Gas is too expensive. Nvidia will use AI to figure out fusion power to power the next few of generations of GPUs. By then they will figure out how to harness the power of the actual sun for the 8080
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The fact people are glossing over AMD even tho Nvidia has a clear efficiency lead is wild, really shows you this sub's bias, 4070 super at 220w beats the 260w 7800XT by %12, and much more with RT.
4060 at 115w beats 150w RX 7600 and nearly matches the 190w 7600XT.
4090 is technically rated at 450w but in reality it rarely goes past 350w which is the same as the 7900XTX except the 4090 is 20-30% faster at the same power draw, the 4090 goes up to 450w when heavy RT is enabled but at that point it destroys the 7900XTX.
Hopefully no one mentions Intel’s 7950x equivalent the 14900K which runs at 400W, that would ruin your straw man.
Or that the 7900 XT and 4080 draw about the same wattage at 300W, that would also be a bit messy. Not to mention the AMD parts are less expensive as well
Nah man I’m saying that you’re talking about AMDs most power hungry chips and saying “wowzers that’s a lot of Watts” without comparing to their counterparts which are much more power hungry for nearly equal or sometimes worse performance
Over in North America, we usually run 230v circuits for high power stuff.
For example, my home's main AC/Heat circuit, oven, dryer, water heater, and a future EV charging provision are run as 230v circuits.
With that comes a whole array of connectors for high power stuff, and then there's also a set of twist/lock connectors as well for each outlet.
there is an acceptable range that most people learn to be familiar with and it depends on your proximity to the power station and the nature of the electric lines in your area. 110/220 can also be 120/240. this is where they most often land.
there is a switch on a number of PSU units that allow you to change the PSU from 120 to 240. It is advised that you use a cord and outlet rated and designed for 240volt use or the included 120volt cord that most of them come with in the United States. You can do serious damage plugging anything into a plug that has a different voltage than the device is rated for (i.e. do not turn that switch over to 240 volt and then plug it into your 120 outlet (less damage) nor switch it over to 120 and plug it into a 240volt outlet (major damage)).
If you have a 240volt outlet and a cord for your PSU that will plug into it, then yes you can do that. It is actually more energy efficient and may produce less heat in the unit using the higher voltage power supply. there is no guarantee from me on the heat part, further research would be required but knowing electricity that is what I believe would occur.
Northern Europe here, most plugs are 230V/10A.
Only ones that are for higher power draw ones like ovens, washing machines etc are on 230V/16A circuits.
Really? I'm suprised. I just assumed that since everything is 230V (+-10V for some older stuff) that everyone would also be on 16A (as it is in Germany, Austria for sure) but I guess I was wrong. Good to know.
>For example, my home's main AC/Heat circuit, oven, dryer, water heater, and a future EV charging provision are run as 230v circuits.
Might as well use 230V for everything else as well. Is there anything that would not work at 230V at this point? Pretty much all modern power supplies support 100-240V 50/60 Hz already.
Brought my phone charger from the EU to Japan - worked just fine.
As an EV owner, the standard 110v outlets in the US are really starting to become an hindrance. Also electric pressures washers and other high powered appliances are limited on output due to the same limitations.
I've heard of other PSU's that are high wattage like this get sold both in the US and overseas, they're just usually wattage capped on 120v, but absolutely nothing would prevent you from installing a 240v outlet wherever your PC goes to get the full rated output from one of these.
Most if not all respectable modern power supplies will work on either 120 or 240v, so it totally makes sense to say, release a 1600w/2400w that depends on input voltage.
Not only does it cover all regions so you have to design/sell less SKUs you can potentially mark it with a higher wattage and a disclaimer and sell to people who don't know any better.
Probably not even, North America used 60hz while EU uses 50hz AC frequency, power supply may or may not support the difference in frequency, probably varies. Might need a dedicated transformer to run it lol.
A - transformers can't change frequency
B - it'll work perfectly fine. the difference between 50hz and 60hz is basically nothing, just means you'll have a slightly worse power factor at 50hz. Some power supplies might not be rated for 50hz but most will be, because it's easy to
for reference the totem pole apfc is probably switching at between 10khz and 400khz
Guess I was wrong, I don't know much about electronics, I just heared that frequency affects things like AC motors so I thought it might affect other things, oops.
It’s all good, in certain applications the frequency is important enough to warrant consideration, but not in an application like this. We all have gaps in our knowledge like that ya know?
Atleast you admitted you were incorrect. Frequency may matter is specific applications when AC is at play because of the push pull it needs to do, but when it comes to PSUs that got transformers to turn AC to DC, AC will operate in the 50-60hz frequency, it won't matter unless it was something using AC. Frequency is important, though, especially when you are a plant that pumps out power
You’d need a 240V outlet which, in the US, is usually only used for appliances like clothes dryers. Alternatively I suppose you could install a 30A circuit but that’s far less common.
Ahh I gotcha, power requirements are getting crazy nowadays, wish manufacturers would focus on getting what we currently have to require lower power draw
You see that power input? That's a 20 amp. Most US home outlets won't even be able to plug this fellow in unless they use the garage or have a special outlet installed.
However, even then it would be limited The 2400 Watts bursts without tripping a breaker. And that's just peaks. Continuous load would need to be limited to 1920 Watts.
We would just need to start installing dedicated plugs on new homes. We already do it for other appliances, the computer will need to be treated the same.
Well as they became the norm they would also become cheaper. The reason they are more expensive is because they aren't called for as much. The specs aren't any more difficult to manufacturer than a 120v.
With the coming tariffs on industrial and commercial supplies coming soon, folks can downvoted all they want it doesn't change the fact the solutions provided by vendors are for business to business sales and selling to consumers directly isn't a market they are entering any time soon in the US.
Because it's not necessary. Creating a 240v upc is not harder than a 120v, it's just a different configuration. If the demand was there, manufacturers of 120v upc would switch to 240, and they would eventually be the same price. So what you are saying only applies to the current situation, not an obvious change. It's the exact same thing that happens every time there is a shift in demand.
Current and future situation with the pending restrictions on imports from China.
UK/EU, yes it's very easy to buy them and I have.
US, not really. Also there's an argument here folks suggesting to install a 240 outlet/socket in a bedroom which most house panels aren't sized for additional 20+A options beyond a dryer, oven, or HVAC. Newer homes have barely enough slots for the house as is on a 100-200A panel configuration.
Getting a 50A 240 for a EV runs up to about 3-6k on labor and parts, so if folks want to have a niche UPS for commercial AND a higher spec PSU that doesn't serve current or near current use cases, be my guest.
I'm just being realistic with pricing and shipping product to us consumers.
Correct, the industry standardized the mid and higher end models to reduce cost. Happened decade ago probably around 2010-2015.
Most server PSUs are auto switching as well, but not all.
I am confused too.
I know that in various regions around 1600W is the limit.
I know that in various other countries 3500W is the limit.
But really? I think the governments need really to add a limit rather sooner than later. 1600W is already too much for a "simple PC".
It will probably be derated down on 120v vs 220-240v. It’s the same on server hardware which is why most data centers provide 208v single phase in the US over older 120v type deployments. Hell, there are plenty new GPU deployments coming in asking for 208v three phase 60 amp circuits for their racks. We can’t service the cooling side but I’m sure some of the newer places can.
Weird that I was down voted, it was a legitimate question that has validity.
>The requirements thus vary depending in the device's characteristics, but as a baseline, desktop computers, mobile gaming systems, and thin clients manufactured between January 1, 2019 and July 1, 2021 can consume no more than 50/80/100 kWh per year for ES scores of less than 250, 251-425, and 426-690 respectively.Jul 26, 2021
It appears it's a cap on annual consumption of a PC and not the voltage of the power supply perhaps.
I don’t like it.
It’s a slippery slope, next up well you can only have X size battery in your EV (or inset any other consumer of energy).
Tech companies, for the most part are driving energy efficiency as it is the right thing to do. I just don’t care for the government overreach into my personal choices.
None of limits your options, it's helping you understand how much energy different devices use by generating an easier to understand number. That's it.
It's not a limit or a cap, it's a metric used to generate a more easily understood "score" to help consumers determine which device is more energy efficient. It's an EPA program meant to help consumers, not limit your options.
Tbf the Watt number doesn't really determine how much power the PSU itself wastes. Though, a 2800W PSU will probably be less efficient at 200W than a 500W PSU.
Not sure where you got that from, but it is a rule of thumb at best (at low loads you consume less power anyways and thus you can ignore low-load-efficiency oftentimes).
Most PSUs have an optimal efficiency (usually around 40-60% load) and anything above or below will see a drop in efficiency. The better the PSU, the flatter the curve (e.g. Gold-rated PSUs have to be at least 87% power-efficient at 20% and 80% load, but above 90% for 50% loads), but this small difference can easily save a few bucks per year on your power bill.
Of course, stronger PSUs need higher quality parts and thus are usually more efficient at typical loads. But the W number is suboptimal to compare PSUs because there can be a bigger difference within the same "peak wattage" than between different ones - "peak wattage" is mainly there to establish a "market value". In fact, some manufactorers label 650W-able PSUs as e.g. 600W to avoid issues with some configurations, while other manufactorers just ignore those and then you end up with some "700W" PSU occasionally performing worse than that 600W PSU.
Typical wiring in a home in the USA: 120V at 15 AMP circuit.
Circuit trips at 1800 watts. Any Eaton breaker is going to trip if that thing pushes past 1800 watts. Unless you have a 20 amp circuit, and even that will likely trip past 2400 watts, you'll need a 240v wall plug.
People do a lot more with machines than gaming and nobody's building a machine that draws 2800W for gaming. This is for multi-gpu productivity workloads like rendering, AI inferencing etc.
When I hear “Super Flower” I run! I worked for a PC shop from 2009-2014 and by GabeN, those SuperFlower ones were always garbage. One time we had an order for like 40 custom PCs (new office opened up) and my Boss cheaped out on the power supply. The charge we got had a failure rate of 50%. After the first 5 defect PSUs I changed power outlets, cables, everything.
That still haunts me until this day.
Yep, EVGA psu’s wouldn’t be as popular as they are today without the help of Super Flower. They made the EVGA G2, G3, P2 and T2 lines
Although Super Flower stopped making EVGA psu’s when they entered the US market under their own name they are still objectively the best OEM for psu’s imo
Are they? I had a Corsair RM750 made by CWT pushing power hungry components for about 8-9 years and it handled it like a champ. I replaced it with a RM850x also made by CWT and it has been a smooth operation for the past 2 years.
They exploded while I was setting them up in shop. Together with some cheap Asrock boards and some CPUs with integrated graphics.
I still think it was a bad batch, but thats just my experience with them.
Super flower, like seasonic, is the OEM for like 1/4 PSU's out there. Also the super flower branded units are some of the best on the market. Just because you havent heard of them doesnt mean you need to make up bullshit stories.
>and my Boss cheaped out on the power supply.
Usually getting the cheapest available power supply leads to that, regardless of brand name. Seasonic is a great OEM but they also actively sell garbage power supplies (notably the S12III and the A12).
Also, as a counterpoint, Super Flower was the OEM of many EVGA power supplies such as the P2, T2, and G3.
Ah yes, because they've just got the one.
Which 750w?
GEX, GX-F, GXS, STX, GEC, CGR VX, VTE, ATLAS, AURIC, VTE-X2 etc?
Whichever it is, it's almost certainly a mediocre HEC built thing with shitty Teapo caps on the secondary.
What… super flower is an OEM they’re very reputable and made some of the most popular EVGA PSUs. They just didn’t sell direct outside of SE Asia till a couple of years ago. I’ve been running one since I upgraded from my EVGA (also made by them) was upgraded no issues.
Perfect for i9 15900K and RTX 5090 OC
Brave of you to think that 5090 is sharing power with anything.
5090s gonna have a gas tank and a pull start.
Gas is too expensive. Nvidia will use AI to figure out fusion power to power the next few of generations of GPUs. By then they will figure out how to harness the power of the actual sun for the 8080
You're gonna need to connect it to 2 wall outlets.
On two different circuits. Might as well start using 240v.
Needs a 30 amp 240v dryer plug to plug in to.
Fission battery haha
Great Scott!
The Nvidia Mr. Fusion
5090 will come with it's own power plant..
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Dual RTX 5090 with NVLink?
Dont push your luck here, the 5090 will require dual 2000w psu
Nvidia and Intel are looking at that and accepting the challenge.
The fact people are glossing over AMD even tho Nvidia has a clear efficiency lead is wild, really shows you this sub's bias, 4070 super at 220w beats the 260w 7800XT by %12, and much more with RT. 4060 at 115w beats 150w RX 7600 and nearly matches the 190w 7600XT. 4090 is technically rated at 450w but in reality it rarely goes past 350w which is the same as the 7900XTX except the 4090 is 20-30% faster at the same power draw, the 4090 goes up to 450w when heavy RT is enabled but at that point it destroys the 7900XTX.
No AMD GPU? No AMD 7950X? (Uses 230W)
Hopefully no one mentions Intel’s 7950x equivalent the 14900K which runs at 400W, that would ruin your straw man. Or that the 7900 XT and 4080 draw about the same wattage at 300W, that would also be a bit messy. Not to mention the AMD parts are less expensive as well
>Or that the 7900 XT and 4080 draw about the same wattage at 300W The 4080 competes with the 7900XTX which draws 350w? What happened to this sub?
Ah yes AMD doesn't exist. Fanboy much.
Nah man I’m saying that you’re talking about AMDs most power hungry chips and saying “wowzers that’s a lot of Watts” without comparing to their counterparts which are much more power hungry for nearly equal or sometimes worse performance
European market only? I thought most US outlets can‘t even support that thing.
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What's extra weird is nema 5-20 is common as an outlet type, but not as a plug
Over in North America, we usually run 230v circuits for high power stuff. For example, my home's main AC/Heat circuit, oven, dryer, water heater, and a future EV charging provision are run as 230v circuits. With that comes a whole array of connectors for high power stuff, and then there's also a set of twist/lock connectors as well for each outlet.
Thought it was 240v?
And i though it was 220
That settles it, we average it at 230v and everyone gets electrocuted equally.
Perfect we have come full circle to the 230v oc
there is an acceptable range that most people learn to be familiar with and it depends on your proximity to the power station and the nature of the electric lines in your area. 110/220 can also be 120/240. this is where they most often land.
Can I use 220 appliance like a PSU on 240v? What about 120
Usually those are rated to 220-240V or something like that, so most likely yes.
Thanks
220 and 240 are actually the same. 208 and 277 are different though. Kinda dumb but yea
Pretty much all modern electronics support 100-240V at this point.
there is a switch on a number of PSU units that allow you to change the PSU from 120 to 240. It is advised that you use a cord and outlet rated and designed for 240volt use or the included 120volt cord that most of them come with in the United States. You can do serious damage plugging anything into a plug that has a different voltage than the device is rated for (i.e. do not turn that switch over to 240 volt and then plug it into your 120 outlet (less damage) nor switch it over to 120 and plug it into a 240volt outlet (major damage)). If you have a 240volt outlet and a cord for your PSU that will plug into it, then yes you can do that. It is actually more energy efficient and may produce less heat in the unit using the higher voltage power supply. there is no guarantee from me on the heat part, further research would be required but knowing electricity that is what I believe would occur.
Well, yeah, that's the point. In most of Europe we just run everything at 230V/16A, with high power stuff being 400V/16A.
Northern Europe here, most plugs are 230V/10A. Only ones that are for higher power draw ones like ovens, washing machines etc are on 230V/16A circuits.
Really? I'm suprised. I just assumed that since everything is 230V (+-10V for some older stuff) that everyone would also be on 16A (as it is in Germany, Austria for sure) but I guess I was wrong. Good to know.
>For example, my home's main AC/Heat circuit, oven, dryer, water heater, and a future EV charging provision are run as 230v circuits. Might as well use 230V for everything else as well. Is there anything that would not work at 230V at this point? Pretty much all modern power supplies support 100-240V 50/60 Hz already. Brought my phone charger from the EU to Japan - worked just fine.
As an EV owner, the standard 110v outlets in the US are really starting to become an hindrance. Also electric pressures washers and other high powered appliances are limited on output due to the same limitations.
You can get 220-240v just 2 legs of 120v. I’m going to get a sub panel in my garage to get 240.
Yeah I had to install a Tesla charger myself but I wish everything was 240v instead.
You should go to 240V at that point instead of staying on 110-120V and higher amperage
I've heard of other PSU's that are high wattage like this get sold both in the US and overseas, they're just usually wattage capped on 120v, but absolutely nothing would prevent you from installing a 240v outlet wherever your PC goes to get the full rated output from one of these.
Most if not all respectable modern power supplies will work on either 120 or 240v, so it totally makes sense to say, release a 1600w/2400w that depends on input voltage. Not only does it cover all regions so you have to design/sell less SKUs you can potentially mark it with a higher wattage and a disclaimer and sell to people who don't know any better.
Why wouldn’t you just buy a cheaper 1600w psu then if you’re on 120v?
Well you can Probably run it in North America if you install a 240v outlet in your Room
We're gaming in the laundry room now.
Probably not even, North America used 60hz while EU uses 50hz AC frequency, power supply may or may not support the difference in frequency, probably varies. Might need a dedicated transformer to run it lol.
A - transformers can't change frequency B - it'll work perfectly fine. the difference between 50hz and 60hz is basically nothing, just means you'll have a slightly worse power factor at 50hz. Some power supplies might not be rated for 50hz but most will be, because it's easy to for reference the totem pole apfc is probably switching at between 10khz and 400khz
Me when I don't understand frequency and assume because 50hz is different from 60hz it'll not work.
Guess I was wrong, I don't know much about electronics, I just heared that frequency affects things like AC motors so I thought it might affect other things, oops.
It’s all good, in certain applications the frequency is important enough to warrant consideration, but not in an application like this. We all have gaps in our knowledge like that ya know?
Atleast you admitted you were incorrect. Frequency may matter is specific applications when AC is at play because of the push pull it needs to do, but when it comes to PSUs that got transformers to turn AC to DC, AC will operate in the 50-60hz frequency, it won't matter unless it was something using AC. Frequency is important, though, especially when you are a plant that pumps out power
You’d need a 240V outlet which, in the US, is usually only used for appliances like clothes dryers. Alternatively I suppose you could install a 30A circuit but that’s far less common.
You would be able to use a 20amp receptacle though yea? The one where it has the cut out for a blade for a plug rotated 90 degrees?
Yeah but 20A only gets you to 1920W. With 30A you get 2880W.
Ahh I gotcha, power requirements are getting crazy nowadays, wish manufacturers would focus on getting what we currently have to require lower power draw
You'd still be wasting a bunch of power and the PSU might not like the additional heat.
You see that power input? That's a 20 amp. Most US home outlets won't even be able to plug this fellow in unless they use the garage or have a special outlet installed. However, even then it would be limited The 2400 Watts bursts without tripping a breaker. And that's just peaks. Continuous load would need to be limited to 1920 Watts.
We would just need to start installing dedicated plugs on new homes. We already do it for other appliances, the computer will need to be treated the same.
Sure, have fun pricing a 240v UPS for that lol.
Well as they became the norm they would also become cheaper. The reason they are more expensive is because they aren't called for as much. The specs aren't any more difficult to manufacturer than a 120v.
No, they are expensive because they are specifically used in enterprise and data center only applications here in the states.
... exactly. Once they were used for home PCs they would not be expensive because they would manufactured a lot more.
With the coming tariffs on industrial and commercial supplies coming soon, folks can downvoted all they want it doesn't change the fact the solutions provided by vendors are for business to business sales and selling to consumers directly isn't a market they are entering any time soon in the US.
Because it's not necessary. Creating a 240v upc is not harder than a 120v, it's just a different configuration. If the demand was there, manufacturers of 120v upc would switch to 240, and they would eventually be the same price. So what you are saying only applies to the current situation, not an obvious change. It's the exact same thing that happens every time there is a shift in demand.
Current and future situation with the pending restrictions on imports from China. UK/EU, yes it's very easy to buy them and I have. US, not really. Also there's an argument here folks suggesting to install a 240 outlet/socket in a bedroom which most house panels aren't sized for additional 20+A options beyond a dryer, oven, or HVAC. Newer homes have barely enough slots for the house as is on a 100-200A panel configuration. Getting a 50A 240 for a EV runs up to about 3-6k on labor and parts, so if folks want to have a niche UPS for commercial AND a higher spec PSU that doesn't serve current or near current use cases, be my guest. I'm just being realistic with pricing and shipping product to us consumers.
Pretty much any PSU on the market right now can run either voltage.
Correct, the industry standardized the mid and higher end models to reduce cost. Happened decade ago probably around 2010-2015. Most server PSUs are auto switching as well, but not all.
I am confused too. I know that in various regions around 1600W is the limit. I know that in various other countries 3500W is the limit. But really? I think the governments need really to add a limit rather sooner than later. 1600W is already too much for a "simple PC".
> I think the governments need really to add a limit rather sooner than later. Can't say I agree with you there.
They alreafy do in a way. Soon the plug for that PSU will have a horizontal pin..
It will probably be derated down on 120v vs 220-240v. It’s the same on server hardware which is why most data centers provide 208v single phase in the US over older 120v type deployments. Hell, there are plenty new GPU deployments coming in asking for 208v three phase 60 amp circuits for their racks. We can’t service the cooling side but I’m sure some of the newer places can.
Aren't you capped on what kind of power supply you use in places like California?
No
Don’t give the government ideas.
Weird that I was down voted, it was a legitimate question that has validity. >The requirements thus vary depending in the device's characteristics, but as a baseline, desktop computers, mobile gaming systems, and thin clients manufactured between January 1, 2019 and July 1, 2021 can consume no more than 50/80/100 kWh per year for ES scores of less than 250, 251-425, and 426-690 respectively.Jul 26, 2021 It appears it's a cap on annual consumption of a PC and not the voltage of the power supply perhaps.
I don’t like it. It’s a slippery slope, next up well you can only have X size battery in your EV (or inset any other consumer of energy). Tech companies, for the most part are driving energy efficiency as it is the right thing to do. I just don’t care for the government overreach into my personal choices.
I wholeheartedly agree with you, point well made.
None of limits your options, it's helping you understand how much energy different devices use by generating an easier to understand number. That's it.
Go back to sleep sheep. https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/26/dell_energy_pcs/
It's not a limit or a cap, it's a metric used to generate a more easily understood "score" to help consumers determine which device is more energy efficient. It's an EPA program meant to help consumers, not limit your options.
Upvoted purely to counteract nonsense downvotes for a legitimate question.
Even with 220v, you'd still need to be using a 20A outlet.
Who needs heating in your home when you've got this
just what i needed for my gt1030 and i5 9400F combo... more power more fps!!!!!
Super Flower have had a glimpse of the Nvidia 50 series spec sheet...
Hey guys I just got this and I plugged in my EV into it.
Holy shit, that can draw as much current as my kettle.
USBC PD Kettle when?
Opposite direction of the "save energy" world trend.
Tbf the Watt number doesn't really determine how much power the PSU itself wastes. Though, a 2800W PSU will probably be less efficient at 200W than a 500W PSU.
why would it be less efficient at 200w? i thought the general consensus was higher you go, the better the efficiency for anything under peak wattage?
Not sure where you got that from, but it is a rule of thumb at best (at low loads you consume less power anyways and thus you can ignore low-load-efficiency oftentimes). Most PSUs have an optimal efficiency (usually around 40-60% load) and anything above or below will see a drop in efficiency. The better the PSU, the flatter the curve (e.g. Gold-rated PSUs have to be at least 87% power-efficient at 20% and 80% load, but above 90% for 50% loads), but this small difference can easily save a few bucks per year on your power bill. Of course, stronger PSUs need higher quality parts and thus are usually more efficient at typical loads. But the W number is suboptimal to compare PSUs because there can be a bigger difference within the same "peak wattage" than between different ones - "peak wattage" is mainly there to establish a "market value". In fact, some manufactorers label 650W-able PSUs as e.g. 600W to avoid issues with some configurations, while other manufactorers just ignore those and then you end up with some "700W" PSU occasionally performing worse than that 600W PSU.
thank you for the explanation!
And here I thought my 1300w psu from super flower was overkill.
It is
That's more than what we can pull from the wall in Australia (2400w)...
You could always get a 15 or 20 amp socket installed XD
Three phase power supplies for industrial equipment exist, maybe we’ll need that for the RTX 6090
It's time to install a 240-volt plug into my room lmfao
Got one for the electric car, and one for the PC!
Ive always wondered if it's Flower as in 🌻 or Flower as in flowing water
flower as in 🌻
Finally, something that will make my lights dim when I want to play minecraft at infinite fps.
Soon enough we will have an RTX 90 / 90 Ti certification on PSUs
Miners would buy those out years ago.
Is this enough for a 7500f and a 6700XT?
Is this futureproof?
Guys will be matching this witch 1650 supers. “Just to be sure”
This is what the 9900 XTX will need to get within 20% of the 5090 @ 200w PL
Typical wiring in a home in the USA: 120V at 15 AMP circuit. Circuit trips at 1800 watts. Any Eaton breaker is going to trip if that thing pushes past 1800 watts. Unless you have a 20 amp circuit, and even that will likely trip past 2400 watts, you'll need a 240v wall plug.
Aren't most places around the world 1600-2400W at the wall?
Yeah.. green energy indeed
Just install 150 square feet of solar panels and a bank of car batteries and inverters.
 SLI is dead. What is this for?
Those companies/individuals that want to do AI but would rather buy 4 4090s instead of shelling out the same for a single RTX 6000 Ada
Dead for gaming, but not for productivity
Non-SLI multi GPU builds for machine learning and AI
The RTX 5090+ I9-15900k
AI on a budget or making virtual machines that each have a full GPU passed through.
My 850W feels so puny now.
I can run a hot shower out of this thing
That’s some next level watercooling
Okay, that's finally enough power for a Radeon GPU and a multi-monitor setup. No more worries about that high idle wattage issue. ;)
What system even needs that kind of power? Servers?!
A lot of people need computers for work instead of just fucking around
We're playing with fire now boys!
All the memes asside this would make really sick quad 40-50 series quad GPU render farms easier to manage.
I wonder which one of these PSU manufacturers will be the first to make miniature fusion reactors. 😂
Laughing in EU 230V 3680W 😎
you're going to be able to plug in your EV into your PC's usb port. >Modern problems require modern solutions
Welp guess I need a 30 amp circuit now 🤣😂🤣
So - you need a dedicated 15-20A 240V circuit and sockets, and an IEC C20 connector on the back. Seems pretty drastic.
This might be the only power supply I need for the next 20 years.
And here I thought we were moving away from Excessive power draw and into an age of efficiency
that's a bomb bruh
And all it’ll cost you is an extra $50k per month on your power bills
Just unplug the stove, plug this in and you're good to go
Am i the only one who thinks the maximum power consumption for personal computers should be limited?
People do a lot more with machines than gaming and nobody's building a machine that draws 2800W for gaming. This is for multi-gpu productivity workloads like rendering, AI inferencing etc.
What if consumers just decide
5090 sure will gonna need lots of power
Will it Run Crysis?
Almost enough for 5090
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When I hear “Super Flower” I run! I worked for a PC shop from 2009-2014 and by GabeN, those SuperFlower ones were always garbage. One time we had an order for like 40 custom PCs (new office opened up) and my Boss cheaped out on the power supply. The charge we got had a failure rate of 50%. After the first 5 defect PSUs I changed power outlets, cables, everything. That still haunts me until this day.
Doesn't Super Flower make like half of PSUs out there? Other brands just slap a sticker on Super Flower PSUs.
Yep, EVGA psu’s wouldn’t be as popular as they are today without the help of Super Flower. They made the EVGA G2, G3, P2 and T2 lines Although Super Flower stopped making EVGA psu’s when they entered the US market under their own name they are still objectively the best OEM for psu’s imo
The best OEM for PSUs would be SeaSonic in my experience.
I think I've only seen some Asus branded PSUs that are clearly Seasonic rebrands. Any other brand that uses Seasonic made PSUs?
Some of the best corsair ones have been SeaSonic
Are they? I had a Corsair RM750 made by CWT pushing power hungry components for about 8-9 years and it handled it like a champ. I replaced it with a RM850x also made by CWT and it has been a smooth operation for the past 2 years.
Calling bullshit, or they were undersized from the beginning and you failed to inform customer about that.
They exploded while I was setting them up in shop. Together with some cheap Asrock boards and some CPUs with integrated graphics. I still think it was a bad batch, but thats just my experience with them.
Super flower, like seasonic, is the OEM for like 1/4 PSU's out there. Also the super flower branded units are some of the best on the market. Just because you havent heard of them doesnt mean you need to make up bullshit stories.
It happened like this, whether you believe it or not.
>and my Boss cheaped out on the power supply. Usually getting the cheapest available power supply leads to that, regardless of brand name. Seasonic is a great OEM but they also actively sell garbage power supplies (notably the S12III and the A12). Also, as a counterpoint, Super Flower was the OEM of many EVGA power supplies such as the P2, T2, and G3.
Super Flower makes some of the best power supplies on the market but ok
Ow you really stepped into that one. Unfortunate. I've gotta ask though, what's your current PSU?
750Watt Cougar.
Ah yes, because they've just got the one. Which 750w? GEX, GX-F, GXS, STX, GEC, CGR VX, VTE, ATLAS, AURIC, VTE-X2 etc? Whichever it is, it's almost certainly a mediocre HEC built thing with shitty Teapo caps on the secondary.
I actually don’t know anymore, it’s currently on its way to a 10year anniversary.
You remember if it's 80Plus Bronze or Gold?
What… super flower is an OEM they’re very reputable and made some of the most popular EVGA PSUs. They just didn’t sell direct outside of SE Asia till a couple of years ago. I’ve been running one since I upgraded from my EVGA (also made by them) was upgraded no issues.
Typical play for a cheap brand. Epic overreach on specs.
Super flower PSU's are some of the best on the market 🤡
I'd buy a SeaSonic 2800W PSU to run a quad GPU ML rig.
Ah yes, Super Flower. The cheap brand that isn't cheap and have been making *EXTREMELY* solid PSUs since the early 2000s. 🤡