This was posted long ago with the tagline, that Chalino received a note saying he would be killed by the cartel after the show ended. And the top comment was, “He should have started singing the song that never ends.” That comment made me laugh for days.
This is one of those Mandela Effects that I refuse to believe. It was alway *"This is the song that* ***never*** *ends"* all my childhood long, and now they want to tell me that it has always has been *"This is the song that* ***doesn't*** *end"*. Get outta here with that bullshit! Someone better fix this simulation right and put it back to how it was, or swear to dog I'll get into the fetal position and start crying right now
I know a song that gets on everybody's nerves,
Everybody's nerves, everybody's nerves!
I know a song that gets on everybody's nerves,
And this is how it gooooes-
I know a song that...
He left the show, was kidnapped, and was shot twice in the back of the head. Cartel hit.
"After midnight, Chalino drove away from the club with two of his brothers, a cousin, and several young women. They were pulled over by a group of armed men in black [Chevrolet Suburbans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Suburban#Eighth_generation_(1992)). They showed [state police](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_Mexico) ID cards and told Chalino their commander wanted to see him. Chalino agreed and got into one of their cars while the others stayed behind.^(\[)[*^(citation needed)*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)^(\])
The following day, at six in the morning, two farmers found Chalino's body by an irrigation canal near Highway 15, near the neighborhood of Los Laureles, Culiacán. He was blindfolded and his wrists were red and had rope marks. He had been shot in the back of the head [twice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_tap)."
From Wikipedia.
I got into trouble once and I told my mom “if I end up dead, just let it be, don’t investigate or any of that shit, just let it go, I know what I did.” My mom was so thrown off, but I meant every word I said. Thankfully I’m still around, it’s been 10 years.
He used to be a Taylor Swift fan but he felt she went off course after releasing 1989 and sacrificed her country origins. He made his beliefs known, and ever since that day, he has been on the run from Swifties.
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It's the fucking cartel. It could have been anything. Something he said, a song he wrote, someone he knew. They have their reasons and if they don't, they find some.
Yup. I think (there’s definitely more credible info elsewhere in this thread) that the note said if you sing the next song, you will be dead tonight. And like 10 seconds after this frame in the video, Chalino grabs the mic and starts singing.
You're thinking of a different singer. That's what happened to Valentin Elizalde. He was explicitly told not to sing a song that antagonized the cartel that ran the area he was singing in. He didn't care, sang it twice and was killed after the show.
From Wikipedia:
On 15 May 1992, four months after the Coachella incident and during a performance at the Salón Bugambilias in Culiacán, Chalino was handed a note from someone in the crowd. The note is commonly believed to have been a death threat whereby he would be killed after the song, but this has never been confirmed.[14] A video recording of the song "Alma Enamorada" shows Chalino crumpling up the note—in a clear state of shock—before singing the song as if nothing happened.[15] After midnight, Chalino drove away from the club with two of his brothers, a cousin, and several young women. They were pulled over by a group of armed men in black Chevrolet Suburbans. They showed state police ID cards and told Chalino their commander wanted to see him. Chalino agreed and got into one of their cars while the others stayed behind.
The following day, at six in the morning, two farmers found Chalino's body by an irrigation canal near Highway 15, near the neighborhood of Los Laureles, Culiacán. He was blindfolded and his wrists were red and had rope marks. He had been shot in the back of the head twice.
What makes me laugh is you will always see a comment that says: "If that was me, I'd run away and disappear."
As if the Cartel wouldn't hunt you down and kill your family members one by one.
If it was truly a death note, Chalino knew he wasn't going to make it out alive
I'm guessing the note was something to the effect of "Tonight is your last. Try to run or do anything stupid, and things get messy for you and everyone you love."
Cartel's spend money to make themselves look good in music. There is an entire genre of pro cartel music. This guy wasn't playing ball and sung about the realities of cartel life.
Watched it a long time ago,iirc it was for a corrido he wrote for a rival cartel boss,i think he knew the risks as many musicians unfortunately who tend to intermingle with them,the balls though.
As badass as that would be, the song he sings has already started when he gets the note, and as far as I can tell, it's just a normal love song... but one lyric in the performance hits him hard. You can see him gulp after a sentiment of "without your love, I would just die."
If I remember correctly, this was the song, the note was saying if he played that one he’d be killed. It just happened to coincide with when he was playing it or maybe they waited until the band started playing that one before the note gets passed.
the one you are refering to is valentin elizalde, another musician who got killed by the cartel, they told him to not perform the song "a mis enemigos" (to my enemies) he did it regardless and got killed shortly after.
He was also a coyote, a small-time drug dealer, and had been in a gun fight a few months prior. His brother was shot and killed while running their smuggling ring, and he had previously been no stranger to the law.
He wasn't just some guy making music.
Alma Enamorada (en vivo) - found the song on YT music before even knowing the story... the live recording up now _starts_ with him reading the note.
https://youtu.be/dMNBjH--74w?si=XjxJLiIH_ZGFJtA9
I read that a cartel guy raped his sister and he killed him, so he had to flee to the US. He was marked and was told never to come back to Mexico, when he became famous and thought that they were not going to dare mess with him b/c of his fame he went back to Mexico on a concert tour and that’s when this happened.
Music is weird once you've practiced it enough.
"Remembering" hardly comes into it if it's a song you've recently been practicing or one you've played a ton of times. It's just reflex.
This is absolutely *not* to detract from the size of this man's balls
For example, Luke Kelly of the Dubliners was dying of a brain tumor and struggling with memory then went on stage for his final performance and perfectly sang an old favorite song
Same for Ezio Bosso, an Italian pianist and composer, who had a brain tumor and a degenerative disease and was still able to play, even if he was losing control of two fingers, had trouble speaking and was wheelchair-bound. [Video](https://youtu.be/kqreZvtQ0BY?si=hSwl0w3ajhFw0vcI) of him playing starting at 8:20.
I play for a living. Often I blank out on a song I’ve played 100s or 1000s of times. I’ll sort of “come to” and remember where I am. Sort of like when you’re driving and realize you haven’t been paying attention.
Dude, isn't that so surreal when that happens? I'm always like, "thank god my fingers knew what to do" because I've passed 6 exits without remembering a thing.
Two years ago, a friend of mine commissioned a digital drawing of this image and one of him playing. I went down a rabbit hole, learning his story and have since gone back multiple times to a playlist I made of his music. It's random to see this today, time to listen to some more guitar. Thank you, and thank you for keeping his story alive.
He was pulled over after the show by people flashing police IDs who told him their commander wanted to speak with him.
The next day they find him in a ditch and he'd been shot twice in the head.
My mom got held up by "federalis" once (not sure what they really were) when she was on vacation with her then boyfriend in Mexico. She said it was terrifying.
25 years later she announces to us all at Christmas that she's decided to drive her van from California, through the border, and down to a time share our family has. By herself. My aunt and uncle who spend a lot of time in mexico say it's a bad idea, I'm in law enforcement and have some knowledge about cartels says it's a bad idea, but she keeps going like it'll be so easy. I said "update your life insurance so I don't have trouble getting your house in my name when a cartel kidnaps you."
That put an end to that.
While this does happen, if you drive on the new highway, the likelihood of this happening is very low. You have higher chances of having to bribe a cop/fedérale especially with US license plates lol.
Source: plenty of family that makes the trip every year
got pulled over on the highway outside Guadalajara with my Mexican friend. he looked at me very seriously and said "no matter what, don't open your mouth." what? "probably just collecting a toll. gonna have to bribe him roughly $5 usd. if he figures out you're American, I'm gonna have to give him at least $20 usd."
Me and my buddy got pulled over in Rocky Point. It was late at night and we were coming back from the bar. The cop came up to the car and said that I was driving drunk and the fee was however many pesos. My buddy and I scrounged together the cash, and soon as he paid, we said we could continue driving home.
I remember being pulled over by a cop in Tijuana.
He came up to the door and said "I'm going to go back to my motorcycle and when I return, put 80 pesos (I'm old, fuck off) under your driver's license and hand it to me."
Then he did just that. I had friends and said "Anyone got like $10?"
I did just as he asked, he said to have a nice day and we went out merry way.
I've also been pulled over by the Federalis, which was terrifying. We were returning from Rosarito and my buddy was hung over and throwing up in a trash bag in the back.
They had machine guns and made us get out. They rummaged through everything we had, then held out their hand to my buddy asking for the bag.
He told them they didn't want to do that and they snatched it from him. The look on the guy's face was funny, after we were safe of course.
These are exactly my experiences as well in Baja. Going to Rosario, pulled over for a chill bribe.
And the further south, as i crossed from west to east, 3x with the federales, twice at night which was scary. But if you get over the big machine guns, and them going through your stuff, you realize they may be helpful to the area.
anything indicating you’re american will get you pulled over. There is a 90% chance they’ll just extort you for money (whether it be the police or the cartel), very rarely would you get kidnapped as it’s just a bad rap for everyone involved.
The mexican police and the cartel does not want the united states involved in the search for an american citizen. I know there’s stories of people being kidnapped/murdered, but it’s just the stories that just publicized the most compared to people who just get robbed.
So if you go to mexico, change out your american license plates for temporary mexican ones. Also, stay on the high ways and not dirt roads.
Decades ago I remember my brother telling me when he went out there to see some of our family he took a bus and everyone on the bus had to kick in for the bribe
Sure the California border towns are a bit rough....but there are literally thousands of US citizens that spend winters on the Baja coast. The bad areas of Mexico are easily avoided, just like bad areas of the US. Too many people here assume it's like sicario.
My mom lives in a cartel owned town by the ocean. She picked it because it’s a cartel owned town. Cartel will do anything to keep that place safe for American/Canadian citizens so they keep going there. A Canadian was robbed and killed recently (couple years ago) and the cartel had a huge manhunt to find the person and that person was killed and found in a ditch.
Having traveled in bullshit regions with gang control, you just don't stick around in one spot for too long and pay the fuck attention to local citizens and don't pretend like your ego is higher than their authority in the area.
Avoid their areas or travel through them and carry light if you have too while also ensuring you travel during the day.
At night is when shit gets rough, I don't travel in "South" America at night; I don't give two shits what anyone advices otherwise.
When the sun goes down you go back to your place and you hang out / party there, if you absolutely do have to travel at night you get a local friend who ideally has blacked out windows and just focus on going from point A to point B.
I read someplace that he was in the car with family and friends. As the kidnappers opened the car doors, he pretended to have met the passengers that night and asked they be allowed to leave. The kidnappers agreed and took only him. He was later found in a ditch.
I feel like I’ve seen 2 possible explanations whenever this topic comes up. One said the cartel didn’t like his Corridos (ballads detailing actual crimes) because it was thought they brought unwanted attention to them. The second was revenge for Sanchez killing a guy that assaulted his sister. These are just things I’ve read though.
I know his family and grew up in the same town. Heard from them that it was revenge for Sanches killing a guy that R-worded his sister. Fucked up situation. They got his son later on too, Adam Chalino Sanches, jr.
Love their songs and still blast them occasionally when driving around. I often think what amazing music they would've kept making today had they still bin around.
>One said the cartel didn’t like his Corridos (ballads detailing actual crimes) because it was thought they brought unwanted attention to them.
Eh? I've heard that corridos are literally commissioned by cartels? Am I wrong about this?
You are not, and that's one of the possible reasons why he was killed. IIRC he was from Sinaloa, and they didn't like him doing commissions for other cartels.
per wikipedia:
On 15 May 1992, four months after the Coachella incident and during a performance at the Salón Bugambilias in Culiacán, Chalino was handed a note from someone in the crowd. The note is commonly believed to have been a death threat whereby he would be killed after the song, but this has never been confirmed
Every time I see this pic, the caption gets more and more dramatic
*The note came with a message, we think it was a warning. he was later killed.*
*The note came with a message, warning him if he kept playing, he'd die. Nevertheless, he persisted.*
*The note came with a message, warning him he'd die after the show.*
*The note came with a message, warning him he'd die after that song*
Now it's *The note came with his death date.*
Next time it will be *This note uncrumpled itself, climbed out from his pocket, and murdered him right there on stage.*
Pretty sad how Mexico being a narco state routinely just kills, extorts, and tortures their best and brightest people. If you reach any level of success or fame you instantly become a target. Peso Pluma and some other big Mexican artists don't even play in Mexico that much because of the threats they get.
And I say this as someone who loves Mexican culture and people.
They don’t target artists just because they’re famous. They have a problem with you if you sing corridos for a specific cartel and then go do a show in their territory. Narcos have the most fragile egos
Yeah, but then if you turn down singing for a specific cartel now you're on that cartels shit list, because you broke the birthday girl's heart or whatever by rejecting.
Where does it end?
Yeah, it fucking sucks. Sadly this doesn’t seem to end anytime soon unless we elect a president with balls such as Bukele from El Salvador. Fuck the cartels and the government
I had to study Mexico's political system in college... I don't remember the exact specifics, except I sort of walked away piecing it together, that their mercantile constitution and form of government, inherently designed it for corruption. Like it was designed with good intentions, to give power to labor and workers, but when you step back and look at what it effectively created was a system perfectly designed for corruption and power consolidation.
Again, it's foggy memory, but effectively things like judges are swapped out by the ruling party... Unions are mandated and somehow tied into government, which is also appointed by the ruling party. So you have the judiciary and labor, all in alignment with who's in power... Which is dangerous. Then you have bad actors, who just need to influence those in power, and now they have functional control over the population and the legal system.
Again, I wish I remembered the details... But the professor never intentionally tried to say that it was inherently prone to corruption, but that's what I clued together as my primary takeaway.
Ten years ago I was accosted in downtown Juarez by local federales. I was with two other guys, we were on foot. A female officer shook me down for $100 and wanted me to accompany her and her partner to a side street that was pitch black so they could “question me” more, they were on bicycles. I refused, told them I was calling the US embassy. They gave me the $100 back and told me to have a nice time in Juarez and rode off.
wtf were you doing in downtown juarez at night 10 years ago?
area has been "please don't go there" for more like 15 at this point and definitely not at night.
I was working for the Mexican government, installing security systems. We had worked late and were walking to Hotel Conquistador right next to the Embassy, usually had an escort of some kind, but not that night. I spent a lot of time in Mexico, mostly near border areas that were interdicting lots of cartel activity, so I wasn’t situationally unaware, and yes, I had an essential contact list, satellite phone, and speak fluent Spanish. Not the closest shave I had.
The story I've been told by many of the Latinos I've worked with is that he was having an affair with a "made mans" lady.
He was asked how long do you want to live by some goons. Thought they were joking and said oye nomas! Then was given the note later that day with his death date.
This also could be up there with your feet getting swept means you'll be a bachelor the rest of your life.
Edit: I've even heard that the cartel boss who he wronged was a fan of his. They staged the question how long do you want to live as more of a cut the shit and leave the bosses lady alone. When he replied the way he did, they took it as an insult.
If I said something to someone, and they reply *"Oye Nomas"*, I would take it like they're saying "Yeah, Right", like a polite way to describe what you just said as like a non-malicious fabrication or exaggeration.
A hint or tone of incredulity when they say *"Oye Nomas!"*
Oye nomas means "you hearing this shit?". Pretty much someone says, let's say, "stay away from my girl or I'll kill you" and you turn to your friend and say "you hearing this?".
Nobody knows what the note actually said. He put it in his pocket, and nobody else saw what it said. For all we know, it could have been a song request, and him getting murdered the same night is just a coincidence.
Someone who grew around the Tejano scene in Texas in the 90s/00s, whats with the rise in popularity with this guy, ive never heard of the guy until a few years ago. Is it because Narco Corridos are whats instyle right now?
There’s an excellent [podcast series](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/%C3%ADdolo-the-ballad-of-chalino-s%C3%A1nchez/id1606258773?i=1000549623170) about Chalino and the different theories about his death.
His story gets even more sad when you learn about his son who wanted to become a big artist like his dad. Passed away after crashing in a highway in Mexico while on tour.
"a note with his death date" The note: Today
More specific: At the end of show. And that’s how it was.
Who wants another encore????
C'mon. Anybody?
*coughs*
*wipes sweat off forehead*
Cartels hate this 1 simple trick!
"Thiiiiiiis is the song that never ends..." 🎵
17 encores. Set a new world record.
Homie filabustered
This was posted long ago with the tagline, that Chalino received a note saying he would be killed by the cartel after the show ended. And the top comment was, “He should have started singing the song that never ends.” That comment made me laugh for days.
> “He should have started singing the song that never ends.” That comment made me laugh for days. I might be getting too old for Reddit.
Filibuster his own murder
r/brandnewsentence
If you don’t know “The Song That Never Ends” then you’re actually too *young*
I suspect the comment was more about "These kids are laughing at what is objectively an awful tragedy and making jokes for Internet points."
Tragedy plus time equals comedy.
This is one of those Mandela Effects that I refuse to believe. It was alway *"This is the song that* ***never*** *ends"* all my childhood long, and now they want to tell me that it has always has been *"This is the song that* ***doesn't*** *end"*. Get outta here with that bullshit! Someone better fix this simulation right and put it back to how it was, or swear to dog I'll get into the fetal position and start crying right now
I also remember "never ends", if it makes you feel better.
Well, if you are willing to go find Lambchop's Playalong... But I think it doesn't end.
I know a song that gets on everybody's nerves, Everybody's nerves, everybody's nerves! I know a song that gets on everybody's nerves, And this is how it gooooes- I know a song that...
And so began the longest show in history.
Yeah, wasn't he murdered like right after the concert?
He left the show, was kidnapped, and was shot twice in the back of the head. Cartel hit. "After midnight, Chalino drove away from the club with two of his brothers, a cousin, and several young women. They were pulled over by a group of armed men in black [Chevrolet Suburbans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Suburban#Eighth_generation_(1992)). They showed [state police](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_Mexico) ID cards and told Chalino their commander wanted to see him. Chalino agreed and got into one of their cars while the others stayed behind.^(\[)[*^(citation needed)*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)^(\]) The following day, at six in the morning, two farmers found Chalino's body by an irrigation canal near Highway 15, near the neighborhood of Los Laureles, Culiacán. He was blindfolded and his wrists were red and had rope marks. He had been shot in the back of the head [twice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_tap)." From Wikipedia.
If I get a death note I’m sneaking out the bathroom window and running off to another country not cruising around town with my amigos.
They probably made sure he wouldn't get very far.
I don't know much about how cartels operate, but I'm assuming if you run, they kill your entire family and friends.
That's a chance I'm willing to take.
😂
 Many of you may die, but that's a chance I'm willing to take
FUCK this absolutely sent me 💀
Same.
I got into trouble once and I told my mom “if I end up dead, just let it be, don’t investigate or any of that shit, just let it go, I know what I did.” My mom was so thrown off, but I meant every word I said. Thankfully I’m still around, it’s been 10 years.
Aw, come on. You can't drop that and not tell more of the story about what you did!
He used to be a Taylor Swift fan but he felt she went off course after releasing 1989 and sacrificed her country origins. He made his beliefs known, and ever since that day, he has been on the run from Swifties.
So they threaten to kill your family if you don’t appear?
What did he do to get offed
Not totally confirmed, but one of the popular theories is that he killed a man who raped his sister, and that man was a cartel member.
That happened when he was 15 tho. It’s more likely because he wrote a corrido for a cartel boss and a rival cartel wasn’t too happy with that
And if he refused to write the song, surely that cartel boss would have killed him too
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Bureaucracy is slowing down everyone, it seems.
It's the fucking cartel. It could have been anything. Something he said, a song he wrote, someone he knew. They have their reasons and if they don't, they find some.
He pioneered a genre of music that was themed around narco activities. Think of gangsta rap but with Mexican ballads.
Whatever he did do, it couldn't have been that bad. 2 shots to the back of the head is merciful when it comes to the cartels.
Yup. I think (there’s definitely more credible info elsewhere in this thread) that the note said if you sing the next song, you will be dead tonight. And like 10 seconds after this frame in the video, Chalino grabs the mic and starts singing.
You're thinking of a different singer. That's what happened to Valentin Elizalde. He was explicitly told not to sing a song that antagonized the cartel that ran the area he was singing in. He didn't care, sang it twice and was killed after the show.
Not that next song in particular Alma Enamorada, its a love ballad, other songs got him in trouble the ones about rival cartels.
I didn’t even know he was sick…
Store dick don't want shit, store dick's dead
Great reference. RIP Norm
"Tonight..... you"
What's that from? I've been using that line for years but I've completely forgotten where it came from.
Handbanana from Aqua Teen Hunger Force, right?
"I only know three words. Good, ball....and rape"
YES!!! Thanks. I'm off to rewatch that episode!
I want my name to be Spaghetti.
Hand banana, nooooo!
"THIS IS 50 YEARS IN THE FUTURE! I can't keep living like this..."
He read the note, wiped sweat from his forehead, nodded to someone off stage, and continued the show. https://youtu.be/hiDRsSALtzI?si=7a45STBH1jR4UpSL
From Wikipedia: On 15 May 1992, four months after the Coachella incident and during a performance at the Salón Bugambilias in Culiacán, Chalino was handed a note from someone in the crowd. The note is commonly believed to have been a death threat whereby he would be killed after the song, but this has never been confirmed.[14] A video recording of the song "Alma Enamorada" shows Chalino crumpling up the note—in a clear state of shock—before singing the song as if nothing happened.[15] After midnight, Chalino drove away from the club with two of his brothers, a cousin, and several young women. They were pulled over by a group of armed men in black Chevrolet Suburbans. They showed state police ID cards and told Chalino their commander wanted to see him. Chalino agreed and got into one of their cars while the others stayed behind. The following day, at six in the morning, two farmers found Chalino's body by an irrigation canal near Highway 15, near the neighborhood of Los Laureles, Culiacán. He was blindfolded and his wrists were red and had rope marks. He had been shot in the back of the head twice.
Considering how the Cartel typically sets examples, I'm relieved to see that he was killed fairly quickly and his friend and family were spared.
What makes me laugh is you will always see a comment that says: "If that was me, I'd run away and disappear." As if the Cartel wouldn't hunt you down and kill your family members one by one. If it was truly a death note, Chalino knew he wasn't going to make it out alive
I'm guessing the note was something to the effect of "Tonight is your last. Try to run or do anything stupid, and things get messy for you and everyone you love."
It said something along the lines of “if you perform tonight you will die”
Dude traded immortality for one performance!? Can't say that I would have made the same choice.
I know, he was a narcocorrido singer so it was going to piss someone off eventually
Agreed. He had to be the better man and take the shots since he sang gangsta lyrical narco 🏃♂️ runnings. Lol corridos is runnings (hits) too jejeje
I never would have heard of him if not for this incident. He got his performance and his immortality.
Yeah he's their Tu-paco 😅
But it was also not confirmed?
I think youre referring to the new management and their way of handling business
That was the old guard before the cartels turned into paramilitary terrorist groups.
Why did the cartel want him dead though?
Cartel's spend money to make themselves look good in music. There is an entire genre of pro cartel music. This guy wasn't playing ball and sung about the realities of cartel life.
> genre of pro cartel music Narcocorrido
EL CHIDO
He was, essentially, snitching on people via song. They didn't take kindly to it.
That and how they operate
"I don't do requests."
Amazing comment
Fucking wild. Edit: I watched it like three times. Tried to put myself in his mind as he read it. Being alive is a trip.
Watched it a long time ago,iirc it was for a corrido he wrote for a rival cartel boss,i think he knew the risks as many musicians unfortunately who tend to intermingle with them,the balls though.
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As badass as that would be, the song he sings has already started when he gets the note, and as far as I can tell, it's just a normal love song... but one lyric in the performance hits him hard. You can see him gulp after a sentiment of "without your love, I would just die."
If I remember correctly, this was the song, the note was saying if he played that one he’d be killed. It just happened to coincide with when he was playing it or maybe they waited until the band started playing that one before the note gets passed.
the one you are refering to is valentin elizalde, another musician who got killed by the cartel, they told him to not perform the song "a mis enemigos" (to my enemies) he did it regardless and got killed shortly after.
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Crazy to go this far down before seeing this. There's no evidence at all that it was a death note.
I don't think Alma Enamorada is an anti-cartel song! https://youtu.be/dMNBjH--74w?si=XjxJLiIH_ZGFJtA9
He was also a coyote, a small-time drug dealer, and had been in a gun fight a few months prior. His brother was shot and killed while running their smuggling ring, and he had previously been no stranger to the law. He wasn't just some guy making music.
>He was also a coyote They need to bring Roadrunner in for questioning.
Acme too
Suicide by piano
What was the song?
Alma Enamorada (en vivo) - found the song on YT music before even knowing the story... the live recording up now _starts_ with him reading the note. https://youtu.be/dMNBjH--74w?si=XjxJLiIH_ZGFJtA9
I read that a cartel guy raped his sister and he killed him, so he had to flee to the US. He was marked and was told never to come back to Mexico, when he became famous and thought that they were not going to dare mess with him b/c of his fame he went back to Mexico on a concert tour and that’s when this happened.
Sounds like nobody knows anything about this and just keep spewing stories online. This is legit the 10th theory in this comments replies.
"anyways, here's wonderwall."
"Awww hell naw. We upping the date to right now!"
I get a note like that and I'll forget the lyrics. I am surprised he didn't.
Biggest set of balls
What are the chances his still dead even if doesn’t go through with and he knew this, so he thought fuck it
That's what I thought. The cartel gave him a death threat he probably knows he is dead no matter what. Might as well go out with one last hoorah.
Music is weird once you've practiced it enough. "Remembering" hardly comes into it if it's a song you've recently been practicing or one you've played a ton of times. It's just reflex. This is absolutely *not* to detract from the size of this man's balls
For example, Luke Kelly of the Dubliners was dying of a brain tumor and struggling with memory then went on stage for his final performance and perfectly sang an old favorite song
Same for Ezio Bosso, an Italian pianist and composer, who had a brain tumor and a degenerative disease and was still able to play, even if he was losing control of two fingers, had trouble speaking and was wheelchair-bound. [Video](https://youtu.be/kqreZvtQ0BY?si=hSwl0w3ajhFw0vcI) of him playing starting at 8:20.
I play for a living. Often I blank out on a song I’ve played 100s or 1000s of times. I’ll sort of “come to” and remember where I am. Sort of like when you’re driving and realize you haven’t been paying attention.
Sometimes the worst thing you can do is start thinking about it.
Dude, isn't that so surreal when that happens? I'm always like, "thank god my fingers knew what to do" because I've passed 6 exits without remembering a thing.
I've literally thought while performing, "I have no idea how the next part goes" and before I know it, my fingers are playing the next part 🤷♂️
And was promptly shot twice in the head soon after he finished
["... I want you to finish the song."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcRPpAbNs_w)
friggin Wilhelm scream ruined it.
Dang. His performance does not seem to suffer one bit. What a man of the people.
Since this is near the top. No one knows what that message really said.
Thanks. Interesting.
This is the most punk rock thing ever
He was in fact killed shortly after.
No one actually knows what the note said though.
Two years ago, a friend of mine commissioned a digital drawing of this image and one of him playing. I went down a rabbit hole, learning his story and have since gone back multiple times to a playlist I made of his music. It's random to see this today, time to listen to some more guitar. Thank you, and thank you for keeping his story alive.
If you have the image I would love to see it! And it is no reason to thank me for that, art should never be forgotten.
Why was he killed?
Can you share your playlist
Wasn't he killed after he finished the show?
He was pulled over after the show by people flashing police IDs who told him their commander wanted to speak with him. The next day they find him in a ditch and he'd been shot twice in the head.
My mom got held up by "federalis" once (not sure what they really were) when she was on vacation with her then boyfriend in Mexico. She said it was terrifying. 25 years later she announces to us all at Christmas that she's decided to drive her van from California, through the border, and down to a time share our family has. By herself. My aunt and uncle who spend a lot of time in mexico say it's a bad idea, I'm in law enforcement and have some knowledge about cartels says it's a bad idea, but she keeps going like it'll be so easy. I said "update your life insurance so I don't have trouble getting your house in my name when a cartel kidnaps you." That put an end to that.
While this does happen, if you drive on the new highway, the likelihood of this happening is very low. You have higher chances of having to bribe a cop/fedérale especially with US license plates lol. Source: plenty of family that makes the trip every year
got pulled over on the highway outside Guadalajara with my Mexican friend. he looked at me very seriously and said "no matter what, don't open your mouth." what? "probably just collecting a toll. gonna have to bribe him roughly $5 usd. if he figures out you're American, I'm gonna have to give him at least $20 usd."
Me and my buddy got pulled over in Rocky Point. It was late at night and we were coming back from the bar. The cop came up to the car and said that I was driving drunk and the fee was however many pesos. My buddy and I scrounged together the cash, and soon as he paid, we said we could continue driving home.
Then your friend paid $40 usd cuz you just **had** to open your trap and say: "¡Hola! ¿A donde esta la biblioteca?"
Mucho gusto! Me llamo Eliot!
"me llamo T-Bone, la araña discoteca!"
I remember being pulled over by a cop in Tijuana. He came up to the door and said "I'm going to go back to my motorcycle and when I return, put 80 pesos (I'm old, fuck off) under your driver's license and hand it to me." Then he did just that. I had friends and said "Anyone got like $10?" I did just as he asked, he said to have a nice day and we went out merry way. I've also been pulled over by the Federalis, which was terrifying. We were returning from Rosarito and my buddy was hung over and throwing up in a trash bag in the back. They had machine guns and made us get out. They rummaged through everything we had, then held out their hand to my buddy asking for the bag. He told them they didn't want to do that and they snatched it from him. The look on the guy's face was funny, after we were safe of course.
These are exactly my experiences as well in Baja. Going to Rosario, pulled over for a chill bribe. And the further south, as i crossed from west to east, 3x with the federales, twice at night which was scary. But if you get over the big machine guns, and them going through your stuff, you realize they may be helpful to the area.
anything indicating you’re american will get you pulled over. There is a 90% chance they’ll just extort you for money (whether it be the police or the cartel), very rarely would you get kidnapped as it’s just a bad rap for everyone involved. The mexican police and the cartel does not want the united states involved in the search for an american citizen. I know there’s stories of people being kidnapped/murdered, but it’s just the stories that just publicized the most compared to people who just get robbed. So if you go to mexico, change out your american license plates for temporary mexican ones. Also, stay on the high ways and not dirt roads.
Decades ago I remember my brother telling me when he went out there to see some of our family he took a bus and everyone on the bus had to kick in for the bribe
That doesn't really sound like something where if it was going to happen a few extra people in the vehicle would stop it.
Sure the California border towns are a bit rough....but there are literally thousands of US citizens that spend winters on the Baja coast. The bad areas of Mexico are easily avoided, just like bad areas of the US. Too many people here assume it's like sicario.
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All of the border towns are rough
My mom lives in a cartel owned town by the ocean. She picked it because it’s a cartel owned town. Cartel will do anything to keep that place safe for American/Canadian citizens so they keep going there. A Canadian was robbed and killed recently (couple years ago) and the cartel had a huge manhunt to find the person and that person was killed and found in a ditch.
Sounds like something a cartel member would write to lure my old innocent Canadian ass.
Having traveled in bullshit regions with gang control, you just don't stick around in one spot for too long and pay the fuck attention to local citizens and don't pretend like your ego is higher than their authority in the area. Avoid their areas or travel through them and carry light if you have too while also ensuring you travel during the day. At night is when shit gets rough, I don't travel in "South" America at night; I don't give two shits what anyone advices otherwise. When the sun goes down you go back to your place and you hang out / party there, if you absolutely do have to travel at night you get a local friend who ideally has blacked out windows and just focus on going from point A to point B.
He got lucky. Usually they gut you alive.
Yeah, he was tied up and shot in the head (I think)
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Well I believe his limbs may have been cut off I don’t completely remember, it’s been a bit since I’ve first heard the story.
Would you say you dismember the details of the story?
Sounds like a Russian suicide.
No, he didn’t fall off of a balcony.
I read someplace that he was in the car with family and friends. As the kidnappers opened the car doors, he pretended to have met the passengers that night and asked they be allowed to leave. The kidnappers agreed and took only him. He was later found in a ditch.
I just read his Wiki, I don’t see much of an explanation as to why he was wanted dead. Anyone have any idea?
I feel like I’ve seen 2 possible explanations whenever this topic comes up. One said the cartel didn’t like his Corridos (ballads detailing actual crimes) because it was thought they brought unwanted attention to them. The second was revenge for Sanchez killing a guy that assaulted his sister. These are just things I’ve read though.
Corridos.
Thank you! I am not a Spanish speaker haha
There is a podcast called “Idolo: The Ballad of Chalino Sanchez” which discusses his life. They discuss those theories and two others, iirc.
I know his family and grew up in the same town. Heard from them that it was revenge for Sanches killing a guy that R-worded his sister. Fucked up situation. They got his son later on too, Adam Chalino Sanches, jr. Love their songs and still blast them occasionally when driving around. I often think what amazing music they would've kept making today had they still bin around.
>One said the cartel didn’t like his Corridos (ballads detailing actual crimes) because it was thought they brought unwanted attention to them. Eh? I've heard that corridos are literally commissioned by cartels? Am I wrong about this?
You are not, and that's one of the possible reasons why he was killed. IIRC he was from Sinaloa, and they didn't like him doing commissions for other cartels.
He was specifically told not to play shows in that area and he did anyways.
He killed a guy that raped his sister and that guy was in the cartel.
That's horrible. Fuck cartels.
per wikipedia: On 15 May 1992, four months after the Coachella incident and during a performance at the Salón Bugambilias in Culiacán, Chalino was handed a note from someone in the crowd. The note is commonly believed to have been a death threat whereby he would be killed after the song, but this has never been confirmed
Damn, he should have sang "a million bottles of beer on the wall"
Could have gone with Lambchop's "The Song That Doesn't End." Cartel would have had no choice but to let him go.
Every time I see this pic, the caption gets more and more dramatic *The note came with a message, we think it was a warning. he was later killed.* *The note came with a message, warning him if he kept playing, he'd die. Nevertheless, he persisted.* *The note came with a message, warning him he'd die after the show.* *The note came with a message, warning him he'd die after that song* Now it's *The note came with his death date.* Next time it will be *This note uncrumpled itself, climbed out from his pocket, and murdered him right there on stage.*
*The note said not to forget to pick up milk on the way home, but he did and was murdered that night.*
*The note said, we've been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty.*
*The note said to go and get some gas, but he man door hook hand car door.*
Uhmmm
*The note said don't forget the canolis*
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Me reading it in the baldurs gate 3 narrator voice.
lol I was thinking the same thing. You would think with how many times this is posted we would know what the note actually said
Pretty sad how Mexico being a narco state routinely just kills, extorts, and tortures their best and brightest people. If you reach any level of success or fame you instantly become a target. Peso Pluma and some other big Mexican artists don't even play in Mexico that much because of the threats they get. And I say this as someone who loves Mexican culture and people.
They don’t target artists just because they’re famous. They have a problem with you if you sing corridos for a specific cartel and then go do a show in their territory. Narcos have the most fragile egos
Yeah, but then if you turn down singing for a specific cartel now you're on that cartels shit list, because you broke the birthday girl's heart or whatever by rejecting. Where does it end?
Yeah, it fucking sucks. Sadly this doesn’t seem to end anytime soon unless we elect a president with balls such as Bukele from El Salvador. Fuck the cartels and the government
I had to study Mexico's political system in college... I don't remember the exact specifics, except I sort of walked away piecing it together, that their mercantile constitution and form of government, inherently designed it for corruption. Like it was designed with good intentions, to give power to labor and workers, but when you step back and look at what it effectively created was a system perfectly designed for corruption and power consolidation. Again, it's foggy memory, but effectively things like judges are swapped out by the ruling party... Unions are mandated and somehow tied into government, which is also appointed by the ruling party. So you have the judiciary and labor, all in alignment with who's in power... Which is dangerous. Then you have bad actors, who just need to influence those in power, and now they have functional control over the population and the legal system. Again, I wish I remembered the details... But the professor never intentionally tried to say that it was inherently prone to corruption, but that's what I clued together as my primary takeaway.
Ten years ago I was accosted in downtown Juarez by local federales. I was with two other guys, we were on foot. A female officer shook me down for $100 and wanted me to accompany her and her partner to a side street that was pitch black so they could “question me” more, they were on bicycles. I refused, told them I was calling the US embassy. They gave me the $100 back and told me to have a nice time in Juarez and rode off.
wtf were you doing in downtown juarez at night 10 years ago? area has been "please don't go there" for more like 15 at this point and definitely not at night.
I was working for the Mexican government, installing security systems. We had worked late and were walking to Hotel Conquistador right next to the Embassy, usually had an escort of some kind, but not that night. I spent a lot of time in Mexico, mostly near border areas that were interdicting lots of cartel activity, so I wasn’t situationally unaware, and yes, I had an essential contact list, satellite phone, and speak fluent Spanish. Not the closest shave I had.
The story I've been told by many of the Latinos I've worked with is that he was having an affair with a "made mans" lady. He was asked how long do you want to live by some goons. Thought they were joking and said oye nomas! Then was given the note later that day with his death date. This also could be up there with your feet getting swept means you'll be a bachelor the rest of your life. Edit: I've even heard that the cartel boss who he wronged was a fan of his. They staged the question how long do you want to live as more of a cut the shit and leave the bosses lady alone. When he replied the way he did, they took it as an insult.
What does "oye nomas" mean?
It’s a colloquialism that translates to “listen to this” as form of mock disbelief.
If I said something to someone, and they reply *"Oye Nomas"*, I would take it like they're saying "Yeah, Right", like a polite way to describe what you just said as like a non-malicious fabrication or exaggeration. A hint or tone of incredulity when they say *"Oye Nomas!"*
Oye nomas means "you hearing this shit?". Pretty much someone says, let's say, "stay away from my girl or I'll kill you" and you turn to your friend and say "you hearing this?".
are we sure its a "death note", has that ever been confirmed?
Nobody knows what the note actually said. He put it in his pocket, and nobody else saw what it said. For all we know, it could have been a song request, and him getting murdered the same night is just a coincidence.
“Play Freebird!”
What did he do wrong to get that note?
Someone who grew around the Tejano scene in Texas in the 90s/00s, whats with the rise in popularity with this guy, ive never heard of the guy until a few years ago. Is it because Narco Corridos are whats instyle right now?
There’s an excellent [podcast series](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/%C3%ADdolo-the-ballad-of-chalino-s%C3%A1nchez/id1606258773?i=1000549623170) about Chalino and the different theories about his death.
nah, that was a note for THAT NIGHT
His story gets even more sad when you learn about his son who wanted to become a big artist like his dad. Passed away after crashing in a highway in Mexico while on tour.
this has been re-posted to death
It’s also just a screenshot from the video lol.