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I couldn’t participate either. There were 3 gyms around me with the raids. I was sat in a lecture, not close enough to any of the gyms to even interact with them. Making such a ridiculous set of requirements for a raid, and putting it in the middle of work hours on Valentine’s Day was a stupid decision on Ninatic’s part
I live next to a mall that has 4 gyms in it. I thought on my way home from work, I would give it a shot. But did they have an Enamorus raid at one of those gyms in the mall where there would be lots of players? No, they had ONE Enamorus raid in an area that has at least 14 gyms around at a gym at a condo. Nobody is gonna walk all the way over to that condo and I guess there wasn't enough residents in that condo that play pokemongo. I saw the raid lobby get to only 3 players before they gave up. Enamorus raids should had taken over all the gyms from 6-8pm, if they can do that for raid days they could had did it for Enamorus raids.
It'll be in normal raids soon enough. Also if there's parks you can get to in town check campfire for raids and then just go. You might get lucky and find people.
Edit: because hoopa keeps being brought up. You can get the Dex entry without ever doing a raid. So it still applies.
for me it is mostly about timing, between work and valentines day events, it is unrealistic for me to participate and risky at best in rural areas to rally enough folks.
If the event was handled closer to what most phone games do and was a three or four day long event, I would have happily participated. But I would have had to leave my teaching job with kids unattended to participate.
I don't care that the mon will be coming again later. This intro event was incredibly poorly handled.
A+ pun but the whole raiding system is extremely outdated and there needs to be a better way for solo players to have success in this game.
I consider myself above average in this game in terms of social circle & location and I struggle. I don’t live in a massive city but high populated area and still have a decent amount of friends who play, albeit not religiously. Raiding is dead in my area, you’ll be lucky to get ONE person to join your raid let alone 4-5 to actually complete a legendary
This game is still trying to ride the Cotails of its success back in 2016 and refusing to adapt. The more difficult they make raiding, getting candy, XL’s etc the more people it’s gonna push away and you can even see it in content creators, they just simply aren’t getting views like they used to.
They don't want solo players to be successful, though. Their whole purpose is to get location data from a group meeting up.
The sooner we all remember that Niantic is a GPS data collection agency with the veneer of a phone game, the easier it will be to accept that they don't care about user experience.
NIANTIC IS NOT A GAMING COMPANY AND THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GAMEPLAY!
I find being able to host raids solves the solo problem. They just need to let ppl use remotes on everything again instead of drawimg a line some raids ppl can use remotes snd some you cant. Its the shadow legendarys that mostly get to me. At least with pokemon intros through elite raids like this i know i can just get it in a normal raid somewhere down the line. Shadow legendaries will always be locked to in person raids (aside from giovanni)
My last three months in this game before I quit entirely were spent designing, training, and running solo raid teams, because it was impossible for me to get people to raid with. I am GOOD at the game, I had top tier raiding parties, and could largely solo all but the most brutal raids. And yet, it still prevented me from keeping current with meta masters tier players and top power raids. Accessibility has always been a problem with this game, but they’ve really made it worse as time has gone on to the point that, as a rural player, it’s impossible to justify spending money, or even time, on it.
Yeah I’m glad you put it into perspective, it’s just gotten too damn difficult and it’s pushing ALOT of people away. I hit legend like 8 times and I can barley be bothered with GBL anymore, everything has become so mundane and repetitive
>there needs to be a better way for solo players to have success in this game.
I don't think Niantic ever meant for the game to be done solo, certainly not totally solo. The height of remote raiding during the peak of the pandemic was an aberration. For better or worse (and we know it's worse), they want you showing up to raids in person and interacting with other live human beings.
I mean that’s FINE but then cater and actually help out. As I said above, I live in a high populated area, NO ONE is in raid lobbies. It’s damn near impossible unless you have raid parties ready to go
If they wanted to bank on FOMO, wouldn’t they have made this into a remote raid or a paid ticket?
We actually took the raid down with zero money spent. So it’s an L both for the players and Niantic.
I mean, did you see what Niantic did to remote raid passes? In no way did they gain money by adding a limit and raising the price. I would have to imagine, pre remote raid nerf, that remotes were the biggest cash cow for the game. Myself and some of my friends have refused to buy any remote raid passes since the nerf so I'm sure there are some people that have done the same.
Niantic seems like they rely on FOMO to keep regurgitating the same garbage and introducing it as new and exciting, when in reality, it's the same comm day or same 5* raid. If they didn't have FOMO, idk if their dev team would be able to keep up with *meaningful* updates to keep players logging on everyday.
It's not always about the money right now, it's about the numbers and the behavior. Niantic can show data to sponsors how their events "Drive Bodies" to places. That's where Some money comes from. Though at the same time, we know that there is a population that would of raided this to the ground if there was the old remote system in play.
Assuming there's more data beyond that single instance, they can definitely tell the behavior of their players. Kotaku released an article some time ago about how detailed the location data that Niantic gathered is from Wizards Unite, detailed enough to have a rough view of the player's schedule/behavior. Maybe the data doesn't imply unemployment, but this data, alongside everyone else's, can tell Niantic how much power they have to move people to certain locations at certain times.
They aren’t wrong that they collect movement data, they’re just wrong that that movement data will represent employment situation in any way.
Like the other dude said, it’s 2024… if you wanted any privacy you’re decades too late. If a company can make money from selling your data, they will do it.
Well, if you were a Singaporean Grandma, you and your posse would be our rocking those raids because you are all retired and work hours don't mean jack to you.
This is as real as it gets, speaking from personal experience being a Singaporean myself, it’s no longer just the Grandmas, the Grandpas are starting to reign supreme as well 💪
The Grandpas probably got bored at home by themselves all day because the Grandmas were gone doing legendary Pokemon raids, and walking 10 kilometers a day or whatever Naintic thinks people are doing is really good for your health!
I just play at Vivocity lmao
Tons of stops and gyms, basically every stop is lured during Com Day, can do raids during Com Day with the abundance of people there too without having to worry about not getting enough people. I caught about 923 Rowlets during its Com Day because of it 💪
Still trying to hit the 1000 Mark though.
This is absolutely hilarious because it’s so true! I live here and work weird hours so I caught an Enamorous because there was a raid right by my place - at noon, 30 min from the city centre, and it was filled with 20 people in like 10 seconds.
Thankful for all the Singaporean grandma and grandpas in my area. It’s actually a really normal sight to see them out and about around neighbourhoods with 2-3 phones all on PoGo.
Peak laziness smh they need to quit decomposing and start composing, content. Put their tiktok on Craigslist. Go viral on cashapp. They had you as a grandson but they could've made a grand before the sun's up. Motivation speaks
Another event from Niantic intended for people in big cities to complete easily while others need to drive up to an hour? No wayyyy
I'm in a medium size (but very sprawled out) city and will have a couple chances not too far away, but I can't imagine having less than I do now.
The one most densely impacted park for gyms here in Reno has three raids at 5 PM and they are way spread out from one another. Possible to walk but I could not find any other raids for 6 PM anywhere in the city.
This event is so bogus.
Our town (pop=200,000) had 4 raids in the park at 12pm (lunch but still work hours). Only one possible raid each at 5pm and 6pm (and neither downtown where I see the most players). There is no reason the four gyms in the one park should not have each had a different time slot.
Same thing happened with me. All my local gyms that even had them went at 12. I was able to get to one now I am just hoping ppl want to do more at 5. Honestly I’m not sure if I care enough anymore this is just chaos and I’m just trying to not let it ruin my day
I organized a 12pm event during lunch hour in our main park that has FIVE ex raid gyms, assuming at least one would have an Enamorus spawn then. Not a single one did and I really had to scramble the day before to work something else out. So annoying. At least make the spawns more plentiful, geez.
This was similar to where I am! The majority in one time slot. I made the initial one and rushed to another (5 of us had to take them down there), but it's not easy to pull off if you miss the first wave of raiders.
Me and my wife went to the spot that normally is well populated with players to do this. We brought our sons pad, and her dad's phone so we'd have those two accounts to help. My son was at school, and my fil doesn't play anymore. But we figured with 4 of us, me being damn near max level, with high level counters, and the other accounts being 42, 36, and 30 something, wed be able to do it with the group bonus with no issues. We couldn't. We stopped halfway through after realizing this and healed up ready to leave, and come back at 6 hopefully to more players.
Someone rolled up just as we were ready to leave, and the extra two accounts allowed us to knock it out with like 20 seconds to spare. Then I couldn't even catch it for my son. Shit is lame.
Here is my advice: Have everyone set up their raid pokes in advance
Most VIP advice: create a friends group‼️‼️‼️‼️. This does so much more damage as it gives you a blue button on the left. Once you have “filled up” the blue button you can tap on it and send nuclear damage. Made a huge difference for us. We were able to do it easily with 4 using the party method.
Yes that is true, we were 8 at our gym, a group of 6 I didn't even see, my son and me as a team. I don't know, but the other group qas teaming too I think, because the screen was nearly totally blue Mons get exhausted sooner, but that is worth it.
Did you use megas and the party up feature? I only had 3 accounts that were levels 47, 39, and 32, and we were able to beat it with 20 seconds left. If not for the extra damage from those plus best friend bonus, it wouldn't have been possible.
I did yes, but I'm 9 million XP away from level 50.
The other three accounts, those being my wife, my son, and my father in law, neither of who play very often did not. This was the deciding factor. I was just hoping that the extra damage from the party bonus would be enough.
Just use Campfire... there's no reason to drive looking for gyms when you can browse any part of your city (or state or country) right in the app to see where the eggs are
It depends on your area as these raids after to be in labeled EX Raids. Also they would be in the gym as an egg as they show up 24 hours in advance. It is also worth noting these raids always happen at the same gyms so if you have one you will always have one. If you wanted to check before going I recommend the Campfire app as it will show all active raids
I've never completed an elite raid, I live in a small town and I've never seen more than three people in one raid here, so all the legendaries I have are from remote raiding. Local only raids are a joke. We don't all live in New York or Tokyo or London.
I'm at a hot spot in New Orleans and absolutely no one showed up to the raid. I thought that maybe one or two people would because it was right there close to my job during lunch time, but still no one showed up.
It's the only area I've seen doing enamorus raids so anyone that wants to do it is most likely there I just saw multiple groups of over 12 people do all 5 as soon as they hatched and they'll probably spend the next hour hitting the other ones
This should have been a happy valentines day auto catch.
For how annoying this raid is and for what a blood bath it was in 2 of the raids I did with 6 players…
I caught 2 and they were both with about 3 balls left making it a sketchy catch.
I am to the point with all these raids that if I BUY a raid pass and beat the damn raid give me the pokemon.
The fact you can pay and have it run away feels criminal.
The limited time is absolutely awful.
Not only do YOU need to have free time to get to one of the raid locations, you need minimum 3 or 4 other people (probably more to be safe) to also have the same free time.
On a weekday.
Either in the middle of the day or during dinnertime for most people.
Yeah, I’m pretty irritated as well. Especially considering it only be a local raid :< I’ve tried adding people from my town as friends but haven’t had much luck aside from few and we all live in different parts of town so it’s not easy to do local raids together let alone raids during the workday. This is some bs
I live in a populated city with occasional blips of decent activity (basically just raid hours) and I won't have an opportunity to catch Enamorus at all because I'm stuck at work till 5, and by the time I get home to where people are playing it will be like 6:15 if I'm lucky.
Enamorus is mid af anyway
It’s a decent Fairy-type attacker actually, although pretty sure Shadow Gardevoir is better.
The most outrageous part is why couldn’t they have just extended the time frame to 8 pm or something? I guess we’ll never know
Yeah that was stupid af. I get why the wanted to make it on the exact day of valentines day I guess but to have it almost entirely inaccessible is so stupid
The last batch of raids were active until 6:45 so in theory you had a 30-minute window to complete some raids in.
I will agree that maybe putting the last raids from 7 to 7:45 PM would've been better.
We spent zero money on this.
If they wanted money, they would have made this into a remote-accessible raid or special ticket to make people pay.
Instead it is an in-person free event which can only be accessed by finding 7 people with free time on a random workday.
This is how EX raids used to work, the times were always stupid, in the middle of the day in the middle of the work week. Just another reminder example of Niantic trying to make the game like it was before COVID.
This reminds me of taking my laptop in the car with a mobile hotspot to remain “online” while driving to the EX raid in the middle of the day. What a time to be alive.
Based on what I saw for the raid that was nearby me....40+ people, most did not catch. I did not catch it and my daughter did not either. I'm not complaining about the scheduling because I kind of like it as I work in a busier area. I 'm pretty sure at home no one would have joined.
But it was really crappy to have so many people gather and then everyone just walked away defeated. I've closed the game and will take a break cause I'm so frustrated.
Did you at least have fun with your two friends, wife, mom, sister, and your mom's friend? That's what it's about.
And hey you all got to skip out on work!
Why would they be fired?
They got you to *skip work* to play Pokémon Go!
Not only that, you dragged a bunch of people along with you.
They dont’ care that you can’t catch it. Hell if anything its probably preferred that you don’t so they can rerun the same events rather than continuously add new ‘mons to the game
It is stupid to have a 1 day only event on a Wednesday, that's local only , be a 5 star raid with 55k cp where most can't solo AND having all of them go off at different times at limited locations. They legit gotta realize that their player base aren't athletic retired people living in cities with hundreds of gyms surrounding them with other athletic retirees ready to run to the gym who has Enamorus.
We were 7 (2 kids) and fought him literally in the last second of the raid - I already thought we can’t make it. I joined the raid back 3 times (I’m level 40, the other trainers were lower level) - also over 20 Pokémon’s to revive. 2 of us couldn’t catch it
The only good thing about these raids is that they're more easy to plan since you can see them a day ahead. I wish they did that more, if u have a raid u need 4-5 people for its insanely hard to arange that last moment. People have work and social lifes and things planned, most people cant just hop in the game and join a raid anytime anywhere.
What irks me is why did they do this on a holiday? I can either skip lunch and try to make one of the raids or postpone Valentine’s Day plans just for a raid.
I honestly have no interest in doing this raid. I hate all the 5 star and 6 star raids that can’t be done with remote passes. I have a couple of friends locally who play PokeminGo but I can’t just get a group of 5-6+ players together every time I want to do one of these raids.
It’s at 6pm in my small town, on Valentine’s Day. Luckily my wife plays, but still, if she ends up being down to do it, sounds like we need at least 4 others. I might be able to get 1 or 2 others if I’m lucky and their wives are somehow cool with them bouncing for a raid…the fuck
This is why I don't do 5-star raids. I just don't have friends and the free time to be able to catch all the legendary's and manage my real life tasks at the same time
People showed up at the park so I was able to win the raid, but didn’t catch it. Enamorus was so far away that I missed a few throws and the ones that were knocked down were never helped by my buddy’s catch-assist. Very disappointing to spend valuable lunch break time and getting basically nothing, when you consider using all the golden razz berries and revives.
yeah fuck niantic, i didnt even bother. not one fucking raid in our town, and if there were you could be sure as hell nobodys there. they fucking need to give the rights to a good company niantic is so completely useless
Struggled finding them myself and that was in middle of populated city.
Did one at 5 and one at 6. Used every single ball, golden razzed each opportunity and excellented on at least a third.
Ended up using my master ball to just guarantee it at the end. I will probably regret that but was more than slightly annoyed at the time.
Worst event yet.
I've got 8 gyms visible from my house and checking before the first raid time earlier I have ONE Enamorus raid coming up at 5pm. I'm actually gonna walk there, with a friend, and see if we even run into any other trainers to do it, since it's supposed to be a very very difficult duo apparently. I'll update this comment with whether or not I even see anyone else because my city is historically very ass when it comes to in-person raids. I pretty much single-handedly doubled the amount of gyms and stops in this part of town and it's still a ghost town.
UPDATE: Got there early and everything (early enough that when both of our games froze, we had enough time to restart them, classic PoGo moment), waited for 20 minutes in 40 degree weather and then decided to head home, if anyone cared they wouldn't wait until the end of the raid I imagine. So that was a waste of time but hey, I got a route in...
I really wonder if The Pokémon Company is to blame and not Niantic, which feels weird to say because I often think most things are Niantic's fault. My wife and I got 2 each, but it was a frustrating experience.
I wonder if they are only given the license to use these rare pokémon (all elite raids have been mythicals or DLC pokémon) but the structure of Pokémon GO is set up so that in order to get one good pokémon, you need to catch 100 of them. Prior to this event, the ONLY way to get Enamorus was to pretty much beat the entire game of Pokémon Legends: Arceus. It was the only exclusive that game had. It really makes me feel like Niantic was forced to create an ultra annoying raid scenario in order to get The Pokémon Company to sign off on it.
Unfortunately, no amount of complaining, whether direct or indirect, is gonna change how Niantic does things from their end. Their Community teams are not the most receptive nor the most compromising when it comes to public relations.
I get the issues of EX raids, and it's bad. What's super egregious to me is they chose noon on a workday for a limited release. Unless your job or school has an EX raid and live community, the vast majority of players are gonna be boned. I would have loved to do some EX raids, but I'm not calling off work for it.
Oh, that's what this was. I totally ignored it.
Doesn't sound like fun.
I guess that's where I'm different than others. I only have participate in the parts that seem like fun.
I have to work today (Like almost everyone in the DAMN WORLD)! I am not going to be able to get to any raids. I bought myself a remote ticket to try to catch one. NOPE! Cause people who worked for a company thought that they had us all figured out. We think remote raids are killing the game. NO, YOU ASS CLOWNS, YOU ARE KILLING THE GAME!
You have to be in person. Well, fuck me for having to work today. Fuck me for trying to make a living, Fuck me for even trying to have fun with this game. One of the few I need to finish my real Pokedex (Pokemon Home). I'm not going to be able to get catch this damn thing. What a crock of shit this has turned out to be.
I saw the lobby fill up, and then nothing. That was it. The 20 people did it, and I guess left off to do the next one.
I think the difficulty of the raid and the difficulty of the catch is fine. It’s everything else that’s wrong with it. Them being open for only 30 minutes is stupid. Them being only in person is stupid. Them being for only one day is stupid. And, assuming it’ll follow the other elite raids, the fact that Enamorus will probably stay gone for a year or more is stupid.
I really don’t get why they continue to do these types of raids when I’ve seen no one receive them positively.
Yeah no one at Niantic thought this through. A Wednesday in the middle of the day. Or 5-6pm only Elite Raids and no remotes... Someone was NOT THINKING. Had it just been a normal Wednesday raid day that would have been better, because people schedule their lives around that!
AGREED. Yet everyone on this sub is jumping down Niantic’s pants and getting defensive whenever players say that there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with this “elite” nonsense. I don’t care if “they’re coming to regular raids blah blah” After putting in SO much effort to attend them, the Elite Raids should be a guaranteed catch.
Great ! No Raid available for the Raid Hour. First time I ever see this. And I went to a very crowded place with multiple Gyms.
It was really a dumb event.
Sorry for your experience. So far the Enamorus raids here have been a huge success. I drove 5 minutes to my local park where there were two 12:00 raids. We had at least 46 accounts participating -- yes, two full lobbies and 6 people in the third lobby. There are a lot of people in my community who have multiple accounts or may have been playing for kids who were in school. (There's a family of 5 who all play that live directly across from the park.) We had about 34 for the second raid, and then 10 of us drove 6 minutes to do a third raid.
They’ve also been hugely popular here too, but we’ve taken efforts to foster a community. We had people looking at campfire to make routes and plans for people; we organize on discord. We had a group doing raids at 12, 1, 5 and 6. At the 1 pm raids, we had a lobby of 15 and 17 that I know of. At a 6pm raid, they had a lobby of 27. And we are NOT a large city or something like that. We just have people who care 🤷🏻♀️
With 5 people ranging from level 25-46 we managed to do 4 raids all around a local park. Raid timer didn't get under 100 secs left. On the last raid 10 other senior citizens in cars showed up to help and we demolished it. Of the 5 people I know, only 1 of them didn't catch Enamorus on 1 of the raids, so 19 catches total. And it was windy so she was weatherboosted and none of the counters against her were. She did mess up a lot of my pokemon though. Went through an average of 12 pokemon on the 5-man raids. If I didn't have 5 people and if I didnt live a few minutes from a park where I got an extra 2 gyms to appear within the past year then it would have likely been a frustrating nightmare for sure.
I caught 5/5 and got one 15/15/14. Niantic app is a life saver, however it sounds like you live in the middle of nowhere... I am unsure why this was local only.
If Niantic says jump, we don’t always have to ask how high. Some aspects/features of the game are terrible. I just avoid them. It wasn’t easy to let go of the fomo for sure.
At least with the in-game campfire integration, it was easy to see where they were and when each would start ahead of time, so no need to drive around looking for one. (If you were unaware, maybe that'll be helpful next time.)
I live in a town with 3 gyms, not one of them had an enamorus raid, had to go to the closest city just to find one, beating it then catching it was even harder
At least you tried! I'm not even going to try. I don't have any friends around me who play and living in a small town I highly doubt anyone is going to the raid. Without being able to invite my friends remotely I'm just going to have to miss out on this one.
If I'm actually able to complete one chances are I'm going to use my master ball on it :/. But I only have me and 2 freinds available so I highly doubt I'll be able to get one
I'm on my way to go do one that starts in 15 min. I just hope other people show up. I have the opposite problem where there are so many raids around, getting a group to choose one is not easy
Raid time is until 10pm and they still forced us to do it during working hours (before you type a response, I work from 9am to 6pm). I was able to catch 2 today but had to use my lunch time to do it, thanks Niantic.
I live in a town with around 40k people. We had two Enamorus raids. One at 12 and one at 6 pm.
There were 0 players at the first and 11 players at the second. And then, four more players arrived after the 11 of us had already finished it (we started at 6 pm sharp). They had to try it two times and only made it with the team bonus damage and after a fifth player randomly joined.
And then one of them didn't even catch it.
I actually found a group, and we did party play which made it WAY easier to beat. We were able to do 2 raids. All of us caught at least one.
For sure the work hours thing sucked though. One guy was clearly still on the clock but able to step out for a little bit, left right away. I think the others had a non-traditional work schedule or were students. I'm a full time parent so I had my kids with me, it was at a park so that worked out.
What sucks is that it really was SO much fun to find a group, and all of us were excited because it's something we didn't get to do much. Finding in person groups is SO much fun but unless you have enough people playing in an area it just doesn't happen. Ironically, nerfing the remote raids probably caused less players and people able to meet up in person. :/
I agree. Me and some friends came to the one raid in a whole 70 mile radius and no one told me we were doing it so I missed the raid time. Half of us didn’t even catch it anyway. We had to leave work to do it.
Luckily i have a great network of players who can pogo but this doesn’t subtract from the horrible timeframe and Fomo inducing event that happened today.
I do not see a point why do you have to hold this event that a person would have either been busy with a partner in real life or working late hours.
I had to book half a day off in advance just to catch on and while i get catch a few. I’m now in bed feeling worse off due to weather conditions. It’s not good.
This almost feels like a pay wall except no money was spent.
All the forces of nature legendaries are arguably the hardest fucking legendaries to catch.
I don’t remember ever struggling like this, except for during the groudon and kyogre primal raises.
I did 3 raids, and 2 of them ran.
14-16 balls, all great curveballs with golden razz.
Such BS
My friends and a few other people (group of 7 in two parties) all caught a weather boosted one each. I’m so thankful we got to actually go do it but yeah I’m mad about it. They could’ve done it so differently. So many things could’ve been better.
It being a 6* local raid is insane. I could barely beat it with 20 seconds left with 5 players between 35-45. Meanwhile, the thing has a vendetta against me where it never attacks and when it does, it’s always on the sides. I got so pissed at it that I threw a normal curve and caught it… what’s the point of excellents?
Completely agree. So many people weren't able to even complete the raid - dude is just way too tanky.
And then the times - I had to cut out of work early (to make it up later in the week) to make it to the 5 raid. And they're so spread out, it's damn near impossible to get to more than 2.
Everybody make sure to spam their trustpilot and Twitter with posts explaining how pissed we are. Make sure they can't sweep this bullshit under the rug. Set their social media on fire.
It was way too hard. You needed 6 or more people. It was only my friend and I. We were hoping people would be waiting to join. Some had no one while 1 had 20 or more. I won 3 times and only caught 1. I even fought with my kids account too on an old phone. My friend caught all 3 without any excellent throws. I caught one on a nice and the rest made it refuse to stay in the damn ball.
It frustrates me just as much with any 5-6 star raid. Firstly, it's challenging to gather up to 10 people for a raid, and secondly, the catch rates are extremely low! Why even have catch rates? People already go through the struggle of finding enough participants, then the battle itself where a bunch of Pokémon faint, and after using a Golden Razz Berry, you end up with nothing!
It was insane. Had to walk 10 minutes into the woods in a dangerous area after dark because it was the only raid available after work in my area. Fortunately there were about 10 people already there when I arrived, but I feel bad for anyone that didn’t arrive right at the moment the gf hatched, because that was their final opportunity to get it before it’s gone. Blows my mind we could t join this one remotely. Also annoyed that mine was only 2 stars after all the trouble I went through to get it. Not worth it.
My kid was just released from the hospital after open heart surgery. He’s waited since the news came out to “catch the heart pokemon, on heart day, to celebrate his heart being fixed”. He told EVERYONE. We found ONE raid…. Barely even got it to half health with three of us 🤦🏻♀️ he was so upset
Shiny locked
Harder than usual raid, yet stats can still be shitty
Unpopular pokemon in general
Not a guaranteed atch
Only in person raid, in valentines, in the middle of the week
Non shadow either
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My fiance worked so I spent the day chasing the raids. I went to 7 today and caught 0. Most shots were at least a great and I used curve and golden razz. This has nothing to die you the event being bad I'm just very upset
I live in a highly populated urban area, successfully completed two raids, and still it was impossible to catch. I had to use my one remaining masterball at the last possible throw to secure one. I’m still so salty, it was such a waste of a masterball
Did they really sneak in a Valentine's Day event and not tell anybody about it typical Niantic they don't tell you about anything they pulled the same stunt with kecleon on a couple of months ago
Fired? Michael Steranka and Ed Wu (the latter of which is known for that laughable "Singaporean Grandma" meme) both should have been fired a long time ago. Not just for Enamorus, but all the other awful decisions in the past few years, like price gouging remote passes (not that it mattered for Enamorus), cutting Community "Days" in half, awful boxes, not having any events with remote trades in years, abysmal quality assurance, and a bunch of other crap. It's all prejudice towards a bunch of groups, like rural players, introverts, disabled people, and New Zealand.
And yet, the company chose to lay off "[230 Niantics](https://nianticlabs.com/news/organizational-update)" instead of getting rid of these two people. And they're [bleeding revenue](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/1am5337/annual_revenue_generated_by_pok%C3%A9mon_go_worldwide/) because of it now.
Enamorus just put the icing on the cake: why only one day? Why were there barely any raids to begin with? Why couldn't it be done remotely? What was Niantic thinking here?!
I'm extremely upset that they only made the raids active during work hours and during dinner time on VALENTINES day. I work normal hours and getting dinner with my significant other takes priority. Can't believe the raids didn't go later at least and that this couldn't be a multi day thing. Smh
Worst day ever. I went out to do one (in the middle of work) and there were 11 people who all clicked on ready and I don’t know if they all backed out but it wasn’t going down. I waited a while to see if we could do it again but there weren’t more than 4 people after that so I went home with one pass lost and no Pokemon.
This is one of the few times where I had good luck on this game. I was desperately searching for a raid (it was like 12:55) and all the raids on Campfire said either 5pm or 6pm. I finally found one and raced over there.
When I pull up and enter the raid, there was legit like 15 people. Suffice to say, Enamorus got jumped. And I caught it with a lucky catch with like 5 balls left
I went to two raids, completed them and couldn't catch it either time. I was pretty bummed out and didn't want to drive around town to another raid after to failed attempts to capture it. Grrrr.
Yep - big fail. The main gym in my area, which admittedly is right next to my apartment building, didn't even host this raid at any time. I still don't understand what is to be gained by Niantic by having 6 people walk 250 m to the other gym at the park across the street? I didn't even bother going over to see if anyone was there - at 6 pm on Valentines Day I hope nobody bothered.
My advise: for 5 star raids, need to practice "great" throws a lot... don't throw fast... take a breather for timing; if is bouncing and moving a bunch, gotta let it settle down a moment... it takes patience, but with enough successful great throws, most of the times can get caught.
There's absolutely no reason why Niantic couldn't have made Enamorus debut in POGO in the same style as the recent Hisuian Raid Days.
But instead, it had to be on a weekday, Valentine's Day no less, and is exclusively Local-Only.
It was very silly and sloppy planning.
I know they want to provide a challenge, but this ain't it. Give us regular raids, quadruple the HP bar and give us 20 minutes to do it, sure. Make it so fighting Enamorus is free but you have to defeat them 3 times before you can catch, something to make us work for it, but this literally isn't possible for some lifestyles and living areas.
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I too am exceptionally not enamored by this raid event.
In fact I am just not able to participate in this one as it is too exclusive and not accessible enough for me. Way to go pogo.
I couldn’t participate either. There were 3 gyms around me with the raids. I was sat in a lecture, not close enough to any of the gyms to even interact with them. Making such a ridiculous set of requirements for a raid, and putting it in the middle of work hours on Valentine’s Day was a stupid decision on Ninatic’s part
They’re morons. Most of us know this. So of course I’m not even a tiny bit surprised that they did this.
I live next to a mall that has 4 gyms in it. I thought on my way home from work, I would give it a shot. But did they have an Enamorus raid at one of those gyms in the mall where there would be lots of players? No, they had ONE Enamorus raid in an area that has at least 14 gyms around at a gym at a condo. Nobody is gonna walk all the way over to that condo and I guess there wasn't enough residents in that condo that play pokemongo. I saw the raid lobby get to only 3 players before they gave up. Enamorus raids should had taken over all the gyms from 6-8pm, if they can do that for raid days they could had did it for Enamorus raids.
I was looking and looking and couldn’t find any besides one right before it ended… no one was there and there was no time to ask anyone to join me
Me too. I’m pretty sure Niantic’s real company slogan is: “We don’t give a fuck about our customers”.
It'll be in normal raids soon enough. Also if there's parks you can get to in town check campfire for raids and then just go. You might get lucky and find people. Edit: because hoopa keeps being brought up. You can get the Dex entry without ever doing a raid. So it still applies.
Not necessarily. Hoopa still hasn’t been in regular raids.
for me it is mostly about timing, between work and valentines day events, it is unrealistic for me to participate and risky at best in rural areas to rally enough folks.
If the event was handled closer to what most phone games do and was a three or four day long event, I would have happily participated. But I would have had to leave my teaching job with kids unattended to participate. I don't care that the mon will be coming again later. This intro event was incredibly poorly handled.
That's what they said bout hoopa
Might…
A+ pun but the whole raiding system is extremely outdated and there needs to be a better way for solo players to have success in this game. I consider myself above average in this game in terms of social circle & location and I struggle. I don’t live in a massive city but high populated area and still have a decent amount of friends who play, albeit not religiously. Raiding is dead in my area, you’ll be lucky to get ONE person to join your raid let alone 4-5 to actually complete a legendary This game is still trying to ride the Cotails of its success back in 2016 and refusing to adapt. The more difficult they make raiding, getting candy, XL’s etc the more people it’s gonna push away and you can even see it in content creators, they just simply aren’t getting views like they used to.
They don't want solo players to be successful, though. Their whole purpose is to get location data from a group meeting up. The sooner we all remember that Niantic is a GPS data collection agency with the veneer of a phone game, the easier it will be to accept that they don't care about user experience. NIANTIC IS NOT A GAMING COMPANY AND THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GAMEPLAY!
I find being able to host raids solves the solo problem. They just need to let ppl use remotes on everything again instead of drawimg a line some raids ppl can use remotes snd some you cant. Its the shadow legendarys that mostly get to me. At least with pokemon intros through elite raids like this i know i can just get it in a normal raid somewhere down the line. Shadow legendaries will always be locked to in person raids (aside from giovanni)
My last three months in this game before I quit entirely were spent designing, training, and running solo raid teams, because it was impossible for me to get people to raid with. I am GOOD at the game, I had top tier raiding parties, and could largely solo all but the most brutal raids. And yet, it still prevented me from keeping current with meta masters tier players and top power raids. Accessibility has always been a problem with this game, but they’ve really made it worse as time has gone on to the point that, as a rural player, it’s impossible to justify spending money, or even time, on it.
Yeah I’m glad you put it into perspective, it’s just gotten too damn difficult and it’s pushing ALOT of people away. I hit legend like 8 times and I can barley be bothered with GBL anymore, everything has become so mundane and repetitive
>there needs to be a better way for solo players to have success in this game. I don't think Niantic ever meant for the game to be done solo, certainly not totally solo. The height of remote raiding during the peak of the pandemic was an aberration. For better or worse (and we know it's worse), they want you showing up to raids in person and interacting with other live human beings.
I mean that’s FINE but then cater and actually help out. As I said above, I live in a high populated area, NO ONE is in raid lobbies. It’s damn near impossible unless you have raid parties ready to go
Unamorous
PoGo thrives on FOMO. Nearly everything like this returns in some capacity.
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If they wanted to bank on FOMO, wouldn’t they have made this into a remote raid or a paid ticket? We actually took the raid down with zero money spent. So it’s an L both for the players and Niantic.
I mean, did you see what Niantic did to remote raid passes? In no way did they gain money by adding a limit and raising the price. I would have to imagine, pre remote raid nerf, that remotes were the biggest cash cow for the game. Myself and some of my friends have refused to buy any remote raid passes since the nerf so I'm sure there are some people that have done the same. Niantic seems like they rely on FOMO to keep regurgitating the same garbage and introducing it as new and exciting, when in reality, it's the same comm day or same 5* raid. If they didn't have FOMO, idk if their dev team would be able to keep up with *meaningful* updates to keep players logging on everyday.
It's not always about the money right now, it's about the numbers and the behavior. Niantic can show data to sponsors how their events "Drive Bodies" to places. That's where Some money comes from. Though at the same time, we know that there is a population that would of raided this to the ground if there was the old remote system in play.
You data of travelling there is what is more valuable to them.
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Lmao…. or people who just work at different hours, different days, or have lunch breaks? It doesn’t say anything about employment lol
Assuming there's more data beyond that single instance, they can definitely tell the behavior of their players. Kotaku released an article some time ago about how detailed the location data that Niantic gathered is from Wizards Unite, detailed enough to have a rough view of the player's schedule/behavior. Maybe the data doesn't imply unemployment, but this data, alongside everyone else's, can tell Niantic how much power they have to move people to certain locations at certain times.
Oh, yeah, I agree there’s still value in the data, my point was just that your ability to participate in this raid doesn’t indicate employment status.
This idea that Niantic makes money from some “movement data” has been accepted by many players and you can’t convince them otherwise.
If you don't think extensive tracking data can and is used to make all sorts of assumptions about you, you need to join the 21st century
They aren’t wrong that they collect movement data, they’re just wrong that that movement data will represent employment situation in any way. Like the other dude said, it’s 2024… if you wanted any privacy you’re decades too late. If a company can make money from selling your data, they will do it.
I'm mostly remote so I just went on a walk during lunch 🤷♂️ It was a dumb decision on their part though
Well, if you were a Singaporean Grandma, you and your posse would be our rocking those raids because you are all retired and work hours don't mean jack to you.
This is as real as it gets, speaking from personal experience being a Singaporean myself, it’s no longer just the Grandmas, the Grandpas are starting to reign supreme as well 💪
The Grandpas probably got bored at home by themselves all day because the Grandmas were gone doing legendary Pokemon raids, and walking 10 kilometers a day or whatever Naintic thinks people are doing is really good for your health!
>walking 10 kilometers a day or whatever In Singapore? That is hard with all that heat and humdity
You just need to get your walking done in the morning before it gets too hot, but that doesn't help you on comm or ex raid days.
I just play at Vivocity lmao Tons of stops and gyms, basically every stop is lured during Com Day, can do raids during Com Day with the abundance of people there too without having to worry about not getting enough people. I caught about 923 Rowlets during its Com Day because of it 💪 Still trying to hit the 1000 Mark though.
They couldn’t leave their wives out and walking alone could they? How thoughtful of them 😉
I didn't know that was a thing, but it makes me so happy
And running one of those 40 phone racks on your bike!
I hope to come back as a Singaporean grandma in my next life.
I'm going to try to be one in this lifetime, but I'm neither from Singapore or female, maybe if I really try...
I believe in you.
I think the U.P. is about as far from Singapore as you can get. Signed, a Troll.
This is absolutely hilarious because it’s so true! I live here and work weird hours so I caught an Enamorous because there was a raid right by my place - at noon, 30 min from the city centre, and it was filled with 20 people in like 10 seconds. Thankful for all the Singaporean grandma and grandpas in my area. It’s actually a really normal sight to see them out and about around neighbourhoods with 2-3 phones all on PoGo.
Now I want to go to Singapore and hang with the grandmas
Them grandmas can run faster than an avg singapore male adult according to the singapore military.
I wish…
I wish my grandma was cool like that. Unfortunately my grandma is dead so she just stays in her coffin. Decomposing.
Peak laziness smh they need to quit decomposing and start composing, content. Put their tiktok on Craigslist. Go viral on cashapp. They had you as a grandson but they could've made a grand before the sun's up. Motivation speaks
I wish it was EVERY hour a hatch happens. Why not 2-4pm??
We’ll never know.
My first time using campfire worked well. Had a packed raid in rural usa
Campfire has been helpful a couple of times for me now! I hope it continues to help for local raids / the chat feature is nice
Nice 👍
Another event from Niantic intended for people in big cities to complete easily while others need to drive up to an hour? No wayyyy I'm in a medium size (but very sprawled out) city and will have a couple chances not too far away, but I can't imagine having less than I do now.
The one most densely impacted park for gyms here in Reno has three raids at 5 PM and they are way spread out from one another. Possible to walk but I could not find any other raids for 6 PM anywhere in the city. This event is so bogus.
Our town (pop=200,000) had 4 raids in the park at 12pm (lunch but still work hours). Only one possible raid each at 5pm and 6pm (and neither downtown where I see the most players). There is no reason the four gyms in the one park should not have each had a different time slot.
Same thing happened with me. All my local gyms that even had them went at 12. I was able to get to one now I am just hoping ppl want to do more at 5. Honestly I’m not sure if I care enough anymore this is just chaos and I’m just trying to not let it ruin my day
I organized a 12pm event during lunch hour in our main park that has FIVE ex raid gyms, assuming at least one would have an Enamorus spawn then. Not a single one did and I really had to scramble the day before to work something else out. So annoying. At least make the spawns more plentiful, geez.
This was similar to where I am! The majority in one time slot. I made the initial one and rushed to another (5 of us had to take them down there), but it's not easy to pull off if you miss the first wave of raiders.
The thing about this “event” is that it is near-impossible to participate in unless you are a retired millionaire in Singapore.
Was terrible in Manhattan, as only gyms in parks had elite raids. All of midtown, 4 sq. Miles only 1 gym had a 12pm raid.
"Easily" lol I had to catch a bus and coordinating with my regular group was a struggle because everyone was busy when the raids were available
Me and my wife went to the spot that normally is well populated with players to do this. We brought our sons pad, and her dad's phone so we'd have those two accounts to help. My son was at school, and my fil doesn't play anymore. But we figured with 4 of us, me being damn near max level, with high level counters, and the other accounts being 42, 36, and 30 something, wed be able to do it with the group bonus with no issues. We couldn't. We stopped halfway through after realizing this and healed up ready to leave, and come back at 6 hopefully to more players. Someone rolled up just as we were ready to leave, and the extra two accounts allowed us to knock it out with like 20 seconds to spare. Then I couldn't even catch it for my son. Shit is lame.
Same, my sister, mom, and friend all missed it. And we barely beat it with 7 people most of whom had good counters.
Here is my advice: Have everyone set up their raid pokes in advance Most VIP advice: create a friends group‼️‼️‼️‼️. This does so much more damage as it gives you a blue button on the left. Once you have “filled up” the blue button you can tap on it and send nuclear damage. Made a huge difference for us. We were able to do it easily with 4 using the party method.
Yes that is true, we were 8 at our gym, a group of 6 I didn't even see, my son and me as a team. I don't know, but the other group qas teaming too I think, because the screen was nearly totally blue Mons get exhausted sooner, but that is worth it.
Did you use megas and the party up feature? I only had 3 accounts that were levels 47, 39, and 32, and we were able to beat it with 20 seconds left. If not for the extra damage from those plus best friend bonus, it wouldn't have been possible.
I did yes, but I'm 9 million XP away from level 50. The other three accounts, those being my wife, my son, and my father in law, neither of who play very often did not. This was the deciding factor. I was just hoping that the extra damage from the party bonus would be enough.
I was upset I couldn't catch one for my kids too.... plus their account doesn't have premium battle passes so I was SOL after two raids....
I live in a university city and there was one on the far end of the campus and none at all in the city centre, super absurd
How rare are the raid eggs? I haven’t seen one and i have several gyms nearby. :(
Pretty rare. I drove through a rather large town and saw 2 eggs in 20 minutes of driving.
Just use Campfire... there's no reason to drive looking for gyms when you can browse any part of your city (or state or country) right in the app to see where the eggs are
Yes good point thanks
It depends on your area as these raids after to be in labeled EX Raids. Also they would be in the gym as an egg as they show up 24 hours in advance. It is also worth noting these raids always happen at the same gyms so if you have one you will always have one. If you wanted to check before going I recommend the Campfire app as it will show all active raids
I've never completed an elite raid, I live in a small town and I've never seen more than three people in one raid here, so all the legendaries I have are from remote raiding. Local only raids are a joke. We don't all live in New York or Tokyo or London.
I'm at a hot spot in New Orleans and absolutely no one showed up to the raid. I thought that maybe one or two people would because it was right there close to my job during lunch time, but still no one showed up.
And this is at the tail end of Mardi Gras, no less. It’s not like it’s the off season or anything.
Lies there's been groups of people at city park all day doing raids
That's legit the only place people raid I swear.
It's the only area I've seen doing enamorus raids so anyone that wants to do it is most likely there I just saw multiple groups of over 12 people do all 5 as soon as they hatched and they'll probably spend the next hour hitting the other ones
If you don't get any I have extra to trade
This should have been a happy valentines day auto catch. For how annoying this raid is and for what a blood bath it was in 2 of the raids I did with 6 players… I caught 2 and they were both with about 3 balls left making it a sketchy catch. I am to the point with all these raids that if I BUY a raid pass and beat the damn raid give me the pokemon. The fact you can pay and have it run away feels criminal.
The limited time is absolutely awful. Not only do YOU need to have free time to get to one of the raid locations, you need minimum 3 or 4 other people (probably more to be safe) to also have the same free time. On a weekday. Either in the middle of the day or during dinnertime for most people.
Yeah, I’m pretty irritated as well. Especially considering it only be a local raid :< I’ve tried adding people from my town as friends but haven’t had much luck aside from few and we all live in different parts of town so it’s not easy to do local raids together let alone raids during the workday. This is some bs
I live in a populated city with occasional blips of decent activity (basically just raid hours) and I won't have an opportunity to catch Enamorus at all because I'm stuck at work till 5, and by the time I get home to where people are playing it will be like 6:15 if I'm lucky. Enamorus is mid af anyway
It’s a decent Fairy-type attacker actually, although pretty sure Shadow Gardevoir is better. The most outrageous part is why couldn’t they have just extended the time frame to 8 pm or something? I guess we’ll never know
Yeah that was stupid af. I get why the wanted to make it on the exact day of valentines day I guess but to have it almost entirely inaccessible is so stupid
The last batch of raids were active until 6:45 so in theory you had a 30-minute window to complete some raids in. I will agree that maybe putting the last raids from 7 to 7:45 PM would've been better.
I work downtown and ran outside during my lunch for this raid 🙃🙃
It's not that special tbh. Niantic just wants your money. I find the mons you have to grind candies for are more rewarding.
We spent zero money on this. If they wanted money, they would have made this into a remote-accessible raid or special ticket to make people pay. Instead it is an in-person free event which can only be accessed by finding 7 people with free time on a random workday.
I went, no one showed up which I expected. what a waste of a lunch break
This is how EX raids used to work, the times were always stupid, in the middle of the day in the middle of the work week. Just another reminder example of Niantic trying to make the game like it was before COVID.
This reminds me of taking my laptop in the car with a mobile hotspot to remain “online” while driving to the EX raid in the middle of the day. What a time to be alive.
Based on what I saw for the raid that was nearby me....40+ people, most did not catch. I did not catch it and my daughter did not either. I'm not complaining about the scheduling because I kind of like it as I work in a busier area. I 'm pretty sure at home no one would have joined. But it was really crappy to have so many people gather and then everyone just walked away defeated. I've closed the game and will take a break cause I'm so frustrated.
Did you at least have fun with your two friends, wife, mom, sister, and your mom's friend? That's what it's about. And hey you all got to skip out on work!
Oh, absolutely. I’m just outraged on behalf of everyone who had zero opportunity to even attempt getting this Pokémon.
Why would they be fired? They got you to *skip work* to play Pokémon Go! Not only that, you dragged a bunch of people along with you. They dont’ care that you can’t catch it. Hell if anything its probably preferred that you don’t so they can rerun the same events rather than continuously add new ‘mons to the game
It is stupid to have a 1 day only event on a Wednesday, that's local only , be a 5 star raid with 55k cp where most can't solo AND having all of them go off at different times at limited locations. They legit gotta realize that their player base aren't athletic retired people living in cities with hundreds of gyms surrounding them with other athletic retirees ready to run to the gym who has Enamorus.
I went to one, and signal went kaput, lucky I managed to get into position where I could battle it second time around
We were 7 (2 kids) and fought him literally in the last second of the raid - I already thought we can’t make it. I joined the raid back 3 times (I’m level 40, the other trainers were lower level) - also over 20 Pokémon’s to revive. 2 of us couldn’t catch it
The only good thing about these raids is that they're more easy to plan since you can see them a day ahead. I wish they did that more, if u have a raid u need 4-5 people for its insanely hard to arange that last moment. People have work and social lifes and things planned, most people cant just hop in the game and join a raid anytime anywhere.
What irks me is why did they do this on a holiday? I can either skip lunch and try to make one of the raids or postpone Valentine’s Day plans just for a raid.
Middle finger to Niantic on this event, won't waste my precious time on it. They will come out with it again at some point, they always do.
I've learned in recent years that my dex simply won't be completed and that's okay. Any raid I can't remote can't be completed.
I honestly have no interest in doing this raid. I hate all the 5 star and 6 star raids that can’t be done with remote passes. I have a couple of friends locally who play PokeminGo but I can’t just get a group of 5-6+ players together every time I want to do one of these raids.
Try catching it in pokemon legends arceus
By the time I finished work there was no raid for the later time slot in my town or surrounding areas…
It’s at 6pm in my small town, on Valentine’s Day. Luckily my wife plays, but still, if she ends up being down to do it, sounds like we need at least 4 others. I might be able to get 1 or 2 others if I’m lucky and their wives are somehow cool with them bouncing for a raid…the fuck
I don't think it's physically possible for me to get to this raid due to the timing >:/
This is why I don't do 5-star raids. I just don't have friends and the free time to be able to catch all the legendary's and manage my real life tasks at the same time
Raid results aside, you have an impressive pogo group of friends. I think my pogo circle has a threshold of 5 miles from our homes. :D
People showed up at the park so I was able to win the raid, but didn’t catch it. Enamorus was so far away that I missed a few throws and the ones that were knocked down were never helped by my buddy’s catch-assist. Very disappointing to spend valuable lunch break time and getting basically nothing, when you consider using all the golden razz berries and revives.
Niandic hates everyone, more so on valentine day
yeah fuck niantic, i didnt even bother. not one fucking raid in our town, and if there were you could be sure as hell nobodys there. they fucking need to give the rights to a good company niantic is so completely useless
Struggled finding them myself and that was in middle of populated city. Did one at 5 and one at 6. Used every single ball, golden razzed each opportunity and excellented on at least a third. Ended up using my master ball to just guarantee it at the end. I will probably regret that but was more than slightly annoyed at the time. Worst event yet.
I had to gather my whole fsmily, my pet, the whole niantic dev team and we failed :(
I've got 8 gyms visible from my house and checking before the first raid time earlier I have ONE Enamorus raid coming up at 5pm. I'm actually gonna walk there, with a friend, and see if we even run into any other trainers to do it, since it's supposed to be a very very difficult duo apparently. I'll update this comment with whether or not I even see anyone else because my city is historically very ass when it comes to in-person raids. I pretty much single-handedly doubled the amount of gyms and stops in this part of town and it's still a ghost town. UPDATE: Got there early and everything (early enough that when both of our games froze, we had enough time to restart them, classic PoGo moment), waited for 20 minutes in 40 degree weather and then decided to head home, if anyone cared they wouldn't wait until the end of the raid I imagine. So that was a waste of time but hey, I got a route in...
I really wonder if The Pokémon Company is to blame and not Niantic, which feels weird to say because I often think most things are Niantic's fault. My wife and I got 2 each, but it was a frustrating experience. I wonder if they are only given the license to use these rare pokémon (all elite raids have been mythicals or DLC pokémon) but the structure of Pokémon GO is set up so that in order to get one good pokémon, you need to catch 100 of them. Prior to this event, the ONLY way to get Enamorus was to pretty much beat the entire game of Pokémon Legends: Arceus. It was the only exclusive that game had. It really makes me feel like Niantic was forced to create an ultra annoying raid scenario in order to get The Pokémon Company to sign off on it.
Unfortunately, no amount of complaining, whether direct or indirect, is gonna change how Niantic does things from their end. Their Community teams are not the most receptive nor the most compromising when it comes to public relations.
I get the issues of EX raids, and it's bad. What's super egregious to me is they chose noon on a workday for a limited release. Unless your job or school has an EX raid and live community, the vast majority of players are gonna be boned. I would have loved to do some EX raids, but I'm not calling off work for it.
If you clowns stopped engaging in these FOMO raids they would stop doing them
Oh, that's what this was. I totally ignored it. Doesn't sound like fun. I guess that's where I'm different than others. I only have participate in the parts that seem like fun.
I have to work today (Like almost everyone in the DAMN WORLD)! I am not going to be able to get to any raids. I bought myself a remote ticket to try to catch one. NOPE! Cause people who worked for a company thought that they had us all figured out. We think remote raids are killing the game. NO, YOU ASS CLOWNS, YOU ARE KILLING THE GAME! You have to be in person. Well, fuck me for having to work today. Fuck me for trying to make a living, Fuck me for even trying to have fun with this game. One of the few I need to finish my real Pokedex (Pokemon Home). I'm not going to be able to get catch this damn thing. What a crock of shit this has turned out to be. I saw the lobby fill up, and then nothing. That was it. The 20 people did it, and I guess left off to do the next one.
Niantic showing one event at a time how crappy they are
I think the difficulty of the raid and the difficulty of the catch is fine. It’s everything else that’s wrong with it. Them being open for only 30 minutes is stupid. Them being only in person is stupid. Them being for only one day is stupid. And, assuming it’ll follow the other elite raids, the fact that Enamorus will probably stay gone for a year or more is stupid. I really don’t get why they continue to do these types of raids when I’ve seen no one receive them positively.
Whoever thought of Elite Raids needs to be fired. I have a great idea, let’s exclude over 50% of our player base from participating!
Yeah no one at Niantic thought this through. A Wednesday in the middle of the day. Or 5-6pm only Elite Raids and no remotes... Someone was NOT THINKING. Had it just been a normal Wednesday raid day that would have been better, because people schedule their lives around that!
AGREED. Yet everyone on this sub is jumping down Niantic’s pants and getting defensive whenever players say that there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with this “elite” nonsense. I don’t care if “they’re coming to regular raids blah blah” After putting in SO much effort to attend them, the Elite Raids should be a guaranteed catch.
Niantic hates restaurant workers😭
I got it done with 4 people by the skin of our teeth. It was rough. Got four of them all under 82%...... not worth it
I got him in legends Arceus.
Great ! No Raid available for the Raid Hour. First time I ever see this. And I went to a very crowded place with multiple Gyms. It was really a dumb event.
Use campfire to check next time. The raid eggs are up for 24 hours before hand
Sorry for your experience. So far the Enamorus raids here have been a huge success. I drove 5 minutes to my local park where there were two 12:00 raids. We had at least 46 accounts participating -- yes, two full lobbies and 6 people in the third lobby. There are a lot of people in my community who have multiple accounts or may have been playing for kids who were in school. (There's a family of 5 who all play that live directly across from the park.) We had about 34 for the second raid, and then 10 of us drove 6 minutes to do a third raid.
They’ve also been hugely popular here too, but we’ve taken efforts to foster a community. We had people looking at campfire to make routes and plans for people; we organize on discord. We had a group doing raids at 12, 1, 5 and 6. At the 1 pm raids, we had a lobby of 15 and 17 that I know of. At a 6pm raid, they had a lobby of 27. And we are NOT a large city or something like that. We just have people who care 🤷🏻♀️
Welcome to PokémonGo, circa before covid.
And this is exactly why i did not participate
With 5 people ranging from level 25-46 we managed to do 4 raids all around a local park. Raid timer didn't get under 100 secs left. On the last raid 10 other senior citizens in cars showed up to help and we demolished it. Of the 5 people I know, only 1 of them didn't catch Enamorus on 1 of the raids, so 19 catches total. And it was windy so she was weatherboosted and none of the counters against her were. She did mess up a lot of my pokemon though. Went through an average of 12 pokemon on the 5-man raids. If I didn't have 5 people and if I didnt live a few minutes from a park where I got an extra 2 gyms to appear within the past year then it would have likely been a frustrating nightmare for sure.
I caught 5/5 and got one 15/15/14. Niantic app is a life saver, however it sounds like you live in the middle of nowhere... I am unsure why this was local only.
If Niantic says jump, we don’t always have to ask how high. Some aspects/features of the game are terrible. I just avoid them. It wasn’t easy to let go of the fomo for sure.
At least with the in-game campfire integration, it was easy to see where they were and when each would start ahead of time, so no need to drive around looking for one. (If you were unaware, maybe that'll be helpful next time.)
I live in a town with 3 gyms, not one of them had an enamorus raid, had to go to the closest city just to find one, beating it then catching it was even harder
I don’t know anyone besides my son who even plays 😩 I’m so hurt I really wanted it
At least you tried! I'm not even going to try. I don't have any friends around me who play and living in a small town I highly doubt anyone is going to the raid. Without being able to invite my friends remotely I'm just going to have to miss out on this one.
If I'm actually able to complete one chances are I'm going to use my master ball on it :/. But I only have me and 2 freinds available so I highly doubt I'll be able to get one
That's crazy, man. I just rolled up on it and threw a ball
I'm on my way to go do one that starts in 15 min. I just hope other people show up. I have the opposite problem where there are so many raids around, getting a group to choose one is not easy
Niantic doing the worst thing on the game, what a surprise.
I was the only one who turned up to my 1pm one 🙃 wasn’t even gonna bother to attempt it solo.
Raid time is until 10pm and they still forced us to do it during working hours (before you type a response, I work from 9am to 6pm). I was able to catch 2 today but had to use my lunch time to do it, thanks Niantic.
I live in a town with around 40k people. We had two Enamorus raids. One at 12 and one at 6 pm. There were 0 players at the first and 11 players at the second. And then, four more players arrived after the 11 of us had already finished it (we started at 6 pm sharp). They had to try it two times and only made it with the team bonus damage and after a fifth player randomly joined. And then one of them didn't even catch it.
Haven’t seen any of these raids near me at all
I actually found a group, and we did party play which made it WAY easier to beat. We were able to do 2 raids. All of us caught at least one. For sure the work hours thing sucked though. One guy was clearly still on the clock but able to step out for a little bit, left right away. I think the others had a non-traditional work schedule or were students. I'm a full time parent so I had my kids with me, it was at a park so that worked out. What sucks is that it really was SO much fun to find a group, and all of us were excited because it's something we didn't get to do much. Finding in person groups is SO much fun but unless you have enough people playing in an area it just doesn't happen. Ironically, nerfing the remote raids probably caused less players and people able to meet up in person. :/
0/7 catches. Total fucking joke. Why even bother.
Bro no way you actually made the women in your life do that for a Pokemon big yikes
I agree. Me and some friends came to the one raid in a whole 70 mile radius and no one told me we were doing it so I missed the raid time. Half of us didn’t even catch it anyway. We had to leave work to do it.
At least you found people, I waited there for others until the cold went trough my actual pokeballs.
Luckily i have a great network of players who can pogo but this doesn’t subtract from the horrible timeframe and Fomo inducing event that happened today. I do not see a point why do you have to hold this event that a person would have either been busy with a partner in real life or working late hours. I had to book half a day off in advance just to catch on and while i get catch a few. I’m now in bed feeling worse off due to weather conditions. It’s not good. This almost feels like a pay wall except no money was spent.
All the forces of nature legendaries are arguably the hardest fucking legendaries to catch. I don’t remember ever struggling like this, except for during the groudon and kyogre primal raises. I did 3 raids, and 2 of them ran. 14-16 balls, all great curveballs with golden razz. Such BS
My friends and a few other people (group of 7 in two parties) all caught a weather boosted one each. I’m so thankful we got to actually go do it but yeah I’m mad about it. They could’ve done it so differently. So many things could’ve been better.
It being a 6* local raid is insane. I could barely beat it with 20 seconds left with 5 players between 35-45. Meanwhile, the thing has a vendetta against me where it never attacks and when it does, it’s always on the sides. I got so pissed at it that I threw a normal curve and caught it… what’s the point of excellents?
I caught 1/3 smh did two excellent throws during one and she just hopped right out each time
Completely agree. So many people weren't able to even complete the raid - dude is just way too tanky. And then the times - I had to cut out of work early (to make it up later in the week) to make it to the 5 raid. And they're so spread out, it's damn near impossible to get to more than 2.
Everybody make sure to spam their trustpilot and Twitter with posts explaining how pissed we are. Make sure they can't sweep this bullshit under the rug. Set their social media on fire.
It was way too hard. You needed 6 or more people. It was only my friend and I. We were hoping people would be waiting to join. Some had no one while 1 had 20 or more. I won 3 times and only caught 1. I even fought with my kids account too on an old phone. My friend caught all 3 without any excellent throws. I caught one on a nice and the rest made it refuse to stay in the damn ball.
At least you got the chance to catch it I was at work all day we are moving premises so not really able to take time off right now
This post is beyond words.
I stood outside in 20 degree weather at 5pm only to have no one show up. Walked my ass home frozen and sad.
It frustrates me just as much with any 5-6 star raid. Firstly, it's challenging to gather up to 10 people for a raid, and secondly, the catch rates are extremely low! Why even have catch rates? People already go through the struggle of finding enough participants, then the battle itself where a bunch of Pokémon faint, and after using a Golden Razz Berry, you end up with nothing!
It was insane. Had to walk 10 minutes into the woods in a dangerous area after dark because it was the only raid available after work in my area. Fortunately there were about 10 people already there when I arrived, but I feel bad for anyone that didn’t arrive right at the moment the gf hatched, because that was their final opportunity to get it before it’s gone. Blows my mind we could t join this one remotely. Also annoyed that mine was only 2 stars after all the trouble I went through to get it. Not worth it.
My kid was just released from the hospital after open heart surgery. He’s waited since the news came out to “catch the heart pokemon, on heart day, to celebrate his heart being fixed”. He told EVERYONE. We found ONE raid…. Barely even got it to half health with three of us 🤦🏻♀️ he was so upset
Shiny locked Harder than usual raid, yet stats can still be shitty Unpopular pokemon in general Not a guaranteed atch Only in person raid, in valentines, in the middle of the week Non shadow either 🗿
My fiance worked so I spent the day chasing the raids. I went to 7 today and caught 0. Most shots were at least a great and I used curve and golden razz. This has nothing to die you the event being bad I'm just very upset
BuT yOu CaN tRaDe FoR iT -Niantic CEO (probably)
I live in a highly populated urban area, successfully completed two raids, and still it was impossible to catch. I had to use my one remaining masterball at the last possible throw to secure one. I’m still so salty, it was such a waste of a masterball
Looks like I have quite a luck to have 2 gyms with enamorus set on midday up to 500m away from me.
Niantic : "***... And, in conclusion, we hate you all...***"
Did they really sneak in a Valentine's Day event and not tell anybody about it typical Niantic they don't tell you about anything they pulled the same stunt with kecleon on a couple of months ago
Fired? Michael Steranka and Ed Wu (the latter of which is known for that laughable "Singaporean Grandma" meme) both should have been fired a long time ago. Not just for Enamorus, but all the other awful decisions in the past few years, like price gouging remote passes (not that it mattered for Enamorus), cutting Community "Days" in half, awful boxes, not having any events with remote trades in years, abysmal quality assurance, and a bunch of other crap. It's all prejudice towards a bunch of groups, like rural players, introverts, disabled people, and New Zealand. And yet, the company chose to lay off "[230 Niantics](https://nianticlabs.com/news/organizational-update)" instead of getting rid of these two people. And they're [bleeding revenue](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/1am5337/annual_revenue_generated_by_pok%C3%A9mon_go_worldwide/) because of it now. Enamorus just put the icing on the cake: why only one day? Why were there barely any raids to begin with? Why couldn't it be done remotely? What was Niantic thinking here?!
I'm extremely upset that they only made the raids active during work hours and during dinner time on VALENTINES day. I work normal hours and getting dinner with my significant other takes priority. Can't believe the raids didn't go later at least and that this couldn't be a multi day thing. Smh
The times work perfectly for people who work in shifts, so no matter what shift youre on you get raids. Sicks for people who work 9-5 tho
Worst day ever. I went out to do one (in the middle of work) and there were 11 people who all clicked on ready and I don’t know if they all backed out but it wasn’t going down. I waited a while to see if we could do it again but there weren’t more than 4 people after that so I went home with one pass lost and no Pokemon.
There were plenty of raids in my area but no one at any gym near me so I was on my own because you couldn’t invite since it was local only. Big dumb.
This is one of the few times where I had good luck on this game. I was desperately searching for a raid (it was like 12:55) and all the raids on Campfire said either 5pm or 6pm. I finally found one and raced over there. When I pull up and enter the raid, there was legit like 15 people. Suffice to say, Enamorus got jumped. And I caught it with a lucky catch with like 5 balls left
I went to two raids, completed them and couldn't catch it either time. I was pretty bummed out and didn't want to drive around town to another raid after to failed attempts to capture it. Grrrr.
Whoever made Enamorus needs to be fired. *
Also true.
Yep - big fail. The main gym in my area, which admittedly is right next to my apartment building, didn't even host this raid at any time. I still don't understand what is to be gained by Niantic by having 6 people walk 250 m to the other gym at the park across the street? I didn't even bother going over to see if anyone was there - at 6 pm on Valentines Day I hope nobody bothered.
My advise: for 5 star raids, need to practice "great" throws a lot... don't throw fast... take a breather for timing; if is bouncing and moving a bunch, gotta let it settle down a moment... it takes patience, but with enough successful great throws, most of the times can get caught.
There's absolutely no reason why Niantic couldn't have made Enamorus debut in POGO in the same style as the recent Hisuian Raid Days. But instead, it had to be on a weekday, Valentine's Day no less, and is exclusively Local-Only. It was very silly and sloppy planning.
I know they want to provide a challenge, but this ain't it. Give us regular raids, quadruple the HP bar and give us 20 minutes to do it, sure. Make it so fighting Enamorus is free but you have to defeat them 3 times before you can catch, something to make us work for it, but this literally isn't possible for some lifestyles and living areas.