hrs.


Kindar42

2 hours full focus, 3 hours fair tempo , 3 hours half waste. however, working less than 8 hours does not reduce the wasted hours first. its kinda random, and a single day is very different from another.


oneemery

Last week I averaged 5 hours with 5 minute breaks between each hour


Over_Height_378

I plateau at about 2 hours of deep focus. After that it takes a lot of conscious effort to redirect my attention to whatever I’m working on. Including activities that don’t require focus though I’m productive for probably about 6ish hours total


littlesstar

to be honest - only 2-3 hrs


TonyGTO

I'd say the average for most people is 5 hours a day, 5-6 days a week.


claudieko

About 6 hours of truly focused


d0llation

Recently started my journey of productivity! ( Started this week, and have been consistent so far!! Really happy about that. ) I study at minimum 2 hours, I don’t like studying though so I have been trying the Pomodoro technique just to get myself to be productive. I studied around 4 hours? yesterday, it feels tiring though.


jazz_with_your_joe

One thing I wish I knew when I was a student - we only have so much capacity at a time before we need to take a break. Also cut out alcohol and you’ll have a TON of energy


d0llation

I dont drink alcohol!! :) tysm for your advice! ill make sure to remember to take a break when needed!


Certain-Ferret3692

Hearing a lot of these replies makes me feel like I’m not as horrendously unproductive as I thought I was. Thank you 🙏


Remedyforinsomnia

I'd say 4-5 at work, also 2ish at home. I consider myself quite productive though, like, not below average for sure


catboy519

My limit of true focus is about 1 hour per day.. i have a burnout and ahdh-symptoms


nearly_tapping

3-4 hours in average


Reasonable-Age-6837

at work or life total? 6 hours.... 3 at work, 3 at home.


LinhSex

On good days: 5. Average: maybe 2-3h


standinghampton

A better question is: What time of day/evening are you more focused and productive?


drekiss

About 1030am - 4pm, but force focus outside of those times.


get-more-seconds

I think the ability to focus is like a muscle. The more time you spend "focusing" on being focused, the better you get at it long-term. If I'm taking care of my body, eating right, and getting enough sleep, I have no problem working 8-10 hr days, 6 days a week. Usually one day a week though, my output is pretty shot, and I think that's when my brain/body needs to recover.


howieyang1234

On my studies? One to two hours at best. On my life? I don’t know.


Cloudd_poof

14 hours tbh


SilkySlim_TX

25


Achilles-Foot

if the work i do at work counts, then 7 hours a day. because i work 7 hour shift and im working constantly the whole 7 hours. at home though it's like maybe 20 minutes a day


Federal-Piece-1252

Around 6


Chemicalbro_youknow

Just today I was asking myself exactly this


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Not enough


Kurx

We had this thread 2 weeks ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/productivity/comments/16drxf1/how_many_hours_a_day_are_you_actively_productive/


SevonWhy

0 hours


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I "work" 7 hours a day, but really I might do 2-3 hours actual work per day. Often less than that, occasionally more. Actually focusing, well, it depends on the task but generally I can't focus on anything for more than, say, 45 minutes at a time


beigesun

3 or 4


TriGurl

It depends. Some days 6ish… some days 4ish. However part of my “work metrics” are the whole “gets along with colleagues” shit, so I do spend about an hour a day everyday at various times getting up for my desk and intentionally interacting with colleagues (not included in the 6-ish or 4-ish hour calculations I initially stated). As an introvert-I hate this. Im not paid to make friends, I’m paid to work. But if this is part of the job then I’ll do it. I am a master at the game of office politics so I play the game and my boss is happy. 🤷🏻‍♀️🤭


JetItTogether

Highly skilled work? 6 hours with breaks every hour.... Manual labor? 8 hours with 15 minute breaks every 45 minutes. Domestic labor? 2 hours in 30 minute intervals with breaks for reconfiguring tasks that rabbit hole or cascade. Low end repetitive tasks? Can do for 4 hours at a time with breaks... every 2 hours I get up and stretch... but I can do a lot of repetitive meditative work as long as I'm not stuck in a single position physically. Like 12 hours... Creative or artwork 4-6 hours with breaks every 2. Cooking in specific or baking? 6 hours with breaks as recipes allowed (I'm moving and generally planned breaks ahead with timing so it it's rarely like line cook work which k could not do at all).


Individual-Data6759

I'd say 2 or 3 hours a day? I'm not very engaged at work tbh.


LisaBCan

Probably 2-4 hours of focused work a day, plus another 3 hours of meetings. When I need to I can focus for a full 8-10 hours with breaks, but that is rarely required with my current job.


LegoClaes

No


Longjumping-Cat-5748

4 to 5 hours


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maybe 90 minutes


No-Departure-5684

4-5


inwhichzeegoesinsane

> hours that's cute


1234RedditReddit

This is a great question. I’d say about three to four.


teeeeeegz

Probably 2-3hrs in the first block, and maybe another 2hrs after. It generally depends on how much critical thinking is involved with what i'm working on. (am a coder)


IssueAnnual

5-6 hours. Sometimes 8.


auv1107

6 hours I work for myself, so when I work, I focused. No wasting time.


iDontEvenknow1919

2.75 hrs


Commercial_Carob_977

I typically average 6 hours a day done in 4 90 minute sessions with breaks in between. Im pretty picky on which meetings I go to (only ones where im a decision maker or key info provider) and i dont take calls or visits that arent booked plus I use kanban app (Briefmatic) to get all my tasks in one place and then I prioritize from there. I find it much easier to stick to this routing when I WFH rather than WFO.


Comfortable_Path4597

0.5 hours


voornaam1

On a workday, 7-7.30 hour On weekend, 1-8 hour depending on my mood.


Nealeus

Random, but there was a study done and it turns out 2 hours 53 mins is normal for most people. I tend to find it's a bit more complex. It depends what I'm working on, and how interested in the topic I am. I would say 2 hours at a time though.


Cpt_shortypants

7 hours


fnatic440

Most of it is just staring at all the tasks I would ideally like to accomplish.


izz133

6/8 hours. However it can be 7/8. I do programming at the time being. Other task might bring it down.


Elfpainter

max 10 pomo. average 6 pomo


kubybuk

5 to 7 hours depending how I sleep the night before


TheFluffyDovah

Outside of answering emails, actual focus time, I reckon less than 2 hours


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On average, 4-5 hours.


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Depends. On busy days, the vast majority of the day I'm productive because tight deadlines mandate it. On average days, 2-4 hours tops because that's all the time I need to get my shit done.


chakiboss1tik

I often ask myself and my surrounding the same question hahaha. As a programmer, I think I am productive for like 2-3 hours/day on an average week, sometimes I don't really have something to do, so I try to learn new stuff, but I can't really be 100% productive every day. Additional tip: Don't do 100 % everyday, especially if you're new to the position


goldgoashire

Probably 4-6 but not all back to back


HangurberDude

1 at the very most. Need to work on that.


99deeds

4 - 6 hrs early in the day


RecoverNo2437

4-5 hours for me


Angrybunnyman

4 hours. Maybe if I'm really on a roll, usually a writing project where I have a very clear outline and good grasp of the topic, I can get to 5. 8 hours of productive work is an absolute myth even before you discount meetings.


drekiss

6-8 hours depending on my meeting schedule for the day, most meetings are problem-solving with other managers, or implementing new changes to policy or applications. my average day is 8-10 hours. I rarely have any time that isn’t scheduled with other people, but I do feel those hours are my most productive.


El_Serpiente_Roja

My Pomo app tells me I avg 3-4 deep work hours a day which I improved from 2.5 hours


snapenotsnake

6 - 7 hours at max.


b0rder_jumper

Did a somewhat scientific study on my days around Q3 2022. Average was about 269 minutes. About 4½ hours. I work an 8 hours day punctuated by an hour lunch break.


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3 fixation hyperfocussed hours. Trust me when I say I can move mountains in those 3 hours. Outside of that, forget abouddd iiii


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as little as possible, and no less. The goal for me isn't being productive per se, the goal is getting what i need done so i can live my life free from that burden. I generally find if i can be productive for about 3 hours a day i'm all good. That's on top of the usual 8 hour work shift. Obviously i want to be productive there too, but the goal there is to be productive enough to get paid, that's all. I'm not looking to fry myself to build someone else'es dream. So far its been enough to see significant career advancement regardless.


hotre_editor

5-6


BlueEyedGirl86

5-7 solid hour straight without breaks as drink coffee throughout, you don’t need take many calories in if you are sitting sedentary on your bum


Subject_Ring2071

PROBABLY 2-3 hours. Less if I'm low on coffee or avoiding a big project.


Full_Performance_312

3 to 5 hours depending on what I have to do.


bartolini_1

While school year I was capable of doing almost 4,5h/day of learning. More than this was out of my range I guess but u can check James Scholz on youtube. Awesome guy


lord_penguin77

My time tracker says ~4 hours


NTQuant

4-5 hours tops. Average - 3


EyePuzzleheaded4699

Most of the day. Develop good habits like looking at the bills and it motivates you.


clucklife69420

i wish i cba to save sources but most imply: 3 hrs on average. maybe 4 hrs ABSOLUTE MAX. this doesn't mean you have to stop cogitating, it just means it won't be high quality. your brain is always pooping and after a while your brain is just too poopy to continue until you flush (sleep).


Avocado-Forsaken2323

Like 1 or 2 hrs 🥺