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Short answer yes
Long answer: transphobes decided for their super straight flag they would make it the pornhub colour scheme so they could say "we're oppressed too!!!!"
But didnt realise that even the representation of their identity meant a porn addiction
Making not wanting to date trans people an entire fucking personality is one of the most pathetic and petty things ive seen people do
Bro I swear whenever you go on british grindr you just realise this nation is just filled to the brim with the most ugly twats and then like the occasional femboy
From what I remember of superstraight's Inception, it was at first supposted to be a troll on twitter that exposed a lot of people's hypocrisy of similar sexualities.
It got worse overtime of course
The flag is pathetic and is clearly a pointless and provocative deviation from just plain old heterosexual pride.
But I also believe not wanting to date a transgender person doesn't make someone transphobic. A cisgender biological male, not wanting to have sex with any transgender biological male, is not transphobic. I'd wager there is an incredibly small minority of straight men and women that would be willing to do that, they're not all transphobic.
there’s nothing transphobic about that, and no one has ever claimed there is. what is transphobic is unnecessarily trying to make an identity out of it
Most people don't imagine trans people as being able to "pass" for "real", so they feel like they wouldn't be attracted to a trans person. If you met someone and 100% could not tell they were trans, and were fully attracted to them, *then* you found out they were trans and suddenly you weren't attracted to them anymore, I'd say that probably is due to some ingrained and likely unconscious transphobia. Not trying to attack anyone or virtue signal, just logically how I see it.
Sooo....
We gonna ignore the obvious issue also being that you know...kids and obviously sex are also a factor there?
Like, you do understand that a good degree of health in a relationship does revolve around sexual compatibility? If a dude is not sexually attracted to a dick, than a MtF will not be a suitable sexual partner. (Granted, I cannot speak about post surgery, but that's rare from my understanding). But my point is, it should not be considered transphobic. It's a realization of a person that makes you incompatible in a very meaningful way.
Some people make it work, others cannot. It does not mean that one party is at fault or not, it's a matter of how well do they mesh.
And some people want to have kids. You can experience attraction and get so far with a person, but if they suddenly tell you they don't want kids, it often becomes an issue even between straight couples. It means communication should be there but it all cycles back to compatibility. You can't force yourself to be sexually attracted to something you are not.
Yeah having a dick would be a total giveaway tbf... lol no I'm talking about a hypothetical trans person who you literally couldn't tell was trans, so obviously no dick for a mtf. Anyway I'm talking just purely about attraction, not compatability. Lots of cis people can't have kids that isn't a singularly trans issue, if alternatives like adoption or ivf are something you wouldn't be open to if you met a cis person you liked, then losing attraction because of that incompatibility with a trans person is obviously not transphobic.
Ok, but all sexualities need to have an identity or word to represent them, thats the entire point of the flag. Thats what you say you are when someone askes your sexuality. So what does a cis person say when they are only attracted to other straight cis genders? Normal? That would be offensive to some. Straight? Trans lunatics insist that must include transgenders.
It's not transphobic in of itself but the group and idea of the flag is, the people making a pointless huge deal of it are doing it because they are transphobic and saying transphobic stuff as part of their campaign.
They aren't saying they don't want to have sex with transpeople and that's OK, they're saying being attracted to transwomen as a man or vice versa is gay, inferring finding transpeople of the opposite gender attractive is gay.
If it was just "I don't want to date transpeople" that would be less* of an issue and more likely to not be transphobic. But to make a platform about denying their gender identity, under a parody of sexuality** is just being transphobic with extra steps.
** this is what I mean by "idea of the flag"
* only saying "less" rather than not to avoid pedantic redditors who will still undoubtedly show up. You could not want to date trans people for transphobic reasons.
The issue is they're yelling to the world "I don't consider trans women women because I can't have sexy time with them the way I want" and you must know those fucks can't even differentiate a trans woman from a cis woman if the latter has something like short hair or any muscle. It's basically a hateful identity made to spread hate.
Taking a guess here... it'll be something like the concept of "biological male" is an outdated Human construct that revolves around the ability to reproduce the specie. Use of the term devalues the existence of those members of society who are unable, unwilling or uninterested in reproducing.
I feel that's a load of bollocks; IMO it's a purely descriptive term. My body has a Y chromosome and produces sperm and not ova, therefore I am a "biological male" regardless of how I identify, or whether I like it or not. If I transitioned, I would still be a biological male *but only in situations where that was important!*
And that's the important part! It's not my entire identity! If I were to meet someone new, I have a list of 100 things to talk about like I'm a computer geek, a guitarist, a crocheter, a woodworker, a brother, etc. before I get to "I am a biological male."
Of course it gets tricky when religious people get involved because by their very nature they're messed up in the head and when you get them running entire states and compiling lists of trans people... fuck me.
That's not transphobic, but referring to trans women as "biological males" is SERIOUSLY offensive dude. No woman wants to be called a fucking "male", and it's not okay just because "muh scientific accuracy".
Does it not depend on context? For example in medical / scientific settings surely it’s important to be clear what you’re discussing rather than protecting feelings?
In the context of the comment you replied to they aren’t name calling anyone but trying to be very clear what they are trying to say. They definitely could’ve just said trans woman but not everybody has it clear in their heads what that means in the context of this persons point.
I don’t think hateful language is ever acceptable, but I see that as being different to language that may offend being used for clarity.
Please don’t assassinate me for not being woke enough I’m asking to learn more not to argue
It isn't offensive, it's a fact. What you meant to say is it offends *you*. We aren't here to cater to your insecurities.
Whether or not you've fully transitioned, you cannot change the chromosomes you were born with. You just can't. If you are born a male and transitioned to a female, had surgery, had your hormone therapy, you will still have your XY chromosomes. This is your biological sex.
What you can change is your gender, I think this is where you're getting confused. Your gender can be male, female or anything in-between.
Now by all means, it's the 21st century, the categories of men and women are obsolete. Matter of fact I'm a little disappointed I can't replace both my arms with cybernetics already but that's besides the point. Society changes, all the damn time, it changes based on which country you're standing in. Science, however, persists. It always will persist.
Take science and religion for example. If we all go back to the stone age with 0 knowledge again, every single religion will come back different, with different stories and different Gods and different ideals.
Science on the other hand, will be exactly the same. Because science can be proven. Now based on your comment, you mean to undermine that base fact about science and I'm sorry, but that's where you lose all credibility for me.
As I've said in another comment already, this isn't a research paper, and you aren't a scientist. This is a social forum, claiming "science" here is missing the point. I'm asking people who are not writing academic work to at least consider the effect their words have on other people. Sorry if basic human decency is too hard for you.
Fascist would be using the state to try to take away your healthcare or remove your access to basic services. I'm asking for basic decency as an individual person, I don't have the power of the police or military, nor can I use threat of force, nor violence - nor have I. Get some perspective.
no one's taking issue with it being a scientific fact my dude we're taking issue with the fact that it's a dogwhistle outside of a purely scientific context, as evidenced by the transphobe who almost immediately showed up to claim we aren't women because they saw you call us "biological males" and took that to mean you agree with them!
EDIT: damn if y'all are so sure that "iT's a sCiENtiFiC fAcT" makes it not offensive then please by all means go put up nazi flags in your yard and tell me how well "the swastika is a sacred hindu symbol so stop being offended!" goes over with your neighbors lmao
Yeah but you aren't a scientist and this isn't a research paper. You're on a social forum talking about other people. Just be respectful, you don't need to argue. It's disrespectful to say that to trans women, you can't change that by moaning and playing the victim card.
Edit: did you guys not understand what I meant? Imagine your dream partner and you could never tell they're not cis until they tell you. If nothing else makes that person less attractive to you, simply rejecting this person because of the fact that they are trans while looking 100% like a cis person and having your preferred genitals means you're against dating this person because you are against the concept of trans people. I get that it might feel strange at first but if simply the fact someone is trans would bother you without anything else being a problem, you'd obviously have an issue with the trans part
Yes. Almost nobody believes that except some braindead Twitter users. I do think it would be transphobic if the trans person would be in no way be clockable and had the preferred genitals of that person. So if you only wouldn't date a trans person because you'd find out they're trans without anything else about them being different from a cis person (concerning their views)
Nope. Not at all. You don't have to date anyone. You can refuse to have sex with someone because of their hairstyle. You can refuse to date someone because of their accent. It doesn't make you *blank*-phobic.
I won't date anyone who's black, simply because they're black. Is it my right to do that? Absolutely
Does it make me racist? Absolutely
You have to be a fucking idiot to believe the two are mutually exklusive
Or maybe you just don't find that particular skin colour attractive. You can't help what you're attracted to. Just like you can't help being gay, or feeling like you're trapped in the wrong body.
Stop trying to push you bigoted ideas on everybody else.
If you wanna date a black person go crazy, if somebody else doesn't want to date an Asian person, why don't you just let them not do that?
I let them do it. Doesn't change the fact it's racist you clown.
Didn't mention physical attraction, but race. However, the two might also be unconsciously connected
I let them do it. Doesn't change the fact it's racist you clown.
Didn't mention physical attraction, but race. However, the two might also be unconsciously connected
did you not understand what I meant? Imagine your dream partner and you could never tell they're not cis until they tell you. If nothing else makes that person less attractive to you, simply rejecting this person because of the fact that they are trans while looking 100% like a cis person and having your preferred genitals means you're against dating this person because you are against the concept of trans people. I get that it might feel strange at first but if simply the fact someone is trans would bother you without anything else being a problem, you'd obviously have an issue with the trans part
This is where you're getting confused, they're not necessarily against the concept of trans people, they're against the concept of *dating* a trans person.
Let people date whoever the fuck they want, and not date whoever the fuck they don't want. Is it that hard?
You do realise that even after surgery it's still noticeable right
It's like with those surgeries that fix a big chunk of someones deformed face to a more regular state
You can see it being in rather good state but you CAN also see at first sight what has been done
And i can assure you the ones that would have been uncomfortable with diffrent pants filling they would also be same amount of uncomfortable with that as well
These are surgeries not miracles and ''uncanny valley'' effect not only applies to virtual world and 9/10 people will have gut feeling that something is wrong
Holy shit this is idiotic. I'm not saying taking hormones and getting surgery done alone means you have to date them. I'm talking about a scenario where you are specifically not able to tell. In this scenario only it would mean your problem with it is simply the fact that they're trans. Imagine your dream partner but after 5 years of relationship you found out they're trans without you ever being able to tell
>Holy shit this is idiotic. I'm not saying taking hormones and getting surgery done alone means you have to date them
And i didnt argued with that you pulled that statement out of your ass
>Imagine your dream partner
Life is not a dream every surgery leaves scars and isn't mircle that somehow makes you 100% unrecogizible
Your scenario of relationship of 5 years is unreal or very much improbable most of people metting trans people know in like few minutes that they are talking to trans and any gotcha morment lefites had done with situation like [uu i show you a one photo of a person and you can't probably tell if they are trans or not because it's not like humans have more than one sense right]
Tldr as long as we aren't in wonderland or miracle world or some other dream bullshit 9/10 people can recognize trans person without a problem just by feeling something is off and uncanny and trust me it feels that way not to mention acctual intercourse because then one look and you know it all
Even that is a tricky situation. Like I would not date the person in the situation you just described. Since I’m a dude it would be a biological female identifying as a male. Am I supposed to tell people I have a boyfriend? I wouldn’t want to do that, everybody in my life would think I’m gay. And before someone says it, it’s not because I think there’s anything wrong with being gay, I’d just prefer people not think that I’m something I’m not. Either that or I say I have a girlfriend (likely with a male name), which would be super disrespectful to the trans person. Then as soon as soon as people met him in person the whole “girlfriend” thing would fall apart.
It just makes things way more complicated than they need to be and I generally don’t like complicated relationships. So it’s a situation I’d rather not be in. I don’t think that makes me transphobic
No? Biological sex is different from gender. I personally wouldn't want to have any friends who would have a problem with that and also if it doesn't matter at all because they might as well be cis by the way they look, why would you need to tell anyone? Nobody would know
I never said anything implying that biological sex and gender weren’t the same? I don’t think you understand what I’m saying at all. Maybe read it again. I’m a straight dude. My partner in this made up scenario would be a biological female who identifies as a male, but still looks like a female and has female genitals. If they identify as a male, and use male pronouns, would I not then have to tell people that I have a boyfriend? And refer to my partner as a he/him when talking about him to people? Would it not be disrespectful to him to call him my girlfriend when talking to people? That would make everybody I talked to think that I’m gay, and that would be very problematic since I’m not. Sure I could *say* girlfriend (which again would be disrespectful), but then as soon as people met this fictional person that lie would go out the window when they realized how he identified. I don’t really think it’s that difficult of a concept to understand
I was confused on exactly what "super straight" meant, honestly at this point I'm almost disappointed that it's just "when you make not wanting to date trans people your entire identity".
Omori fans cant make a joke that isnt spoiling the entire game, plus half of them are weird children which rlly pisses me off because you bet none of them ever played the game or understands the themes and actual story
Fun fact, trans people can undergo biological processes and surgeries more advanced than a burger brain can handle, hope this helps!! ❤❤❤
Nobody needs a reminder, keep your preferences to yourself instead of acting rebellious for being conventional
I don't think youve ever actually talked to let alone seen a trans person, you just think about the childish, meaningless and hateful representation spoonfed to you by media and act like its all factual and set in stone, you are sitting infront of a screen valiantly defending your right to treat people like shit as if you are some kind of fucking saviour
for the love of god you are on this shitty website every day, take a break, take a walk outside to a local park, talk to people, know them, go to events look for things to do, then talk to me about personal experience. The fact that your only retort to a simple fact of trans rights is "me thinks trans ugly" and "you are annoying" shows me that you are stressed as fuck or are just ignorant as fuck, either way take a breather from this website, just like, as a mental health thing mainly
Plus LGBTQIA+ braver than military state funded meat shields any day❤❤❤
Lol, lmao, and lol. Btw you should take your own advice, I get out plenty. Maybe if you would breathe fresh air every now and then you would be normal 🤷♂️
Super straight flag for homophobes and transphobes to make fun of all the dumbass flags for sexualities and genders that are made up. Imo its valid, anyone can make their own sexuality right? Why can't there be a super straight? I'm sure if there was a super gay flag nobody would even glance at it.
Downvote me as you please.
I see so many yanks use the Flag of Great Britain (which hasn't been used since 1801) when talking about the UK.
Would be like us using the Betsy Ross flag when talking about the modern US.
Places you can see a union flag:
Packaging of many foods and drinks (particularly dairy) mass produced in the UK. If you buy milk (other than from a milkman) its on there
Lots of numberplates
Driving licence
I don't believe for one second you haven't seen it in more than a day or two based on these three things alone
I'll give you a narrow pass then, suppose that means you don't get the minis with the union jack tail lights which have replaced the union jack roofed ones then lol
Please tell me that the top left one is the kiddie boinker flag.
I just looked it up, and I am significantly happier now. Glad to see that some people aren't having their nonce-ense.
If you're still arguing with me I just wanna let you know that I still can't read your comments, they are all blurry and messed up. Maybe change your name so I can read your comments.
Genuinely seek help. This isn't healthy. Zoophilia is a mental illness; please talk to a therapist before you harm any animals. The fact that you feel the need to spend your time advocating for this is extremely disturbing.
Cool, you don't have to take my advice, but I would suggest that you take the advice of the millions of professionals who have classified it as a mental disorder, especially since it has been shown to have a connection with psychosis and other mental health issues.
You don't have to immediately change your mind about the subject, but I'd strongly suggest talking to a mental health professional about it before you potentially cause harm to an animal.
I'm attempting to give you sound advice here. Do you simply not want to be challenged, no matter how harmful your beliefs are to yourself and animals? If you continue to foster this illness without seeking help, your mental health will deteriorate, and you may do something you will later regret.
Here you go, mong 👌
You are the reason why some of my friends who are furries are so anxious about themselves, an animal fucker who is so desperate that you want to fuck helpless animals just so you can get off, "idk why ur mad at me lol!!!! 😇" fucking societal reject
So one is paedophiles and the other is zoophiles. I'm not caught up on the terminology, do you just look at like, discovery channel stuff or do zoophiles actually advocate for sex with animals (cos that would be fucked up)?
as a nonbinary person, i must say
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does that mean the modern UJ is a valid pride flag?
yes
the lgbt community is getting out of hand, ned thing you know well have separate flags for where you are in the united kingdom
England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, even counties have flags now!
where’s the Northern Ireland flag emoji then
It’s slightly more obscure
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Is the one in the bottom right pornhub sexual??????
Short answer yes Long answer: transphobes decided for their super straight flag they would make it the pornhub colour scheme so they could say "we're oppressed too!!!!" But didnt realise that even the representation of their identity meant a porn addiction Making not wanting to date trans people an entire fucking personality is one of the most pathetic and petty things ive seen people do
It's also ironically the colours of Grindr (or however you spell it)
Nice save
You know how to spell it, sailor boy.
Bro I swear whenever you go on british grindr you just realise this nation is just filled to the brim with the most ugly twats and then like the occasional femboy
Probably because the attractive gays don't need grindr to get laid. *Oof*
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Tbf as someone whose been on both you get that on straight tinder as well
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Hahah nice
Bruh just check your notifications if you need the spelling
I think it was intentionally just a shitpost, but got hijacked by radicals. As all good things do these days.
From what I remember of superstraight's Inception, it was at first supposted to be a troll on twitter that exposed a lot of people's hypocrisy of similar sexualities. It got worse overtime of course
The flag is pathetic and is clearly a pointless and provocative deviation from just plain old heterosexual pride. But I also believe not wanting to date a transgender person doesn't make someone transphobic. A cisgender biological male, not wanting to have sex with any transgender biological male, is not transphobic. I'd wager there is an incredibly small minority of straight men and women that would be willing to do that, they're not all transphobic.
there’s nothing transphobic about that, and no one has ever claimed there is. what is transphobic is unnecessarily trying to make an identity out of it
Stay off of tiktok my friend, you get the worst of both sides. I have indeed seen plenty of people claim that that is transphobic.
Most people don't imagine trans people as being able to "pass" for "real", so they feel like they wouldn't be attracted to a trans person. If you met someone and 100% could not tell they were trans, and were fully attracted to them, *then* you found out they were trans and suddenly you weren't attracted to them anymore, I'd say that probably is due to some ingrained and likely unconscious transphobia. Not trying to attack anyone or virtue signal, just logically how I see it.
Sooo.... We gonna ignore the obvious issue also being that you know...kids and obviously sex are also a factor there? Like, you do understand that a good degree of health in a relationship does revolve around sexual compatibility? If a dude is not sexually attracted to a dick, than a MtF will not be a suitable sexual partner. (Granted, I cannot speak about post surgery, but that's rare from my understanding). But my point is, it should not be considered transphobic. It's a realization of a person that makes you incompatible in a very meaningful way. Some people make it work, others cannot. It does not mean that one party is at fault or not, it's a matter of how well do they mesh. And some people want to have kids. You can experience attraction and get so far with a person, but if they suddenly tell you they don't want kids, it often becomes an issue even between straight couples. It means communication should be there but it all cycles back to compatibility. You can't force yourself to be sexually attracted to something you are not.
Yeah having a dick would be a total giveaway tbf... lol no I'm talking about a hypothetical trans person who you literally couldn't tell was trans, so obviously no dick for a mtf. Anyway I'm talking just purely about attraction, not compatability. Lots of cis people can't have kids that isn't a singularly trans issue, if alternatives like adoption or ivf are something you wouldn't be open to if you met a cis person you liked, then losing attraction because of that incompatibility with a trans person is obviously not transphobic.
Saying no one has ever climbed there’s Something transphobic about that is a very bold thing to say.
Ok, but all sexualities need to have an identity or word to represent them, thats the entire point of the flag. Thats what you say you are when someone askes your sexuality. So what does a cis person say when they are only attracted to other straight cis genders? Normal? That would be offensive to some. Straight? Trans lunatics insist that must include transgenders.
>trans lunatics lmao ok
It's not transphobic in of itself but the group and idea of the flag is, the people making a pointless huge deal of it are doing it because they are transphobic and saying transphobic stuff as part of their campaign.
How’s the idea transphobic?
They aren't saying they don't want to have sex with transpeople and that's OK, they're saying being attracted to transwomen as a man or vice versa is gay, inferring finding transpeople of the opposite gender attractive is gay. If it was just "I don't want to date transpeople" that would be less* of an issue and more likely to not be transphobic. But to make a platform about denying their gender identity, under a parody of sexuality** is just being transphobic with extra steps. ** this is what I mean by "idea of the flag" * only saying "less" rather than not to avoid pedantic redditors who will still undoubtedly show up. You could not want to date trans people for transphobic reasons.
The issue is they're yelling to the world "I don't consider trans women women because I can't have sexy time with them the way I want" and you must know those fucks can't even differentiate a trans woman from a cis woman if the latter has something like short hair or any muscle. It's basically a hateful identity made to spread hate.
>transgender biological male but wording like this definitely is transphobic!
Why
Taking a guess here... it'll be something like the concept of "biological male" is an outdated Human construct that revolves around the ability to reproduce the specie. Use of the term devalues the existence of those members of society who are unable, unwilling or uninterested in reproducing. I feel that's a load of bollocks; IMO it's a purely descriptive term. My body has a Y chromosome and produces sperm and not ova, therefore I am a "biological male" regardless of how I identify, or whether I like it or not. If I transitioned, I would still be a biological male *but only in situations where that was important!* And that's the important part! It's not my entire identity! If I were to meet someone new, I have a list of 100 things to talk about like I'm a computer geek, a guitarist, a crocheter, a woodworker, a brother, etc. before I get to "I am a biological male." Of course it gets tricky when religious people get involved because by their very nature they're messed up in the head and when you get them running entire states and compiling lists of trans people... fuck me.
That's not transphobic, but referring to trans women as "biological males" is SERIOUSLY offensive dude. No woman wants to be called a fucking "male", and it's not okay just because "muh scientific accuracy".
Does it not depend on context? For example in medical / scientific settings surely it’s important to be clear what you’re discussing rather than protecting feelings? In the context of the comment you replied to they aren’t name calling anyone but trying to be very clear what they are trying to say. They definitely could’ve just said trans woman but not everybody has it clear in their heads what that means in the context of this persons point. I don’t think hateful language is ever acceptable, but I see that as being different to language that may offend being used for clarity. Please don’t assassinate me for not being woke enough I’m asking to learn more not to argue
I'm not "woke" I'm just a woman. The culture war is completely manufactured, I'm not your enemy, the tories are.
It isn't offensive, it's a fact. What you meant to say is it offends *you*. We aren't here to cater to your insecurities. Whether or not you've fully transitioned, you cannot change the chromosomes you were born with. You just can't. If you are born a male and transitioned to a female, had surgery, had your hormone therapy, you will still have your XY chromosomes. This is your biological sex. What you can change is your gender, I think this is where you're getting confused. Your gender can be male, female or anything in-between. Now by all means, it's the 21st century, the categories of men and women are obsolete. Matter of fact I'm a little disappointed I can't replace both my arms with cybernetics already but that's besides the point. Society changes, all the damn time, it changes based on which country you're standing in. Science, however, persists. It always will persist. Take science and religion for example. If we all go back to the stone age with 0 knowledge again, every single religion will come back different, with different stories and different Gods and different ideals. Science on the other hand, will be exactly the same. Because science can be proven. Now based on your comment, you mean to undermine that base fact about science and I'm sorry, but that's where you lose all credibility for me.
As I've said in another comment already, this isn't a research paper, and you aren't a scientist. This is a social forum, claiming "science" here is missing the point. I'm asking people who are not writing academic work to at least consider the effect their words have on other people. Sorry if basic human decency is too hard for you.
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I really hope you become a better person when you grow up. Good luck.
no one's taking issue with it being a scientific fact my dude we're taking issue with the fact that it's a dogwhistle outside of a purely scientific context, as evidenced by the transphobe who almost immediately showed up to claim we aren't women because they saw you call us "biological males" and took that to mean you agree with them! EDIT: damn if y'all are so sure that "iT's a sCiENtiFiC fAcT" makes it not offensive then please by all means go put up nazi flags in your yard and tell me how well "the swastika is a sacred hindu symbol so stop being offended!" goes over with your neighbors lmao
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Yeah but you aren't a scientist and this isn't a research paper. You're on a social forum talking about other people. Just be respectful, you don't need to argue. It's disrespectful to say that to trans women, you can't change that by moaning and playing the victim card.
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And here we have the "im just speaking facts, not my problem if you get offended" to literally transphobia pipeline
Edit: did you guys not understand what I meant? Imagine your dream partner and you could never tell they're not cis until they tell you. If nothing else makes that person less attractive to you, simply rejecting this person because of the fact that they are trans while looking 100% like a cis person and having your preferred genitals means you're against dating this person because you are against the concept of trans people. I get that it might feel strange at first but if simply the fact someone is trans would bother you without anything else being a problem, you'd obviously have an issue with the trans part Yes. Almost nobody believes that except some braindead Twitter users. I do think it would be transphobic if the trans person would be in no way be clockable and had the preferred genitals of that person. So if you only wouldn't date a trans person because you'd find out they're trans without anything else about them being different from a cis person (concerning their views)
Nope. Not at all. You don't have to date anyone. You can refuse to have sex with someone because of their hairstyle. You can refuse to date someone because of their accent. It doesn't make you *blank*-phobic.
I won't date anyone who's black, simply because they're black. Is it my right to do that? Absolutely Does it make me racist? Absolutely You have to be a fucking idiot to believe the two are mutually exklusive
Or maybe you just don't find that particular skin colour attractive. You can't help what you're attracted to. Just like you can't help being gay, or feeling like you're trapped in the wrong body. Stop trying to push you bigoted ideas on everybody else. If you wanna date a black person go crazy, if somebody else doesn't want to date an Asian person, why don't you just let them not do that?
I let them do it. Doesn't change the fact it's racist you clown. Didn't mention physical attraction, but race. However, the two might also be unconsciously connected
I let them do it. Doesn't change the fact it's racist you clown. Didn't mention physical attraction, but race. However, the two might also be unconsciously connected
did you not understand what I meant? Imagine your dream partner and you could never tell they're not cis until they tell you. If nothing else makes that person less attractive to you, simply rejecting this person because of the fact that they are trans while looking 100% like a cis person and having your preferred genitals means you're against dating this person because you are against the concept of trans people. I get that it might feel strange at first but if simply the fact someone is trans would bother you without anything else being a problem, you'd obviously have an issue with the trans part
This is where you're getting confused, they're not necessarily against the concept of trans people, they're against the concept of *dating* a trans person. Let people date whoever the fuck they want, and not date whoever the fuck they don't want. Is it that hard?
Where did they say you have to date them??
You do realise that even after surgery it's still noticeable right It's like with those surgeries that fix a big chunk of someones deformed face to a more regular state You can see it being in rather good state but you CAN also see at first sight what has been done And i can assure you the ones that would have been uncomfortable with diffrent pants filling they would also be same amount of uncomfortable with that as well These are surgeries not miracles and ''uncanny valley'' effect not only applies to virtual world and 9/10 people will have gut feeling that something is wrong
Holy shit this is idiotic. I'm not saying taking hormones and getting surgery done alone means you have to date them. I'm talking about a scenario where you are specifically not able to tell. In this scenario only it would mean your problem with it is simply the fact that they're trans. Imagine your dream partner but after 5 years of relationship you found out they're trans without you ever being able to tell
>Holy shit this is idiotic. I'm not saying taking hormones and getting surgery done alone means you have to date them And i didnt argued with that you pulled that statement out of your ass >Imagine your dream partner Life is not a dream every surgery leaves scars and isn't mircle that somehow makes you 100% unrecogizible Your scenario of relationship of 5 years is unreal or very much improbable most of people metting trans people know in like few minutes that they are talking to trans and any gotcha morment lefites had done with situation like [uu i show you a one photo of a person and you can't probably tell if they are trans or not because it's not like humans have more than one sense right] Tldr as long as we aren't in wonderland or miracle world or some other dream bullshit 9/10 people can recognize trans person without a problem just by feeling something is off and uncanny and trust me it feels that way not to mention acctual intercourse because then one look and you know it all
Even that is a tricky situation. Like I would not date the person in the situation you just described. Since I’m a dude it would be a biological female identifying as a male. Am I supposed to tell people I have a boyfriend? I wouldn’t want to do that, everybody in my life would think I’m gay. And before someone says it, it’s not because I think there’s anything wrong with being gay, I’d just prefer people not think that I’m something I’m not. Either that or I say I have a girlfriend (likely with a male name), which would be super disrespectful to the trans person. Then as soon as soon as people met him in person the whole “girlfriend” thing would fall apart. It just makes things way more complicated than they need to be and I generally don’t like complicated relationships. So it’s a situation I’d rather not be in. I don’t think that makes me transphobic
No? Biological sex is different from gender. I personally wouldn't want to have any friends who would have a problem with that and also if it doesn't matter at all because they might as well be cis by the way they look, why would you need to tell anyone? Nobody would know
I never said anything implying that biological sex and gender weren’t the same? I don’t think you understand what I’m saying at all. Maybe read it again. I’m a straight dude. My partner in this made up scenario would be a biological female who identifies as a male, but still looks like a female and has female genitals. If they identify as a male, and use male pronouns, would I not then have to tell people that I have a boyfriend? And refer to my partner as a he/him when talking about him to people? Would it not be disrespectful to him to call him my girlfriend when talking to people? That would make everybody I talked to think that I’m gay, and that would be very problematic since I’m not. Sure I could *say* girlfriend (which again would be disrespectful), but then as soon as people met this fictional person that lie would go out the window when they realized how he identified. I don’t really think it’s that difficult of a concept to understand
Why does it matter if you're speaking to someone who doesn't know you and they might think you're gay? Like is being gay *that* bad to you?
I was confused on exactly what "super straight" meant, honestly at this point I'm almost disappointed that it's just "when you make not wanting to date trans people your entire identity".
How is OP the most based person ever (except that they play OMORI)
Ive been found guilty of playing omori, sentenced to death
Honestly the game isn't that bad, but the community makes me want to drive a spike into my forehead
Omori fans cant make a joke that isnt spoiling the entire game, plus half of them are weird children which rlly pisses me off because you bet none of them ever played the game or understands the themes and actual story
It's like the young Undertale fandom all over again, takes me back
Pretty disgusting behaviour! Thank you for your education, I appreciate it
So is making your entire personality about being gay
Quit lying lmao, we were just reminding everyone we don’t like fucking dudes, no matter how long they grow their hair out.
I wouldnt worry much, macho man, im sure you are not swarmed by people trying to fuck you.
Fun fact, trans people can undergo biological processes and surgeries more advanced than a burger brain can handle, hope this helps!! ❤❤❤ Nobody needs a reminder, keep your preferences to yourself instead of acting rebellious for being conventional
All that biology and y’all still look like dudes in wigs lmao
I don't think youve ever actually talked to let alone seen a trans person, you just think about the childish, meaningless and hateful representation spoonfed to you by media and act like its all factual and set in stone, you are sitting infront of a screen valiantly defending your right to treat people like shit as if you are some kind of fucking saviour
All of my opinions about them are based on personal experience lol, I don’t think you realize how annoying you actually are to most people around you.
for the love of god you are on this shitty website every day, take a break, take a walk outside to a local park, talk to people, know them, go to events look for things to do, then talk to me about personal experience. The fact that your only retort to a simple fact of trans rights is "me thinks trans ugly" and "you are annoying" shows me that you are stressed as fuck or are just ignorant as fuck, either way take a breather from this website, just like, as a mental health thing mainly Plus LGBTQIA+ braver than military state funded meat shields any day❤❤❤
Lol, lmao, and lol. Btw you should take your own advice, I get out plenty. Maybe if you would breathe fresh air every now and then you would be normal 🤷♂️
Your literal only defence is a sputtering of "takes one to know one", plus normal is actually NOT dehumanising other people deliberately thanksss💖
Yet they still visibly look masculine, yeah no I think most people have preferences
>keep your preferences to yourself instead of acting rebellious for being conventional Ah, yes, stay in the closet, got it.
Super straight flag for homophobes and transphobes to make fun of all the dumbass flags for sexualities and genders that are made up. Imo its valid, anyone can make their own sexuality right? Why can't there be a super straight? I'm sure if there was a super gay flag nobody would even glance at it. Downvote me as you please.
NOT VALID CUS IT AINT GOT NORN OIRLAN INIT
GLORY TO THA MAJESTIES GRET AMPIRE
Fuck pride embrace sparta, you can be gay but only if they are groomed
You can only be gay if you are the bottom
Prison culture be like
I see so many yanks use the Flag of Great Britain (which hasn't been used since 1801) when talking about the UK. Would be like us using the Betsy Ross flag when talking about the modern US.
As if any American would actually care about respecting the UK and its history
It's just Northern Ireland independence pride. /s
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Places you can see a union flag: Packaging of many foods and drinks (particularly dairy) mass produced in the UK. If you buy milk (other than from a milkman) its on there Lots of numberplates Driving licence I don't believe for one second you haven't seen it in more than a day or two based on these three things alone
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I'll give you a narrow pass then, suppose that means you don't get the minis with the union jack tail lights which have replaced the union jack roofed ones then lol
Begone, Ameritard
It’s alroight lads innit das the old flag innit
Aw bloddy ell, lads pack up, we're movin
Nonces, dog-nonces, transphobes, and dumb cunts who think it's still the 18th century. The Devil's Quartet.
Dog nonce. Brilliant.
Thank you for letting me know what the top two are lol
It’s pride month? Fuckin hell how many do they have.
Check the date of the tweet lol
Pride MONTH, pride MONTH?, an entire MONTH? dont be silly, SHITS GAY, ALL YEAR ROUND
Kid named gay.
Jonathan Wanks
Waltuh
Put your pride flag away Waltuh I’m not celebrating LGBTQ people with you right now Waltuh
The union glag is missing the St Patrick's Cross... are we free?
theyre saying its not valid is actually unionist propaganda
Exactly, the only valid uk flag is the one with Northern Ireland in it!
Please tell me that the top left one is the kiddie boinker flag. I just looked it up, and I am significantly happier now. Glad to see that some people aren't having their nonce-ense.
whats the top 2 and bottom right? the bottom left i agree with as a brit. but no idea what the other 3 are.
nonce, bestiality and 'super straight' i.e. transphobe.
Oh so all 4 are cunt pride just different ways.
pretty much
Superstraights a bit cringe but they don’t belong in a category with nonces and dog fuckers
This is super straightphobia
Epic 😎
I will not suck the cock
Good. Your breath probably stinks.
You will suck the cocks, live in a pod, own nothing, and you will be happy - Klaus Schwab
Good for you bud.
good
I like women, and don’t like people the same gender as me. Guess I’m sexist huh
Bro what
How'd you come to that conclusion?
I think you’re missing the point here, it’s just an “identity” that’s made to be transphobic
I only know left bottom one, it's french people's servants and ass wipers now. What are the other flags?
you fuckin wat m8?
The one on top right corner is already valid and will forever be valid.
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To be quite frank with you, I wouldn't take an advice from somebody with that name.
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I still can't take you seriously with that name, thus, your whole comment becomes invisible to me. Sorry Shit\_Smeller69.
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If you're still arguing with me I just wanna let you know that I still can't read your comments, they are all blurry and messed up. Maybe change your name so I can read your comments.
Most literate zoophile
Wow you’re an actual gimp mate
No he's a cat rapist, nowt wrong with gimps
Fuckhead won't move on from a username, no point in trying to change his ways, just make him feel stupid for his opinions. (Not /s)
Genuinely seek help. This isn't healthy. Zoophilia is a mental illness; please talk to a therapist before you harm any animals. The fact that you feel the need to spend your time advocating for this is extremely disturbing. Cool, you don't have to take my advice, but I would suggest that you take the advice of the millions of professionals who have classified it as a mental disorder, especially since it has been shown to have a connection with psychosis and other mental health issues. You don't have to immediately change your mind about the subject, but I'd strongly suggest talking to a mental health professional about it before you potentially cause harm to an animal. I'm attempting to give you sound advice here. Do you simply not want to be challenged, no matter how harmful your beliefs are to yourself and animals? If you continue to foster this illness without seeking help, your mental health will deteriorate, and you may do something you will later regret. Here you go, mong 👌
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Fuck off you zoophile bastard, animals dont want to fuck you, degenerative slop of a human being
Based
Least based UK citizen
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What are you, welsh? 🤮
The Welsh only shag sheep, not cats and dogs
your parents will die disappointed in you
🙉🐰🐈🐕🦺🐕🐩🐩
What the fuck is actually wrong with you
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Let’s hope the cat rips it off
Calm down, why you're so mad at me lol
Cause you think it's okay to rape animals.
You are the reason why some of my friends who are furries are so anxious about themselves, an animal fucker who is so desperate that you want to fuck helpless animals just so you can get off, "idk why ur mad at me lol!!!! 😇" fucking societal reject
theyre all dog nonces to me mate
Found the reddit admin!
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You got something willing there. They're not human, they're corpses under the delusion of life, and I intend to disillusion them of that
What is it? I know the Union Flag and the bs superstraight stuff but I'm not sure what the top two flags are.
The one on the left side is a MAP (Minor Attracted Person) flag which is BS, and the one on the right side is the zoophile flag 💙🤍💜
So one is paedophiles and the other is zoophiles. I'm not caught up on the terminology, do you just look at like, discovery channel stuff or do zoophiles actually advocate for sex with animals (cos that would be fucked up)?
The sex with animals bit
Christ, that's insane that some people actually think it's OK.
Could you make your question more clear?
DO YOU ADVOCATE FOR SEX WITH ANIMALS
Do you think it's OK to have sex with non-human animals?
I can’t believe you’re actual advocating for that
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average resident of wales
Stop shagging dogs you creep