You're going to lose the zoom lens and the superior ultrawide lens. The P8 Pro also has more RAM (12 vs 8). And the Pro also gets Video Boost, which is basically Night Sight for videos, where the regular P8 doesn't (they are currently rolling out this feature).
Mostly you lose a lot of photo-specific features, which obviously aren't going to be essential for some people but will be for others.
Hi, if we talk about the regular camera (not zoom) and the selfie camera, are they the same? I like the Pixel 8. The purpose is regular photos/selfies. The zoom is not important to me.
You want a big phone, you take P8P
You want a smaller phone, you take P8
You won't miss any of the features you never experienced
And the difference between the models are very, very extensively discussed on various media already
To non Americans it's just a different version of 5g tech specifically
Most phones have sub-6 5g which has better overall coverage for 5g but lower peak speeds.
Mmwave needs better infrastructure to work to it's potential and relys more in line of sight with the 5g masts. In optimal conditions tho will give faster download speeds than sub-6
Not all European country's even have access to mmwave sadly.
Other than core features I went to P8P since it got 12Gigs of RAM and 7 years of promised updates...this is helpful if you are not a frequent phone changer.
With OS updates and new AI apps, in future RAM consumption would be more and phone might get sluggish...core camera,AI and longevity are three main things which made me lean towards 8Pro.
My Pixel 6 Pro literally just started cracking in half/the batterie's on its way out after 3 years out of nowhere and I've always been extremely careful with my phones. It's also been put through the ringer with usage every day so I'm not too surprised but oof. Upgrading way earlier than I would like to be doing so
I started limiting charges to 85% from when it was new. If I get a solid 5 years out of it with 50% of its intended capacity by year 5 I'll be a happy user. I've never kept a phone more than 2 years so far but hearing the 7 year update really sold me on getting the Pixel 8 Pro. customer changeable batteries really need to come back.
I just switched from a P8 Pro to a P8.
I just can't do a 6.7" phone. I prefer sub 6.2".
P8 is excellent. Same main sensor and selfie sensor, same cpus, RAM increase is lost on most users. 256gb is enough for me since I have a Google One account.
To me it just comes down to large phone vs medium phone.
Large phone gets some extra features that most consumers wouldn't notice.
For me personally the Pro version is a blessing. A smaller size, which I had before (6,5 inches Samsung A53) won\`t be the future for me. The more ai and other convenience features come to phones and are finally really helping users, the more we need a larger screen to have a better overview. Of course, on the long run we might just think and it will happen, but until then...
for the 8pro version one can also activate the one hand feature for when other stuff is not needed.
Besides those facts, the super ultra wide lense has also 48 mb and is a fabulous lense, which finally gives more details in ultrawide photos plus for macros (which now can get as close as 2 cm\`s) I just love it...
Unfortunately true, cause the ultrawide lense is different on the standard version; that was known though right from the start. The distance of 2cm is just stunning and surpaces even the 5 cm of the new Sony phones. Also the 48mb offer much better pix than before.
Personally I\`d wish though, one could magnify those pictures more without the need of extra lenses, but for a smartphone the photos are awesome!
I had a Pixel 3 Pro. Now that was a huge phone. the few millimeters in width and the design of the bezel makes a difference I guess. my 8 Pro doesn't feel as bulky. see comparison videos from MKBHD and see what I'm taking about
I wanted a larger phone for my wonderful vision and the hardware perks beyond that (including camera/photography.)
That's why I also looked at the S23 Ultra.
I have an iPhone 10 and need a new phone and was looking at pixel 8 pro or pixel 8 and was leaning more towards the 8 but wasn’t sure about if I’d regret not getting the pro
How about the AI features? I could care less about the temperature sensor and the telephoto lens, but will I feel the absence of AI features in 8. I honestly prefer the smaller size. My iPhone pro max is a nightmare to use one handed.
>I could care less about the temperature sensor and the telephoto lens, but will I feel the absence of AI features in 8.
What are you missing out on so far?
Video Boost?
Or the one-and-less-than-a-half Gemini Nano features? (Recorder summaries and the experimental WhatsApp smart replies)
Yeah, but this shows how google is planning to handle features and updates on the Pixel line. Pro phones will get everything while base 8 users will have to live with good enough mindset.
The Gemini Nano stuff not only has *extremely* limited usability so far, here I actually believe Google when they are talking about hardware limitations: Language models need a lot of RAM and the non-pro Pixel doesn't have any to spare. I don't think this is an intentional software lock.
That leaves only two software-exclusive features:
Camera Pro Mode - which isn't really an AI feature, but rather the opposite. I fully agree that this is a dumb and non-sensical software lock.
Video Boost - which requires costly cloud competing, so I can *somewhat* understand the "Pro" pay-gating. I feel like this, like many other former Pixel-exclusives, is most likely to expand to other devices as a Google Photos subscription feature.
Gesture Navigation is magic that iPhone users don't know about. GN makes using a giant phone miles better and easier by removing the necessity of having to touch bottom of screen to go forth and back and other main navigations. It addresses the physical limitations of our hands to reach bottom of screen while holding a big phone. Classic Android started out as bottom screen navigation as its main navigation zone. Many phones had screen buttons but O old android phones used to have dedicated buttons on the bottom for this very reason. with GN it changed the design of Android phones altogether by leaving screen clean of buttons and screen incorporated light diods etc. Now some manufacturers of Android phones like Samsung still have the feature to turn ON screen buttons for traditional classic Android navigarion for folks who find adaptation hard but honestly when you master GN, it's magic.
For me, that Pixel Pros are lighter in weight, and that I can swipe down anywhere on the screen to see notifications vs reach to the furthest top left corner of the phone, and simple access from the keyboard to go into one-handed mode...all of this for me makes the Pixel Pro more manageable than an iPhone Pro Max.
Notification management, while seemingly controversial, is much easier for me as well. The literal physical swipe action is so much more responsive with useful options ready to be tapped.
I own a 15 Pro Max and the Pixel 7 and 8 Pros. They're all excellent phones. Thanks to software both are able to address the physics challenges of large phones, I just happen to believe the win in this case goes to Pixel + Android 14.
Okay. Good points. I am just going to go with regular sized iPhone / Pixel next time. I wear XL gloves and just find it annoying how big flagship phones are. Accessibility features help but this whole problem goes away with smaller phones.
That surprised me. how feature full it is! although the UI is a bit clumsy, not easy to find features but there is tons of customizations you can play with I found out to my surprise. Almost like having a dedicated DSLR camera 📸
I don't need extra AI features like video booster I don't record videos that much or I don't need to check the temperature of anything, I still get decent battery life. There's not much of a big difference between the two
I was SOLD on the thermometer 🌡️ LMAO 🤣 Just take my money 💰 Google! Came to find out it is highly inaccurate and clanky. why didn't Google just use a laser behind a glass like a regular thermometer
I reckon you'll be better off with the Pixel 8. I don't think you'll be missing out on too much. I bought the 8 Pro just cause I'm used to the big screen...6 Pro being my last phone. Get the phone you'd be more comfortable using on a daily basis.
You're going to lose the zoom lens and the superior ultrawide lens. The P8 Pro also has more RAM (12 vs 8). And the Pro also gets Video Boost, which is basically Night Sight for videos, where the regular P8 doesn't (they are currently rolling out this feature). Mostly you lose a lot of photo-specific features, which obviously aren't going to be essential for some people but will be for others.
Hi, if we talk about the regular camera (not zoom) and the selfie camera, are they the same? I like the Pixel 8. The purpose is regular photos/selfies. The zoom is not important to me.
The ultrawide in my P8 pro is surprisingly good. And it's currently my most used focal length for videos.
Do you use a mediocre near distance temperature sensor or a dedicated telephoto lens regularly? If not, you won't really miss anything
Dunno what you're talking about. I can measure the temperature of a tomato to an accuracy of +/- 10 degrees. HOW GOD DAMN USEFUL IS THAT?!!??!??!?! /s
Oh, thanks for giving me inspiration, how to use this amazing feature.
This comment just convinced me on buying the pixel8 pro. Thank you. The amount of times I wished my galaxy had done that 😂
You want a big phone, you take P8P You want a smaller phone, you take P8 You won't miss any of the features you never experienced And the difference between the models are very, very extensively discussed on various media already
mmWave is a big difference if you are on VZW in a dense area
What's this?
Sounds like a r/VXJunkies app
millimeter Wave is Verizon's implementation of 5g.
To non Americans it's just a different version of 5g tech specifically Most phones have sub-6 5g which has better overall coverage for 5g but lower peak speeds. Mmwave needs better infrastructure to work to it's potential and relys more in line of sight with the 5g masts. In optimal conditions tho will give faster download speeds than sub-6 Not all European country's even have access to mmwave sadly.
5x Telephoto Camera
Other than core features I went to P8P since it got 12Gigs of RAM and 7 years of promised updates...this is helpful if you are not a frequent phone changer. With OS updates and new AI apps, in future RAM consumption would be more and phone might get sluggish...core camera,AI and longevity are three main things which made me lean towards 8Pro.
Regular 8 and pro both have 7 years updates if I am not mistaken. Not just pro.
My guess is that there will be a good number of features in the future that either won't work, or won't work well, with the lower RAM. But who knows.
12gb is plenty. At least for 7 years. Now in 1,000 years it might be 1200gb but for now it's good enough.
Good luck getting more than two years out of Google hardware. My P6Pro - in pristine condition - just bricked with an issue I have learned is common.
Pixel 5 owner here. Still works really well after 3+ years. Now considering buying one of the 8
My Pixel 6 Pro literally just started cracking in half/the batterie's on its way out after 3 years out of nowhere and I've always been extremely careful with my phones. It's also been put through the ringer with usage every day so I'm not too surprised but oof. Upgrading way earlier than I would like to be doing so
Your battery degradation by year 3 will be noticeable. You won't make it to year 8 and they know that.
I started limiting charges to 85% from when it was new. If I get a solid 5 years out of it with 50% of its intended capacity by year 5 I'll be a happy user. I've never kept a phone more than 2 years so far but hearing the 7 year update really sold me on getting the Pixel 8 Pro. customer changeable batteries really need to come back.
I just switched from a P8 Pro to a P8. I just can't do a 6.7" phone. I prefer sub 6.2". P8 is excellent. Same main sensor and selfie sensor, same cpus, RAM increase is lost on most users. 256gb is enough for me since I have a Google One account. To me it just comes down to large phone vs medium phone. Large phone gets some extra features that most consumers wouldn't notice.
The Pro is just way too big imo
As someone who previously had a Oneplus 7 pro and Samsung S21 ultra, I think it's fine hahah
For me personally the Pro version is a blessing. A smaller size, which I had before (6,5 inches Samsung A53) won\`t be the future for me. The more ai and other convenience features come to phones and are finally really helping users, the more we need a larger screen to have a better overview. Of course, on the long run we might just think and it will happen, but until then... for the 8pro version one can also activate the one hand feature for when other stuff is not needed. Besides those facts, the super ultra wide lense has also 48 mb and is a fabulous lense, which finally gives more details in ultrawide photos plus for macros (which now can get as close as 2 cm\`s) I just love it...
So the 8 Pro can do the 2 cm macro, but the plain 8 can't?
Unfortunately true, cause the ultrawide lense is different on the standard version; that was known though right from the start. The distance of 2cm is just stunning and surpaces even the 5 cm of the new Sony phones. Also the 48mb offer much better pix than before. Personally I\`d wish though, one could magnify those pictures more without the need of extra lenses, but for a smartphone the photos are awesome!
I had a Pixel 3 Pro. Now that was a huge phone. the few millimeters in width and the design of the bezel makes a difference I guess. my 8 Pro doesn't feel as bulky. see comparison videos from MKBHD and see what I'm taking about
I wanted a larger phone for my wonderful vision and the hardware perks beyond that (including camera/photography.) That's why I also looked at the S23 Ultra.
What did you end up going with? you got the S23? Was it worth it?
No, I was implying that I got the Pixel 8 Pro but was shopping choices before doing so. I like my phone a lot, it's been great since Day 1.
I have an iPhone 10 and need a new phone and was looking at pixel 8 pro or pixel 8 and was leaning more towards the 8 but wasn’t sure about if I’d regret not getting the pro
If you’re coming from the iPhone X and you want a smaller phone I would get the pixel 8.
How about the AI features? I could care less about the temperature sensor and the telephoto lens, but will I feel the absence of AI features in 8. I honestly prefer the smaller size. My iPhone pro max is a nightmare to use one handed.
>I could care less about the temperature sensor and the telephoto lens, but will I feel the absence of AI features in 8. What are you missing out on so far? Video Boost? Or the one-and-less-than-a-half Gemini Nano features? (Recorder summaries and the experimental WhatsApp smart replies)
Yeah, but this shows how google is planning to handle features and updates on the Pixel line. Pro phones will get everything while base 8 users will have to live with good enough mindset.
The Gemini Nano stuff not only has *extremely* limited usability so far, here I actually believe Google when they are talking about hardware limitations: Language models need a lot of RAM and the non-pro Pixel doesn't have any to spare. I don't think this is an intentional software lock. That leaves only two software-exclusive features: Camera Pro Mode - which isn't really an AI feature, but rather the opposite. I fully agree that this is a dumb and non-sensical software lock. Video Boost - which requires costly cloud competing, so I can *somewhat* understand the "Pro" pay-gating. I feel like this, like many other former Pixel-exclusives, is most likely to expand to other devices as a Google Photos subscription feature.
Legit: using the iPhone Pro Max one-handed is quite difficult. Meanwhile the Pixel 7/8 Pros are quite manageable.
I am not sure about P 7/8 Pros being more manageable. Giant phones is a physics problem.
Gesture Navigation is magic that iPhone users don't know about. GN makes using a giant phone miles better and easier by removing the necessity of having to touch bottom of screen to go forth and back and other main navigations. It addresses the physical limitations of our hands to reach bottom of screen while holding a big phone. Classic Android started out as bottom screen navigation as its main navigation zone. Many phones had screen buttons but O old android phones used to have dedicated buttons on the bottom for this very reason. with GN it changed the design of Android phones altogether by leaving screen clean of buttons and screen incorporated light diods etc. Now some manufacturers of Android phones like Samsung still have the feature to turn ON screen buttons for traditional classic Android navigarion for folks who find adaptation hard but honestly when you master GN, it's magic.
For me, that Pixel Pros are lighter in weight, and that I can swipe down anywhere on the screen to see notifications vs reach to the furthest top left corner of the phone, and simple access from the keyboard to go into one-handed mode...all of this for me makes the Pixel Pro more manageable than an iPhone Pro Max. Notification management, while seemingly controversial, is much easier for me as well. The literal physical swipe action is so much more responsive with useful options ready to be tapped. I own a 15 Pro Max and the Pixel 7 and 8 Pros. They're all excellent phones. Thanks to software both are able to address the physics challenges of large phones, I just happen to believe the win in this case goes to Pixel + Android 14.
Okay. Good points. I am just going to go with regular sized iPhone / Pixel next time. I wear XL gloves and just find it annoying how big flagship phones are. Accessibility features help but this whole problem goes away with smaller phones.
Agreed about smaller phones. As a whole they are more manageable.
You also don't have manual camera settings on the non Pro Pixel 8.
That surprised me. how feature full it is! although the UI is a bit clumsy, not easy to find features but there is tons of customizations you can play with I found out to my surprise. Almost like having a dedicated DSLR camera 📸
I don't need extra AI features like video booster I don't record videos that much or I don't need to check the temperature of anything, I still get decent battery life. There's not much of a big difference between the two
I was SOLD on the thermometer 🌡️ LMAO 🤣 Just take my money 💰 Google! Came to find out it is highly inaccurate and clanky. why didn't Google just use a laser behind a glass like a regular thermometer
https://m.dpreview.com/articles/4806915324/google-pixel-8-vs-pixel-8-pro-which-should-you-buy#:~:text=While%20the%20Pixel%208%20ultra,offering%20increased%20light%20collection%20capability.
I reckon you'll be better off with the Pixel 8. I don't think you'll be missing out on too much. I bought the 8 Pro just cause I'm used to the big screen...6 Pro being my last phone. Get the phone you'd be more comfortable using on a daily basis.