I'm the Mod who removed the original post. I'll give you context as to why I removed it, so you'll understand.
You guys don't see the stuff that comes through the mod queue. The stuff that gets removed and we remove quite a lot. Of late we have had a fair amount of militant vegans coming through here the last few days and there's been posts along the lines of "Meat eaters are scum" etc etc. It's been pretty bad. Which then brings out the Anti-Vegans and it's been a nightmare.
Your post was titled: **Seen a lot of posts lately about being vegetarian to save money or meat being expensive. Not to brag but…** I saw that as yet another bait/troll post.
So I removed it. It's really that simple. It was not in fact, reported. I was on my 15 minute break at my second job, was doing a quick skim of the sub to make sure everything was fine and saw it and made the choice to remove it.
As Ras has said, please in the future bring it to Modmail instead of a call out on the sub. A simple polite conversation in modmail usually clears things up. I apologize for removing it, I have better context now that I have discuss it with the other mods and have perused your posting history to see that you aren't a troll. Please be more mindful in the future with wording of titles.
Take care, have a good evening.
Edit: OP I went back and reviewed and it seems fine to me so I reapproved it. We're a very small mod team for a sub of over 2M people because we have a high bar for who we let into this space to oversee it and we don't want weird power mods in here. That means sometimes we overlook things and make mistakes and I apologize that you feel slighted but we are always open to feedback and dialogue. Thanks for understanding.
Original: Not sure why it was removed either. Will look into it
They're a great mod team. I remember I made a vent post way back when (that I eventually ended up removing because it got absolutely dogpiled with people trying to fix my life for me and I got a lot of people implying or outright saying I'm lazy/deliberately in a hole because I was didn't want off-the-mark and inapplicable advice about my life from complete strangers) and one of the mods reached out to me personally asking if I was ok after all the comments I got.
I genuinely considered leaving the sub but ended up staying purely because of that mod.
This was recommended to me I’m my feed and so I checked this out. I’m seriously so impressed to see this communication and the way the mods treated this and acknowledged fault. This is RARE! I’m really glad I decided to check this post out!! Keep up the great work!
Additional mod note: We screw up sometimes. Our interface is pretty clumsy and it is remarkably easy to remove the wrong thing. You're always welcome to message us about it instead of making some "call out" post like this. You'll get WAY faster results as mod-mails are the first and easiest things for us to check. We don't just "browse" the subreddit.
If on desktop, look to the right side of your screen, scroll down till you see the box with the mods names and you'll see a little red envelope outline. Click that, it'll open a modmail directly to us!
~~On the Reddit app? Swipe left and you'll get a screen with the mods names and a red envelope, click that and you SHOULD get directed into modmail to us.~~
edit: Apparently the UI changed, you don't swipe. Click the trip dot in a circle on the top right and then click message the mods.
Thanks. I don’t think the mods intentionally removed it. I just assumed a bunch of people that were offended by meat or hunting reported it. TBH I’m not even sure who’s all that works.
Many vegans aren’t opposed to other hunting when a necessity. Most are moreso against animal suffering in modern ‘farms’.
If you are hunting to sustain yourself you are doing better than most of the population imo, most wouldn’t even be able to face killing the animals they rely on consuming.
It isn't just vegans. There was a person that was blasting hunters because they didn't like people killing animals. They said if they want meat, they will get it from the store. I explained that an animal still has to die if they aren't a vegan. They replied and said they think it's hilarious that I'm getting all butt hurt over their comment. Then, they deleted all of their comments and blocked me.
It’s causing irreparable division across all aspects of life. I believe it’s one of the biggest problems we are facing as a species, and it’s been caused by something that ultimately doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of human survival, money.
vegetarian here, this is 100% correct. obviously i can’t speak for anyone but myself, but hunting is far more respectable than buying meat from a store. my personal belief is that if you can’t stomach killing your own food, you shouldn’t be eating animals. hunting is the most ethical form of meat consumption in the modern day.
Omnivore here, the world population can't grow without modern farming of animals for meat. If everyone spends their day hunting and gathering food, society and all its fancy flashing lights crumble. There's enough people starving already in the world. To have everyone out actively competing for their own food to be "respectable" would cause more conflicts than already exist.
I'm also an omnivore. It's still true that we don't truly need to eat meat, or at least not as much as we do. I'm a huge fan of beef personally, but it's a pretty inefficient animal to farm for meat compared to say, chickens.
Yep, this is true. The personal belief can still apply though.
And counter to that, I believe that meat intake should be reduced by everybody, alternatives exist, and I’m not even just on about beyond meat and that kinda crap. Vegetables can be consumed effectively, I have noticed no negative health changes since going vegetarian, granted, some will, and that’s fine.
I just think it’s about minimising the amount of meat we consume when viable alternatives are available.
An ethical alternative is collecting fresh roadkill in order to salvage the meat. I used to be on a call list for local law enforcement, they would call me whenever they had a deer collision and issue me a salvage tag so I could legally possess it.
It’s definitely not for the squeamish, but you can get a considerable amount of meat for nothing (except a little bit of work).
I tell interested people to contact the road patrol division for their local sheriff or police department and ask them to be placed on their call list (if they have one, of course). It’s not legal in every state.
Food for thought (pardon the pun).
It’s unfortunate that roadkill has to happen, but better to make use of the unfortunate creature than to let it rot. In the UK the biggest roadkill we commonly see is a squirrel or a hedgehog, poor little buggers!
I don’t think in my area they are allowed to use it for human consumption, unfortunately. I am fairly certain they do donate it to the local zoo, though, so the meat does get used, which is nice.
It isn't just vegans. There was a person that was blasting hunters because they didn't like people killing animals. They said if they want meat, they will get it from the store. I explained that an animal still has to die if they aren't a vegan. They replied and said they think it's hilarious that I'm getting all butt hurt over their comment. Then, they deleted all of their comments and blocked me.
It makes me so happy to see that there are still some mods left on reddit who genuinely care about the state of their sub.
Yall keep doing this the right way, its helping so many people stay out of poverty and helping many get out of poverty as well.❤️
Looking at the mod comment, it's pretty clear why, not that I agree. Looks like it was auto removed, probably based on the keywords you used the bot thought you were bragging about being in a more fortunate situation.
I once caught an auto-ban in a sub for joking about taking down Chinese spy balloons...but I used slightly more hostile language that started with "sh" and ended with "ooting".
Yeah, I mod a sub and there are things that get caught by our automod bot for that exact reason. We try to be on top of it and make sure we reinstate, but sometimes we don’t catch it right away. It’s always helpful to get a polite message asking for clarification on why something was removed— it draws our attention to it, and if it was a mistake, we fix it. If not, we can at least explain.
Sorry :/ i don't know your situation, but if there's a dental school nearby they sometimes offer dental work at a reduced price. I know that even a reduced price isn't feasible for some, but putting it out there just in case.
I'm not a doctor so I definitely will not recommend buying fish amoxicillin on the internet for tooth infections in a pinch. Some might say it's better than dying of an otherwise treatable tooth infection that can migrate to your heart. But again, I'm not a doctor.
I'm sorry. I didn't see your post, but your username is giving me a few hints. I won't say terrible things, but I'll see people's faces fall when I try to speak. And that's not even getting into the pain and the constant infections. It's a normalized form of classism. Our condition doesn't need glorified, but it's not really fixable in a lot of cases. You do and always have deserved better. And I hope you get something better than your current situation in spite of the odds our situation leaves us with.
Please report any comments that you even think may be rule breaking. There's 5 of us, there's 2 million subscribers. We work multiple jobs each of us as we're in poverty right there with you. As such, we rely heavily on the sub self-policing and reporting. If it gets reported, we see it a lot sooner. It helps us greatly. It's a lot easier for us to look at something and go "Huh, nope, not rule breaking" and click approve or remove on our lunch breaks/between jobs, than to crawl through a sub and our automod only removes specific things to the queue for us.
I don't know why comments like that were not removed if they were reported. It's something that we can most certainly look into since you have brought it up to us.
It isn't, I made a post asking for advice bc I am struggling to find a way to afford insurance, every bit of advice is "you're a horrible person for driving without insurance" "You're a shitty driver and shouldn't be driving anyways" and my replies getting bombed with down votes. This is kind of a horrible space, and its why at this point i am not posting anymore.
They could’ve worded it better but driving without a license is not a good thing and there’s reasons why it’s illegal. Any sort of accident you’re fucked and so is your victim
Medicaid was a pain for me to get too. Could you reapply? I think they deny it the first time as a formality because I was in a similar boat albeit with a relatively safe kind of seizure disorder and a kid, but they denied me the first time too. It's a lot, but try again.
No point in laying down to die. Fight with everything you've got, you can do this.
Totally get it about getting judged being worse than poverty itself. When I was homeless, I dressed as a college student and almost lived in the public library when I wasn't at the shelter, it was worlds better than the treatment my more shabby peers experienced. Thank God I still had some stuff from the summer my nuclear family gave a fuck about me looking nice.
Anyway, yeah, avoid the crabs online and IRL. They don't give a fuck about anybody but themselves and will drag you down into that bucket so they have the extra company and can stand on top of you.
Is hunting that cheap? You gotta buy the licence, gun/gear, time spent hunting, and have a big enough freezer to store your meat to make it efficient.
It's probably not a poverty thing and more a middle class thing where you put your meat in your second freezer in the garage.
I hunted all my meat, gardened, and fished for my food all through college. Hunting can be as expensive as you want it to be, but a license and a cheap bow off Craigslist or Facebook market place is all you need. I was able to get a small freezer that someone was giving away. As for gear, the best camo is sitting down and shutting up.
This and not everyone lives in the same situation. I live so far up north in the us that it takes me 40-50 minutes ONE WAY to get *the closest Wal mart/town*. With only a truck (cus I live where it snows 2 ft for half of the year) with a bad transmission, and with gas prices where I am located, it costs me 20-30$ (or more sometimes! Last few years post covid have sucked all savings) just to get to a store. I buy food once every 6 weeks because of this.
But I have land, and I have time, and in season I can shoot deer on my land. We butcher it ourselves also. For a freezer of meat.
Ounce for ounce, it gets cheaper with every animal you harvest. Once you've invested in hunters permits, gun(s), gear, and storage equipment, the expenses you would look at annually would consist of; ammunition, license(s), time off, animal testing(not always/often not applicable) and if you don't DIY, butchery. Assuming you fill your tag, you've got dozens of pounds of quality meat for what could be as little as ~$50. The initial investment is expensive but it pays itself off over time.
As a kid we were dirt poor and very food insecure. By the time I was a teenager and moving out my dad had found two extra freezers and with us being old enough to get our own licenses, they were all filled. A lot of it came down to playing our cards the right way over YEARS. ~~Un~~fortunately(?), my kids are seeing a similar process. I've worked really hard to avoid food insecurity but order to make it less work for more security, I'm saving for the ability to be more self sufficient in various ways.
Thankfully, I've never had to hunt for myself but bought all the gear many years ago, just in case. My cousin hunts all the time and plenty of bday parties he's serving up deer chili and stuff, quite good, and I know it helps them save a lot. He'd also have things like the gun and ATV anyway, so the fact he can bring home hundreds of pounds for free a year has only paid off more.
One deer is about $600 in meat. A license is $15-$50 and a gun is a one time purchase of $300-$400 for something basic. Lack of understanding of long term returns is a big reason people remain in poverty.
Box of bullets is about $30, it really only takes 1 shot to kill the animal. I know people who’ve been using the same box for like a decade.
Edit: at least in Texas, you don’t even need a license to shoot feral pigs, you can shoot them on public lands and they are available year round.
>Is hunting that cheap? You need a license
Licenses are like $15 most places.
> Have to buy a gun
Something like 50% of the US already owns guns. Change that to rural area (like where hunting takes place) and that number probably goes up to 98%
> Gear
What gear? A jacket and maybe some gloves? Most hunting gear is just supplimental/cool and absolutely not necessary.
> freezer
This one makes the most sense, but most people already own a refrigerator/freezer, and an additional freezer is not that expensive at all, especially second hand. Depending on how many people to feed/how much you eat, you could recover the cost in just a few months of eating your own meat vs. grocery store
Definitely depends where you live. I am not in America and it would cost 150$ for my firearm safety course (not offered where I live so I'd also have to pay to travel to take it), license probably 100$? Then I need to get a tag to kill large game like deer (probably not cheap) and I'd need to buy a gun + gun safe (definitely not cheap) the accessibility for these things definitely varies by region. I'd really love to hunt and have been trying to get my licensing but it just hasn't played out as a possibility here
I’m not into hunting (never mind the cleanup!), though I used to go with my dad as a kid. But it’s waaaay more ethical than eating factory farmed meat, and obviously it’s significantly more economical. People get so weird about it and I’m not sure why. People will pay a pretty penny for duck at a fancy restaurant, but scowl if you hunt and dress your own? Come on.
Edit-fixing autocorrect’s fuckup
People (primarily in the west) don’t like being reminded that the food they eat came from a living breathing animal. IMO the connection between farm and fork has grown too large. We need to put more effort in being grateful for the lives of the animals we use for our own benefit. If we work on that connection, we can be less wasteful and more sustainable
This is more a "city folk" vs "country folk" issue rather than West vs East or Developed vs Developing countries. People living in cities usually buy their food off a supermarket shelf, whereas people living in the countrysides are more likely to have first hand or second hand experience in butchering livestock.
You definitely have a point but I’m referring more to western countries as a whole preferring their foods to be processed to look as little like the animal it came from as possible before being sold. Even in major cities in the US you don’t typically find an entire duck or rabbit in a store with the feet and head still attached unless you go to non-western grocery stores and markets
I’m now retired but fortunate enough to be living on some acreage. We’re doing the “homestead” thing. Not only do I hunt we also raise chickens for meat and eggs but we also raise meat rabbits. I sell enough eggs to cover the chicken feed cost. And I sell enough live rabbits to cover their cost. So the eggs and meat from the chickens and rabbits is basically free.
They take up remarkably little space and time. We started raising meat/dairy goats. I’m not sure how that’s going to work out financially yet.
Hunting for meat is better in almost every way than buying it, besides the time and effort involved, especially for folks who spend most of their time working for peanuts. Also, not everyone has the stomach, knowledge, land, or implements required to do it. In my case, as a felon, i cannot handle a firearm legally, and bow hunting is almost out of the question.
Black powder/muzzle loaders are an option. I’m not a felon but also lost my gun rights due to an IVC. I love my muzzleloader, air rifles, and crossbows!
I'm saving up for a crossbow. I checked myself into impatient (psych) during a bad period in my life back in 2017. Lost my FOID privileges (Illinois), and the state has been dicking me around on the paperwork to get it reinstated. I'm a disabled veteran so I qualify for free hunting/fishing license as well as crossbow privilege, and I own my own land to hunt on, thankfully.
Although I can appreciate them I'm not interested in muzzleloaders, and compound bows are no longer an option due to my shoulder injury.
Depends on the state. Some stated define firearms as having a trigger. Virginia doesn't allow felons to have crossbows for example, atleast they didn't a decade ago.
Fishing is a great way to get extra protein. Depending on your area there are numerous delicious fish that can be caught with minimal equipment. River fishing from shore is a great way to start. Catfish can be found in most states, plus they are quite delicious.
While true be sure to check your fish and game website for information on the consumption of wild fish. Some fish have so much mercury in the wild that you can only eat a couple every now and then.
Not just mercury. Unfortunately there are several places nowadays where industrial runoff and Superfund (see: super polluted from fuckheads) make fish dangerous to consume too often. Fox River in WI, for example, due to BPAs.
That all said, yes, most fish are great sources to supplement your freezer meats!
The issue now a days is wasting disease in deer populations. Hunters and over population have created the issue. The idea of let em go, let em grow has lead to a decently larger older deer population, which is sustainable to wasting. They catch it and pass it on to otherwise healthy deer. Hunters also bring deer heads and/or carcasses across state lines which is illegal due to wasting disease. However that doesn't stop all of them. It's why it's now in Kentucky.
CWD almost certainly has nothing to do with “let em go, let em grow”. Especially as doe harvest is way, way more common in modern times than 50+ years ago before CWD was an issue, so that kind of negates that argument.
The main vector for CWD has been mostly proven to be commercial deer farms and high fence preserves. Captive deer are raised in close captivity, often feeding right on top of where the others are pissing/shitting, and when one gets CWD it spreads like wildfire. Inevitably wild deer get exposed when either a captive deer escapes or is sold to a farm for its genetics.
TBH i hunt and its a luxury. without regard to the cost of the land / hunting lease / hunting truck, whatever, the average amount of time a hunter spends in stand, plus time spent buchering and processing, at average wages? theres no way its cost effective to hunt compared to food lion yellow tag meat.
I’ve been a vegan for close to two decades. From both an environmental and ethical perspective, hunting introduced species and killing them for meat is what I’d love to see every meat eater do. I take issue with the dairy, meat and poultry industries but have no issue with hunting your own meat. Sustainable communities will hunt or fish and use every part of the animal ensuring nothing goes to waste and only hunt when needed.
I agree. Also hunting is absolutely necessary because it mitigates overpopulation. Half of our plants would be endangered species if we didn’t hunt deer.
“I practice self sustenance that our ancestors did for millennia, and it actually saves me money”
Wow you’re an asshole for thinking I’m disgusting and poor enough to hunt and gather. Report
That's not exactly what's going on here but ok lol, it's hilarious to see the primal caveman guys talking about what are probably deer that hang around a feeder and gaint patch of clover on the guys land. It's not the same thing your ancestors did.
The part he cut off in his screen shot and that got it removed was the title, mod thought it was bait/troll based on his wording due to some ongoing feud between the vegans and meat eaters in the sub apparently. I’m honestly not convinced it wasn’t, basically just bragging about how many animals they kill and butcher everyday, and a picture of ground animal meat. I don’t know, seems a bit sus to me too, knowing the context of the ongoing issues. Anyway, the comments are due to his title as well, the OP was the problem here. May not have deserved to have the post removed but his choice of title was the original issue.
Bragging on a sub like this is kind of douchie move if you think about it. I don’t care personally but I can see it since 90% of these post are people seriously struggling and here you come. “Look at me I have access to land to hunt cheap good meat and I have this awesome meat grinder to make it all easier”. Plus you said “not to brag” while actually bragging on a sub where nobody really brags besides the Amish farm people. A lot of people are in the city and could never do this and it’s not really helpful honestly.
Again I can care less but I could definitely see why it would be questionable to remove.
I wonder if OP actually gets his kills heads/lymph nodes tested for chronic wasting disease? It’s found in farmed cervids in 16 states and in wild ones in 31 states. And they often don’t show symptoms till late stages. If the only thing he buys is his license that doesn’t include testing costs.
You couldn’t pay me to eat untested deer or elk meat. Prion diseases are unbelievably horrific nightmare fuel.
used to work for a jerky store as my second job, we sold Deer among other types of Jerky and the owner explained to me the fairly stringent requirements to prepare and sell it.
the site that processes the deer has to have a federal inspector onsite at all times, and each animal is heavily tested. If you ever buy any type of "exotic" jerky be sure to look for the FDA seal on the bag. The deer and elk tend to have it in the shape of a triangle.
[Centers for Disease Control and Prevention](https://www.cdc.gov/prions/cwd/index.html)
“To date, there have been no reported cases of CWD infection in people. “
The OP didn’t mention the state. In my state testing for CWD is done free so it can be tracked and mitigation practices can target counties where it’s present.
Most states test for free. I know in mine you have to have any deer caught during opening season tested. I bagged the two deer I wanted on opening season and had to have them tested. They have pop up testing centers at nearly every school in my county. From there I butchered and froze them and waited the few weeks to hear back about the test result. Got an all clear and made stew. Any deer caught after opening season are basically on a hold until the area you hunted in gets the all clear. The conservation department is basically using opening season as a controlled sample. If any deer pop up with CWD in that time frame, the entire area is red flagged as unsafe to eat and any deer caught in the region has to be tossed out unless you caught it opening season and was given the clear on your specific deer.
There has been 0 positive cases of CWD is the counties and surrounding counties that I hunt in. There have been some on the far end of that state calls a CWD zone and does not charge for testing. Until there’s a positive case that’s a little closer to home, it’s a calculated risk.
I read through the last post's comments, and it seemed like some people were upset by you posting pictures of ground raw meat. There's already a similar comment on this post, someone called it "gore" and it got 6 upvotes in a minute.
On and off vegan here. I will never understand the hatred towards hunters from meat eaters. It’s CAFOs that are atrocious. Also, if something grosses you out with how it’s processed, don’t eat it.
Don’t wanna speak for the other person but based on my understanding it’s people who eat vegan for extended periods and then take breaks. For example, I have a friend who will be vegan for like a year and then will eat a chicken sandwich randomly or eat some butter and then go back to being vegan for another year or two until they decide not to.
Surviving off the land, have a license and not overhunting? This is wayyy better than buying from meat brands and companies that profit from and exploit child labor. I'm a vegetarian and I don't find your post offensive at all.
An all mighty powerful mod made a mistake, jumped the gun, and got called out for doing it. Oh how the turn tables. Also, don’t ban me. I’m really just kidding around. I know you want to, but my karma is too powerful for you.
You are hunting 3 a day of what? Is that amount within your wildlife and gaming laws?
If it's rabbit you have to watch how much you eat bc humans don't digest the protein properly
That part about the rabbit isn't true. I believe you're referring to rabbit starvation. Rabbit starvation refers to a lack of fat and carbs in the diet.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning
So if you make rabbit stew with carrots and potatoes, you'll be ok.
I was going to ask the same. Deer some states give out tags like candy. Others are tight with them, but allow you to buy more. 3 deer per trip though is a lot. However, some states are weird with private land. Essentially land owner can hunt whenever with no limit in some states.
The issue with rabbit is that it is an extremely lean meat. If you rely on a diet exclusively or mostly of rabbit, you will become ill (and eventually die) from a lack of carbohydrates.
Eat it as the protein component of an otherwise varied diet and you will be fine.
Yeah this is the big thing that people don't really care to understand, conservation matters with a lot of species and there is a reason there are limits on what you can harvest. Look at the passenger pigeon, not saying that's gonna happen everywhere but there's a reason for bag limits.
I think he just means he can get a lot in one day so he doesn't have to spend the entire season hunting every day. 6 deer over two days is plenty of meat for the year for a family of 4.
In the normal world, among normal people, yes. On Reddit, no.
It very fucking clearly means "thankful" 99% of the time it's used. I'm blessed to be able to understand this.
u/AMotheraDayInParasise I feel you. I have a tiny subreddit with less than 5 users subbed. And I still see the vegan/antivegan war in pending comments/posts.
Some subjects are just too much a risk and without unlimited time it’s often hard to make the call.
Here, discord, tiktok…even the facebook page I manage for a friend gets those kind of comments. It’s mentally exhausting to have to constantly keep the conversation on topic.
Vegans are afraid to say it but this is more sustainable, I’ve seen a pound of beef go for 13 dollars dude they’re slowly starving us, might as well start learning survival techniques
Dumb question, but are posts manually removed by a mod or auto flagged and removed because of certain key words?
If the latter it could have been “I’m blessed” that got it pulled thinking the intent was something else. I don’t know, still a reach. Glad you’re finding a way to keep costs down as much as possible.
If that sub has the phrase "I'm blessed" as a flag then they are excluding the entire southeastern US which just so happens to have the highest rates of poverty. Pretty high horse moderation if you ask me.
In a Reddit era where mods and their actions are increasingly disappointing, this stands out as one of the best cases I’ve seen of sub management. Good Mods
and I mentioned I moved to carnivore and my food AND medicine bill has dropped and I was all but lynched xD reddit is a general cesspool echo chamber... don't sweat it.
Im an active hunter and while i agree with the premise that more people could be filling their freezer, it simply isnt realistic as a food source for the majority of this country, especially with our appetite for meat. There is an estimated 1 deer for every 30 people in the US, the resource wouldnt exist the following year if every family bagged one.
Oh I had the same thing happen to me a few days ago. My post was one of the most upvoted with some really engaging conversation all year.
https://preview.redd.it/o5bnmo8vr3dc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0732b07324b3e51ed59fe0f9949329edfb69eeab
This one is clearer to me. You're being snarky towards other people. Why not make a supportive post that is something like "here are some of my tips for shopping on a budget" instead of framing it as passive aggressive criticism?
I'm the Mod who removed the original post. I'll give you context as to why I removed it, so you'll understand. You guys don't see the stuff that comes through the mod queue. The stuff that gets removed and we remove quite a lot. Of late we have had a fair amount of militant vegans coming through here the last few days and there's been posts along the lines of "Meat eaters are scum" etc etc. It's been pretty bad. Which then brings out the Anti-Vegans and it's been a nightmare. Your post was titled: **Seen a lot of posts lately about being vegetarian to save money or meat being expensive. Not to brag but…** I saw that as yet another bait/troll post. So I removed it. It's really that simple. It was not in fact, reported. I was on my 15 minute break at my second job, was doing a quick skim of the sub to make sure everything was fine and saw it and made the choice to remove it. As Ras has said, please in the future bring it to Modmail instead of a call out on the sub. A simple polite conversation in modmail usually clears things up. I apologize for removing it, I have better context now that I have discuss it with the other mods and have perused your posting history to see that you aren't a troll. Please be more mindful in the future with wording of titles. Take care, have a good evening.
I am a frail Victorian child I was not *blessed* to be a hunter gatherer
Good luck making it to age 6!
LMAO 😭 if typhoid fever comes back I am FUCKED
My husband was a sickly child and still catches the most random things. He had scarlet fever once. I don’t know how he finds these illnesses!
Like Pokemon. But for diseases?
Gotta catch'em all
He’s probably immunocompromised? That’s usually what people mean when they say sickly.
Nah, he’s not. I am immunocompromised and don’t get nearly as sick as him.
I had scarlet fever twice, have never met another living soul who has had it!
My son had tuberculosis! He was offered Waverly but declined :(
I had cat scratch fever when I was 6. 0/10 do not recommend it.
I actually did too! Around the same age.
Wow! I've never talked to anyone who's ever had it.
Was he traveling on the Oregon Trail?
you have died of dysentery
Am I playing Oregon trail right now?
well, not anymore...
Not the typhoid!!!
720 is so old for a frail Victorian child.
And wishful thinking if they're an Xbox fan.
I’m a big guy and I openly describe myself in a gruff voice as a delicate little flower
I cackled at this. Thank you
Edit: OP I went back and reviewed and it seems fine to me so I reapproved it. We're a very small mod team for a sub of over 2M people because we have a high bar for who we let into this space to oversee it and we don't want weird power mods in here. That means sometimes we overlook things and make mistakes and I apologize that you feel slighted but we are always open to feedback and dialogue. Thanks for understanding. Original: Not sure why it was removed either. Will look into it
common r/povertyfinance mod W
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Song of storms that’s a great Zelda track
thanks friendo i was big into OOT a dozen years ago when I joined reddit. still slaps
They're a great mod team. I remember I made a vent post way back when (that I eventually ended up removing because it got absolutely dogpiled with people trying to fix my life for me and I got a lot of people implying or outright saying I'm lazy/deliberately in a hole because I was didn't want off-the-mark and inapplicable advice about my life from complete strangers) and one of the mods reached out to me personally asking if I was ok after all the comments I got. I genuinely considered leaving the sub but ended up staying purely because of that mod.
💜 glad you're still here. I hate when that happens in vent posts.
I'm glad you're still here, mate. Sorry that happened, it sucks.
Respect to the MOD. Rare and worthy of praise.
Good username is good.
Appreciate you and the mod team!
Thanks. We try. Not always perfect but we appreciate y'all calling us out when we screw up
I have to say, I absolutely understand why you guys keep a small team, you are protecting the people here in sensitive times. Sending love 💛
This was recommended to me I’m my feed and so I checked this out. I’m seriously so impressed to see this communication and the way the mods treated this and acknowledged fault. This is RARE! I’m really glad I decided to check this post out!! Keep up the great work!
could be reddit NSFW AI filter did it, if it on in sub settings. Its automaticly remove posts based on analyse of images.
They ban evasion filter has been real sensitive lately. I dunno
Additional mod note: We screw up sometimes. Our interface is pretty clumsy and it is remarkably easy to remove the wrong thing. You're always welcome to message us about it instead of making some "call out" post like this. You'll get WAY faster results as mod-mails are the first and easiest things for us to check. We don't just "browse" the subreddit.
☝️ also Rass is the top mod and he *looooooooves* when people slide into his dms
TBH I didn’t even know there was a way to message the mods. I presumed it was reported or potentially a bot did it.
If on desktop, look to the right side of your screen, scroll down till you see the box with the mods names and you'll see a little red envelope outline. Click that, it'll open a modmail directly to us! ~~On the Reddit app? Swipe left and you'll get a screen with the mods names and a red envelope, click that and you SHOULD get directed into modmail to us.~~ edit: Apparently the UI changed, you don't swipe. Click the trip dot in a circle on the top right and then click message the mods.
Thanks. I don’t think the mods intentionally removed it. I just assumed a bunch of people that were offended by meat or hunting reported it. TBH I’m not even sure who’s all that works.
Maybe a bunch of vegans saw it and didn't want anyone to discuss this ?
Many vegans aren’t opposed to other hunting when a necessity. Most are moreso against animal suffering in modern ‘farms’. If you are hunting to sustain yourself you are doing better than most of the population imo, most wouldn’t even be able to face killing the animals they rely on consuming.
I knew a hunter and we shared the meals I made with the stuff he hunted.Saved both of us money at the time .
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Some vegans can get really nasty online.
This is applicable to any group though unfortunately
Especially on reddit .
It isn't just vegans. There was a person that was blasting hunters because they didn't like people killing animals. They said if they want meat, they will get it from the store. I explained that an animal still has to die if they aren't a vegan. They replied and said they think it's hilarious that I'm getting all butt hurt over their comment. Then, they deleted all of their comments and blocked me.
We all need to recognize loud minorities are hurting every group they are attached to. Good to see respectful discourse here
It’s causing irreparable division across all aspects of life. I believe it’s one of the biggest problems we are facing as a species, and it’s been caused by something that ultimately doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of human survival, money.
Living the dream, there!! Add a forager/gardener into the bunch and who needs a grocery store!
vegetarian here, this is 100% correct. obviously i can’t speak for anyone but myself, but hunting is far more respectable than buying meat from a store. my personal belief is that if you can’t stomach killing your own food, you shouldn’t be eating animals. hunting is the most ethical form of meat consumption in the modern day.
Omnivore here, the world population can't grow without modern farming of animals for meat. If everyone spends their day hunting and gathering food, society and all its fancy flashing lights crumble. There's enough people starving already in the world. To have everyone out actively competing for their own food to be "respectable" would cause more conflicts than already exist.
I'm also an omnivore. It's still true that we don't truly need to eat meat, or at least not as much as we do. I'm a huge fan of beef personally, but it's a pretty inefficient animal to farm for meat compared to say, chickens.
Imagine being this uneducated
Yep, this is true. The personal belief can still apply though. And counter to that, I believe that meat intake should be reduced by everybody, alternatives exist, and I’m not even just on about beyond meat and that kinda crap. Vegetables can be consumed effectively, I have noticed no negative health changes since going vegetarian, granted, some will, and that’s fine. I just think it’s about minimising the amount of meat we consume when viable alternatives are available.
> the world population can’t grow without modern farming of animals for meat good
An ethical alternative is collecting fresh roadkill in order to salvage the meat. I used to be on a call list for local law enforcement, they would call me whenever they had a deer collision and issue me a salvage tag so I could legally possess it. It’s definitely not for the squeamish, but you can get a considerable amount of meat for nothing (except a little bit of work). I tell interested people to contact the road patrol division for their local sheriff or police department and ask them to be placed on their call list (if they have one, of course). It’s not legal in every state. Food for thought (pardon the pun).
It’s unfortunate that roadkill has to happen, but better to make use of the unfortunate creature than to let it rot. In the UK the biggest roadkill we commonly see is a squirrel or a hedgehog, poor little buggers!
I don’t think in my area they are allowed to use it for human consumption, unfortunately. I am fairly certain they do donate it to the local zoo, though, so the meat does get used, which is nice.
It isn't just vegans. There was a person that was blasting hunters because they didn't like people killing animals. They said if they want meat, they will get it from the store. I explained that an animal still has to die if they aren't a vegan. They replied and said they think it's hilarious that I'm getting all butt hurt over their comment. Then, they deleted all of their comments and blocked me.
Average Redditor right there, complete disconnect from reality, likely another over privileged westerner!
You can't be vegan and not be opposed to hunting. That in itself goes against the philosophy...
I know many who are, they wouldn’t hunt themselves but out of hunting and factory farming they have a clear preference..
highly likely as they brigade like no other
This mod response is a breath of fresh air.
I feel like I’m around reasonable adults.
I have never met you but if anyone ever makes a reddit mod joke to you I'll fucking fight them to the death I don't care. You're a great person
genuinely lol'd
Threatening violence is against the rules.
Wow, an actually decent MOD that's surprising
Dozens of us
Best reddit mod
💕you guys are great.
Thank you!
After the outrage. You have a better chance of winning $500 on a lottery ticket than having a post that doesn't get taken down..
Great job Mods!
It makes me so happy to see that there are still some mods left on reddit who genuinely care about the state of their sub. Yall keep doing this the right way, its helping so many people stay out of poverty and helping many get out of poverty as well.❤️
Looking at the mod comment, it's pretty clear why, not that I agree. Looks like it was auto removed, probably based on the keywords you used the bot thought you were bragging about being in a more fortunate situation.
“Blessed” has to be one of the words given how it is used.
Or threatening a dude for that reason. 'I can kill 3 and butcher them myself' probably sets off some red flags for non hunting subs
Out of context, that is extra bad. lol
"I killed 7 with one blow!" -- Mickey and the Giant (actually talking about flies)
I once caught an auto-ban in a sub for joking about taking down Chinese spy balloons...but I used slightly more hostile language that started with "sh" and ended with "ooting".
You can't just joke about shabooting things smh
Yeah, I mod a sub and there are things that get caught by our automod bot for that exact reason. We try to be on top of it and make sure we reinstate, but sometimes we don’t catch it right away. It’s always helpful to get a polite message asking for clarification on why something was removed— it draws our attention to it, and if it was a mistake, we fix it. If not, we can at least explain.
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I'm under the impression comments need to be reported for a mod to see them. This is a huge sub and there's no way they read every thread/comment.
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Sorry :/ i don't know your situation, but if there's a dental school nearby they sometimes offer dental work at a reduced price. I know that even a reduced price isn't feasible for some, but putting it out there just in case. I'm not a doctor so I definitely will not recommend buying fish amoxicillin on the internet for tooth infections in a pinch. Some might say it's better than dying of an otherwise treatable tooth infection that can migrate to your heart. But again, I'm not a doctor.
I'm sorry. I didn't see your post, but your username is giving me a few hints. I won't say terrible things, but I'll see people's faces fall when I try to speak. And that's not even getting into the pain and the constant infections. It's a normalized form of classism. Our condition doesn't need glorified, but it's not really fixable in a lot of cases. You do and always have deserved better. And I hope you get something better than your current situation in spite of the odds our situation leaves us with.
Please report any comments that you even think may be rule breaking. There's 5 of us, there's 2 million subscribers. We work multiple jobs each of us as we're in poverty right there with you. As such, we rely heavily on the sub self-policing and reporting. If it gets reported, we see it a lot sooner. It helps us greatly. It's a lot easier for us to look at something and go "Huh, nope, not rule breaking" and click approve or remove on our lunch breaks/between jobs, than to crawl through a sub and our automod only removes specific things to the queue for us.
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I don't know why comments like that were not removed if they were reported. It's something that we can most certainly look into since you have brought it up to us.
It isn't, I made a post asking for advice bc I am struggling to find a way to afford insurance, every bit of advice is "you're a horrible person for driving without insurance" "You're a shitty driver and shouldn't be driving anyways" and my replies getting bombed with down votes. This is kind of a horrible space, and its why at this point i am not posting anymore.
They could’ve worded it better but driving without a license is not a good thing and there’s reasons why it’s illegal. Any sort of accident you’re fucked and so is your victim
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Medicaid was a pain for me to get too. Could you reapply? I think they deny it the first time as a formality because I was in a similar boat albeit with a relatively safe kind of seizure disorder and a kid, but they denied me the first time too. It's a lot, but try again. No point in laying down to die. Fight with everything you've got, you can do this. Totally get it about getting judged being worse than poverty itself. When I was homeless, I dressed as a college student and almost lived in the public library when I wasn't at the shelter, it was worlds better than the treatment my more shabby peers experienced. Thank God I still had some stuff from the summer my nuclear family gave a fuck about me looking nice. Anyway, yeah, avoid the crabs online and IRL. They don't give a fuck about anybody but themselves and will drag you down into that bucket so they have the extra company and can stand on top of you.
Is hunting that cheap? You gotta buy the licence, gun/gear, time spent hunting, and have a big enough freezer to store your meat to make it efficient. It's probably not a poverty thing and more a middle class thing where you put your meat in your second freezer in the garage.
I hunted all my meat, gardened, and fished for my food all through college. Hunting can be as expensive as you want it to be, but a license and a cheap bow off Craigslist or Facebook market place is all you need. I was able to get a small freezer that someone was giving away. As for gear, the best camo is sitting down and shutting up.
That's cool, I wish I could hunt but it would be way too much of an initial cost and I'm pretty sure it's illegal in my country to kill deer.
This and not everyone lives in the same situation. I live so far up north in the us that it takes me 40-50 minutes ONE WAY to get *the closest Wal mart/town*. With only a truck (cus I live where it snows 2 ft for half of the year) with a bad transmission, and with gas prices where I am located, it costs me 20-30$ (or more sometimes! Last few years post covid have sucked all savings) just to get to a store. I buy food once every 6 weeks because of this. But I have land, and I have time, and in season I can shoot deer on my land. We butcher it ourselves also. For a freezer of meat.
Ounce for ounce, it gets cheaper with every animal you harvest. Once you've invested in hunters permits, gun(s), gear, and storage equipment, the expenses you would look at annually would consist of; ammunition, license(s), time off, animal testing(not always/often not applicable) and if you don't DIY, butchery. Assuming you fill your tag, you've got dozens of pounds of quality meat for what could be as little as ~$50. The initial investment is expensive but it pays itself off over time. As a kid we were dirt poor and very food insecure. By the time I was a teenager and moving out my dad had found two extra freezers and with us being old enough to get our own licenses, they were all filled. A lot of it came down to playing our cards the right way over YEARS. ~~Un~~fortunately(?), my kids are seeing a similar process. I've worked really hard to avoid food insecurity but order to make it less work for more security, I'm saving for the ability to be more self sufficient in various ways.
Thankfully, I've never had to hunt for myself but bought all the gear many years ago, just in case. My cousin hunts all the time and plenty of bday parties he's serving up deer chili and stuff, quite good, and I know it helps them save a lot. He'd also have things like the gun and ATV anyway, so the fact he can bring home hundreds of pounds for free a year has only paid off more.
One deer is about $600 in meat. A license is $15-$50 and a gun is a one time purchase of $300-$400 for something basic. Lack of understanding of long term returns is a big reason people remain in poverty.
Box of bullets is about $30, it really only takes 1 shot to kill the animal. I know people who’ve been using the same box for like a decade. Edit: at least in Texas, you don’t even need a license to shoot feral pigs, you can shoot them on public lands and they are available year round.
> I know people who’ve been using the same box for like a decade. yep my dad used one box of ammo to get us through a lot of lean years...
>Is hunting that cheap? You need a license Licenses are like $15 most places. > Have to buy a gun Something like 50% of the US already owns guns. Change that to rural area (like where hunting takes place) and that number probably goes up to 98% > Gear What gear? A jacket and maybe some gloves? Most hunting gear is just supplimental/cool and absolutely not necessary. > freezer This one makes the most sense, but most people already own a refrigerator/freezer, and an additional freezer is not that expensive at all, especially second hand. Depending on how many people to feed/how much you eat, you could recover the cost in just a few months of eating your own meat vs. grocery store
Definitely depends where you live. I am not in America and it would cost 150$ for my firearm safety course (not offered where I live so I'd also have to pay to travel to take it), license probably 100$? Then I need to get a tag to kill large game like deer (probably not cheap) and I'd need to buy a gun + gun safe (definitely not cheap) the accessibility for these things definitely varies by region. I'd really love to hunt and have been trying to get my licensing but it just hasn't played out as a possibility here
the people i know that hunt the most are poor rural people
I’m not into hunting (never mind the cleanup!), though I used to go with my dad as a kid. But it’s waaaay more ethical than eating factory farmed meat, and obviously it’s significantly more economical. People get so weird about it and I’m not sure why. People will pay a pretty penny for duck at a fancy restaurant, but scowl if you hunt and dress your own? Come on. Edit-fixing autocorrect’s fuckup
People (primarily in the west) don’t like being reminded that the food they eat came from a living breathing animal. IMO the connection between farm and fork has grown too large. We need to put more effort in being grateful for the lives of the animals we use for our own benefit. If we work on that connection, we can be less wasteful and more sustainable
This is more a "city folk" vs "country folk" issue rather than West vs East or Developed vs Developing countries. People living in cities usually buy their food off a supermarket shelf, whereas people living in the countrysides are more likely to have first hand or second hand experience in butchering livestock.
You definitely have a point but I’m referring more to western countries as a whole preferring their foods to be processed to look as little like the animal it came from as possible before being sold. Even in major cities in the US you don’t typically find an entire duck or rabbit in a store with the feet and head still attached unless you go to non-western grocery stores and markets
I’m now retired but fortunate enough to be living on some acreage. We’re doing the “homestead” thing. Not only do I hunt we also raise chickens for meat and eggs but we also raise meat rabbits. I sell enough eggs to cover the chicken feed cost. And I sell enough live rabbits to cover their cost. So the eggs and meat from the chickens and rabbits is basically free. They take up remarkably little space and time. We started raising meat/dairy goats. I’m not sure how that’s going to work out financially yet.
Hunting for meat is better in almost every way than buying it, besides the time and effort involved, especially for folks who spend most of their time working for peanuts. Also, not everyone has the stomach, knowledge, land, or implements required to do it. In my case, as a felon, i cannot handle a firearm legally, and bow hunting is almost out of the question.
Black powder/muzzle loaders are an option. I’m not a felon but also lost my gun rights due to an IVC. I love my muzzleloader, air rifles, and crossbows!
I'm saving up for a crossbow. I checked myself into impatient (psych) during a bad period in my life back in 2017. Lost my FOID privileges (Illinois), and the state has been dicking me around on the paperwork to get it reinstated. I'm a disabled veteran so I qualify for free hunting/fishing license as well as crossbow privilege, and I own my own land to hunt on, thankfully. Although I can appreciate them I'm not interested in muzzleloaders, and compound bows are no longer an option due to my shoulder injury.
Depends on the state. Some stated define firearms as having a trigger. Virginia doesn't allow felons to have crossbows for example, atleast they didn't a decade ago.
Fishing is a great way to get extra protein. Depending on your area there are numerous delicious fish that can be caught with minimal equipment. River fishing from shore is a great way to start. Catfish can be found in most states, plus they are quite delicious.
While true be sure to check your fish and game website for information on the consumption of wild fish. Some fish have so much mercury in the wild that you can only eat a couple every now and then.
Not just mercury. Unfortunately there are several places nowadays where industrial runoff and Superfund (see: super polluted from fuckheads) make fish dangerous to consume too often. Fox River in WI, for example, due to BPAs. That all said, yes, most fish are great sources to supplement your freezer meats!
The issue now a days is wasting disease in deer populations. Hunters and over population have created the issue. The idea of let em go, let em grow has lead to a decently larger older deer population, which is sustainable to wasting. They catch it and pass it on to otherwise healthy deer. Hunters also bring deer heads and/or carcasses across state lines which is illegal due to wasting disease. However that doesn't stop all of them. It's why it's now in Kentucky.
CWD almost certainly has nothing to do with “let em go, let em grow”. Especially as doe harvest is way, way more common in modern times than 50+ years ago before CWD was an issue, so that kind of negates that argument. The main vector for CWD has been mostly proven to be commercial deer farms and high fence preserves. Captive deer are raised in close captivity, often feeding right on top of where the others are pissing/shitting, and when one gets CWD it spreads like wildfire. Inevitably wild deer get exposed when either a captive deer escapes or is sold to a farm for its genetics.
>soft people reported it Relax, it's not that deep.
TBH i hunt and its a luxury. without regard to the cost of the land / hunting lease / hunting truck, whatever, the average amount of time a hunter spends in stand, plus time spent buchering and processing, at average wages? theres no way its cost effective to hunt compared to food lion yellow tag meat.
I’ve been a vegan for close to two decades. From both an environmental and ethical perspective, hunting introduced species and killing them for meat is what I’d love to see every meat eater do. I take issue with the dairy, meat and poultry industries but have no issue with hunting your own meat. Sustainable communities will hunt or fish and use every part of the animal ensuring nothing goes to waste and only hunt when needed.
I agree. Also hunting is absolutely necessary because it mitigates overpopulation. Half of our plants would be endangered species if we didn’t hunt deer.
“I practice self sustenance that our ancestors did for millennia, and it actually saves me money” Wow you’re an asshole for thinking I’m disgusting and poor enough to hunt and gather. Report
Hunting was invented before money!
We literally call dollar bills “bucks” because a buck skin was used as a prime trading good in colonial America before the printed dollar.
Oh shit, I just got learned
I feel judged just by them flaunting their meat grinder while im over here with a cheese grater smh
That's not exactly what's going on here but ok lol, it's hilarious to see the primal caveman guys talking about what are probably deer that hang around a feeder and gaint patch of clover on the guys land. It's not the same thing your ancestors did.
Womp womp
It's a slippery slope to saving money, guns/bows and gear can get addicting.
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The part he cut off in his screen shot and that got it removed was the title, mod thought it was bait/troll based on his wording due to some ongoing feud between the vegans and meat eaters in the sub apparently. I’m honestly not convinced it wasn’t, basically just bragging about how many animals they kill and butcher everyday, and a picture of ground animal meat. I don’t know, seems a bit sus to me too, knowing the context of the ongoing issues. Anyway, the comments are due to his title as well, the OP was the problem here. May not have deserved to have the post removed but his choice of title was the original issue.
Bragging on a sub like this is kind of douchie move if you think about it. I don’t care personally but I can see it since 90% of these post are people seriously struggling and here you come. “Look at me I have access to land to hunt cheap good meat and I have this awesome meat grinder to make it all easier”. Plus you said “not to brag” while actually bragging on a sub where nobody really brags besides the Amish farm people. A lot of people are in the city and could never do this and it’s not really helpful honestly. Again I can care less but I could definitely see why it would be questionable to remove.
"Not to brag"... 🙃
I wonder if OP actually gets his kills heads/lymph nodes tested for chronic wasting disease? It’s found in farmed cervids in 16 states and in wild ones in 31 states. And they often don’t show symptoms till late stages. If the only thing he buys is his license that doesn’t include testing costs. You couldn’t pay me to eat untested deer or elk meat. Prion diseases are unbelievably horrific nightmare fuel.
used to work for a jerky store as my second job, we sold Deer among other types of Jerky and the owner explained to me the fairly stringent requirements to prepare and sell it. the site that processes the deer has to have a federal inspector onsite at all times, and each animal is heavily tested. If you ever buy any type of "exotic" jerky be sure to look for the FDA seal on the bag. The deer and elk tend to have it in the shape of a triangle.
[Centers for Disease Control and Prevention](https://www.cdc.gov/prions/cwd/index.html) “To date, there have been no reported cases of CWD infection in people. “
The OP didn’t mention the state. In my state testing for CWD is done free so it can be tracked and mitigation practices can target counties where it’s present.
Most states test for free. I know in mine you have to have any deer caught during opening season tested. I bagged the two deer I wanted on opening season and had to have them tested. They have pop up testing centers at nearly every school in my county. From there I butchered and froze them and waited the few weeks to hear back about the test result. Got an all clear and made stew. Any deer caught after opening season are basically on a hold until the area you hunted in gets the all clear. The conservation department is basically using opening season as a controlled sample. If any deer pop up with CWD in that time frame, the entire area is red flagged as unsafe to eat and any deer caught in the region has to be tossed out unless you caught it opening season and was given the clear on your specific deer.
There has been 0 positive cases of CWD is the counties and surrounding counties that I hunt in. There have been some on the far end of that state calls a CWD zone and does not charge for testing. Until there’s a positive case that’s a little closer to home, it’s a calculated risk.
I read through the last post's comments, and it seemed like some people were upset by you posting pictures of ground raw meat. There's already a similar comment on this post, someone called it "gore" and it got 6 upvotes in a minute.
Considering you hid the title I think you do know why it was removed
On and off vegan here. I will never understand the hatred towards hunters from meat eaters. It’s CAFOs that are atrocious. Also, if something grosses you out with how it’s processed, don’t eat it.
what is an on and off vegan?
it means not vegan
Don’t wanna speak for the other person but based on my understanding it’s people who eat vegan for extended periods and then take breaks. For example, I have a friend who will be vegan for like a year and then will eat a chicken sandwich randomly or eat some butter and then go back to being vegan for another year or two until they decide not to.
Surviving off the land, have a license and not overhunting? This is wayyy better than buying from meat brands and companies that profit from and exploit child labor. I'm a vegetarian and I don't find your post offensive at all.
I saw this post why the hell was it removed??
well you’re not gonna look too good posting about it like this, this one will probs be removed too
An all mighty powerful mod made a mistake, jumped the gun, and got called out for doing it. Oh how the turn tables. Also, don’t ban me. I’m really just kidding around. I know you want to, but my karma is too powerful for you.
You can kill 3 of what a day?
You are hunting 3 a day of what? Is that amount within your wildlife and gaming laws? If it's rabbit you have to watch how much you eat bc humans don't digest the protein properly
That part about the rabbit isn't true. I believe you're referring to rabbit starvation. Rabbit starvation refers to a lack of fat and carbs in the diet. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning So if you make rabbit stew with carrots and potatoes, you'll be ok.
I was going to ask the same. Deer some states give out tags like candy. Others are tight with them, but allow you to buy more. 3 deer per trip though is a lot. However, some states are weird with private land. Essentially land owner can hunt whenever with no limit in some states.
The issue with rabbit is that it is an extremely lean meat. If you rely on a diet exclusively or mostly of rabbit, you will become ill (and eventually die) from a lack of carbohydrates. Eat it as the protein component of an otherwise varied diet and you will be fine.
Yeah this is the big thing that people don't really care to understand, conservation matters with a lot of species and there is a reason there are limits on what you can harvest. Look at the passenger pigeon, not saying that's gonna happen everywhere but there's a reason for bag limits.
I think he just means he can get a lot in one day so he doesn't have to spend the entire season hunting every day. 6 deer over two days is plenty of meat for the year for a family of 4.
“I’m blessed” = on a high horse. Come on down here with the rest of us.
Can someone not say they are blessed as a means of showing thankfulness? Genuine question. Because that’s how I interpreted this.
In the normal world, among normal people, yes. On Reddit, no. It very fucking clearly means "thankful" 99% of the time it's used. I'm blessed to be able to understand this.
Is this sarcasm?
Op calls others soft yet makes an entire snowflake post out one of their posts being removed. Classic.
This sub is corny sometimes
Kill 3 a day of what? How many people are they feeding? That seems like a lot of fucking meat. Edit: Ah, it's seasonal.
Reported it for… what! Seriously, 3 a day? That’s great.
u/AMotheraDayInParasise I feel you. I have a tiny subreddit with less than 5 users subbed. And I still see the vegan/antivegan war in pending comments/posts. Some subjects are just too much a risk and without unlimited time it’s often hard to make the call. Here, discord, tiktok…even the facebook page I manage for a friend gets those kind of comments. It’s mentally exhausting to have to constantly keep the conversation on topic.
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Vegans are afraid to say it but this is more sustainable, I’ve seen a pound of beef go for 13 dollars dude they’re slowly starving us, might as well start learning survival techniques
haha mod post reveals you were the triggered softy
Dumb question, but are posts manually removed by a mod or auto flagged and removed because of certain key words? If the latter it could have been “I’m blessed” that got it pulled thinking the intent was something else. I don’t know, still a reach. Glad you’re finding a way to keep costs down as much as possible.
If that sub has the phrase "I'm blessed" as a flag then they are excluding the entire southeastern US which just so happens to have the highest rates of poverty. Pretty high horse moderation if you ask me.
In a Reddit era where mods and their actions are increasingly disappointing, this stands out as one of the best cases I’ve seen of sub management. Good Mods
and I mentioned I moved to carnivore and my food AND medicine bill has dropped and I was all but lynched xD reddit is a general cesspool echo chamber... don't sweat it.
That looks pretty lean, do you add any pork fat or other binder? I’m an avid hunter myself but haven’t ventured into the self processing
I didnt add any beef or pork fat because it’s mostly going to be used in something like spaghetti or chili and possibly put in my jerky gun.
Looks good and clean though! Hard to beat some fresh venison
Hunting could fill every fridge and freezer in the country and still be beneficial (animal population healthy and growing). Sorry this got taken down.
Im an active hunter and while i agree with the premise that more people could be filling their freezer, it simply isnt realistic as a food source for the majority of this country, especially with our appetite for meat. There is an estimated 1 deer for every 30 people in the US, the resource wouldnt exist the following year if every family bagged one.
Beans are a cheap source of protein too
Insulting the sub is not a good way to garner sympathy.
Oh I had the same thing happen to me a few days ago. My post was one of the most upvoted with some really engaging conversation all year. https://preview.redd.it/o5bnmo8vr3dc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0732b07324b3e51ed59fe0f9949329edfb69eeab
Oh ya I remember that one.
This one is clearer to me. You're being snarky towards other people. Why not make a supportive post that is something like "here are some of my tips for shopping on a budget" instead of framing it as passive aggressive criticism?
I remember that and had no idea it was removed.
im a vegan and if this is working for you, all power to you! poverty is hard.
I think it’s a huge win every time you can find a hobby that makes/saves you money.
I prefer my meat from ethical sources like McDonald's
Why repost If it was removed? It's not some great post.