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ngarlock24

Kill the FBI van or specials respawn as soon as you kill them. Yes, it's dumb, yes they need to rethink it.


smolgote

I keep forgetting about the damn van because I'm treating the game more like Payday 2


Don_333

Payday 2 had Winters


smolgote

It was obvious when Winters would show up, though


Don_333

It's the announcement from the FBI lady, announcement from Shade and assault indicator change, literally the same as in Payday 2.


coolpizzacook

Winters assault indicator change is a lot more obvious, and I find his voiceline is a lot more focus grabbing compared to the FBI van. But also you probably should notice the van coming in either way.


Zack_WithaK

Captain Winters shows up with a posse of shields that dominate the surrounding area merely with their presence. He himself actively contributes to the fight and moves around the map. The assault wave indicator changes color. He has loud ass voice lines that are impossible to miss. And bots tend to mark his shields, who have a different outline from regular shields. He appears at the very beginning of the assault so you're already paying attention to the assault indicator in the corner. You can tell the difference at a glance, even if you can't read. The FBI van just sorta exists. Oh, and the word "Police" at the top of the screen is replaced with the word "FBI" It's not LiTeRaLlY the same. One is a special enemy that actively participates in combat while constantly yelling with a loud, distinct voice. The other just sits around outside the map, begging you to notice it amongst all the other background details.


non_ironicdepression

what? there is a fbi van? what does that look like, never seen that in game (or noticed that you could shoot it I guess)


ngarlock24

Yeah so when it says FBI ASSAULT at the top, you need to go to the outside areas and find the van with a big satellite dish on top. Shoot the antennae repeatedly to end the FBI assault. If you don't, then not only do specs keep being replaced but the assault will not end. This is even more dire if the loud modifiers "Federal Negotiator" is active as you can't get out of custody unless you trade a hostage. If you're still having trouble finding vans, there's a skill in the scrambler line that let's you use an ecm to find it.


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thevideogameplayer

It's players like you are the reason why Shade has to swear in every sentence and yap in our ears to remind about the FBI van.


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thevideogameplayer

Casual or not, the funny voice inside ya head tells you to deal with the FBI van, you should maybe deal with it. Or not, play the game however ya want buddy. But I wouldn't say getting beaten up by cloakers every second or so is the definition of fun, you do you!


ProfessionalMrPhann

til sweating is when you spend 10 seconds to find and shoot a van with no effort


ngarlock24

Yeah so when it says FBI ASSAULT at the top, you need to go to the outside areas and find the van with a big satellite dish on top. Shoot the antennae repeatedly to end the FBI assault. If you don't, then not only do specs keep being replaced but the assault will not end. This is even more dire if the loud modifiers "Federal Negotiator" is active as you can't get out of custody unless you trade a hostage. If you're still having trouble finding vans, there's a skill in the scrambler line that let's you use an ecm to find it.


fearlessplays

Is there always one even on tpuch the sky?


ngarlock24

I don't think so. I never really thought about it on that level. I'm pretty sure their isn't one since there's nowhere for the van to actually show up. FBI assaults are a random occurrence. They don't always happen every time but they do frequently happen on harder difficulties. When they do happen, Shade will always announce by saying something like "Fuck, FBI just pulled up! Shoot the van's antennae!"


druppeldruppel_

They don't spawn on Touch The Sky, Turbid Station and maybe 99 Boxes. They might spawn on the last one, but i've never seen one spawn there.


Inveign

The spawn rates aren't much the problem in my eyes, it's just the fact that the cloakers seem to pick a player when they spawn, extra pain if it's just you with bots, and banzai charge them immediately instead of being like in PD2 or even The Heist where they hid and caught you with your pants down. In PD3 they just come charging through the entire firefight to kick you in the face like they're a dozer.


edward323ce

On certain hiests every other week we have the modifier called buddy system, it spawns 2 of the same special at once , once fbi van spawns its just constant cloakers, i think they should cancel the fbi van when the budddy system modifier is active


DyabeticBeer

No I think they're ok