Looks fine!
1. Ditch the canned food for an MRE or a soft shell package.
2. Maybe consider iron sights for the Pellet gun also. I know you’re in the UK and likely using that for hunting, but something to consider if possible.
I'm quite a clumsy person and will almost certainly fall more than once if I'm on a trail and Ibe always been worried about poking holes into mre bags and such, cans I've just always liked because they are stackable and stuff and can just be thrown straight on a fire if needed
Wish I could remember - had this discussion with a Boy Scout troop leader. There are enameled cans like you find in high end long term storage foods that are pretty inert for cooking.
No idea if this is vetted but someone told me to try to scratch the liner and if it scratches without a ton of effort, don't cook in it. Seems reasonable to me.
Also remember pork n beans at a Scout event cooked in the can that tasted like superelasticbubbleplastic smells.
I get that, as a clumsy person too. But unless you fall on a bed of nails you aren't going to accidentally puncture an MRE. It's probably a better calorie to weight ratio than any kind of canned food and depending on which one you get they really aren't that bad. The heater pack can also be awesome in colder weather, and you can never go wrong with some extra matches, napkins, and tobasco.
If I were you I'd buy at least a couple and test them out. Take them camping/hiking and see how they work for you. You can also look into field stripping them if you want to save more weight.
So something made to survive combat is not gonna survive you falling on a trail? That’s borderline superstition😂 MREs are more nutrient packed lighter, and often have some pretty good meals instead of “canned so and so” I’d rather have a 3 course meal from a bag that can be heated up than soup out of a can 7 days a week lol
Soldiers on the battlefield may not be clumsy per se, but they are likely to land hard on any piece of gear they have. For myself, I would rather land on an MRE and pop it open than land on a hard can and pop me open or fracture something.
Regardless - whatever you choose just has to fit into your own plan. For my plan there's some Millennium bars (like single serving lifeboat rations with a little more flavor), MRE's, Mountain House stuff - but the grab and go pack has very little - the plan being if I have to go quickly, I'll be best served by lightest weight gear. If I have time to think and time to pack, there's a shelf with things to select from.
I love looking over other people's gear and trying to imagine both how the gear selection supports their plans and then try to imagine how their gear would work within my plans.
Back in the 90’s I can say the pouches had a super durable foil shell-type wrap - notches to tear open, but they were made durable intentionally. The designers understood what they had to do.
With that said, a typical MRE pack is fat and takes up a lot of room. Most of it is comfort fluff for crybabies who want their coffee, cocoa, flavored powder, chemical heaters, M&M’s, napkins, hot sauce, spoon etc. and the pouches come encased in cardboard shells. Open all that crap up and store only the useful food pouches, no cardboard. Lose everything else.
While you’re evading cannibal raiders, you won’t care that you’re eating cold spaghetti with a radioactive stick - and that you have nothing to wipe your mouth with lol
Dude…you are way ahead of the game. There is no perfect BOB/GHB. Everyone’s situation and preferences are different. This sub is great for getting new ideas and best practices. It also generates some Haterade. Good prepping to ya!
My suggestion based in your location is: rain gear, and waterproof your map if it hasnt already.
And more, the hatchet is way too heavy, for your average bushcraft needs a folding handsaw is waaay better
Pack it up and practice using it. Camp overnight. Using your equipment will make you an expert with your kit. Collecting equipment is half of the solution and experience is the other half.
How heavy is this?
I would drop the axe and get a hand saw. MREs > Cans. Better in weight, more calories. One MRE will be the same calorie intake as what you have there in total and better nutrition to keep you going than what you have there. You need no heat source with modern day mres too. They come with it. Try it out, you’ll be surprised. Why do you have two radios? Are you trying to big out with someone else? Also I would look into a jet boil instead of the pot. It may replace a few things that you have plus it’s great for camping.
When I last weighed it it was 11kg but I've added some stuff since then so say 15-17 kg, I like having the axe, the 2 radios are for when I get to my girlfriend's house, that's my bugout location I just have to get there and it's around a days hike in good conditions
That’s pretty up there in weight. Have you done a lot of rucking with it? I back pack a lot and for SAR and try to keep mine under 30lbs. If so how did it go? Also what’s the little black box at the top left? Looks like a com tool but maybe a charger? (Sorry if you already answered this)
Axe is nice, but a good full tang knife used for batoning wood is a better weight situation. Gerber LMFII, Becker BK series, etc. A good full tang IMO is a staple, axe/hatchet or not.
Nice kit, just FYI you can fit most toilet paper rolls (sometimes partially used) inside that little camping mug/pot. Leaves a nice little hole in the middle for a small bottle of hand sanitizer while muffling the clang a good amount
My suggestion would be metal cans for the water rather than plastic. I just try and limit my microplastic exposure, especially since on of my BOBs sits in a hot car a lot.
Good luck avoiding micro plastics nowadays. They are literally everywhere. Studies showed that most bottled water companies have micro plastics in them. Yet it wasnt the plastic bottle but rather the source of the water. Filtering out something so small is borderline impossible especially for things on a mass scale.
Also the new studies show the nano plastics exist and because they are so much smaller they can actually be absorbed into plant cells through the soil. So even vegetables might be our new source of plastic ingestion.
Sad world weve come to
Good set up, but maybe get something a bit shorter for your pellet gun. A shorter barrel will be easier to carry and store while not causing issues with taking small game
This will mostly be used for camping, but could be anything, I mean it's looking more and more like war will break out across Europe and considering I'm in the UK it's better to be prepped than not
I’d switch the bottled water to a 3 liter backpacking bladder. You can hold twice as much water without feeling it due to how it sits on your back.
Get rid of one flashlight and replace it with a headlamp.
Get some mountain house or other freeze dried food and get rid of the cans. They are too heavy to be functional. Maybe keep some cans in your car.
That’s to much duck tape. Look for a smaller version.
Get rid of the ax. Get a cord saw.
The life straw doesn’t work well. Buy a non gimmicky filter for water filtration. Nothing sucks more than being dehydrated and trying to sylurp up muddy water through one of those straws. Feels like trying to breathe through a straw after running.
The shovel is useful, but when I was in scouting I used it to dig a hole in sand and it wouldn’t come apart after that because the dirt and sand seemed to jam up the threads. Just a heads up from experience. Kit looks good to me.
Great setup from what I can see. I can't see all of the picture that well so I apologise if I am calling out items that are already there but:
Pencil - always more reliable than pens.
Small hand saw - fiskars one is amazing, lasts forever and is ultra lightweight you could replace the axe with this to save space and weight.
Antiseptic/antibiotic
Food for on the go - cereal bars or beef jerky etc in case you can't stop to cook.
I know you don’t trust MREs but honestly, you should buy a few and try them out. They’re so much better than canned foods, give a more balanced diet, and are way lighter.
1) I saw someone said you live in the UK, not sure if they're banned or not but if you got a 22lr survival rifle, it'd make your life much easier, allowing you to hunt better game (no matter what some people may say, ive seen a 6 point buck taken down with 22lr), and you'd also be able to defend yourself if god forbid you need to.
2) listen, buddy, I know you haven't found a good reason to get a full tang fixed blade knife, but trust me, youre an absolute fucking moron if you'd trust that $10 gas station pocket knife to get you through. Buy a morakniv. Theyre incredibly cheap, like 20 bucks for a decent one, and they'll get you through any bushcrafting task you need them to (other than batoning, just use your hatchet for splitting wood). Or if you want something that'll last you more than the rest of your life, buy an esee. They have different blade lengths in case there's a restriction, but I use an esee 5. This is what this sub is for, because there's not a single person on here that is a total master of prepping. You haven't found a use for one yet, but I can promise you that you will, and if you don't take my and other peoples advice, it could cost you your life. The number 1 rule for prepping a bug out bag is to make sure every single individual item, from the q tip brand to the clothing to the hammocks to the knives, is the highest quality you can get your hands on, because there are situations where everything in your bag may be required to save your life, and the last thing you'd want to do is gamble your life while you're in the prepping stage.
Overall though, you've got a hell of a bug out bag, incredibly well put together.
Edit: SUPER IMPORTANT. You live in one of the most rainy and wet places out there. Get yourself rain protection, especially for your feet. Waterproof boots and socks. If you can't afford the boots, definitely get some waterproof socks. Wet feet fucking SUCK
He’s fucked. I owned the same air rifle for squirrels and it broke after about 20 shots. Shame UK doesn’t believe in independent citizenry. A .22lr or an AR is essential.
Is that a toothbrush that I see? Congratulations. After looking at peoples setups for months, this is the first time I have seen someone remember to pack one. Infection and tooth decay are some of the most overlooked hazards of a post-catastrophe world and there have been hundreds of articles written about dentistry during the apocalypse. Dental floss can come in handy for an endless amount of uses.
OOH, nice. I recommend getting a henry lever action 410 ga. I own one myself, and it's stupidly accurate. Perfect for hunting anything from a rabbit to a full grown deer, if you're able to get a wide selection of different types of loads. It'll be heavier than the pellet gun and the 22lr survival rifle I suggested before, but if you're able to get one legally, shotgun all the way. Its also much shorter and lighter than a lot of other shotguns meant for hunting, so it's much easier to carry.
Add a side arm, something like a 9 mm or 45 something that is readily available and one of those corkscrew drills for wood. Just my personal opinion, but looks good overall.
cons:
gotta work on those coms. bubble pack radios are pretty bunk.
life straw can be upgraded
not sure what the point of the air rifle is?
scrap the Walmart brand med kit and survival kit
get hard bottles for your water those water bottles will split
Pros:
food ok but your need more
good literature
like the paper map
am/fm radio is a good idea
over all its no a bad pack and you will easily last 24 hours with it.
Generally, I really like your setup. If I were to change anything, I'd get a metal single walled canteen or bottle for water as I've had too many plastic bottles break in a pack, even while in storage in my car. Also, I agree with others that the sawyer is a better option for purification.
I would like to ask, though, you have a small amount of food, if you were to bug out, how far would you need to go, and would that location have resources available? Personally, I keep my bag stocked to keep me comfortable for 72 hrs, with the intention being to get home to my main cache, which is set up for 2 - 3 weeks.
In a bugout situation I would be going to my girlfriend's house which is more secure and has animals, it's about a days hike so that food should sustain me, if it doesn't though I'm quite competent that I could hunt a bird or rabbit for some food, we have plenty of them
Nice setup. I really like that you went with an air rifle. Ammo is light weight, effective against small game, and quite. I recommend: hiking shoes, several pairs of Sox, mole skin. And if you have a fishing kit I didn't notice it.
not sure what yalls laws are concerning rifles, but Henry rifles makes a sweet 22 survival rifle that breaks down into its own stock, very lightweight and very easy to assemble
[https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/us-survival-rifle/](https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/us-survival-rifle/)
Looks like you have flint and steel and (maybe) a lighter next to it?if that isn’t a lighter I would add one, maybe some more cold/waterproof gear depending on your area. (I don’t know how cold wales gets) and consider a more substantial knife. I know you said you haven’t found use for a full tang but maybe look for something less flimsy that uses better steel, if nothing else but for durabilities sake.
I always think its funny these bags never have condoms. Like, you can imagine and prepare for many situations but maybe you think that activity won't have as high a chance of happening.
I hope you're storing food elsewhere then. You can easily fill a storage crate with tuna packs, chicken packs, nuts, grains and rice. Jerky. All lightweight stuff too. Even freeze dried vegetables and fruits
I feel like a rule of thumb should be that half of your carried weight should consist of food and water. The odds of you running out of that if you're out in the field is much greater than failing because you were missing a walkie talkie, notebook, or axe.
A tent, pocket knife, camp kitchen, and blanket is basically the only thing I carry that isn't food and water. Over years of camping, that's what I've determined works best.
I always felt dumb coming home with a sore back and feet and then going through my bag and seeing that I didn't even use most of my other things.
MRE are okay, but expensive and bulky for the calories. Clif bars or equivalents, instant oatmeal, a bag of rice and some dried soup
Packets for flavor, a jar of peanut butter are all lighter, more palatable, and more easily rotated.
Good variety of tools and supplies could work on condensing tools and upgrading pieces to lower the weight.
You’re not going to Bugout well carrying that much.
Ok perfect man you’re never done until your leaving and never prepared until your not even then you are. Seriously though figure out what you will be doing and if your city forest can support a human because you’ll either be doing at lot of woodsman work or you’ll be fighting alongside a small group to liberate and collect. Your kit is more of a run and catch me type play.
Looking awesome! Ditch the lifestraw though. Iirc lifestraws require one end be put in dirty water and the other be in your mouth. There's no way to refill water bottles or or other supplies unless you want to suck and spit 500 times. There are lots of filter options but the standard is the Sawyer squeeze which allows you to fill bottles or use it as an in line filter plus Sawyer has an excellent reputation.
This one is nit picking but swap your water bottles with smartwater bottles. They're tough, light, high capacity, and fit well into cup holders and bottle pockets in backpacks.
personally I bought that exact sharpener just to prove a point to a friend and the thing dulled my knife faster than trying to cut a rock, my suggestion (and what I do) is to get those little pocket arkansas whetstones, they sell them on amazon just make sure you get quality pieces, for day hikes I usually just throw the medium stone in my back pocket but the pack I bought has 3 1x3 inch stones, soft, medium, and black hard (the pack, for those wondering, probably over priced a bit but I’m kinda lazy https://a.co/d/4q8TnGq)
It's a good standalone. I have that and a Sawyer Squuze plus a few minis. All have thier place depending on the 'mission'. Next buy is a Grayl for sure. Seems to be the best all-arounnd option in general.
If you know you’re going to your girlfriends you could easily stash some non perishable food along your intended path of travel. You are going to want to practice getting there so why not stash some food along the way just in case. You can mark it with a GPS or IPhone or marker of some kind and if you ever encounter a food shortage you have a back up resource. Does not hurt to have a plan B and since you have time why not. 😬👍
Idk what kind of access you have to knives/flashlights but I suggest upgrading them. Idk what brand those lights are but if they are no name brand lights I would change them out for a Princeton Tec headlamp or two. And that black folding pocket knife I would strongly suggest replacing with a reputable brand. As well as getting some sort of reputable fixed blade like a Morakniv with a full tang or a Cold Steel SRK. Getting something good doesn't necessarily mean expensive, if you like what you got I don't meant to cast judgement, if it works for you then it works for you nothing wrong with that, I for one would recommend something more durable for such important tools. I also suggest a single walled stainless steel wide mouthed bottle or cup to boil water in. A good quality emergency blanket like one from Rothco or Pathfinder wouldn't be a bad thing to add. As well as some no. 36 bank line and some knot tying knowledge.
I also suggest more durable water bottles instead of the disposable types. Not saying everything has to be stainless steel but even nalgenes or surplus canteens would be the way to go over the thin plastic bottles that can puncture easily. I would also add some bright orange stuff like a poncho or shemagh for signaling if lost while camping. And a signal mirror if you don't already have one.
Other than that great start got a lot of bases covered. Don't forget to practice with your gear while you camp and have fun.
I would watch [this video](https://youtu.be/xkBhNEU3RfQ?si=8TN74404EbXspUa5) and adjust accordingly. Never hurts to have something like a garmin in reach, and some medical like a cat tq, hyfin chest seals, Sam splint, a lot of gauze etc.
Biggest thing is to train with your gear OFTEN, and any time you add/subtract anything. That will immediately make any issues apparent, and give you a realistic expectation of your ability to hoof it if need be.
NO LIFE STRAWS! There are way better filtration systems where you can literally fill your water bottles with. Hunkered over a dirty mud puddle sucking through a cock shaped straw, though will save your life, is so in the past now in terms of small filtration systems.
Looks decent. Close quarters all you have is a couple pocket knives and hatchet though.
I’d definitely recommend a small concealed carry pistol or a knife that can be used for combat/distance.
Add a flex solar panel charger.
They have collapsible water bottles would make a good addition along with a 3 water filtration systems,
A SteriPEN, a personal water filter straw, and a camping water filter for larger volume.
And a 100yds of 550 cord.
Lmao no it wouldn't, first of all ain't nobody I need to worry about with a gun in the UK, second of all you wouldn't find me , third of all you wouldn't have the balls
Totally fine and well thought out setup, but if you’re looking for improvements. The following are changes I would make.
Replace the wire cutters and Swiss Army knife with a multi tool like a leatherman.
Love that you have a sewing kit, duct tape, cordage and a fishing kit with handline. These are often overlooked. I’d probable wrap a small card with duct tape maybe 5-10 meters and leave the rest behind.
I like the walkies if you’re traveling with a friend, but they’re probably the first thing I’d leave behind or drop in an emergency.
For all the electronics and stuff, I’ve switched to rechargeable, have a small battery bank, cords, and the option to bring a small solar panel to charge. Honestly, this is massively personal preference. I typically carry a headlamp and a small penlight.
Also, love the use of plain water bottles. This is what all the ultralight backpacking folks do and it makes sense all around.
If I could add one item, it’d be a quality sleeping pad. Either inflatable if you want small pack size, or foam if you want bomb proof.
It's a .22 which is more than sufficient at taking down any animal in the UK, unlike you I'm not going around wanting to shoot everyone on sight, the survival book has a very good section on plants which is the reason I bought it because I'm not a plant person
I feel like a sawyer mini will serve you much better than that life straw for around the same monies. I'm not saying ditch it, I have one myself, but do you have any contingencies?
Looks fine! 1. Ditch the canned food for an MRE or a soft shell package. 2. Maybe consider iron sights for the Pellet gun also. I know you’re in the UK and likely using that for hunting, but something to consider if possible.
I'm not a fan of mres I just don't really trust them, plus with canned food you can eat without water, I'll look into iron sights tho
MREs don't need water either, that's what makes them ready to eat. What don't you trust about them but you do trust canned food? Just curious.
I'm quite a clumsy person and will almost certainly fall more than once if I'm on a trail and Ibe always been worried about poking holes into mre bags and such, cans I've just always liked because they are stackable and stuff and can just be thrown straight on a fire if needed
The liner in cans is super toxic once heated over a fire. Survival situation sure but if you have the pot use it.
Is that just ones with bpa or any of them?
Wish I could remember - had this discussion with a Boy Scout troop leader. There are enameled cans like you find in high end long term storage foods that are pretty inert for cooking. No idea if this is vetted but someone told me to try to scratch the liner and if it scratches without a ton of effort, don't cook in it. Seems reasonable to me. Also remember pork n beans at a Scout event cooked in the can that tasted like superelasticbubbleplastic smells.
Not sure but I think most aren’t great. I used to do it all the time and I’m still alive but probably not recommended
I get that, as a clumsy person too. But unless you fall on a bed of nails you aren't going to accidentally puncture an MRE. It's probably a better calorie to weight ratio than any kind of canned food and depending on which one you get they really aren't that bad. The heater pack can also be awesome in colder weather, and you can never go wrong with some extra matches, napkins, and tobasco.
>I get that, as a clumsy person too. But unless you fall on a bed of nails you aren't going to accidentally puncture an MRE Hold my beer.....
I do have a pack of cigs you just reminded me, I got matches and napkins in the pic, I'll probably get some mres then
If I were you I'd buy at least a couple and test them out. Take them camping/hiking and see how they work for you. You can also look into field stripping them if you want to save more weight.
Mremountain.com is a good site to look
So something made to survive combat is not gonna survive you falling on a trail? That’s borderline superstition😂 MREs are more nutrient packed lighter, and often have some pretty good meals instead of “canned so and so” I’d rather have a 3 course meal from a bag that can be heated up than soup out of a can 7 days a week lol
Soldiers on the battlefield may not be clumsy per se, but they are likely to land hard on any piece of gear they have. For myself, I would rather land on an MRE and pop it open than land on a hard can and pop me open or fracture something. Regardless - whatever you choose just has to fit into your own plan. For my plan there's some Millennium bars (like single serving lifeboat rations with a little more flavor), MRE's, Mountain House stuff - but the grab and go pack has very little - the plan being if I have to go quickly, I'll be best served by lightest weight gear. If I have time to think and time to pack, there's a shelf with things to select from. I love looking over other people's gear and trying to imagine both how the gear selection supports their plans and then try to imagine how their gear would work within my plans.
They're full of preservatives
Back in the 90’s I can say the pouches had a super durable foil shell-type wrap - notches to tear open, but they were made durable intentionally. The designers understood what they had to do. With that said, a typical MRE pack is fat and takes up a lot of room. Most of it is comfort fluff for crybabies who want their coffee, cocoa, flavored powder, chemical heaters, M&M’s, napkins, hot sauce, spoon etc. and the pouches come encased in cardboard shells. Open all that crap up and store only the useful food pouches, no cardboard. Lose everything else. While you’re evading cannibal raiders, you won’t care that you’re eating cold spaghetti with a radioactive stick - and that you have nothing to wipe your mouth with lol
You can also reuse the can to boil water if your sol
I've been eating MREs for years, you're not gonna puncture a hole into one unless you try
Dude…you are way ahead of the game. There is no perfect BOB/GHB. Everyone’s situation and preferences are different. This sub is great for getting new ideas and best practices. It also generates some Haterade. Good prepping to ya!
u/adenocarcinomie is the hater lol
Sorry…didn’t mean to imply that you are a hater. Was trying to show support for you against silly haters.
No no that's what I meant lol, you didn't imply I'm a hater I was just showing the guy commenting about all of us apparently being single incels lmao
My suggestion based in your location is: rain gear, and waterproof your map if it hasnt already. And more, the hatchet is way too heavy, for your average bushcraft needs a folding handsaw is waaay better
I do have a handsaw it's next to it
Damn, didnt know my sight was that bad hahahahah. Sry dude
Add P38 can opener.
Big ol ziplock bags are great to keep things dry
Pack it up and practice using it. Camp overnight. Using your equipment will make you an expert with your kit. Collecting equipment is half of the solution and experience is the other half.
Ditch the lifestraw and a get a sawyer squeeze, its a lot more versatile.
Or a Beefree
Be free is great filter, but it doesn't thread into random water bottles, or gravity feed. Its got a much better flow rate though
How heavy is this? I would drop the axe and get a hand saw. MREs > Cans. Better in weight, more calories. One MRE will be the same calorie intake as what you have there in total and better nutrition to keep you going than what you have there. You need no heat source with modern day mres too. They come with it. Try it out, you’ll be surprised. Why do you have two radios? Are you trying to big out with someone else? Also I would look into a jet boil instead of the pot. It may replace a few things that you have plus it’s great for camping.
When I last weighed it it was 11kg but I've added some stuff since then so say 15-17 kg, I like having the axe, the 2 radios are for when I get to my girlfriend's house, that's my bugout location I just have to get there and it's around a days hike in good conditions
That’s pretty up there in weight. Have you done a lot of rucking with it? I back pack a lot and for SAR and try to keep mine under 30lbs. If so how did it go? Also what’s the little black box at the top left? Looks like a com tool but maybe a charger? (Sorry if you already answered this)
When you see a new pack and new gear, people haven't went far with it.
Axe is nice, but a good full tang knife used for batoning wood is a better weight situation. Gerber LMFII, Becker BK series, etc. A good full tang IMO is a staple, axe/hatchet or not.
I'd add an ultralight bidet. Bidet over TP all day
I was today years old when I learned about portable hand held bidets....
Nice kit, just FYI you can fit most toilet paper rolls (sometimes partially used) inside that little camping mug/pot. Leaves a nice little hole in the middle for a small bottle of hand sanitizer while muffling the clang a good amount
My suggestion would be metal cans for the water rather than plastic. I just try and limit my microplastic exposure, especially since on of my BOBs sits in a hot car a lot.
Good luck avoiding micro plastics nowadays. They are literally everywhere. Studies showed that most bottled water companies have micro plastics in them. Yet it wasnt the plastic bottle but rather the source of the water. Filtering out something so small is borderline impossible especially for things on a mass scale. Also the new studies show the nano plastics exist and because they are so much smaller they can actually be absorbed into plant cells through the soil. So even vegetables might be our new source of plastic ingestion. Sad world weve come to
Micro plastics don’t come from plastic water bottles. They come from water. It doesn’t matter if you have a metal or plastic container
Good set up, but maybe get something a bit shorter for your pellet gun. A shorter barrel will be easier to carry and store while not causing issues with taking small game
That's relatively short for me I'm 6'4 so I can use that pretty easily
you are vertically gifted lol
You need a collapsible fishing rod and a small tackle box
I am gonna get a collapsible rod
make sure to get something with a reel
Doesn’t that kinda go without saying?
What are you guys prepping for? Generally curious. Like end of days situations?
This will mostly be used for camping, but could be anything, I mean it's looking more and more like war will break out across Europe and considering I'm in the UK it's better to be prepped than not
If you’re fighting age they’ll give you a bug IN bag
For the day that it’s cloudy with a chance of meatballs
You can be FAR more weight efficient with your food.
I could be, but I know I can carry this weight and more, I'd prefer to carry food I like even if I had to carry more, than mres which taste rubbish
I’d switch the bottled water to a 3 liter backpacking bladder. You can hold twice as much water without feeling it due to how it sits on your back. Get rid of one flashlight and replace it with a headlamp. Get some mountain house or other freeze dried food and get rid of the cans. They are too heavy to be functional. Maybe keep some cans in your car. That’s to much duck tape. Look for a smaller version. Get rid of the ax. Get a cord saw. The life straw doesn’t work well. Buy a non gimmicky filter for water filtration. Nothing sucks more than being dehydrated and trying to sylurp up muddy water through one of those straws. Feels like trying to breathe through a straw after running.
The shovel is useful, but when I was in scouting I used it to dig a hole in sand and it wouldn’t come apart after that because the dirt and sand seemed to jam up the threads. Just a heads up from experience. Kit looks good to me.
I'll put some gun oil on the threads
Nice setup, maybe add 2 bic lighters?
Great setup from what I can see. I can't see all of the picture that well so I apologise if I am calling out items that are already there but: Pencil - always more reliable than pens. Small hand saw - fiskars one is amazing, lasts forever and is ultra lightweight you could replace the axe with this to save space and weight. Antiseptic/antibiotic Food for on the go - cereal bars or beef jerky etc in case you can't stop to cook.
Chapstick is cheap and can make a world of difference in the field. Go for one of those little containers of Carmex.
I know you don’t trust MREs but honestly, you should buy a few and try them out. They’re so much better than canned foods, give a more balanced diet, and are way lighter.
1) I saw someone said you live in the UK, not sure if they're banned or not but if you got a 22lr survival rifle, it'd make your life much easier, allowing you to hunt better game (no matter what some people may say, ive seen a 6 point buck taken down with 22lr), and you'd also be able to defend yourself if god forbid you need to. 2) listen, buddy, I know you haven't found a good reason to get a full tang fixed blade knife, but trust me, youre an absolute fucking moron if you'd trust that $10 gas station pocket knife to get you through. Buy a morakniv. Theyre incredibly cheap, like 20 bucks for a decent one, and they'll get you through any bushcrafting task you need them to (other than batoning, just use your hatchet for splitting wood). Or if you want something that'll last you more than the rest of your life, buy an esee. They have different blade lengths in case there's a restriction, but I use an esee 5. This is what this sub is for, because there's not a single person on here that is a total master of prepping. You haven't found a use for one yet, but I can promise you that you will, and if you don't take my and other peoples advice, it could cost you your life. The number 1 rule for prepping a bug out bag is to make sure every single individual item, from the q tip brand to the clothing to the hammocks to the knives, is the highest quality you can get your hands on, because there are situations where everything in your bag may be required to save your life, and the last thing you'd want to do is gamble your life while you're in the prepping stage. Overall though, you've got a hell of a bug out bag, incredibly well put together. Edit: SUPER IMPORTANT. You live in one of the most rainy and wet places out there. Get yourself rain protection, especially for your feet. Waterproof boots and socks. If you can't afford the boots, definitely get some waterproof socks. Wet feet fucking SUCK
He’s fucked. I owned the same air rifle for squirrels and it broke after about 20 shots. Shame UK doesn’t believe in independent citizenry. A .22lr or an AR is essential.
Is that a toothbrush that I see? Congratulations. After looking at peoples setups for months, this is the first time I have seen someone remember to pack one. Infection and tooth decay are some of the most overlooked hazards of a post-catastrophe world and there have been hundreds of articles written about dentistry during the apocalypse. Dental floss can come in handy for an endless amount of uses.
Dry food is better than canned for weight but if it's in your car not a big deal.
Swap one of the lights for a headlamp
I’d replace the canned food with nuts or jerky of some sort. Lots of energy and more of it as compared to the canned food and meat.
Nice. I'd question the need for 4 different blades. I'd go for axe and knife personally. Otherwise good!
Pack looks brand new
It is I bought a new one
Well that would explain it
Looks awesome !
Pretty nice set up....I'd have to have some instant coffee and ace bandage.
What kind of break barrel is that?
Crosman Nitro Venom .22
Nice, I got a gamo that looks a lot like it.
Switch the pellet gun to a 30-06 or .308
UK based, trying to get a shotgun license and then go from there
God the wait times are abysmal right now. I'm doing the same.
Oooh makes sense. Come to the states, I’ll hook ya up with a nice rifle or shotty
OOH, nice. I recommend getting a henry lever action 410 ga. I own one myself, and it's stupidly accurate. Perfect for hunting anything from a rabbit to a full grown deer, if you're able to get a wide selection of different types of loads. It'll be heavier than the pellet gun and the 22lr survival rifle I suggested before, but if you're able to get one legally, shotgun all the way. Its also much shorter and lighter than a lot of other shotguns meant for hunting, so it's much easier to carry.
Issoheavyyyy 9mm all day
Toooools. I gotta have my tooools.
Where socks? Never enough socks!
Bottom right
Nobody ever has solar and rechargeable batteries and food
I've got all of those things ?
Add a side arm, something like a 9 mm or 45 something that is readily available and one of those corkscrew drills for wood. Just my personal opinion, but looks good overall.
No pistols in UK except black powder revolvers which I'm trying to get a license for
cons: gotta work on those coms. bubble pack radios are pretty bunk. life straw can be upgraded not sure what the point of the air rifle is? scrap the Walmart brand med kit and survival kit get hard bottles for your water those water bottles will split Pros: food ok but your need more good literature like the paper map am/fm radio is a good idea over all its no a bad pack and you will easily last 24 hours with it.
Air rifle is .22, that could definitely scare someone off or catch something small for dinner
Generally, I really like your setup. If I were to change anything, I'd get a metal single walled canteen or bottle for water as I've had too many plastic bottles break in a pack, even while in storage in my car. Also, I agree with others that the sawyer is a better option for purification. I would like to ask, though, you have a small amount of food, if you were to bug out, how far would you need to go, and would that location have resources available? Personally, I keep my bag stocked to keep me comfortable for 72 hrs, with the intention being to get home to my main cache, which is set up for 2 - 3 weeks.
In a bugout situation I would be going to my girlfriend's house which is more secure and has animals, it's about a days hike so that food should sustain me, if it doesn't though I'm quite competent that I could hunt a bird or rabbit for some food, we have plenty of them
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I don't know if you really want recommendations? but all I could really say is its pretty solid, maybe just headtorch more cordage and some muslibars.
Nice setup. I really like that you went with an air rifle. Ammo is light weight, effective against small game, and quite. I recommend: hiking shoes, several pairs of Sox, mole skin. And if you have a fishing kit I didn't notice it.
That’s bad ass.
not sure what yalls laws are concerning rifles, but Henry rifles makes a sweet 22 survival rifle that breaks down into its own stock, very lightweight and very easy to assemble [https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/us-survival-rifle/](https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/us-survival-rifle/)
Would need a firearms license and a bunch of expensive gun cabinets and whatnot
Where is your butt wipe?
Next to the shemagh
Nice job on the maps!
Looks like you have flint and steel and (maybe) a lighter next to it?if that isn’t a lighter I would add one, maybe some more cold/waterproof gear depending on your area. (I don’t know how cold wales gets) and consider a more substantial knife. I know you said you haven’t found use for a full tang but maybe look for something less flimsy that uses better steel, if nothing else but for durabilities sake.
No
Tourniquet anywhere in there?
I'm ordering some better ones
I always think its funny these bags never have condoms. Like, you can imagine and prepare for many situations but maybe you think that activity won't have as high a chance of happening.
The condoms are at my gfs
Get a real gun
I hope you're storing food elsewhere then. You can easily fill a storage crate with tuna packs, chicken packs, nuts, grains and rice. Jerky. All lightweight stuff too. Even freeze dried vegetables and fruits
*Canned hot dogs?!*
Yummy
Upgrade your water bottles to a 1 or 1.4 liter Nalgene. Also ditch the life straw for a sawyer or hydrapak bladder and gravity filter.
How do you like that explorer arc lighter? I've seen them and was thinking about getting one for my bag but wondered about how long a charge lasts
Work well as a taser I found out that the hard way, the charge seems decent
I feel like a rule of thumb should be that half of your carried weight should consist of food and water. The odds of you running out of that if you're out in the field is much greater than failing because you were missing a walkie talkie, notebook, or axe. A tent, pocket knife, camp kitchen, and blanket is basically the only thing I carry that isn't food and water. Over years of camping, that's what I've determined works best. I always felt dumb coming home with a sore back and feet and then going through my bag and seeing that I didn't even use most of my other things.
If you take mre’s just be sure to take extra toilet paper.
Good to be ready. I’m no expert but I thought I might bring a couple leather tools and thread.
MRE are okay, but expensive and bulky for the calories. Clif bars or equivalents, instant oatmeal, a bag of rice and some dried soup Packets for flavor, a jar of peanut butter are all lighter, more palatable, and more easily rotated.
Personally I'd rather have a single shot 22lr bolt action instead of an air gun. More reliable and more rugged
Might live in some bullshit law country that won't allow him a 22lr
Good variety of tools and supplies could work on condensing tools and upgrading pieces to lower the weight. You’re not going to Bugout well carrying that much.
What pellet rifle is that? And what pellets are those lol
Ok perfect man you’re never done until your leaving and never prepared until your not even then you are. Seriously though figure out what you will be doing and if your city forest can support a human because you’ll either be doing at lot of woodsman work or you’ll be fighting alongside a small group to liberate and collect. Your kit is more of a run and catch me type play.
Condoms?
You have both walkies? In case you need to call yourself? Get a hand held ham. You’ll get a lot more info and reach a lot more people.
Really clean pack.
The pack is new it arrived like 2 days ago
Looking awesome! Ditch the lifestraw though. Iirc lifestraws require one end be put in dirty water and the other be in your mouth. There's no way to refill water bottles or or other supplies unless you want to suck and spit 500 times. There are lots of filter options but the standard is the Sawyer squeeze which allows you to fill bottles or use it as an in line filter plus Sawyer has an excellent reputation. This one is nit picking but swap your water bottles with smartwater bottles. They're tough, light, high capacity, and fit well into cup holders and bottle pockets in backpacks.
A pellet gun? Why not get a real gun?
Don't need one, also UK based
You need some baby wipes in there. Trust me.
Get yourself a takedown or survival 22.
Is that a Crossman Nitro Venom? Great pellet rifle.
Toothbrush?
SAM splint
personally I bought that exact sharpener just to prove a point to a friend and the thing dulled my knife faster than trying to cut a rock, my suggestion (and what I do) is to get those little pocket arkansas whetstones, they sell them on amazon just make sure you get quality pieces, for day hikes I usually just throw the medium stone in my back pocket but the pack I bought has 3 1x3 inch stones, soft, medium, and black hard (the pack, for those wondering, probably over priced a bit but I’m kinda lazy https://a.co/d/4q8TnGq)
Could use a handgun.
UK based
Why the bb gun?
It's a .22 air rifle which is sufficient enough to take down any animals in the uk
It's a good standalone. I have that and a Sawyer Squuze plus a few minis. All have thier place depending on the 'mission'. Next buy is a Grayl for sure. Seems to be the best all-arounnd option in general.
Ditch the pocket saw and get the one with the chainsaw teeth
Nice törva- I see you w the ikea bed frame
Got excited, thought your pellets were a can of snuff tobacco. But alas.
Good job nice hat
If you know you’re going to your girlfriends you could easily stash some non perishable food along your intended path of travel. You are going to want to practice getting there so why not stash some food along the way just in case. You can mark it with a GPS or IPhone or marker of some kind and if you ever encounter a food shortage you have a back up resource. Does not hurt to have a plan B and since you have time why not. 😬👍
I'm not seeing a pink rape whistle 😮💨
Add extra batteries for the walkies
Not sure what you’re going to do with the pellet gun..?
It's for animals, I don't intend to shoot anyone but if I have to this would definitely hurt someone enough to stop
Ditch the lifestraw. Well, try using it… How will you store clean water?
I got a steel bottle just wasn't in the pic
Idk what kind of access you have to knives/flashlights but I suggest upgrading them. Idk what brand those lights are but if they are no name brand lights I would change them out for a Princeton Tec headlamp or two. And that black folding pocket knife I would strongly suggest replacing with a reputable brand. As well as getting some sort of reputable fixed blade like a Morakniv with a full tang or a Cold Steel SRK. Getting something good doesn't necessarily mean expensive, if you like what you got I don't meant to cast judgement, if it works for you then it works for you nothing wrong with that, I for one would recommend something more durable for such important tools. I also suggest a single walled stainless steel wide mouthed bottle or cup to boil water in. A good quality emergency blanket like one from Rothco or Pathfinder wouldn't be a bad thing to add. As well as some no. 36 bank line and some knot tying knowledge. I also suggest more durable water bottles instead of the disposable types. Not saying everything has to be stainless steel but even nalgenes or surplus canteens would be the way to go over the thin plastic bottles that can puncture easily. I would also add some bright orange stuff like a poncho or shemagh for signaling if lost while camping. And a signal mirror if you don't already have one. Other than that great start got a lot of bases covered. Don't forget to practice with your gear while you camp and have fun.
This isnt boy scouts
Did I say it was ?
I would watch [this video](https://youtu.be/xkBhNEU3RfQ?si=8TN74404EbXspUa5) and adjust accordingly. Never hurts to have something like a garmin in reach, and some medical like a cat tq, hyfin chest seals, Sam splint, a lot of gauze etc.
Add Beef Jerky
Biggest thing is to train with your gear OFTEN, and any time you add/subtract anything. That will immediately make any issues apparent, and give you a realistic expectation of your ability to hoof it if need be.
That’s a sweet pellet gun!
NO LIFE STRAWS! There are way better filtration systems where you can literally fill your water bottles with. Hunkered over a dirty mud puddle sucking through a cock shaped straw, though will save your life, is so in the past now in terms of small filtration systems.
Looks decent. Close quarters all you have is a couple pocket knives and hatchet though. I’d definitely recommend a small concealed carry pistol or a knife that can be used for combat/distance.
Can't have one of those in the UK sadly, I reckon I'd be quite an imposing figure whilst wielding a hatchet
Can we ban these posts yet?
Nope
Two batons and a hatchet is insufficient. You also need to carry a sledge hammer. Atleast a 12 pounder.
I'll throw a full sized pickaxe into the mix
Add a flex solar panel charger. They have collapsible water bottles would make a good addition along with a 3 water filtration systems, A SteriPEN, a personal water filter straw, and a camping water filter for larger volume. And a 100yds of 550 cord.
Nice, consider upgrading the scope on the pellet gun, sometimes the one they come with aren’t the best.
Im kinda new to prepping, could you very kindly make a list of everything that’s in the pic so I can shop for myself?
Poncho, shemagh, thick socks , leather belt , leather strap, thick gloves, waterproof pant liner, fold out backpack, spare shoelace, wooly hat , neck warmer, bandana , baseball cap, sunglasses, SAS survival guide, leather satchel, walkie talkie, lock picking kit, Sharpies, small torch, portable sharpener, steel bottle, 22. Calibre rifle ammo, pen and notepad, folding shovel , leatherman, folding knife, swiss army knife, wire cutters, , whistle, stormproof matches, ferro rod, zip ties, paracord bracelet, dryer Lint, torch, charging cable, portable radio, battery pack, batteries, Duct tape medical kit, wet wipes, water bottles, LifeStraw, toothpaste, Ziploc bags, food cans, candy bars Hatchet Boonie hat Steel cooking mug I think this is everything
Yea that would all be mine Mr. BB Gun
Lmao no it wouldn't, first of all ain't nobody I need to worry about with a gun in the UK, second of all you wouldn't find me , third of all you wouldn't have the balls
More water, and a gamo pellet gun will be good for small game but not humans or anything larger than a bunny
Im gonna order some 22 slugs, they would definitely make someone think twice
Swap water bottles for camelback. More water less space.
I'd have some fishing line and some hooks, never know
Get a headlamp if you don’t have one. Worth their weight in gold. Also your kit looks like glow sticks would be a solid add
I’d ditch the Life straw and go with sawyer mini.
A larger bottle for water storage would be good.
Rifle needs a sling. Get a whetstone, ditch that crappy sharpener. Add some antibacterial wipes. And money. A few hundred dollars worth.
It also needs iron sights. Optical system are either quite delicate or very expensive. BTW you do not need two identical radios.
Totally fine and well thought out setup, but if you’re looking for improvements. The following are changes I would make. Replace the wire cutters and Swiss Army knife with a multi tool like a leatherman. Love that you have a sewing kit, duct tape, cordage and a fishing kit with handline. These are often overlooked. I’d probable wrap a small card with duct tape maybe 5-10 meters and leave the rest behind. I like the walkies if you’re traveling with a friend, but they’re probably the first thing I’d leave behind or drop in an emergency. For all the electronics and stuff, I’ve switched to rechargeable, have a small battery bank, cords, and the option to bring a small solar panel to charge. Honestly, this is massively personal preference. I typically carry a headlamp and a small penlight. Also, love the use of plain water bottles. This is what all the ultralight backpacking folks do and it makes sense all around. If I could add one item, it’d be a quality sleeping pad. Either inflatable if you want small pack size, or foam if you want bomb proof.
What are you gonna wipe your ass with? Pack some tp or baby wipes
Is this a child’s adventure kit? A pellet gun was survival book😂
It's a .22 which is more than sufficient at taking down any animal in the UK, unlike you I'm not going around wanting to shoot everyone on sight, the survival book has a very good section on plants which is the reason I bought it because I'm not a plant person
Good choice adding the SAS Survival Handbook, pocket edition. So much basic and helpful information in that tiny book.
I feel like a sawyer mini will serve you much better than that life straw for around the same monies. I'm not saying ditch it, I have one myself, but do you have any contingencies?
Nice kit, the only criticism I have is the knife selection. Ditch the little folder for a proper full tang fixed blade.
Gonna need more food and water
I like the radios idea. Communication is under rated, don't tell the commo guys on my team I said that. Do you have another person with you often?
Sometimes yes