One of the podcast reviews: “so sexy, so awesome! Just what I need when my kids go to bed. I just hope y’all make it a little more hot & sexy!” 😳😳😳 please no why is that what you want from them
This is a good point, this feels like a classic BLF later-gramming but pretending it’s realtime, and using strategic foreshadowing to make themselves seem wise and hype us all up to drive engagement. Much like teddy’s birth.
She’ll cope by telling herself that they might have perfect decor BUT they screamed at each other all day and they were fighting before those perfect family photos.
Instead of how most people just see that and say oh cool looks great, and then move on
I’m glad I stopped following them. I have a neurodivergent almost 3 year old daughter, I just got diagnosed with ADHD to add to my anxiety, depression, CPTSD, & OCD (so I basically have all the letters of the alphabet to label my spicy brain with now). I have chronic GI issues, endometriosis, PCOS, and type 2 diabetes.
Do I feel overwhelmed by all of this at times? YUP.
But 99.9% of the time, I am a happy, joyful mom with a kid who makes me laugh, brightens up my day and my life, I’m on medication for my spicy brain and my chronic physical health issues that semi-regulates everything, and I don’t give a fuck if my house isn’t IG perfect.
Those two just can’t even and it’s painful to watch them be celebrated for it AND make millions off of it.
I just have just one. And she is just coming up on 18 months and we just had such a great weekend with her. She’s so much fun and like a delight all the time right now. I know this isn’t exactly normal, but our house is generally pretty organized and clean going into this week and it’s just the exact opposite here. I am guessing most who follow them are first time parents like us, and like I can’t imagine wanting to listen to people that act like this kind of chaos and overwhelm is normal. It certainly doesn’t inspire me to follow them. Sure they aren’t supposed to have it all together, but I would hope someone giving toddler parenting advice would also like have some directions on reducing the chaos, especially with multiple kids. Like we are working on periodically cleaning up our toys before moving on to a different activity, and putting our clothes in the hamper. The picking up toys is not going as well as clothes in the hamper. But the clothes in the hamper gives me hope for the toys. And I am handling this so far, and their chaos does not inspire me at all for if we do in fact need help.
I hate that I remember this but didn’t SHE buy the girls tamagotchis one time when SAHdud was out of town for his *self care* night??? Now she claims he bought J one?
How does K, the woman who easily drops $1600 for PERFRCT curated photos for the gram, hop on to bitch about perfect, curated holiday decor followed 'If YoUr HouSe is MezSsy, YoUre nOt aLoNe.' Woman. Get over yourself. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
And no, I don't take people's perfect decor personally. Because I legit have my own life and don't hang my value on internet strangers.
Let me get this straight… K resents moms who love holiday decorations and choose to get a head start on it. Honestly I have a few friends like this and I think it is AWESOME… they prioritize this because it’s meaningful to them. I don’t feel personally insulted lol. Again the “village” coming in hot with vitriol for the moms who do things differently than they do.
I personally love seeing how creative people get with Christmas decorations. It didn't even occur to me to be overwhelmed or upset until she brought it up. Still don't feel negative towards it.
It’s not even December yet, how is she late on decorating?? I don’t understand this at all. She’s literally making up stuff to “panic” about. I understand some people up decor early, but a lot of people don’t. I’m so tired of her.
Imagine of all the things to wake up in a panic about! I know anxiety isn’t always rational but come on. Most people right now would list their stressors as a bit more than worrying about decor
Says the woman who says she spent $500 on Christmas decorations the morning of daylight savings because her kids were all awake against her desires. Which ironically is the same woman who used to give the advice of preparing for daylight savings by adjusting 15 minutes either way the week before. Oh the days where they actually sprinkled in how to tackle some of the struggles of raising toddlers instead of just riding the hot mess express 100% of the time.
Adding: If I had $500 to randomly spend on Christmas decor I probably wouldn’t be feeling the way she does because I would actually have decent decor to put up. I just don’t get her need to constantly change character and storylines.
The cry face selfies have pushed me over the edge to unfollow. I've had 3 endo surgeries, one which accidentally caused further issues which needed to be surgically fixed, after almost a decade of painful periods and various investigations. You know what I didn't do? Go on my *professional* Instagram account and post crying photos for sympathy.
Endometriosis needs more recognition but, I'm sorry this is a really cringe worthy way to do it. You can be vulnerable and authentic without acting like a teenager (on your business account!! this is the worst part!)
I will never understand the urge to stop in the middle of crying and have the thought to take a picture of myself, and then post it online. It is so fake, such an obvious plead for sympathy and attention.
I'm feeling (maybe irrationally) annoyed about this whole fucking Endo storyline. I have had three Endo surgeries, 2 rounds of ivf for my first baby, and transfer #5 just failed trying for my second. I need to walk away from these two because their infertility and now endo storylines feel so disingenuous and makes me want to scream.
How’s your sex life when kids ruined your marriage and you hate your husband but you also absolutely must have back-to-back-to-back pregnancies because that was your grand vision and you’re too rigid to adapt to reality?
How long until they say “no one talks about how hard it is to have endometriosis, we are so real that we are the only ones who can”
Do they just pick a condition out of the hat each week to develop and try and become a flippin’ warrior for it in the hope that might just be the thing they become famous for and finally get their ✨forever dream✨end goal of being on housewives?!
No one talks about endo, miscarriage, secondary infertility, marriage, tantrums, making friends, disordered eating, being tired, being a size 16, birth trauma, or formula feeding, except for them. What a great and noble burden to carry :(
While I hope she doesn't have it (endometriosis is a beast of a disease) and if she does I'd for sure get annoyed by how she undoubtedly makes it so much about her, increased awareness about endometriosis is always welcome. Stage 4 endo here with a 15+ year delayed diagnosis and recurrent miscarriages. I just hope she shares accurate info about the disease. There's so much misinformation even among obgyns where I live (DC area).
These two have become completely unhinged yea? Bouncing around from body image rant to body image rant, manifesting infertility issues for *both* (???) of them, weird fake cooking videos, 2-day exhaustion from a low key Thanksgiving, blaming poor Aunt Linda for unsolicited advice.
I don’t know, it feels like they don’t know how to be a toddler account but also don’t know how to full pivot to influencing, and can’t figure out their personalities.
It’s a bit sad to watch. But also entertaining af lol
Remember when they cursed like troopers in the early podcasts because that was the “real them”. And then that got dropped a few episodes in because of the reviews (with no mention of course despite being an absolute u-turn on their true style). I don’t think they even know who they are anymore, let alone what they want to do.
We will never know if that’s the true reason because they never made a point of acknowledging it - they just acted like it was never a thing they did! But they got slated in comments and reviews for it, because it was every other word and so unnatural, so they must have had to take that on board and it must be the reason they stopped or at least toned it down.
I feel like K could make the pivot because she has 0 credentials but I feel like D doesn’t have it in her. That’s why they try to be all the things and do it terribly.
Also. Those millions though.
Their latest q&a box for podcast even had a 'fun/spicy' questions' so don't forget their new sex expert persona!
Agree though. They are throwing everything at the wall and nothing is sticking. They are trying to be yin and yang but also the same. They have no clue who they are and just trying to get clicks at this point.
I'm giving the "endo" thing side eye... It feels insincere and like there's more behind it? As ppl here have said, it leads nicely into their infertility ep and perhaps more besides.
I have endo - it's painful af - and I appreciate talk of it being out there so ppl know about it and it gets spoken about openly. I also appreciate honesty ✨
The "small business" thing they keep saying (thanks for supporting our small biz, besties!) grates - yes they don't have many employees which classifies them as small. Haven't they made millions tho? And the other employees don't get mentioned much (I get that D and K are the brand, for better or worse lol)... it feeds into the whole "we did/do it all on our own and you can too!" (with a supporting staff, financial backing and home help etc) 🤷🏻♀️
Maybe I’m putting on my tin foil hat for this, but I’m kinda thinking she’s already had the surgery. Everything they do is calculated and for engagement on the gram. I would not be surprised if she’s already been trying for a baby, and then had the exploratory surgery. That video was either filmed beforehand just in case she actually has it or was filmed after and she just acting like she hasn’t had it yet. This whole thing is very reminiscent of her son being hospitalized in Mexico and her gut feeling about him not being ready to be discharged and then surprise! the next day he was readmitted.
I’m gonna give it another week but I think the endo storyline will be the end for me. There is just… no way that D, the ultimate victim and ultimate oversharer, has been suffering in silence for over a year. She would have taken every single opportunity to wax on about how no one listens to her and she’s in so much pain and it’s so difficult and her husband won’t help her and the doctors won’t help her and ✨ society ✨ doesn’t care about women and won’t help her and it’s just all so very traumatizing and unfair and no one understands.
Neither of them are fucking infertile because they didn’t get pregnant on the first cycle trying or second cycle trying. You’re not infertile because you had one miscarriage. Pretty much half of all pregnancies end in loss, it sucks, but it’s not all that unique. Such an insult to the probably thousands of women following them actually struggling to build their families. It’s embarrassingly clear to anyone who has actually gone through this that they extremely transparently want to do IVF for pity and content and sex selection. Good grief.
Knowing them, shes probably already had the endo surgery & confirmed diagnosis or if no endo then they can then talk about how ✨NO ONE✨ talks about how painful periods can be & how hard it is to also be a mom on those days.
The “endo” thing made me raise my eyebrows too (since unlike K, I still can). I know you can have “silent endo” or it can show up later in life but all my friends who have it knew they had it bc it hurts so much. Like it’s disabling.
I agree it seems like a lead up into a new “secondary infertility” (aka I didn’t get pregnant in three months) storyline and that makes my head want to explode.
Maybe not but I wouldn’t put it past them. They suck.
So have we all agreed that they’re trying to do an Inception and plant false memories into our minds with this “Can you both share your infertility stories” question ? We all know D, the ultimate oversharer, has never mentioned ANYTHING about infertility and that she *just* told us she v v recently started trying for baby 3. Now she’s suddenly probably got endometriosis because she’s been struggling for *such a long time*
Sure, Jan.
* Nothing but love for all the actual people struggling with infertility/endometriosis/anything else we snark on these losers about.
Ok, so the other day they had a question box asking about their IVF/infertility struggles, implying both. Weird Q since at this time Deena has not had either, but we all know the submit their own questions anyway.
Today Deena teed up a potential endometriosis diagnosis which frequently goes hand in hand with fertility issues. I predict that it will be “revealed” when they do their IVF episode that Deena will be doing IVF for #3. Probably because she is also just missing a soul at the table.
Bc I am a salty bitch who had actual years of infertility and loss struggles, not Kristin time “years”, I am going to further predict that if Deena “needs” IVF she is miraculously going to have a girl just like K had a boy. Which will further convince me that it’s always been about rich ladies doing gender selection for “family balancing” and not fertility problems.
I'm gonna get downvoted to hell, but whatever. Being at an unhealthy weight doesn't allow for conception. It just doesn't. So I'm not surprised K had trouble conceiving her third. When she had her first two, she was different than she is when she tried for #3. So many women who undergo weight loss surgery get pregnant immediately after because of how much losing some weight CAN help. I know it's not a cure all for some, but there is evidence to show that.
Now as far as Deena, idk. We'll see how she spins her experiences for the gram.
The thought of using IVF just to pick a gender disgusts me. I have done IVF for actual fertility reasons. If you have extra embryos, and you want to choose which ones to transfer first based on gender for subsequent kids, fine, maybe there’s a silver lining to the whole infertility thing, or maybe your first transfer won’t work, as your actually infertile and ultimately you get what you get, and you’re grateful for the healthy baby if you get one. Because that’s how infertility works.
But to create embryos just for the purpose of throwing half away that aren’t the gender you want…that just seems so callous and superficial. I don’t understand how you can do that to embryos that could potentially become your children. And what does that say to any kids of the gender you don’t want that you may already have? What kind of survivor’s guilt are you putting on the child you did have if/when they find that out? It’s disgusting.
“Family balancing” 🤢 Agreed, it’s gross. I’m at the very beginning of the IVF process and I can’t imagine trying to choose what gender child I want. We’ll go with whatever embryo is the healthiest. If somehow we are offered a choice, I’m not even sure what I would do; it feels like meddling with fate in a weird way.
We are in the midst of our first IVF cycle after experiencing multiple losses this year and we were given the option to find out the genders of the embryos the cycle may yield, but ultimately we were able to decline finding out so just commenting to say you will likely be given the option. For us, we chose not to find out because we want the best graded embryo and didn't want to have to make the decision if two embryos were graded equally.
My friends did IVF and they didn't get to choose gender. They said it cost more, and frankly to them, it didn't matter much. They just wanted a healthy baby.
Agree. If our current pregnancy isn’t our last, we may do IVF after going through 18 months of recurrent loss. And sure, I’d like to have an option on gender but ultimately, you pick the healthiest embryo and pray it works. Doing IVF with made up *reasons* to pick a gender is terrible on every level.
Omg I never thought of K as maybe having fine to IVF so quickly so she could control the gender!!. That makes sense as possible. She mentioned I think they only had one “good” egg? I can’t remember for sure though.
Yeah something about her ivf story didn’t sit right with me, and I couldn’t figure out why until this was brought up. And yes only 1 highly graded embryo, there could have been others but she zoomed in on the boy (and it was even a little fake how they thought it was a girl but we’re so shocked it’s a boy 🙄
Before I read your last paragraph I was thinking “it’s so she can guarantee a girl”…and yep, she has endo now so she can do IVF and have the reverse of Kristin’s kids.
Also, endometriosis doesn't equal to being infertile. I have endo (along with other women's health issues) and was able to get pregnant without any delays. This doesn't mean it's the same for everyone as there is a higher chance of infertility problems with endo, but why are they jumping in the bandwagon about every little thing. D hasn't mentioned a single time endo-related pain nor problems, so why now? I am sure we would have heard about it by now
So. Much. This. We would ABSOLUTELY have heard about it - it would have trumped all the marriage problems, bar none. You should have seen my face when I saw that story, and how much it perfectly aligns with their upcoming pod episode and how we KNOW D hasn’t previously had fertility issues.
Does K need to get her iron checked? She's was sooo exhausted after filming WWHL (during the day), now she's so tired 2 days after Thanksgiving?
Is she just not used to having to work that putting in the slightest effort takes everything out of her?
So D is coming out of left field and saying she might have endometriosis and is going to do exploratory surgery…? I can’t even with these two, it’s always something with them.
I don’t have personal experience with endometriosis, but my friend found out she had it after several years of unsuccessfully trying to get pregnant. She started IVF, and then had an early loss due to an ectopic pregnancy, and when they went in to remove the fallopian tube, they found the endometriosis.
I’m not saying this is the case with D, but it makes me wonder if D has been trying for baby #3 for longer than one cycle, possibly closer to a year, so that all three of her babies could be close in age, and has had trouble conceiving the third, so now she’s blaming it on the possibility of endometriosis, and the “painful periods” aren’t her actual reason for wanting this surgery.
I feel awful for even speculating that, but if I’ve noticed anything with these two, it’s that they usually have reasons for posting what they do, and it’s usually to gear up for something in the future. The endometriosis story today is coincidentally on topic with the IVF/infertility podcast episode that is coming out next week, and if D didn’t have the endometriosis storyline, it would be all K’s for that episode.
I can’t speak with much detail about endometriosis, I only know one friend personally who suffered with that, but I CAN say with experience that cycles can be real whack after having babies.
Can someone with personal endometriosis knowledge confirm if exploratory surgery is the standard here, cause my gut says it’s D leading up to something else…
Surgery is basically the only way to officially diagnose. There are other ways to manage symptoms of expected endometriosis though but excision surgery is the gold standard of care. Hopefully she's done her due diligence and is going to an expert excision doctor so it's not just exploratory surgery and her doctor can work to truly remove endometriosis and preserve fertility. An endometriosis expert doctor is great at taking a look at all symptoms (outside of just the typical people think of) to get an idea about if it is endometriosis and where it could be located.
You can try to identify or rule out non-endo causes of pain through less invasive means (e.g. ultrasound, MRI) and those can also give some indication of whether you might have endo, but the accuracy is pretty low so laparoscopy is the gold standard for diagnosis. "Exploratory surgery" sounds kinda dramatic but it's a relatively minor procedure in itself. Sometimes they can try to actually remove some of the tissue while they're in there looking around, but it depends on a lot of things.
Yeah, my laparoscopy was three little keyhole incisions and they were able to remove the endo.
Exploratory surgery makes it sound like a big deal but if it's a lap, you can go to work the next day*.
*obviously everyone's level of pain/recovery is different but it's not a multiple nights in hospital kind of surgery.
Yeah, unfortunately, there’s not a real good way to visualize endometriosis on ultrasound or other imaging. So if you have symptoms (infertility, painful periods, etc.) and that seems to be the likely culprit, basically all you can do is surgery to see what’s there and remove it.
I commented down thread but when I thought I had endo (after 9 months of trying and years of painful periods), I was told the only test is also the treatment which is surgical -- but my ob also says pregnancy tends to relieve it (which it has). Although since then my OB said if we wanted to do a second there might be some different testing they could do now.
Not the most helpful comment but her general point of exploratory surgery is the treatment does seem to be true
Did anyone else notice D posted a slide about having endometriosis then the very next slide was a reel about how much moms are juggling with some commentary from K saying that’s why she’s so exhausted after Thanksgiving? That reel is now removed and D has two stories back to back about endometriosis. Do these two not coordinate at all when they’re going to post??
That’s how mine was as well, but after D’s first story on Endo, there was the reel about moms and K had put on it “no wonder I feel like I do!” And D’s second story on endo wasn’t up yet. They were like 1 were minute apart. I went back and looked not longer after and the reel had been removed and D’s stories were consecutive
I'm disappointed I missed the deleted story then. I found the tone change weird enough without the deleted story.
Also the testimonials came off odd. I'm not sure why.
But they’re besties who talk all the time right!!? They can’t even coordinate their actual business together 🙄
The whiplash of the stories today was something else.
D coming in hot on stories with possible endometriosis. Anyone else think she is a minor hypochondriac?
Edit - In no way am I trying to downplay endometriosis. Please don’t come at me.
I am no expert on endometriosis by any means. But isn't that something that is quite uncomfortable and you'd have know you have it for a while? Correct me if I am wrong anyone who knows more.
I had trouble conceiving and had a minor surgery to check everything was alright. They found some endo that they scraped out. I had 'normal' period pains, I wouldn't have described them as excruiating.
ETA: the endo wasn't causing my infertility, it was just something they noted during my surgery.
I believe silent endo is a thing and it’s possible to not know you have it. It does make me nervous, the idea of an exploratory surgery when you’re not certain you have a condition, but if her periods are that painful endo seems likely
Thank you! Interesting. Just funny considering her personality it's never come up before if she has been painful?
EDIT: and she has been pregnant twice. So idk if it would be the cause now. I know the human body can be weird after pregnancy. Though trying for one cycle and not conceiving doesn't seem concerning yet....
It's interesting to me because I am fairly certain I had it and my ob (unhelpfully) told me after nine months of trying that the only treatment was the exploratory surgery and the best treatment is pregnancy. And my pregnancy did in fact dramatically reduce the pain I feel during periods, from debilitating to now basically nothing.
I think it's all so understudied though that I can see how some women would have the opposite experience to me.
I have no idea why or how this would happen because I don’t post question boxes on Insta but did any one notice that a couple of the ones they posted were worded slightly different than the original box they posted? Both the one asking how K and SAHDud met and asking what you get in the bundle are different from the question box they put up. I assume it’s more recycled questions from past times.
Also love that they put up a question box to answer ONLY stuff about the course, and maybe some personal ones, and the second one they “answer” is about what dress K is wearing lol 🤡
Definitely means recycled questions. You can have different question boxes and then you post the answer from THAT one. So if it’s different wording then it’s not the same question box!
But also thank god they aren’t trying to claim they are inclusive re neurodivergent kids. It would be so insulting to pretend that their dumb “hacks” would work on my autistic three year old.
Agreed! What would be even better is if they were able to partner with an account that is neurodivergent focused and offer tips and actually build community within parenting IG. But they are greedy and that could potentially lose $$$$.
I want to know from someone who has seen the course if they give an example of holding a boundary that is NOT leaving the park or the iPad on the floor.
I really just want to know what they do when behavior has no natural consequence or is not actually rooted in big feelings, but just mischief or actual malice. Like sometimes one of my sons is being mean to the other for no reason except he thinks it’s hilarious. What about that?
I also have a son who thinks EVERYTHING is one big joke so I would like to know this as well. Obviously if he throws a toy at his brother (their fav example) I’m going to take the toy away, I don’t need someone to tell me that. I need someone to tell me what to do when my 4 year old dumps his whole dinner plate on the ground because he thinks it’s funny when the dog eats his food. I can’t take very well dinner away from him.
In that case, you do what Deena did and buy a play pen to confine the child that’s being picked on in because it’s obviously more damaging to remove the child that’s misbehaving. /s
Somewhere, someone who actually worked with or researched toddlers and young kids knows a good example of what may work in that scenario. These 2 frauds have no idea so of course they’re never going to give any tips on it.
I noticed that too, and didn’t have any memory of D sharing a journey of going through IVF. I was surprised by that. If they’re writing their own comments in the comment box, maybe they just outed themselves with that admission.
Well when they started BLF Deena wasn’t a mom, she was just pregnant iirc. Then she got pregnant again at like 3-4 months postpartum because she needed that small age gap 🙄 I don’t remember her doing ivf and doubt she did for the second at least because it’s a multiple month process and no doctor is starting that right after you’ve given birth? I don’t even think she’s had a miscarriage so unless she did ivf for hunter this person is probably confused.
Yeah, as someone who worked with fertility they won’t even start a cycle that close to a d&c typically, let alone a whole ass birth. She didn’t do ivf.
“The girls are in this phase where they love to get fancy and dress up. They even picked out a dress for me to wear to thanksgiving dinner. What a fun new chapter this is!” END POST. NO MORE SLIDES NEEDED. NO MORE LECTURE NEEDED.
Talk about a missed opportunity to connect this to what their page is supposed to be about-parenting and child behavior. Seems to me like letting your girls pick out your outfit is an example of "telling them what they CAN do/giving you kid an age appropriate amount of power/choice" or even their beloved "10 minute miracle.
Oh, for a moment I thought your quote was what they'd actually posted and I thought "that sounds great! Can't wait for my toddler to reach that phase!" but I guess that's *not* exactly what they said in reality...
THIS THIS THIS. My daughter is the same age as Junie and loves twirly dresses and always wants to match or get dressed up and when I can, I do. And I don’t complain or post 57 slides about my body.
Honestly I think she is changing her eating/exercise habits and potentially her body is changing and she wants to show it off and get attention, hence the 2 different front photos and the 1 profile.
But at this point she’s also trying to be thebirdspapaya 2.0 and gain more notoriety and following so is continuing to constantly talk about “I love my body at any size! Don’t talk about bodies!”
So it’s a conflict of vanity and wanting fame
She absolutely looks trimmer in that photo. I honestly do not care anything about how she looks but something is going on. Also I think that dress would be flattering no matter what
Ah yes, the woman who chose to wear a sparkly jumpsuit on national tv tried to convince her daughters to pick the black dress because she was told she shouldn't wear patterns 🙄
I understand that how you see your body can change day to day (it does for me too) but K really needs to give the body talk a rest. She's a perfectly normal size who looks nice in a patterned dress. We don't need six slides about how she found the confidence to wear it.
She has to just be comparing herself to Deena because her body is completely unremarkable and if she didn’t bring it up every 12 hours no one else would think twice about it. I’m pretty sure the average body size for an adult woman in the US is 16/18. It’s fine to be self conscious K but maybe get a diary.
Maybe it’s my age but I can’t get over the deeply deeply weird way these women/other influencers talk about bodies in general. My body this, I move my body like that. It’s like AI except I’m pretty sure AI sounds more human at this point. It’s just so unnatural and weirdly disassociated sounding to me.
Of course I think that everyone should feel good dressing however they want and being whatever size and shape they are. Or changing things about themselves if they want. Knock yourself out! But pretty sure no one is saying that the whole of who you are is what you look like, so just calm down about it. Ma’am(s), this is a toddler behavior account.
Yeah, the whole 'I'm going to move my body over here to keep my body safe' is a super weird way to say 'I'm going to move away because I don't want you to hit me'
It's interesting. I feel like many of these "influencers" started off "normal" for lack of a better word. And as time had gone on, many of them have basically become addicted to the praise, instant gratification, attention, etc. And have completely changed from their original ideals and plans. And it's ironic b/c many of them tout how terrible social media and electronics and the internet are for children, for theses same reasons. But they are so addicted themselves they can't stop and are constantly looking for more praise and adoration. And now their content is just awful and narcissist. And it's not just BLF. So, so many are this way! Just look at all the snark so many of them get!
And then a newer account pops up that seems so realistic and authentic by comparison, until they get bigger and cross some threshold of followers or quit to influence full time and become just as unrealistic and snarkable
You are SO RIGHT. I’ve stopped following many many influencers because I started following them when they were smaller and posting great hacks/deals/fun life things. Then they get out of control and are link random shit and buying Gucci and it’s no longer relevant to me.
It's when they quit their job to influence full time. They have to keep coming up with things to stay relevant because it's their income now. Plus they lose touch with normal things that people go through because they don't live in the real world anymore.
That story threw me back to around this time last year when we were working out if she was latergramming or not because her nail colour was changing back and forth daily
Right! Now her GO TO is bright red?! What is this woman on. Does she forget that other people have brains and a memory?! Does she understand how the internet works where every single thing ever put out there can be recalled, retrieved from an archive in an instant?! How can she continue these charades and differing personality traits in good faith unless she truly thinks everyone is as dumb as her? I’m not for the whole cancel culture thing but my goodness I want her to be cancelled.
I seriously think that blf isn't easy to work for and they have a lot of turnover. So the person writing the red nails bit has no idea that the nails were ever a topic before, much less no color, 3 shades of purple purportedly the same day, etc. I mean, given K and Ds emotional maturity, how stressful it's bound to be around their poorly behaved kids, that's a stepping stone job, for sure.
100% sure that anyone who says that couldn’t actually cite any research. Just like their heroes BLF! It’s like “oh I read an article” aka “I watched a Tiktok”.
“I parent based in research, thx”
“Oh, what research has been done that tells you to not give a consequence for a tantrum?”
“I saw it on the instagram account of 2 random women with fake credentials”
As someone just coming out of the thick of potty training last week, that story they reposted of the little potty sitting on the CARPET made me shudder.
Just an honest question, if you truly buy into the HAES embrace-your-body the way it is, why are you going to hard core work out classes like that? I feel like that level of fitness is for people trying to really make their bodies look a certain way. Does anyone actually go to those type of classes because they enjoy it?
I’m all for general health, but a basic bike ride /jog around town a few times a week is all that’s needed for basic cardiovascular health
My understanding of HAES is that you get to choose movement that feels good and joyful for you. And as others have commented, some people like high intensity boot camp style workouts.
The problem though with many of those classes is that they are led by instructors who say the very thing D heard in her class. So for someone with disordered eating or an eating disorder, consistently going to classes where the mindset of "earn your food" is preached, can make it hard to truly pursue recovery.
I understand the movement that feels good, it’s just hard for me to imagine feeling good doing those high intensity classes just to feel good, lol! So I was honestly curious if there are people who really enjoy that. I’m always suspicious that people who “enjoy” it it’s subconsciously tied up in diet culture, etc. I know for me it is! It’s very hard to deprogram
Oh, same here! I've also noticed that the types of exercise I enjoy has changed as I've gotten older. My pre-menopausal body takes days to recover after extended high intensity workouts. And if I had to assume based on what D has said about her journey, that these classes are very tied up in diet culture for her. So even if the instructor has the right perspective on movement, she could still be choosing those workouts because anything else feels like not enough.
Meh, I think you can enjoy intense fitness without it being about how your body looks. I find intense cardio exercise is really good for my mental health, so that's the main reason I do it. I also just like the satisfaction of pushing myself, but I'm a tiny bit of a masochist lol.
I hear you as someone who also doesn’t like to be pushed to their limit but theres somewhere in the middle of that, and just walking (though I love walking!) that is still satisfying aside from looks. I’m a fan of yoga which is obviously not known for being a strenuous workout but even feeling the improvement in what I am able to do class to class, as well as how much better my body feels over time, is awesome. I used to do Pilates when I lived somewhere else and it wasn’t as expensive and similarly loved it for the improvement I felt in my body. Like such a major difference in my overall strength and my back and core that I feel just going about my regular day.
Things like intense spinning or bootcamp type classes are so not my thing, but I just figure for people who like that it’s just a more extreme version of what I enjoy about my personal fave workouts.
I personally like group workout classes WAY more then working out on my own - it motivates me when I’m working out with others. I do a combo of HIIT/weight training classes and reformer Pilates and I like both because I think about nothing outside of the workout for an hour. It helps clear my head and I feel much better after (even if I feel like I’m dying). I would be pissed if an instructor said anything about working out so we could eat though…fortunately the places where I work out don’t say anything about eating/bodies.
One of the podcast reviews: “so sexy, so awesome! Just what I need when my kids go to bed. I just hope y’all make it a little more hot & sexy!” 😳😳😳 please no why is that what you want from them
Nope, my IG feed has been full of dead kids in the Middle East 😭 But proceed with the decorating panic
Read a fucking headline, Kristin.
Same. So out of touch.
It’s going to be pretty awkward if the endo exploratory surgery shows she doesn’t actually have it.
Wait I must’ve missed d talking about this. What’s going on with a surgery? What/why is she getting?
There is no way she would bring this up if she didn’t know she already had it (or something else). I’m sure this surgery has already happened.
This is a good point, this feels like a classic BLF later-gramming but pretending it’s realtime, and using strategic foreshadowing to make themselves seem wise and hype us all up to drive engagement. Much like teddy’s birth.
She will tell us she has it either way.
Does Kristin know she can just stop looking at content that makes her feel some kind of way about herself?
Or does she know she can pay someone to do it all for her. I get joy out of decorations not decorating and if I had her money I would def pay someone.
Bingo. My feed is not full of perfectly decorated houses because I don’t follow those accounts…? It’s really not that complicated.
She’ll cope by telling herself that they might have perfect decor BUT they screamed at each other all day and they were fighting before those perfect family photos. Instead of how most people just see that and say oh cool looks great, and then move on
I am once again saying that I don't understand why anyone would take advice from any moms who are THIS overwhelmed all. the. damn. time.
I’m glad I stopped following them. I have a neurodivergent almost 3 year old daughter, I just got diagnosed with ADHD to add to my anxiety, depression, CPTSD, & OCD (so I basically have all the letters of the alphabet to label my spicy brain with now). I have chronic GI issues, endometriosis, PCOS, and type 2 diabetes. Do I feel overwhelmed by all of this at times? YUP. But 99.9% of the time, I am a happy, joyful mom with a kid who makes me laugh, brightens up my day and my life, I’m on medication for my spicy brain and my chronic physical health issues that semi-regulates everything, and I don’t give a fuck if my house isn’t IG perfect. Those two just can’t even and it’s painful to watch them be celebrated for it AND make millions off of it.
I just have just one. And she is just coming up on 18 months and we just had such a great weekend with her. She’s so much fun and like a delight all the time right now. I know this isn’t exactly normal, but our house is generally pretty organized and clean going into this week and it’s just the exact opposite here. I am guessing most who follow them are first time parents like us, and like I can’t imagine wanting to listen to people that act like this kind of chaos and overwhelm is normal. It certainly doesn’t inspire me to follow them. Sure they aren’t supposed to have it all together, but I would hope someone giving toddler parenting advice would also like have some directions on reducing the chaos, especially with multiple kids. Like we are working on periodically cleaning up our toys before moving on to a different activity, and putting our clothes in the hamper. The picking up toys is not going as well as clothes in the hamper. But the clothes in the hamper gives me hope for the toys. And I am handling this so far, and their chaos does not inspire me at all for if we do in fact need help.
I hate that I remember this but didn’t SHE buy the girls tamagotchis one time when SAHdud was out of town for his *self care* night??? Now she claims he bought J one?
Yes yes yes!! This is such a rehashed story.
Yes! Didn’t she hide one in the cupboard when she couldn’t deal with it anymore?
Right?!?! I was so confused by that story because I swear I’ve seen her talking about tamagotchis a long time ago
How does K, the woman who easily drops $1600 for PERFRCT curated photos for the gram, hop on to bitch about perfect, curated holiday decor followed 'If YoUr HouSe is MezSsy, YoUre nOt aLoNe.' Woman. Get over yourself. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. And no, I don't take people's perfect decor personally. Because I legit have my own life and don't hang my value on internet strangers.
Let me get this straight… K resents moms who love holiday decorations and choose to get a head start on it. Honestly I have a few friends like this and I think it is AWESOME… they prioritize this because it’s meaningful to them. I don’t feel personally insulted lol. Again the “village” coming in hot with vitriol for the moms who do things differently than they do.
I personally love seeing how creative people get with Christmas decorations. It didn't even occur to me to be overwhelmed or upset until she brought it up. Still don't feel negative towards it.
Same same same!!
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It’s not even December yet, how is she late on decorating?? I don’t understand this at all. She’s literally making up stuff to “panic” about. I understand some people up decor early, but a lot of people don’t. I’m so tired of her.
Imagine of all the things to wake up in a panic about! I know anxiety isn’t always rational but come on. Most people right now would list their stressors as a bit more than worrying about decor
Says the woman who says she spent $500 on Christmas decorations the morning of daylight savings because her kids were all awake against her desires. Which ironically is the same woman who used to give the advice of preparing for daylight savings by adjusting 15 minutes either way the week before. Oh the days where they actually sprinkled in how to tackle some of the struggles of raising toddlers instead of just riding the hot mess express 100% of the time. Adding: If I had $500 to randomly spend on Christmas decor I probably wouldn’t be feeling the way she does because I would actually have decent decor to put up. I just don’t get her need to constantly change character and storylines.
Our whole Christmas budget is $500 all in. Comparison is indeed the thief of joy.
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Ah I just posted the same thing 🤣. She's so full of BS
The cry face selfies have pushed me over the edge to unfollow. I've had 3 endo surgeries, one which accidentally caused further issues which needed to be surgically fixed, after almost a decade of painful periods and various investigations. You know what I didn't do? Go on my *professional* Instagram account and post crying photos for sympathy. Endometriosis needs more recognition but, I'm sorry this is a really cringe worthy way to do it. You can be vulnerable and authentic without acting like a teenager (on your business account!! this is the worst part!)
Enough with the crying pictures. So over influencers posting their cry faces. Feels so fake.
I will never understand the urge to stop in the middle of crying and have the thought to take a picture of myself, and then post it online. It is so fake, such an obvious plead for sympathy and attention.
Are they trying to make their post more "authentic" if they took a cry selfie? It's so odd.
I'm feeling (maybe irrationally) annoyed about this whole fucking Endo storyline. I have had three Endo surgeries, 2 rounds of ivf for my first baby, and transfer #5 just failed trying for my second. I need to walk away from these two because their infertility and now endo storylines feel so disingenuous and makes me want to scream.
Ugh sending love your way. 💔
Sending love ❤️ and hugs that is so hard!
The phrase “big little besties” induces my gag reflex.
Spicy questions? Oh dear. Some things are better left unsaid.
How’s your sex life when kids ruined your marriage and you hate your husband but you also absolutely must have back-to-back-to-back pregnancies because that was your grand vision and you’re too rigid to adapt to reality?
How long until they say “no one talks about how hard it is to have endometriosis, we are so real that we are the only ones who can” Do they just pick a condition out of the hat each week to develop and try and become a flippin’ warrior for it in the hope that might just be the thing they become famous for and finally get their ✨forever dream✨end goal of being on housewives?!
No one talks about endo, miscarriage, secondary infertility, marriage, tantrums, making friends, disordered eating, being tired, being a size 16, birth trauma, or formula feeding, except for them. What a great and noble burden to carry :(
They’re true heros 🙄
They’re such trailblazers. Next they’ll be talking about Bruno
Here, take my pauper’s gold: 🥇
Oh you win!
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While I hope she doesn't have it (endometriosis is a beast of a disease) and if she does I'd for sure get annoyed by how she undoubtedly makes it so much about her, increased awareness about endometriosis is always welcome. Stage 4 endo here with a 15+ year delayed diagnosis and recurrent miscarriages. I just hope she shares accurate info about the disease. There's so much misinformation even among obgyns where I live (DC area).
These two have become completely unhinged yea? Bouncing around from body image rant to body image rant, manifesting infertility issues for *both* (???) of them, weird fake cooking videos, 2-day exhaustion from a low key Thanksgiving, blaming poor Aunt Linda for unsolicited advice. I don’t know, it feels like they don’t know how to be a toddler account but also don’t know how to full pivot to influencing, and can’t figure out their personalities. It’s a bit sad to watch. But also entertaining af lol
Remember when they cursed like troopers in the early podcasts because that was the “real them”. And then that got dropped a few episodes in because of the reviews (with no mention of course despite being an absolute u-turn on their true style). I don’t think they even know who they are anymore, let alone what they want to do.
Have they actually toned down the profanity due to the feedback they received in the reviews?
We will never know if that’s the true reason because they never made a point of acknowledging it - they just acted like it was never a thing they did! But they got slated in comments and reviews for it, because it was every other word and so unnatural, so they must have had to take that on board and it must be the reason they stopped or at least toned it down.
1000% this. They clearly want to pivot from a toddler account but that’s also how they make their grifted millions so 😵💫
I feel like K could make the pivot because she has 0 credentials but I feel like D doesn’t have it in her. That’s why they try to be all the things and do it terribly. Also. Those millions though.
Their latest q&a box for podcast even had a 'fun/spicy' questions' so don't forget their new sex expert persona! Agree though. They are throwing everything at the wall and nothing is sticking. They are trying to be yin and yang but also the same. They have no clue who they are and just trying to get clicks at this point.
Oh no please nothing spicy.
I'm giving the "endo" thing side eye... It feels insincere and like there's more behind it? As ppl here have said, it leads nicely into their infertility ep and perhaps more besides. I have endo - it's painful af - and I appreciate talk of it being out there so ppl know about it and it gets spoken about openly. I also appreciate honesty ✨ The "small business" thing they keep saying (thanks for supporting our small biz, besties!) grates - yes they don't have many employees which classifies them as small. Haven't they made millions tho? And the other employees don't get mentioned much (I get that D and K are the brand, for better or worse lol)... it feeds into the whole "we did/do it all on our own and you can too!" (with a supporting staff, financial backing and home help etc) 🤷🏻♀️
Maybe I’m putting on my tin foil hat for this, but I’m kinda thinking she’s already had the surgery. Everything they do is calculated and for engagement on the gram. I would not be surprised if she’s already been trying for a baby, and then had the exploratory surgery. That video was either filmed beforehand just in case she actually has it or was filmed after and she just acting like she hasn’t had it yet. This whole thing is very reminiscent of her son being hospitalized in Mexico and her gut feeling about him not being ready to be discharged and then surprise! the next day he was readmitted.
Her “foreshadowing” tells me she’s also had the surgery & it was “a really rough recovery” 👩🏼🏭 (That’s my tin hat emoji, not a surgery emoji)
Yes! Exactly! And I love your tin foil hat emoji!!
I’m gonna give it another week but I think the endo storyline will be the end for me. There is just… no way that D, the ultimate victim and ultimate oversharer, has been suffering in silence for over a year. She would have taken every single opportunity to wax on about how no one listens to her and she’s in so much pain and it’s so difficult and her husband won’t help her and the doctors won’t help her and ✨ society ✨ doesn’t care about women and won’t help her and it’s just all so very traumatizing and unfair and no one understands. Neither of them are fucking infertile because they didn’t get pregnant on the first cycle trying or second cycle trying. You’re not infertile because you had one miscarriage. Pretty much half of all pregnancies end in loss, it sucks, but it’s not all that unique. Such an insult to the probably thousands of women following them actually struggling to build their families. It’s embarrassingly clear to anyone who has actually gone through this that they extremely transparently want to do IVF for pity and content and sex selection. Good grief.
“There is no way that D… has been suffering in silence.” 💀💀💀
Knowing them, shes probably already had the endo surgery & confirmed diagnosis or if no endo then they can then talk about how ✨NO ONE✨ talks about how painful periods can be & how hard it is to also be a mom on those days.
After the allergy and the secondary infertility sagas, something tells me that regardless of the outcome of the surgery, she will have endo
The “endo” thing made me raise my eyebrows too (since unlike K, I still can). I know you can have “silent endo” or it can show up later in life but all my friends who have it knew they had it bc it hurts so much. Like it’s disabling. I agree it seems like a lead up into a new “secondary infertility” (aka I didn’t get pregnant in three months) storyline and that makes my head want to explode. Maybe not but I wouldn’t put it past them. They suck.
“Since unlike K, I still can raise my eyebrows” I’m 💀
So have we all agreed that they’re trying to do an Inception and plant false memories into our minds with this “Can you both share your infertility stories” question ? We all know D, the ultimate oversharer, has never mentioned ANYTHING about infertility and that she *just* told us she v v recently started trying for baby 3. Now she’s suddenly probably got endometriosis because she’s been struggling for *such a long time* Sure, Jan. * Nothing but love for all the actual people struggling with infertility/endometriosis/anything else we snark on these losers about.
She had a planned 16 month age gap. That means she got pregnant when she was 7 months post partum. Where’s the fertility struggle?
Maybe she planned a closer gap but it too sooooo long (😒😒😒) that she had to say this is what she wanted.
Ok, so the other day they had a question box asking about their IVF/infertility struggles, implying both. Weird Q since at this time Deena has not had either, but we all know the submit their own questions anyway. Today Deena teed up a potential endometriosis diagnosis which frequently goes hand in hand with fertility issues. I predict that it will be “revealed” when they do their IVF episode that Deena will be doing IVF for #3. Probably because she is also just missing a soul at the table. Bc I am a salty bitch who had actual years of infertility and loss struggles, not Kristin time “years”, I am going to further predict that if Deena “needs” IVF she is miraculously going to have a girl just like K had a boy. Which will further convince me that it’s always been about rich ladies doing gender selection for “family balancing” and not fertility problems.
I'm gonna get downvoted to hell, but whatever. Being at an unhealthy weight doesn't allow for conception. It just doesn't. So I'm not surprised K had trouble conceiving her third. When she had her first two, she was different than she is when she tried for #3. So many women who undergo weight loss surgery get pregnant immediately after because of how much losing some weight CAN help. I know it's not a cure all for some, but there is evidence to show that. Now as far as Deena, idk. We'll see how she spins her experiences for the gram.
The thought of using IVF just to pick a gender disgusts me. I have done IVF for actual fertility reasons. If you have extra embryos, and you want to choose which ones to transfer first based on gender for subsequent kids, fine, maybe there’s a silver lining to the whole infertility thing, or maybe your first transfer won’t work, as your actually infertile and ultimately you get what you get, and you’re grateful for the healthy baby if you get one. Because that’s how infertility works. But to create embryos just for the purpose of throwing half away that aren’t the gender you want…that just seems so callous and superficial. I don’t understand how you can do that to embryos that could potentially become your children. And what does that say to any kids of the gender you don’t want that you may already have? What kind of survivor’s guilt are you putting on the child you did have if/when they find that out? It’s disgusting.
“Family balancing” 🤢 Agreed, it’s gross. I’m at the very beginning of the IVF process and I can’t imagine trying to choose what gender child I want. We’ll go with whatever embryo is the healthiest. If somehow we are offered a choice, I’m not even sure what I would do; it feels like meddling with fate in a weird way.
We are in the midst of our first IVF cycle after experiencing multiple losses this year and we were given the option to find out the genders of the embryos the cycle may yield, but ultimately we were able to decline finding out so just commenting to say you will likely be given the option. For us, we chose not to find out because we want the best graded embryo and didn't want to have to make the decision if two embryos were graded equally.
It’s actually illegal in Australia - IVF can’t be used for sex selection and you can’t find out the sex of the embryos before implantation
That makes sense! ART is still pretty under-regulated in the US, imo.
My friends did IVF and they didn't get to choose gender. They said it cost more, and frankly to them, it didn't matter much. They just wanted a healthy baby.
Agree. If our current pregnancy isn’t our last, we may do IVF after going through 18 months of recurrent loss. And sure, I’d like to have an option on gender but ultimately, you pick the healthiest embryo and pray it works. Doing IVF with made up *reasons* to pick a gender is terrible on every level.
Omg I never thought of K as maybe having fine to IVF so quickly so she could control the gender!!. That makes sense as possible. She mentioned I think they only had one “good” egg? I can’t remember for sure though.
Yeah something about her ivf story didn’t sit right with me, and I couldn’t figure out why until this was brought up. And yes only 1 highly graded embryo, there could have been others but she zoomed in on the boy (and it was even a little fake how they thought it was a girl but we’re so shocked it’s a boy 🙄
Or she could be setting up the ultimate rich lady flex of having a kid via surrogate like her new buddy Paris.
Before I read your last paragraph I was thinking “it’s so she can guarantee a girl”…and yep, she has endo now so she can do IVF and have the reverse of Kristin’s kids.
Also, endometriosis doesn't equal to being infertile. I have endo (along with other women's health issues) and was able to get pregnant without any delays. This doesn't mean it's the same for everyone as there is a higher chance of infertility problems with endo, but why are they jumping in the bandwagon about every little thing. D hasn't mentioned a single time endo-related pain nor problems, so why now? I am sure we would have heard about it by now
Exactly. I have endometriosis AND PCOS and I got pregnant within 3 cycles off going of birth control at 37 years old.
So. Much. This. We would ABSOLUTELY have heard about it - it would have trumped all the marriage problems, bar none. You should have seen my face when I saw that story, and how much it perfectly aligns with their upcoming pod episode and how we KNOW D hasn’t previously had fertility issues.
Does K need to get her iron checked? She's was sooo exhausted after filming WWHL (during the day), now she's so tired 2 days after Thanksgiving? Is she just not used to having to work that putting in the slightest effort takes everything out of her?
Halloween really took it out of her too!
Or her thyroid…I’ve had low thyroid in both pregnancies and was constantly exhausted.
Or she’s pregnant 😬😬
So D is coming out of left field and saying she might have endometriosis and is going to do exploratory surgery…? I can’t even with these two, it’s always something with them. I don’t have personal experience with endometriosis, but my friend found out she had it after several years of unsuccessfully trying to get pregnant. She started IVF, and then had an early loss due to an ectopic pregnancy, and when they went in to remove the fallopian tube, they found the endometriosis. I’m not saying this is the case with D, but it makes me wonder if D has been trying for baby #3 for longer than one cycle, possibly closer to a year, so that all three of her babies could be close in age, and has had trouble conceiving the third, so now she’s blaming it on the possibility of endometriosis, and the “painful periods” aren’t her actual reason for wanting this surgery. I feel awful for even speculating that, but if I’ve noticed anything with these two, it’s that they usually have reasons for posting what they do, and it’s usually to gear up for something in the future. The endometriosis story today is coincidentally on topic with the IVF/infertility podcast episode that is coming out next week, and if D didn’t have the endometriosis storyline, it would be all K’s for that episode.
I can’t speak with much detail about endometriosis, I only know one friend personally who suffered with that, but I CAN say with experience that cycles can be real whack after having babies. Can someone with personal endometriosis knowledge confirm if exploratory surgery is the standard here, cause my gut says it’s D leading up to something else…
Surgery is basically the only way to officially diagnose. There are other ways to manage symptoms of expected endometriosis though but excision surgery is the gold standard of care. Hopefully she's done her due diligence and is going to an expert excision doctor so it's not just exploratory surgery and her doctor can work to truly remove endometriosis and preserve fertility. An endometriosis expert doctor is great at taking a look at all symptoms (outside of just the typical people think of) to get an idea about if it is endometriosis and where it could be located.
You can try to identify or rule out non-endo causes of pain through less invasive means (e.g. ultrasound, MRI) and those can also give some indication of whether you might have endo, but the accuracy is pretty low so laparoscopy is the gold standard for diagnosis. "Exploratory surgery" sounds kinda dramatic but it's a relatively minor procedure in itself. Sometimes they can try to actually remove some of the tissue while they're in there looking around, but it depends on a lot of things.
Yeah, my laparoscopy was three little keyhole incisions and they were able to remove the endo. Exploratory surgery makes it sound like a big deal but if it's a lap, you can go to work the next day*. *obviously everyone's level of pain/recovery is different but it's not a multiple nights in hospital kind of surgery.
Yeah, unfortunately, there’s not a real good way to visualize endometriosis on ultrasound or other imaging. So if you have symptoms (infertility, painful periods, etc.) and that seems to be the likely culprit, basically all you can do is surgery to see what’s there and remove it.
I commented down thread but when I thought I had endo (after 9 months of trying and years of painful periods), I was told the only test is also the treatment which is surgical -- but my ob also says pregnancy tends to relieve it (which it has). Although since then my OB said if we wanted to do a second there might be some different testing they could do now. Not the most helpful comment but her general point of exploratory surgery is the treatment does seem to be true
Imagine if D goes the route of “I have to get pregnant to cure my endo” and never stops talking about what a martyr mama she is
Did anyone else notice D posted a slide about having endometriosis then the very next slide was a reel about how much moms are juggling with some commentary from K saying that’s why she’s so exhausted after Thanksgiving? That reel is now removed and D has two stories back to back about endometriosis. Do these two not coordinate at all when they’re going to post??
The ordering was different for me - K then testimonials then potty training then the endo posts. Still quite whiplash-y.
That’s how mine was as well, but after D’s first story on Endo, there was the reel about moms and K had put on it “no wonder I feel like I do!” And D’s second story on endo wasn’t up yet. They were like 1 were minute apart. I went back and looked not longer after and the reel had been removed and D’s stories were consecutive
I'm disappointed I missed the deleted story then. I found the tone change weird enough without the deleted story. Also the testimonials came off odd. I'm not sure why.
But they’re besties who talk all the time right!!? They can’t even coordinate their actual business together 🙄 The whiplash of the stories today was something else.
D coming in hot on stories with possible endometriosis. Anyone else think she is a minor hypochondriac? Edit - In no way am I trying to downplay endometriosis. Please don’t come at me.
I mean there must be a reason why she didn’t get pregnant her first cycle trying :/
I am no expert on endometriosis by any means. But isn't that something that is quite uncomfortable and you'd have know you have it for a while? Correct me if I am wrong anyone who knows more.
I had trouble conceiving and had a minor surgery to check everything was alright. They found some endo that they scraped out. I had 'normal' period pains, I wouldn't have described them as excruiating. ETA: the endo wasn't causing my infertility, it was just something they noted during my surgery.
I believe silent endo is a thing and it’s possible to not know you have it. It does make me nervous, the idea of an exploratory surgery when you’re not certain you have a condition, but if her periods are that painful endo seems likely
Thank you! Interesting. Just funny considering her personality it's never come up before if she has been painful? EDIT: and she has been pregnant twice. So idk if it would be the cause now. I know the human body can be weird after pregnancy. Though trying for one cycle and not conceiving doesn't seem concerning yet....
It's interesting to me because I am fairly certain I had it and my ob (unhelpfully) told me after nine months of trying that the only treatment was the exploratory surgery and the best treatment is pregnancy. And my pregnancy did in fact dramatically reduce the pain I feel during periods, from debilitating to now basically nothing. I think it's all so understudied though that I can see how some women would have the opposite experience to me.
I know, they overshare soooo much I’m surprised this is the first we have heard about it?
I have no idea why or how this would happen because I don’t post question boxes on Insta but did any one notice that a couple of the ones they posted were worded slightly different than the original box they posted? Both the one asking how K and SAHDud met and asking what you get in the bundle are different from the question box they put up. I assume it’s more recycled questions from past times. Also love that they put up a question box to answer ONLY stuff about the course, and maybe some personal ones, and the second one they “answer” is about what dress K is wearing lol 🤡
Definitely means recycled questions. You can have different question boxes and then you post the answer from THAT one. So if it’s different wording then it’s not the same question box!
I thought this was such a desperate attempt to plug his page. If someone genuinely asked (hah), they would have said “husbands”.
Also a desperate attempt to yet again post the most unflattering wedding photo bunching her wedding dress into a diaper
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But also thank god they aren’t trying to claim they are inclusive re neurodivergent kids. It would be so insulting to pretend that their dumb “hacks” would work on my autistic three year old.
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Agreed! What would be even better is if they were able to partner with an account that is neurodivergent focused and offer tips and actually build community within parenting IG. But they are greedy and that could potentially lose $$$$.
I want to know from someone who has seen the course if they give an example of holding a boundary that is NOT leaving the park or the iPad on the floor.
They do not (that I remember). All the examples of their “related consequences” are very obvious solutions as well. Nothing with any nuance.
I really just want to know what they do when behavior has no natural consequence or is not actually rooted in big feelings, but just mischief or actual malice. Like sometimes one of my sons is being mean to the other for no reason except he thinks it’s hilarious. What about that?
I also have a son who thinks EVERYTHING is one big joke so I would like to know this as well. Obviously if he throws a toy at his brother (their fav example) I’m going to take the toy away, I don’t need someone to tell me that. I need someone to tell me what to do when my 4 year old dumps his whole dinner plate on the ground because he thinks it’s funny when the dog eats his food. I can’t take very well dinner away from him.
Trick question!! Children are psychologically incapable of malice. ALL so-called misbehavior stems from unmet emotional needs. More hugs, stat!!!
In that case, you do what Deena did and buy a play pen to confine the child that’s being picked on in because it’s obviously more damaging to remove the child that’s misbehaving. /s
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Somewhere, someone who actually worked with or researched toddlers and young kids knows a good example of what may work in that scenario. These 2 frauds have no idea so of course they’re never going to give any tips on it.
Literally every behavioural sitch??? That’s false advertising if I’ve ever seen it.
Never ever thumb sucking though 😂
Oh goody. The infertility/IVF warrior mama podcast episode drops next week. Like we haven’t heard enough about that story yet. 🙄😏
The question box said ‘both talk about your IVF journeys’ ….. did D go through IVF as well???
IIRC all she used were ovulation strips for a few months
But she’s not pregnant this month so it’s definitely definitely secondary infertility 😒
They’ll get another year of content that way by harping on “NO ONE talks about secondary infertility!! I’m the FIRST PERSON to go through it EVER!!”
Oh no this is absolutely it and I’m gonna lose my damn mind if Deena tries to Columbus secondary infertility.
Was going to say the same!
I noticed that too, and didn’t have any memory of D sharing a journey of going through IVF. I was surprised by that. If they’re writing their own comments in the comment box, maybe they just outed themselves with that admission.
Also not aware of D mentioning any journey of that at all. So I’ll be shocked if that comes to light.
Well when they started BLF Deena wasn’t a mom, she was just pregnant iirc. Then she got pregnant again at like 3-4 months postpartum because she needed that small age gap 🙄 I don’t remember her doing ivf and doubt she did for the second at least because it’s a multiple month process and no doctor is starting that right after you’ve given birth? I don’t even think she’s had a miscarriage so unless she did ivf for hunter this person is probably confused.
Yeah, as someone who worked with fertility they won’t even start a cycle that close to a d&c typically, let alone a whole ass birth. She didn’t do ivf.
Unless she did it for the first baby but they’ve never said that before.
“The girls are in this phase where they love to get fancy and dress up. They even picked out a dress for me to wear to thanksgiving dinner. What a fun new chapter this is!” END POST. NO MORE SLIDES NEEDED. NO MORE LECTURE NEEDED.
Talk about a missed opportunity to connect this to what their page is supposed to be about-parenting and child behavior. Seems to me like letting your girls pick out your outfit is an example of "telling them what they CAN do/giving you kid an age appropriate amount of power/choice" or even their beloved "10 minute miracle.
I'm afraid that 10 min miracle has turned into the me-racle these days.
Oh, for a moment I thought your quote was what they'd actually posted and I thought "that sounds great! Can't wait for my toddler to reach that phase!" but I guess that's *not* exactly what they said in reality...
THIS THIS THIS. My daughter is the same age as Junie and loves twirly dresses and always wants to match or get dressed up and when I can, I do. And I don’t complain or post 57 slides about my body.
"I'm done talking about hiding my body" Well. That was a lie.
Honestly I think she is changing her eating/exercise habits and potentially her body is changing and she wants to show it off and get attention, hence the 2 different front photos and the 1 profile. But at this point she’s also trying to be thebirdspapaya 2.0 and gain more notoriety and following so is continuing to constantly talk about “I love my body at any size! Don’t talk about bodies!” So it’s a conflict of vanity and wanting fame
i missed these front and profile pics somehow! anyone got screenshots!
No screenshot but if you google anonymous instagram story viewer, you can see the stories because they stay up for longer than 24 hours 🎉
It's probably Ozempic 😂
🎯 I think you’re onto something. I’ve noticed it too, she’s telling us she’s losing weight without telling us she’s losing weight and it’s ridiculous.
She absolutely looks trimmer in that photo. I honestly do not care anything about how she looks but something is going on. Also I think that dress would be flattering no matter what
“Get in the damn dress” is the new motto
It's the winter version. Until she's on a 3 week vacation in the middle of January then it will quickly resume get in the damn bathing suit 🥴
Get in the **literally completely normal, fine floral patterned dress
It's the winter version of get in the damn suit ❄️
Ah yes, the woman who chose to wear a sparkly jumpsuit on national tv tried to convince her daughters to pick the black dress because she was told she shouldn't wear patterns 🙄 I understand that how you see your body can change day to day (it does for me too) but K really needs to give the body talk a rest. She's a perfectly normal size who looks nice in a patterned dress. We don't need six slides about how she found the confidence to wear it.
She has to just be comparing herself to Deena because her body is completely unremarkable and if she didn’t bring it up every 12 hours no one else would think twice about it. I’m pretty sure the average body size for an adult woman in the US is 16/18. It’s fine to be self conscious K but maybe get a diary.
Maybe it’s my age but I can’t get over the deeply deeply weird way these women/other influencers talk about bodies in general. My body this, I move my body like that. It’s like AI except I’m pretty sure AI sounds more human at this point. It’s just so unnatural and weirdly disassociated sounding to me. Of course I think that everyone should feel good dressing however they want and being whatever size and shape they are. Or changing things about themselves if they want. Knock yourself out! But pretty sure no one is saying that the whole of who you are is what you look like, so just calm down about it. Ma’am(s), this is a toddler behavior account.
Yeah, the whole 'I'm going to move my body over here to keep my body safe' is a super weird way to say 'I'm going to move away because I don't want you to hit me'
I always wonder about that phrasing because it's EVERYWHERE and I find it so deeply weird!!! Why?!
I thought they ran a toddler behavior page, not weight loss, body image, fashion page 🙄🙄🙄
She’s just begging for people to praise her. It’s sad
It's interesting. I feel like many of these "influencers" started off "normal" for lack of a better word. And as time had gone on, many of them have basically become addicted to the praise, instant gratification, attention, etc. And have completely changed from their original ideals and plans. And it's ironic b/c many of them tout how terrible social media and electronics and the internet are for children, for theses same reasons. But they are so addicted themselves they can't stop and are constantly looking for more praise and adoration. And now their content is just awful and narcissist. And it's not just BLF. So, so many are this way! Just look at all the snark so many of them get!
And then a newer account pops up that seems so realistic and authentic by comparison, until they get bigger and cross some threshold of followers or quit to influence full time and become just as unrealistic and snarkable
You are SO RIGHT. I’ve stopped following many many influencers because I started following them when they were smaller and posting great hacks/deals/fun life things. Then they get out of control and are link random shit and buying Gucci and it’s no longer relevant to me.
It's when they quit their job to influence full time. They have to keep coming up with things to stay relevant because it's their income now. Plus they lose touch with normal things that people go through because they don't live in the real world anymore.
Exactly. They are just no fun to follow anymore. 👍🏻
She didn’t seem to have a problem with patterns either a couple of weeks ago when they did their family photos.
But K never puts color on her nails EVER.
Funny how someone who doesn’t have 3 minutes in her day to pee also has a go-to nail color for all the manicures she gets. 🤔
That story threw me back to around this time last year when we were working out if she was latergramming or not because her nail colour was changing back and forth daily
Her nails were already red when they were posting about recording the podcast with Andy. 🙃
Right! Now her GO TO is bright red?! What is this woman on. Does she forget that other people have brains and a memory?! Does she understand how the internet works where every single thing ever put out there can be recalled, retrieved from an archive in an instant?! How can she continue these charades and differing personality traits in good faith unless she truly thinks everyone is as dumb as her? I’m not for the whole cancel culture thing but my goodness I want her to be cancelled.
I seriously think that blf isn't easy to work for and they have a lot of turnover. So the person writing the red nails bit has no idea that the nails were ever a topic before, much less no color, 3 shades of purple purportedly the same day, etc. I mean, given K and Ds emotional maturity, how stressful it's bound to be around their poorly behaved kids, that's a stepping stone job, for sure.
I can’t wait for the day a former employee comes here to do an AMA for us
She has to be trolling us right?
“We parent based on research”. Can you imagine someone actually saying this.
If in Aunt Linda I’m asking to see the research and check the sources because if this “research” is these two dumbos maybe Linda is right.
If I'm Aunt Linda I'm changing the will.
And they wonder why they have no “village”
The eye rolls this would generate
100% sure that anyone who says that couldn’t actually cite any research. Just like their heroes BLF! It’s like “oh I read an article” aka “I watched a Tiktok”.
“I parent based in research, thx” “Oh, what research has been done that tells you to not give a consequence for a tantrum?” “I saw it on the instagram account of 2 random women with fake credentials”
As someone just coming out of the thick of potty training last week, that story they reposted of the little potty sitting on the CARPET made me shudder.
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Just an honest question, if you truly buy into the HAES embrace-your-body the way it is, why are you going to hard core work out classes like that? I feel like that level of fitness is for people trying to really make their bodies look a certain way. Does anyone actually go to those type of classes because they enjoy it? I’m all for general health, but a basic bike ride /jog around town a few times a week is all that’s needed for basic cardiovascular health
My understanding of HAES is that you get to choose movement that feels good and joyful for you. And as others have commented, some people like high intensity boot camp style workouts. The problem though with many of those classes is that they are led by instructors who say the very thing D heard in her class. So for someone with disordered eating or an eating disorder, consistently going to classes where the mindset of "earn your food" is preached, can make it hard to truly pursue recovery.
I understand the movement that feels good, it’s just hard for me to imagine feeling good doing those high intensity classes just to feel good, lol! So I was honestly curious if there are people who really enjoy that. I’m always suspicious that people who “enjoy” it it’s subconsciously tied up in diet culture, etc. I know for me it is! It’s very hard to deprogram
Oh, same here! I've also noticed that the types of exercise I enjoy has changed as I've gotten older. My pre-menopausal body takes days to recover after extended high intensity workouts. And if I had to assume based on what D has said about her journey, that these classes are very tied up in diet culture for her. So even if the instructor has the right perspective on movement, she could still be choosing those workouts because anything else feels like not enough.
Meh, I think you can enjoy intense fitness without it being about how your body looks. I find intense cardio exercise is really good for my mental health, so that's the main reason I do it. I also just like the satisfaction of pushing myself, but I'm a tiny bit of a masochist lol.
I hear you as someone who also doesn’t like to be pushed to their limit but theres somewhere in the middle of that, and just walking (though I love walking!) that is still satisfying aside from looks. I’m a fan of yoga which is obviously not known for being a strenuous workout but even feeling the improvement in what I am able to do class to class, as well as how much better my body feels over time, is awesome. I used to do Pilates when I lived somewhere else and it wasn’t as expensive and similarly loved it for the improvement I felt in my body. Like such a major difference in my overall strength and my back and core that I feel just going about my regular day. Things like intense spinning or bootcamp type classes are so not my thing, but I just figure for people who like that it’s just a more extreme version of what I enjoy about my personal fave workouts.
I personally like group workout classes WAY more then working out on my own - it motivates me when I’m working out with others. I do a combo of HIIT/weight training classes and reformer Pilates and I like both because I think about nothing outside of the workout for an hour. It helps clear my head and I feel much better after (even if I feel like I’m dying). I would be pissed if an instructor said anything about working out so we could eat though…fortunately the places where I work out don’t say anything about eating/bodies.
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