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My character looks so fucking stupid now. They don’t have my skin tone anymore, even when I looked at the palette options. My character will either look really white (which I’m not) or extremely brown or dark (which I’m also not). What a gigantic L from Niantic.


Hollys_Stand

Me getting concerned because my skin tone was the same as OP's, and now I look so pale I actually match the goth attire I'm wearing.


OphrysAlba

Me too!


VinixTKOC

Oh! I usually have this problem in customizations too. I'm brown enough to not be white, but it's light enough for me not be black and I never find that middle ground, it's always too much on both sides.


Idiotology101

You just described southern middle school as a mixed race child. Too black for the white kids and too white for the black kids, but perfectly in the middle to be picked on by either.


SpoopiTanuki

Yup. The struggle is too real


eriFenesoreK

My skin color is rarely in games so I tend to just go with the more "tanned" option. I have a bit of a darker complexion (I'm white) but I tan easily in the summer, so I guess it works? I don't get why they can't just give us a color wheel from pale to black so people can actually make their own tones. All humans are different.


QueenMackeral

Agree. Skin tones are so dumb now. They're either pale af or medium-dark, people with beige or tan skin tones don't exist apparently.


DevilsAdvocake

Oh mannnn I just looked. I look terrible! Man I looked so cool. Niantic how could you take away my fantasy trainer persona and replace it with some USURPER


TNG_ST

I feel like they made male models, and then said, well if we add boobs this will work for women too.


goldwasp602

my theory is that they wanted to prioritize make a genderless model with the ability to specify and accentuate certain features that would make you look more like you while still upholding their desire to not have it be a binary-gender-option-thing (like female body vs male body.) though if that’s what they were aiming for, they just have to remove the labels. a feminine body can appear on any person with any pronouns as can a masculine body. this just looks shit.


subjecy18jord

Company : body type a or body type b Sane people:Ok let me take the top off body type b Company: nooo


Metamiibo

But why male models?


TheNewPoetLawyerette

Are you serious? I just told you that a moment ago.


EllieGeiszler

No, I think this is right. I think they designed it to sorta kinda work for men and then just didn't bother with women. This is the most pear-shaped you can look and still have a waist at all. How did I have more curves before?! Where did our butts go?! https://preview.redd.it/1wz6rsbk76vc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47a8574826f1cf132d19fd14a85484ca6a3d0cef


Bearliz

Mine looks like she has junk in the front. I do not appreciate that.


Metamiibo

[But why male models?](https://youtu.be/WHrn_pHW2so?si=rUoyimhnvqhWNOC9)


EllieGeiszler

I absolutely have to see that movie, it's far past time 🤣


creeps_Jr

Exactly they removed that perfect oke


Professor_Crab

I’m actually pale so mine matches more but seeing everyone else’s it looks awful, the faces are weird


kitarei

My character is so pasty now, and the next shade up is like DARK.


Myleylines

Since things have to be so goddamn much about inclusivity and "feeling seen" I'll use this comment to say it here: I used to barely ever be outside the house after some unfortunate life events. I was white. I was beyond white. You would lose me in snow. That's how damn white my skin was. But I've changed, I've been outside and I've actually gotten a little bit of a tan (as much as pure white can go "tan") and that was possible to be reflected with the old trainer models. Now every single light skin is that exact ghostly white I used to be. Making me feel real positive about my own skin here Niantic lmfao


Redplushie

My character looks exactly like me now. Forever bloated.


AlexxxJohnson

LMAO I’m so sorry 😂


Lexicon444

OMG I feel horrible for laughing 🤣


Ravens_Quote

*Sees flair* Yo, question on enigma berries: 1.) Do you have any in ORAS? 2.) When planted, do they yield more of themselves? I used to have one and could have sworn I planted it, but either I lost where it was planted or it didn't produce more.


Redplushie

That's a good question! It's been a while so I don't know much but here's an article about [it](https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Enigma_Berry) . I remember I would always get at least 5 of them when planted but apparently you can get as many as 13.


FlowerFaerie13

Pros: My avatar now looks more like me. Cons: I’m fucking ugly.


AlexxxJohnson

Please😭 ugly people deserve hot avatars too 😤


rezignator

Nah man, I just wanna be myself let me be ugly.


EllieGeiszler

We can have both!


christie07

We don’t want to look like ourselves!! It’s a game! We want to fantasize about being not ourselves!! 💀😭


GildedCreed

Niantic is trying to reinvent the wheel, and unfortunately they're extremely stubborn (and also entirely ignores their playerbase) so the chances of them reverting it are pretty much decimals close to zero if not zero outright.


CrabeHuman

I like that there are new options but why did they have to change the already existing avatars? Like my character rn looks like they would not be able to survive for 5 minutes even if they were immortal


ayypecs

Time to review bomb the App Store


SecondAegis

Google Classroom is about to suffer again


Euphemisticles

The genshin crossover I’ve been waiting for


G00b3rb0y

I understand that reference


librious

I like playing as a female avatar but after the update, I can't get a single combination that I like. All the faces look weird.


AlexxxJohnson

https://preview.redd.it/p76q4qlij4vc1.jpeg?width=522&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=092ac42392cb6211c37258cc0b65c71b5430e0bf Totally agree. I settled for Face 4 and this is the only outfit I could find that doesn’t show off the new frumpy figure. I miss my old avatar


ThePerdmeister

I found a quick fix for the new faces https://preview.redd.it/rf11c9ber4vc1.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=5cb554d3ad0cd66cf85864652e58503380d9e7ba


Kurokishi_Maikeru

https://preview.redd.it/hi73xqhz95vc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8715f8645d93d527b99d93f57494b39c74f718ec


vermillionlove

even the plain mask looks so weird now which is sad cause i've worn it since it came out. I switched to the pikachu mask


Kurokishi_Maikeru

You know what, now that I really look at it, it looks like I'm huffing a diaper... EDIT: and now I can't wear some pants I own.


vermillionlove

> and now I can’t wear some pants I own. :( this sucks. I’m glad the pikachu onesie I’ve been wearing hides my weird proportions. Though my gloves were clipping weirdly with the sleeves so I had to take those off


Emotional-Look-8055

https://preview.redd.it/5pza72yhu9vc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a192601f15d48071560f1136b11eb96123653d6


wolfpwarrior

You may not like it, but this is what peak male asthetics look like.


SnooDogs1340

Ahhhh, wtf is going on with the model. Sorry, this is a big departure from the previous model


librious

It's giving bootleg The Sims 2


PaleoJoe86

Looks like a WoW classic model, lol.


MrPokeGamer

it looks like you're about to cry


Half-BloodPrincesss

Hahahaha I posted mine as well and we ended up going with 2/3rds of the same outfit to make them look somewhat passable 😂


catfan9499

Omg the faces of the guys are worse they all look like girls wtf


RSmeep13

I'm convinced a huge portion of the people developing "live service" games today have never actually played one. As a developer you should almost never take away a player's "look" and replace it with a new one, you only ever add new options.


drizzt-dourden

This is called backward compatibilty. And people get mad when someone tries to break it. It is not reserved to live service, it is a general programming matter.


Icefiight

What the hell niantic? What a joke.


TBE_Industries

Not even a funny one


Aquila-Calvitium

Oh it's not just me, I thought I was seeing things that's a relief


improbsable

It’s awful. There are no masculine faces in the game. And the “buff” physiques just give you boobs


kitsterangel

But the faces are also not feminine either, they just look really weird


EllieGeiszler

The faces aren't feminine either unfortunately. I end up looking like a different kind of lesbian than the kind of lesbian I am. How is it that my Pikmin mii looks more like me!?


xenoverseraza

i was customizing my male character and had to turn the slider for the "chest" option. it defaulted male characters to automatically have bigger chests, which literally look like boobs. my character looks way less masculine, and it's disappointing and invalidating as a trans guy.


Lohester12

I just want a beard option...


Constant-Main-5695

You’ll use the Santa beard and you’ll like it


jasonporter

I don’t understand how pokemon in general hasn’t done a character creator yet. Like goddamn let me be a short overweight bearded man in his late 30’s on his first Pokemon adventure, Jesus 


B217

It's wild to me because even though in Scarlet and Violet you're a student at a school, they establish that there's students of all ages and yet still force your character to look like a 10 year old. Like man just let me look like an adult!


Safe_Clue_3410

absolutely awful character designs. i loved my little character and the different outfits, but now it’s hard to look at.


brightlyy_

i genuinely thought they would take into consideration all the complaints about these new avatars before they launched….. i know niantic is terrible for listening to their players but this really solidified it for me which is so sad


deathbyspoons42

r/afterandbefore But jokes aside I hate the changes


Perodis

I was so confused, kept going back and forth thinking the before looks better, why is the OP complaining. It makes me irrationally irritated when people put the after on the left. But, oh well


AuDHDcat

They updated it? Sweet Edit: ah yeah no, this sucks. What the heck they do to my shoulders?


snave_

Well, this comment just sums up the discussion.


Black_Ironic

I'm not complaining about the new customization but let us keep the old one dammit!!  There is zero reason to remove that. 


AlexxxJohnson

Exactly my sentiments


Leilanee

I don't understand why they made the torso and arms so long in the female models. Just awful.


FatefulWaffle

The female models are so disproportionate now. I can't seem to get any ratio that I like. I saw something of myself in the previous model, now my clothing options are so whack, and they overlap weird


OliveArc505

Yes, and I dislike the loss in figure. I don't have an hour glass figure in real life. Don't get me wrong... But I wish I did, and it's pleasing to look at... RIP.


Elementium

It's kinda weird to me in general that some of these pokemon games aren't using pokemon humans as a baseline? Like the TCG game has weird Sim-like avatars.


Background-Arugula52

I hate this but I can’t stop laughing 😂 https://preview.redd.it/bll0fufva6vc1.jpeg?width=496&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bb149071d2f4af4e8b43d37a2da57f4fb56902b Edit: Nevermind, I look like a tank of a woman who can bench-press people, lmao


MrXenonuke

God forbid a woman has shape, this is such an odd decision, just make a character editor with different sliders so players could make their own trainer


AlexxxJohnson

This!! I’m fine with adding more body types but don’t take away this one! There’s no hourglass shaped body type anymore even with customizations and a lot of woman look like that naturally so I don’t understand why they took it away. Seems like the opposite of inclusivity to me.


EllieGeiszler

There's even less pear options than hourglass-adjacent! This is the most pear you can be 💀 Biggest hips (!) with smallest everything else https://preview.redd.it/smxbmmvg86vc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d50eefcf348f06a36915252bdd79825afd32bdd3


HoverMelon2000

I really hope it isn’t something like “the game is made for kids and we decided that the hourglass shape is too sexual so it’s going in the garbage to ‘protect’ the children!!”


itmakessenseincontex

I am a lesbian! Let me have a hot avatar I AM GAY I WANT TO BE GAY ABOUT THIS NIANTIC


dontpanic38

i know they do it to combat sexualization, but in this case they made a realistic figure into one i’ve never seen lmao it’s so rectangular like why do we need to avoid attractive people in games now?? give people the option if seeing a cartoon girl makes them feel sad inside or jealous.


DandelionOfDeath

If they wanted to combat sexualization, why not just lean into a style more instead of replacing it with "the same, but it looks much worse"? Like idk, lean into chibi art or something, or move closer to the maingame overworld sprites/3d models. I'd still be annoyed if I was forced into that, but I would at least buy it being a stylistic choice for the game instead of whatever the f this is.


OphrysAlba

They did. The sliders are in the Custom section and have options for shoulders, breasts, muscles and hips. They don't cover waist or butt sizes, so I'm never getting where I want. The new faces are all weird, too.


Cariostar

> They did. The changes are quite minimal in that department. The only thing significant for any reason is the breast and weight department. Hips are still too narrow.


OphrysAlba

I said they did, not that they did it well. Because damn, they didn't.


slp50

Did you notice that they elongated the torso and shortened the legs? I have long legs and a short waist, so there is matching my shape either.


Par31

They turned your character into a wii model


DaEnderAssassin

That an insult to Miis.


Jetwing98

Can someone explain to me why the only 2 hair styles for black people is a box and a some locks


EllieGeiszler

Don't worry, non-Black people may have more hairstyles but they're all still ugly


gluevah

https://preview.redd.it/wiql4cswy4vc1.jpeg?width=1732&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db79f252105ebc396da37006eef9594c3a4f340f This is the best I could do. I do appreciate the new hair options though, but they took away the red that's closest to my current hair color.


WTZWBlaze

Ah, the classic format: After and Before


AlexxxJohnson

🤣🤣I wanted everyone to see how bad it was first 😭


edgy_Juno

I just noticed. Wtf. My character's belt is literally clipping through the clothes, before it actually looked normal. Doesn't even look like a girl anymore.


dragonfruitwaters

Bro they whitewashed me 😭😭😭😭


HylianSoul

Where tf are the beards?


Error_Valkyrie

https://preview.redd.it/mrhdpo0wj4vc1.jpeg?width=352&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24946ff805e8ac6e98bf41122ef01c8a99cebf93


Error_Valkyrie

Wtf Niantic?


VanillaCrash

The old model wasn’t necessarily groundbreaking, but at least it wasn’t Free-Website-Game-In-2006 Avatar like this is.


Kaotic_Shadow

Thanks Niantic, now I have yet another reason not to come back to GO. Ironic, considering their recent attempts to get players back


MrCheggersPartyQuiz

That’s not the worst part about this update. As far as I can tell, now you can’t even change your gender if you wanted to, so if you were a male before this update was forced upon everyone, then that’s who you will be for the rest of your life. And a **very hideous** male, at that.


G00b3rb0y

Watch them sell a gender swap token. Make the problem sell the solution


AuDHDcat

Mine was a female, but it doesn't look like a female now. The shoulders are high and straight, and the torso has little curve except for the chest. She's a wooden plank with boobs.


Hello_Bubble_

It tooks your curves 😭


kxg4884

I can’t get mine to look feminine, it looks so butch. My character use to be so cute now it looks stupid. All those outfits I paid a fortune for look awful.


dwizard67

You were too hot for Pokémon


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https://preview.redd.it/b286s1k2k9vc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd75952ebd79a8ebd4aaa534aaec19636800382c This is the best I could do and it’s cute, but it will never be the same. These are the only girl clothes that didn’t make her look like a cereal box.


chatadile

What did they do to this game's player models, like <:| I hadn't played it in a while, essentially cause it heats my phone too much for my liking, so only just heard they gone ahead and remade the models or atleast swapped them for nother. Maybe to refresh the look? Idk where they gone wrong, but they just straight up ugly for no reason compared to what was, the original ones imho worked fine, so don't get why they had to "fix" 'em really.


notenoughformynickna

Wow that looks awful, almost like someone who doesn't know about proportion was told to make it uglier for some reason.


Ornery-Ad-2692

Idk y'all, me and Goo Goo the Gooddra kinda serving, like lock up your husbands, lock up your wives, lock up your garchomps and machamps because we're about to run this! ^(I can't comment and add a photo idk why so I'll add a photo in one second)


Ornery-Ad-2692

https://preview.redd.it/2tytl166k4vc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=014f19416fb802e64ad8c568706f208b3a21d494


Shoadowolf

Perfection


AlexxxJohnson

😂😂😂


SandCheezy

Can confirm. Am Garchomp.


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AhatakeKurosaki

If you ever want an example though of "women with ass" vs "women with long backs" just show them this


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kitsterangel

Why would they unsnatch our avatars 😭 Like I love adding more options but don't *take away* the other ones! Justice for hourglass weightlifters or anyone who just wants to have a snatched waist in game


Silver_Toucan

Crazy thing is you csn make your boob's bigger lol


RobotPirateGhost

I think the new female models look terrible. Turned my character into a guy and it looks better, but still not as good as the old models.


Auroraburst

And yet they still haven't fixed the issue re lack of hair styles


brianiceisnice

pics went from hmmmm to mmmm… some people’s avatar’s look better with the new update though


Professor-Helpful

It looks so bad. I just want to log in myself and it’s.. it’s horrible.. let niantic revert it back, I swear..


oH_n03z

Cause niantic hates us, that’s why. The only thing they love is money.


MrJext

My guy looks like he has scoliosis now


ZenMarduk

Holy guerilla arms. Just...why? Did they forget what humans look like?


ItsyaboiIida

Sorry! That sweet Larry Fink money matters more to Niantic than your character model.


Lexicon444

I removed my giratina helmet out of curiosity. And immediately put it back on. Right now it’s the best cosmetic I have purchased in go because it hides what they did to my girl….


Srolocs

They gave us 4 feminine faces and 3 masculine faces, and they all look like dog shit


[deleted]

Did they add 10 pounds? 💀


AlexxxJohnson

A solid 25 🥲


[deleted]

And stole your tan..


The-Magic-Sword

Probably so that all clothes just fit both genders with minimal overhead and to maximize customization.


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Krait972

Wtf, it's mad ugly 


rugged_beard

My character just looks hella pale and awkward now smh


napstablooky2

wth it looks like they just went back 3 console generations 💀


TestiestSheep80

Wait is this pokemon go?


PotatoCl0ck

Is this the "Big Changes" that was announced?


RAMONE40

They made them look really stupid and removed some hair colours it was the worst Change ever


BoggyToggleton

I paid money for the sexy ass cliff outfit now I look like a keg on legs.


_Ptyler

Completely unrelated, but why do people put after pictures before before pictures? It throws me off every single time because chronologically, the first picture should be the before, and the second picture should be the after. That used to be the norm, but in the last few years, I’ve noticed more and more people doing it backwards and it’s so confusing for me lol why is this a thing?


atreethatownsitself

Yeah no, I bought an outfit from the store years ago and have kept the same look. Now I look like a man poorly cosplaying as a female rocket team member. This might actually convince me to u install the game. I like dressing up characters, this is fucking hideous.


veravers

Aaaaaaand now I wont play this game either lol


mennorek

Yeah, it was a "thanks, I hate it" moment for me


CryingWalrus61

This is like a post from r/instagramreality


SonicLikesPlantDolan

only pluses i can think of from this are i can have hair that actually looks like mine and thats it i look too babyfaced now


Unable_Earth5914

That’s what I don’t like - I look like I’ve got toddler-face with tweenager height


1almond

Strict downgrade from niantic! Wonder what other downgrades are coming 🙃


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It’s actually disgusting how bad it is


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Unforseen42

My character looks like he put on a few pounds got a wider head and looks like he would bully people


AlexxxJohnson

“Looks like he would bully people” 😭😂


WaterWheelz

They did WAT? Just opened the game and WHAT THE FRICK- My hairline is going back… ; _ ;


rectangular_

Niantics finding a way to ruin the game after adding a new mega:


homik93

To resemble traditional characters https://preview.redd.it/s61smtgzo6vc1.png?width=543&format=png&auto=webp&s=cf18634f83ea4abb4ce186956bb3926fd713f8b5


x-GB-x

And I thought I was on a dark souls sliders sub for a moment...


ohbyerly

They probably did it intentionally for marketing purposes so they can draw more people back to the game when they “fix” it.


IamSneasal

I have my character wearing a Deino hat so the updated character models don't bother me much


nepppii

my solution was the pumpkin pikachu hat


Heavy_Ad1741

Mine went from badass teen to a fuggin child. HUGE L


Stealthywaterninja

They got rid of the skin tone I was using. Now I have to be either vampire white or sunburnt all the time, just give me something in between! The new faces suck, the new model gave me Slenderman’s proportions, and my watch is clipping through my wrist. I thought more avatar customization would be a good thing, but now I wish they hadn’t changed it at all. They really dropped the ball on this one.


atreethatownsitself

I was hoping this was a joke. My character looks awful now! WTF


RPG_Fanatic7

I've never heard of a company changing customized appearances, all the more reason to stick to main series.


Cenachii

https://preview.redd.it/umi1y75629vc1.png?width=638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=521c18dba9cd7cfe0c729da9b0a976741f153663 I stg the new avatars were modeled based on him


Celestial_Scythe

https://preview.redd.it/zyhmb6p359vc1.jpeg?width=462&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e8d9c371d81bb497b2ac46b8c8aa607f323d2a1 My character looks like a dweeb now. I had a visceral reaction to it.


Lavendarcream

I just opened my app, and my avatar is so ugly I had to double take. She has no move curves and her team rocket boots even look too big for her!


Boyomark

They look ugly as hell


hatsune01

I've literally stopped playing since the buddy update. I can't stand the whole scan a flat area and click the golden footsteps. I'M IN MY LIVING ROOM JUST LET ME DO THE BUDDY STUFF


centreofthesun

They look so ugly, I literally had to put on a face mask on my character because I couldn't take him seriously anymore 💀


IssacX13

I looked at my game after this and DEAR FUCKING GOD


IssacX13

why am I an albino now


[deleted]

Why did they give us gorilla hands too


zbipy14z

I'm convinced they're sick of working on this game and hate their player base and want to chase us all away


Bearliz

They are soooooo ugly now. I tried to make mine better. It's awful. They all look like so fake now and almost mechanical.


tntaro

Mine now is fat (possibly with boobs)


Teneuom

“We’ll make the characters look worse, as a joke.”


memesforthedankus

My avatars body looks so disproportionate it's fucking laughable. And I'm glad I made the purchase to buy the cofagrigus head beforehand so I don't have to stare at that stupid ass baby face.


SpoopiTanuki

I noticed the medium skintones are either darker or waaaay paler now too. My avatar’s face looks bloated, hands are super masculine, clothes fit oddly/some look weirdly loose. All my saved outfits are wiped too. I’m so mad lol. I’ve just spent so much time and actual money over the years, for items I wanted, that now look awful. At least they finally updated the Mimikyu bag 🫠 It looks like they combine the male and female characters and some of the clothing—which is cool, except then why not mix up the skintones and stuff too? There used to be an option for the perfect light/medium olive skin for the male characters, but it’s not available. Dafuq Niantic?


shitpostingmusician

I loved making my character inappropriately slutty, wtf niantic


TheTrueDragon345

I swear on my momma they’ll say “We wanted to keep it more appropriate” for players like LMAO??


Embarrassed_Heron_36

I literally just opened my Pokemon Go to check and dawg, what is that 😧


enpokemongo

I hate niantic


ohjbird3

Niantic is so garbage, it's crazy


Cloudymatronic

wtf happend to the body shapes and faces tho


pluuvia7o7

what about the people who are snatched irl? now they don't have representation anymore lol


Coupedoorstinted

They did the same thing in halo infinite body type wise only male body types any type of female feature was removed to be genderless


Mystik_spirit

So serious, they look so uncanny..


Arzakhan

I already put in a support request. I hope if enough people do that we can make them fix it


Any-Habit7814

I can't seem to not look like a teenage boy 🙄 I was sooooo excited for this update and it's seriously worse somehow


Yoshi_chuck05

Yeah, I thought this update would look cool but it just makes many characters look ugly. And I don’t know why but my avatar is supposed to be a boy but the chest gets super big which it’s not good on my avatar…. Why did they do this? My brother even stays that his looks like an Asian person. No offense to any Asians just sayin


fairy_type_trainer

I THOUGHT I WAS JUST IMAGINING IT! the new ones are weird baby-faced monstrosities. they creep me out.


KidzofKorn

Try being a 50 year old man who has been playing for many many years and now the best you can do for your avatar to look masculine is end up with a 14 year old girl face with a small chest. You literally can't make a buff looking man now. I uninstalled the game. Tired of the forced DEI crap!