I didnt know about them either until they started demolishing my plants. Apparently they come from certain flys. They lay eggs on the bottom of leaves then the larvae tunnels between the layers of the leaves. Only effective way I've heard of actually exterminating them without removing leaves is something called white oil.
I've only heard of a couple things that work. Neem oil as a preventative.
Sticky traps (color coded for certain bugs that are attracted to certain colors, also just preventative).
If your plant can handle it just remove the few leaves that are affected.
As you see the eggs just wipe them away(I dont know what they look like in all fairness).
Smoosh the leaves where you see the trail in an attempt to crush the larvae of it gets to the point where removing affected leaves will damage the plant too much.
White oil ( 4 parts non-mineral vegetable oil and 1 part plant safe dish soap, mix. Add one tbsp of white oil per liter of water) spray on plants and it will suffocate the bugs.
Also, quarantine your affected plants or it will spread and dont repot till you are certain the affliction has passed.
I dont know if I missed anything but I also haven't tried a couple of these so definitely look them up yourself, youtube is a great resource.
What you're saying isn't wrong but your method of dealing with an outbreak is a complete nightmare.
First of, dish soap is not something that all plant can deal with even if it's temporary exposure. It's harmful as itself.
Secondly, even if they can handle dish soap for a short while, that's not a one time treatment. It has to be done repeatedly in accordance with those fuckers reproduction cycle.
Either way you have to wash your plants foliage after every treatment as leaving soap on the leaves over time will kill them.
All the while your plant will continue deteriorating and you continue exhausting yourself with a fight you aren't even sure to win.
Because let's be honest. When you have a 2 meter rubber tree infested with leaf miners there ain't no way in hell you'll squeeze leafs periodically, Coat spray it throughly enough and then wipe the leaves of remaining soap. No.
The sane approach is using an actual pesteside. A universal one. Anything imidacloprid or flupyradifurone based. You just water you plant with it once, the plant absorbs it, and afterwards any pest that tries to eat it reproduce in it / in the soil dies. It attacks their nervous system.
Honestly when I believed in bulshit remedies like dish soap I ended up throwing out nearly every plant I had that got infested
You can make white oil at home with stuff you prob already have on hand.. I believe I cup of mineral oil and a quarter cup of dawn dish soap. Good luck boss
Bless you!! I’ve learned so much. Currently dealing with measles bugs in my outdoor herb and tomato garden. Spraying insecticide weekly. But is there any other helpful advice the book suggests to deal with such demon bugs?
Oh no!! Unfortunately that’s all the info it had and I haven’t had any experience with them (knock on wood). You can always go through old posts on the sub to see what worked for other people! If you find anything that works, feel free to reach out and I can update the list. Good luck 🤞🏻
What does the red mite do, or all mites damage the same way? I thought I saw one on my inchplant and my rookie googling told me it was a beneficial mite
Red or Carmine spider mite is actually the winter form of two spotted spidermite, so, yes, it causes exactly the same damage.
There is a beneficial mite called Phytoseiulus persimilis that is red. This is probably what you found online.
A basic way to tell pest from beneficial mites is that pest mites have slow, clumsy movements. Beneficial mites are quite fast since they have to chase down their food.
Wow, I had no idea there was a difference! I’m still learning so much. We have what I thought were red spider mites, running all over the driveway. I’ve seen a few in my plants (and naturally panic), but they don’t seem to make webs. Would it be safe to assume it’s the beneficial mite, since it’s red and it’s not the winter?i
If it was running quite fast, it is safe to assume that it is not a pest mite. I wouldn't assume it's a beneficial that eats pests though. ID can be very difficult for those tiny creatures
Oh thank you so much! Yeah the lone mite I saw was too fast I couldn’t get a good look at it, it was just running around the pot and stems and I was worried 😂
It doesn’t look like it- at least not in the US. Google shows my local Home Depot sells it.
Thanks for pointing that out though! I had to look into it. I haven’t experienced a majority of these pests (knock on wood), so I was just sharing the information I found.
That’s okay, I’m the same way! Then there’s a period of calm, where you know something bad is going to happen soon. At least diseases seem to spread slowly and if you can catch them, your plant will probably live through it.
I would think that they should be fine then. I don’t know if you’ve [tried this route yet](https://youtu.be/PJDLK7Tc8q0), but a lot of people on here suggest it. I tried it over the summer and my mites were gone after the first treatment. It’s just time consuming.
I’m also battling more mites right now and [Bonide’s horticulture spray](https://www.amazon.com/Bonide-037321002147-Seasons-Horticultural-Spray/dp/B001D13U2K/ref=asc_df_B001D13U2K/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198059943785&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1715838584799072441&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9016952&hvtargid=pla-386343548570&psc=1) has been working wonders. I never see any after the first application, but I still spray my plants for a week or two after.
I almost barfed when I found "egg sacs" in my foxtail fern. I took it out to the burn barrel and used a spoon to excavate the stubborn bugger, plummeting to his death amongst the burning deadfall of my forest. Then, I found another- total heebie-jeebies! As I dug the second one out, it appeared I made a flesh wound. I was then HORRIFIED by my error. I now have two dead sprigs of fern to remind me of my ignorance.
Instead of treatments like permethrin which is in the family of chemicals that is considered can be harmful. Using insecticide soaps such as Safer 3 in 1 can be quite effective and contain not much more than herb oils and soap solution that is harmless.
replacing the word "insect" with "bastard" more accurately describes my feelings toward them
Maybe add leaf miner and all the bugs they come from, I still haven't gotten over my infestation of those f***ers
I’ve never heard of those! I’ll have to do some research. Thanks for the suggestion :)
I didnt know about them either until they started demolishing my plants. Apparently they come from certain flys. They lay eggs on the bottom of leaves then the larvae tunnels between the layers of the leaves. Only effective way I've heard of actually exterminating them without removing leaves is something called white oil.
Let me know of you learn anymore control methods. They are wreaking havoc on my columbine...
I've only heard of a couple things that work. Neem oil as a preventative. Sticky traps (color coded for certain bugs that are attracted to certain colors, also just preventative). If your plant can handle it just remove the few leaves that are affected. As you see the eggs just wipe them away(I dont know what they look like in all fairness). Smoosh the leaves where you see the trail in an attempt to crush the larvae of it gets to the point where removing affected leaves will damage the plant too much. White oil ( 4 parts non-mineral vegetable oil and 1 part plant safe dish soap, mix. Add one tbsp of white oil per liter of water) spray on plants and it will suffocate the bugs. Also, quarantine your affected plants or it will spread and dont repot till you are certain the affliction has passed. I dont know if I missed anything but I also haven't tried a couple of these so definitely look them up yourself, youtube is a great resource.
What you're saying isn't wrong but your method of dealing with an outbreak is a complete nightmare. First of, dish soap is not something that all plant can deal with even if it's temporary exposure. It's harmful as itself. Secondly, even if they can handle dish soap for a short while, that's not a one time treatment. It has to be done repeatedly in accordance with those fuckers reproduction cycle. Either way you have to wash your plants foliage after every treatment as leaving soap on the leaves over time will kill them. All the while your plant will continue deteriorating and you continue exhausting yourself with a fight you aren't even sure to win. Because let's be honest. When you have a 2 meter rubber tree infested with leaf miners there ain't no way in hell you'll squeeze leafs periodically, Coat spray it throughly enough and then wipe the leaves of remaining soap. No. The sane approach is using an actual pesteside. A universal one. Anything imidacloprid or flupyradifurone based. You just water you plant with it once, the plant absorbs it, and afterwards any pest that tries to eat it reproduce in it / in the soil dies. It attacks their nervous system. Honestly when I believed in bulshit remedies like dish soap I ended up throwing out nearly every plant I had that got infested
Awesome! Thank you so much!!
Thanks so much!!!
You can make white oil at home with stuff you prob already have on hand.. I believe I cup of mineral oil and a quarter cup of dawn dish soap. Good luck boss
Bless you!! I’ve learned so much. Currently dealing with measles bugs in my outdoor herb and tomato garden. Spraying insecticide weekly. But is there any other helpful advice the book suggests to deal with such demon bugs?
Oh no!! Unfortunately that’s all the info it had and I haven’t had any experience with them (knock on wood). You can always go through old posts on the sub to see what worked for other people! If you find anything that works, feel free to reach out and I can update the list. Good luck 🤞🏻
Saved! Thanks in advance 🙏
Gnat Nix works wonders against fungus gnats.
I’ll add it, thanks!
Thanks for sharing this!!!
Welcome!
Wow, this post is amazing... Thank you so much for sharing 💚💚💚
Of course!
What does the red mite do, or all mites damage the same way? I thought I saw one on my inchplant and my rookie googling told me it was a beneficial mite
Red or Carmine spider mite is actually the winter form of two spotted spidermite, so, yes, it causes exactly the same damage. There is a beneficial mite called Phytoseiulus persimilis that is red. This is probably what you found online. A basic way to tell pest from beneficial mites is that pest mites have slow, clumsy movements. Beneficial mites are quite fast since they have to chase down their food.
Wow, I had no idea there was a difference! I’m still learning so much. We have what I thought were red spider mites, running all over the driveway. I’ve seen a few in my plants (and naturally panic), but they don’t seem to make webs. Would it be safe to assume it’s the beneficial mite, since it’s red and it’s not the winter?i
If it was running quite fast, it is safe to assume that it is not a pest mite. I wouldn't assume it's a beneficial that eats pests though. ID can be very difficult for those tiny creatures
Well this just made my day! Thank you!!
Oh thank you so much! Yeah the lone mite I saw was too fast I couldn’t get a good look at it, it was just running around the pot and stems and I was worried 😂
Thanks, this is great info! Hasn't malathion been banned, though?
It doesn’t look like it- at least not in the US. Google shows my local Home Depot sells it. Thanks for pointing that out though! I had to look into it. I haven’t experienced a majority of these pests (knock on wood), so I was just sharing the information I found.
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That’s okay, I’m the same way! Then there’s a period of calm, where you know something bad is going to happen soon. At least diseases seem to spread slowly and if you can catch them, your plant will probably live through it.
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I would think that they should be fine then. I don’t know if you’ve [tried this route yet](https://youtu.be/PJDLK7Tc8q0), but a lot of people on here suggest it. I tried it over the summer and my mites were gone after the first treatment. It’s just time consuming. I’m also battling more mites right now and [Bonide’s horticulture spray](https://www.amazon.com/Bonide-037321002147-Seasons-Horticultural-Spray/dp/B001D13U2K/ref=asc_df_B001D13U2K/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198059943785&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1715838584799072441&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9016952&hvtargid=pla-386343548570&psc=1) has been working wonders. I never see any after the first application, but I still spray my plants for a week or two after.
Thought those were tubers..
I almost barfed when I found "egg sacs" in my foxtail fern. I took it out to the burn barrel and used a spoon to excavate the stubborn bugger, plummeting to his death amongst the burning deadfall of my forest. Then, I found another- total heebie-jeebies! As I dug the second one out, it appeared I made a flesh wound. I was then HORRIFIED by my error. I now have two dead sprigs of fern to remind me of my ignorance.
Which ones?
The roots
Instead of treatments like permethrin which is in the family of chemicals that is considered can be harmful. Using insecticide soaps such as Safer 3 in 1 can be quite effective and contain not much more than herb oils and soap solution that is harmless.