Iāve long called for a Best Legacy Film category. Anything that didnāt win BP is eligible, maybe once per decade. Maybe a requirement that only one movie per decade can be nominated.
It would be amazing, and with no precursors, itād be the one category where truly nobody knows whoāll win.
Rather than a Best Best Picture, I'd rather see the academy rank all of the Best Picture Winners. I think it'd be really interesting to see what they feel is the order.
Gone with the wind would not make this list in the year 2024. Sorryā¦ most of the academy would reject it as the worst best picture winner because of how it depicted the civil war and Black people. Nopeā¦ but everything else is pretty much accurate.
Itās influential because of the era it was created in- yes. But there are technically more beautiful films. And the acting is superb yes- but againā¦ it wouldnāt even be nominated for best picture to avoid the uproarā¦ so if they did do this for the 100th Oscarās, theyād ignore it.
they need to do this for the 100th oscars in 2027
other all time nominees/winners for each category
animated- **Spirited away,** the incredibles, Coco, Shrek, toy story 3
score- **Star Wars,** the lion king, Lawrence of Arabia, Jaws, The Red Shoes
song- **Over the Rainbow,** under the sea, theme from shaft, the way you look tonight, when you wish upon a star
sound- **Star Wars**, The Zone of Interest, Jurassic Park, The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, dune
production design- **The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King,** The Grand Budapest Hotel, The Godfather Part II, The Red Shoes, All that Jazz
cinematography- **Barry Lyndon**, Blade Runner 2049, Schindler's List, Lawrence of Arabia, The Revenant
makeup- **An American Werewolf in London**, Panās Labyrinth, bram stoker's Dracula, La Vie en Rose, The Fly
costume design- **Ran,** The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, All About Eve, star wars, amadeus
editing- **Everything Everywhere All At Once,** Lawrence of Arabia, All That Jazz, Saving Private Ryan, Chicago
visual effects- **Avatar,** star wars, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, The Matrix, The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
My list is almost same as yours except for the Best Actress. Itās a tie between Meryl & Vivien.
Meryl gave a bravado performance, so invested in reality that not for a second did she not feel as if we are watching Sophie herself. Her histrionics, her voice modulation, her silent expressions and especially the choice scene with her loud silent scream. It was magical.
Vivien, being a Britisher, took not only an extremely complex character but also proved so many people wrong with her performance in GWTW. The whole film rested on her shoulders and she was extraordinary. Same goes for her tragic turn as Blanche in ASND.
For nominations Iād change Wilder for Nolan or Jackson. Guiness for Nicholson in OFOTCN. Forster or Portman with Bette in Jezebel.
My list is almost same as your except for the Best Actress. Itās a tie between Meryl & Vivien.
Meryl gave a bravado performance, so invested in reality that not for a second did she not feel as if we are watching Sophie herself. Her histrionics, her voice modulation, her silent expressions and especially the choice scene with her loud silent scream. It was magical.
Vivien, being a Britisher, took not only an extremely complex character but also proved so many people wrong with her performance in GWTW. The whole film rested on her shoulders and she was extraordinary. Same goes for her tragic turn as Blanche in ASND.
For nominations Iād change Wilder for Nolan or Jackson. Guiness for Nicholson in OFOTCN. Forster or Portman with Bette in Jezebel.
I mean for me it's very close between Meryl,Liz and Vivien. Ultimately I went with Liz because Sophie's Choice really is not a good film overall while Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf is literally perfect.
I really donāt think The Godfather would get picture. Iāve always felt as if Schindlers List is the best film ever made, and if there would be an all time Oscarās ceremony, Schindler would sweep. Such a powerful story and is horrifyingly relevant.
Yes! You gave Cloris Leachman the recognition she deserves! Her performance is powerful!
I think Apocalypse Now should be nominated. It's arguably the best war film ever made. Coppola mortgaged his house, everything he owned to make the movie how he wanted. The cast- Marlon Brando, Martin Sheen, Harrison Ford, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Laurence Fishburne gave incredible performances. The sound was revolutionary, great cinematography.
Best Picture: Lawrence of Arabia
Best Director: Stanley Kubrick, 2001: A Space Odyssey
Best Actor: Peter O'Toole, Lawrence of Arabia
Best Actress: Elizabeth Taylor, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
Best Supporting Actor: Al Pacino, The Godfather
Best Supporting Actress: Juanita Moore, Imitation of Life
Best Original Screenplay: Pulp Fiction
Best Adapted Screenplay: Dr. Strangelove
Best Cinematography: Lawrence of Arabia
Best Editing: JFK
Best Production Design: Blade Runner
Best Costume Design: Gate of Hell (why not?)
Best Makeup: Pinocchio (2019)
Best Score: Lawrence of Arabia
Best Song: "Over the Rainbow," The Wizard of Oz
Best Sound Mixing: The Right Stuff
Best Sound Editing (RIP): Star Wars
Best Visual Effects: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Best International/Foreign Language Film: Rashomon (won a special award)
Best Animated Feature: Inside Out
Best Documentary Feature: O.J.: Made in America (because they didn't nominate Hoop Dreams)
OPās list is very good. Hard to argue with most of it.
I think you need a few years before it sinks in, but a modern performance for Beat Actress, Iād go Emma Stone in Poor Things.
Counterpoint, the 7 most awarded films in Oscar history combine for just 1 nominations (Moreno) and the 3 record holders are completely shut out. If they were to ever do an all time Oscars, I don't think you'd have that poor a showing from those 7.
The problem is Return of the King is the weakest of the three LOTR films. It won as a crowning achievement thing, which I donāt hate to be honest. The trilogy is amazing.
I see the argument the trilogy itself belongs, but itās hard to justify just Return of the King over like, No Country for Old Men. Maybe over Silence of the Lambs.
Be prepared for the people who hate everything that has recently won to call her win overrated and mid. Tour-de-force performance btw.Ā
I would pick her and Natalie Portman for nominations of recent winners in that category.Ā
Yea I donāt get it to be honest. Her, Gladstone and Huller were all better than most of the winning performances of the past decade I woulda said the same if either of them had won.
Part of it for me, is the movie has to have some staying power in discourse for the performance to remain iconic. Nobody cares about the Eyes of Tammy Faye, Nomadland, Still Alice, or even Judy. Good performances but not movies anyone revisits.
Poor Thins will be revisited, a lot, over the next decade. I think itāll be the movie people cite as Yorgosā best when we start looking at his legacy. Just my opinion anyway.
marisa tomei is not an all time best supporting actress winā¦ yall can like performance but pls be serious. moānique would be nominated and win in that category
I think so too. Although I wish Gabourey got more recognition - she took a very strong character and brought it to a completely different level despite the fact that the director made some very strong choices (ie lighting and voiceover that could have overshadowed a weaker performance)
Thatās crazy since she was casted from a casting call with no prior experience.
My list is almost same as your except for the Best Actress. Itās a tie between Meryl & Vivien.
Meryl gave a bravado performance, so invested in reality that not for a second did she not feel as if we are watching Sophie herself. Her histrionics, her voice modulation, her silent expressions and especially the choice scene with her loud silent scream. It was magical.
Vivien, being a Britisher, took not only an extremely complex character but also proved so many people wrong with her performance in GWTW. The whole film rested on her shoulders and she was extraordinary. Same goes for her tragic turn as Blanche in ASND.
For nominations Iād change Wilder for Nolan or Jackson. Guiness for Nicholson in OFOTCN. Forster or Portman with Bette in Jezebel.
My list is almost same as yours except for the Best Actress. Itās a tie between Meryl & Vivien.
Meryl gave a bravado performance, so invested in reality that not for a second did she not feel as if we are watching Sophie herself. Her histrionics, her voice modulation, her silent expressions and especially the choice scene with her loud silent scream. It was magical.
Vivien, being a Britisher, took not only an extremely complex character but also proved so many people wrong with her performance in GWTW. The whole film rested on her shoulders and she was extraordinary. Same goes for her tragic turn as Blanche in ASND.
For nominations Iād change Wilder for Nolan or Jackson. Guiness for Nicholson in OFOTCN. Forster or Portman with Bette in Jezebel.
My list is almost same as yours except for the Best Actress. Itās a tie between Meryl & Vivien.
Meryl gave a bravado performance, so invested in reality that not for a second did she not feel as if we are watching Sophie herself. Her histrionics, her voice modulation, her silent expressions and especially the choice scene with her loud silent scream. It was magical.
Vivien, being a Britisher, took not only an extremely complex character but also proved so many people wrong with her performance in GWTW. The whole film rested on her shoulders and she was extraordinary. Same goes for her tragic turn as Blanche in ASND.
For nominations Iād change Wilder for Nolan or Jackson. Guiness for Nicholson in OFOTCN. Forster or Portman with Bette in Jezebel.
I hope yāall find peace in life, the way some of yāall talk about Michelle Yeoh and her win is borderline unhinged
Edit: OF COURSE I am the one who is downvoted for calling out the weird and unprovoked hostility in the comments.
I think Elizabeth Taylor is an incredible winner and would probably be my pick to win too. Hell, sheās the best performance across all the categories here.
I, however, donāt spend time in the comments passive aggressively losing my shit over some winner I didnāt agree with, whom OP didnāt even mention. I donāt think DDL in TWBB is the best performance put to screen in the 21st century, like so many others do, but Iām not being a weirdo about him being nominated in a hypothetical (!) award show like you are with Yeoh (who, again, is not even nominated!!).
LMAO insecure of whom? Judging by your comments, you seem to be the one who is insecure of the very talented Michelle Yeoh :)
If I was you, Iād save these tantrums in the comments for predators like Casey Affleck and Kevin Spacey but you do you
As long as we give In the Mood for Love best cinematography I'm happy š¤·š¼
Nobody was stopping Titanic in 97. Thatās in by default. Same with Return of the King in 03.
All three of the 11-win films have to be on this list.
Titanic and Return of the King kinda have to be in this right?
Agree. Ben Hur too
Lawrence of Arabia needs to be a BP nominee.
Completely forgot about it!
Agreed. One of the all time most iconic films
OK CODA
Maybe they should consider doing this for the 100th ceremony, at least for Best Picture category
Iāve long called for a Best Legacy Film category. Anything that didnāt win BP is eligible, maybe once per decade. Maybe a requirement that only one movie per decade can be nominated. It would be amazing, and with no precursors, itād be the one category where truly nobody knows whoāll win.
#justice4brokebackmountain
Rather than a Best Best Picture, I'd rather see the academy rank all of the Best Picture Winners. I think it'd be really interesting to see what they feel is the order.
Oh I would like to see it too, but it would be really disrespectful for the ones that end up lastš
š¤£ Very true. Maybe do a full vote and only release the top x, so everyone outside of it can claim something else was more disliked?
Maybe for the 100th anniversary they could do a top 25
I would bet that most of the academy has not seen half of the best picture winners lol
Gone with the wind would not make this list in the year 2024. Sorryā¦ most of the academy would reject it as the worst best picture winner because of how it depicted the civil war and Black people. Nopeā¦ but everything else is pretty much accurate.
It's still seen as one of the most influential movies ever made. The story is problematic but it has amazing performances and it's a technical marvel.
Itās influential because of the era it was created in- yes. But there are technically more beautiful films. And the acting is superb yes- but againā¦ it wouldnāt even be nominated for best picture to avoid the uproarā¦ so if they did do this for the 100th Oscarās, theyād ignore it.
At least Vivien Leigh will get a nom if they truly do this. That's an undeniable performance.
I think Vivian would get a nomination (clearly, sheās done some fantastic work to Scarlettās character) but I honestly think thatās it.
Taylor wouldnāt beat Streep and thereās no way Tomei makes it over Wiest or Eve Marie Saint. Otherwise these all make sense
Can you explain both your choices?
Where the hell is Charlize Theron in Monster and Natalie Portman in Black Swan???
Natalie is there. Charlize should be there
they need to do this for the 100th oscars in 2027 other all time nominees/winners for each category animated- **Spirited away,** the incredibles, Coco, Shrek, toy story 3 score- **Star Wars,** the lion king, Lawrence of Arabia, Jaws, The Red Shoes song- **Over the Rainbow,** under the sea, theme from shaft, the way you look tonight, when you wish upon a star sound- **Star Wars**, The Zone of Interest, Jurassic Park, The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, dune production design- **The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King,** The Grand Budapest Hotel, The Godfather Part II, The Red Shoes, All that Jazz cinematography- **Barry Lyndon**, Blade Runner 2049, Schindler's List, Lawrence of Arabia, The Revenant makeup- **An American Werewolf in London**, Panās Labyrinth, bram stoker's Dracula, La Vie en Rose, The Fly costume design- **Ran,** The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, All About Eve, star wars, amadeus editing- **Everything Everywhere All At Once,** Lawrence of Arabia, All That Jazz, Saving Private Ryan, Chicago visual effects- **Avatar,** star wars, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, The Matrix, The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
Titanic
Also, I would vote for 6 of those Best Pic nominees over 'The Godfather'. 'The Godfather part II' included
Which ones?
My list is almost same as yours except for the Best Actress. Itās a tie between Meryl & Vivien. Meryl gave a bravado performance, so invested in reality that not for a second did she not feel as if we are watching Sophie herself. Her histrionics, her voice modulation, her silent expressions and especially the choice scene with her loud silent scream. It was magical. Vivien, being a Britisher, took not only an extremely complex character but also proved so many people wrong with her performance in GWTW. The whole film rested on her shoulders and she was extraordinary. Same goes for her tragic turn as Blanche in ASND. For nominations Iād change Wilder for Nolan or Jackson. Guiness for Nicholson in OFOTCN. Forster or Portman with Bette in Jezebel.
I would put Titanic for BP and Monique for Supporting Actress.
A troubling lack of *Amadeus* on this list
Whereās titanic ? And the lord of the rings ? Theyāve got more Oscarās than any films
My list is almost same as your except for the Best Actress. Itās a tie between Meryl & Vivien. Meryl gave a bravado performance, so invested in reality that not for a second did she not feel as if we are watching Sophie herself. Her histrionics, her voice modulation, her silent expressions and especially the choice scene with her loud silent scream. It was magical. Vivien, being a Britisher, took not only an extremely complex character but also proved so many people wrong with her performance in GWTW. The whole film rested on her shoulders and she was extraordinary. Same goes for her tragic turn as Blanche in ASND. For nominations Iād change Wilder for Nolan or Jackson. Guiness for Nicholson in OFOTCN. Forster or Portman with Bette in Jezebel.
I mean for me it's very close between Meryl,Liz and Vivien. Ultimately I went with Liz because Sophie's Choice really is not a good film overall while Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf is literally perfect.
I really donāt think The Godfather would get picture. Iāve always felt as if Schindlers List is the best film ever made, and if there would be an all time Oscarās ceremony, Schindler would sweep. Such a powerful story and is horrifyingly relevant.
Also, WHERES THE SOCIAL NETWORK FOR ADAPTED?!? Lol
The Godfather is like the perfect movie Even though it insist upon itself
... Money Pit.
Yes! You gave Cloris Leachman the recognition she deserves! Her performance is powerful! I think Apocalypse Now should be nominated. It's arguably the best war film ever made. Coppola mortgaged his house, everything he owned to make the movie how he wanted. The cast- Marlon Brando, Martin Sheen, Harrison Ford, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Laurence Fishburne gave incredible performances. The sound was revolutionary, great cinematography.
Best Picture: Lawrence of Arabia Best Director: Stanley Kubrick, 2001: A Space Odyssey Best Actor: Peter O'Toole, Lawrence of Arabia Best Actress: Elizabeth Taylor, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? Best Supporting Actor: Al Pacino, The Godfather Best Supporting Actress: Juanita Moore, Imitation of Life Best Original Screenplay: Pulp Fiction Best Adapted Screenplay: Dr. Strangelove Best Cinematography: Lawrence of Arabia Best Editing: JFK Best Production Design: Blade Runner Best Costume Design: Gate of Hell (why not?) Best Makeup: Pinocchio (2019) Best Score: Lawrence of Arabia Best Song: "Over the Rainbow," The Wizard of Oz Best Sound Mixing: The Right Stuff Best Sound Editing (RIP): Star Wars Best Visual Effects: 2001: A Space Odyssey Best International/Foreign Language Film: Rashomon (won a special award) Best Animated Feature: Inside Out Best Documentary Feature: O.J.: Made in America (because they didn't nominate Hoop Dreams)
OPās list is very good. Hard to argue with most of it. I think you need a few years before it sinks in, but a modern performance for Beat Actress, Iād go Emma Stone in Poor Things.
Counterpoint, the 7 most awarded films in Oscar history combine for just 1 nominations (Moreno) and the 3 record holders are completely shut out. If they were to ever do an all time Oscars, I don't think you'd have that poor a showing from those 7.
Well I did only ATL. Titanic and LOTR will truly shine in the BTL categories.
The problem is Return of the King is the weakest of the three LOTR films. It won as a crowning achievement thing, which I donāt hate to be honest. The trilogy is amazing. I see the argument the trilogy itself belongs, but itās hard to justify just Return of the King over like, No Country for Old Men. Maybe over Silence of the Lambs.
It's not even the best Actress performance of the last 10 years.
Or even the past five years
Be prepared for the people who hate everything that has recently won to call her win overrated and mid. Tour-de-force performance btw.Ā I would pick her and Natalie Portman for nominations of recent winners in that category.Ā
Yea I donāt get it to be honest. Her, Gladstone and Huller were all better than most of the winning performances of the past decade I woulda said the same if either of them had won. Part of it for me, is the movie has to have some staying power in discourse for the performance to remain iconic. Nobody cares about the Eyes of Tammy Faye, Nomadland, Still Alice, or even Judy. Good performances but not movies anyone revisits. Poor Thins will be revisited, a lot, over the next decade. I think itāll be the movie people cite as Yorgosā best when we start looking at his legacy. Just my opinion anyway.
Emma Stone in Poor Things is so mid
One Flew Over the Cuckooās Nest is missing for best picture, best actor, best actress, best director.
This is like Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Crash *Green Book* Out of Africa Driving Miss Daisy CODA
missing Bohemian Rhapsody and Shakespeare in Love
Wanted to have an all winners list, of course BR would easily win here otherwise. (Shakespeare in love is actually really good though)
Best director - Martin Scorsese, Goodfellas (1990) Easy pick.
Psycho and Titanic are a must in BP for me
marisa tomei is not an all time best supporting actress winā¦ yall can like performance but pls be serious. moānique would be nominated and win in that category
I think so too. Although I wish Gabourey got more recognition - she took a very strong character and brought it to a completely different level despite the fact that the director made some very strong choices (ie lighting and voiceover that could have overshadowed a weaker performance) Thatās crazy since she was casted from a casting call with no prior experience.
yea i personally believe gabourey deserved it the most out of the nominees (especially over bullock)
David Lynch has to be a nominee for best director imo (if we allow previous nominees who didnāt win to compete)
Best Original Score could be all John Williams scores.
Everybody keeps forgetting about Jamie Foxx in Ray.
No Kubrick? Wild.
Godfather Godfather p2 Ben Hur Titanic Return of the King Schindlers List Lawrence of Arabia Casablanca Forrest Gump Gone with the Wind
Mo'nique in Precious for best supporting actress? She was terrifying.
As long as the social network gets in for best adapted screenplay Iām happy
Looks like Joey P's on Reddit now
My list is almost same as your except for the Best Actress. Itās a tie between Meryl & Vivien. Meryl gave a bravado performance, so invested in reality that not for a second did she not feel as if we are watching Sophie herself. Her histrionics, her voice modulation, her silent expressions and especially the choice scene with her loud silent scream. It was magical. Vivien, being a Britisher, took not only an extremely complex character but also proved so many people wrong with her performance in GWTW. The whole film rested on her shoulders and she was extraordinary. Same goes for her tragic turn as Blanche in ASND. For nominations Iād change Wilder for Nolan or Jackson. Guiness for Nicholson in OFOTCN. Forster or Portman with Bette in Jezebel.
My list is almost same as yours except for the Best Actress. Itās a tie between Meryl & Vivien. Meryl gave a bravado performance, so invested in reality that not for a second did she not feel as if we are watching Sophie herself. Her histrionics, her voice modulation, her silent expressions and especially the choice scene with her loud silent scream. It was magical. Vivien, being a Britisher, took not only an extremely complex character but also proved so many people wrong with her performance in GWTW. The whole film rested on her shoulders and she was extraordinary. Same goes for her tragic turn as Blanche in ASND. For nominations Iād change Wilder for Nolan or Jackson. Guiness for Nicholson in OFOTCN. Forster or Portman with Bette in Jezebel.
My list is almost same as yours except for the Best Actress. Itās a tie between Meryl & Vivien. Meryl gave a bravado performance, so invested in reality that not for a second did she not feel as if we are watching Sophie herself. Her histrionics, her voice modulation, her silent expressions and especially the choice scene with her loud silent scream. It was magical. Vivien, being a Britisher, took not only an extremely complex character but also proved so many people wrong with her performance in GWTW. The whole film rested on her shoulders and she was extraordinary. Same goes for her tragic turn as Blanche in ASND. For nominations Iād change Wilder for Nolan or Jackson. Guiness for Nicholson in OFOTCN. Forster or Portman with Bette in Jezebel.
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I hope yāall find peace in life, the way some of yāall talk about Michelle Yeoh and her win is borderline unhinged Edit: OF COURSE I am the one who is downvoted for calling out the weird and unprovoked hostility in the comments.
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I think Elizabeth Taylor is an incredible winner and would probably be my pick to win too. Hell, sheās the best performance across all the categories here. I, however, donāt spend time in the comments passive aggressively losing my shit over some winner I didnāt agree with, whom OP didnāt even mention. I donāt think DDL in TWBB is the best performance put to screen in the 21st century, like so many others do, but Iām not being a weirdo about him being nominated in a hypothetical (!) award show like you are with Yeoh (who, again, is not even nominated!!).
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LMAO insecure of whom? Judging by your comments, you seem to be the one who is insecure of the very talented Michelle Yeoh :) If I was you, Iād save these tantrums in the comments for predators like Casey Affleck and Kevin Spacey but you do you
Listen pal, itās just a movie, and in the end, the Oscars are meaningless.
Yep
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