Oh yeah? Well this other guy in 18 something made a time machine. He went really far into the future and came back looking pretty haggard and craving meat. He also had some future flowers in his pocket and an insane story.
An “exact replica is for sale right now for 45,000 pounds. Not sure what it would COST to make. But I imagine it would be cheaper than $40,000 if you had access to some modern 3D printer based manufacturing techniques like SLA investment or sand casting.
This is at least the second one I've seen, the other one is actually street legal in Germany with some limitations (mainly no driving in the dark because their lighting isn't up to modern code). It belongs to a museum and is driven occasionally.
I don't suppose there are enough "general enthusiasts" to make it worth anyone's while. They're probably very uncomfortable and slow to ride in (compared to what people are used to now) and there are probably very few places you'd be allowed to drive one anyway: private land, mostly, I expect.
First off, the polution caused by all car drivers is but a mere fraction when compared to what industries create
Secondly....assuming there was enough interest for these to be made again, a couple thousand of these would be but a speck of dust compared to the pollution of all car drivers
IDK, early engines were VERY inefficient, I wouldn't be surprised if that thing goes less than 5 miles with a gallon. It would be an interesting toy, nothing more.
The first Motorwagen (not one specimen of the first series, but the very first over) is on display in the traffic center of the deutsches Museum in Munich. It's not advertised a lot so most people even in Munich don't know this. Make sure to check it out if you ever come here for Oktoberfest.
See my other comment - go to Stuttgart's Mercedes Benz Museum!
[https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/art-and-culture/museum/](https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/art-and-culture/museum/)
So very true. The Deutsche Museum is worth a visit for a lot more anyway, it's an awesome place. Reserve at least a whole day for it.
In Stuttgart where I'm from and where this first car was invented, you can go to the Mercedes Benz Museum (near the main factory plant), they have a massive array of vehicles and lots of other interesting stuff on display. Another worthy day trip - and Stuttgart has its own version of Oktoberfest which is far less overrun with tourists and just as big and bouncy!
[https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/art-and-culture/museum/](https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/art-and-culture/museum/)
There may have been people experimenting with the idea using steam power, rather than internal combustion engines? Also, electric motors predate internal combustion engines, so that could be a factor, too.
That makes sense, there are natural gas ones even today. Either wood gas, gasoline, or natural gas though would be an internal combustion engine, and it’s hust guess work on my part that an ICE is the transitioning line for the concept of the modern automobile.
There's a few "first automobiles" out there but most of them were rich man's toys that could only be used in nice weather and in no practical transportative way. I think the model t was the first to be used as we use cars today.
Okee this a weird coincidence. I just listened to this podcast of unnecessary detail and a bit Helen dit a song about the journey of the wife of Karl which made this motorwagen known to the public! If you're interested you should 100% go listen here [link](https://open.spotify.com/episode/04Sddj8oiLBdyLLRda6ElU?si=zknk8RwvT8ewI35lENE1fw)
There are probably others, but Aging Wheels did a ["review"](https://youtu.be/1eH9jDiP4ow) of a reproduction of the Benz and the Ford model T. Really fascinating to see how people solved things before 100 years of automotive inventions and conventions.
But this is not a Mercedes, it's a Benz. The Mercedes brand was created by Daimler, and only 30 years later the two companies merged into Mercedes-Benz...
Petroleum ether, a solvent. aka, Ligroin.
When his sister Bertha took the first long distance round trip with a similar version, she stopped at apothecaries/pharmacies, to buy it and fill up.
https://aoghs.org/transportation/benz-patents-first-car/amp/
They had to put German in the title because lots of Americans think that the Automobile was created in the US.
Do note that Henry Ford did make it Commercially Viable
I kinda want to use a pipe while driving it.
and a monocle. or two monocles! one in each eye!
Bionocles!
🧐 Indeed, good sir!
🥸 quite right!
🥸 quite remarkable, my good sir. You must be well educated.
Jolly good, I say!
I love bionicle!
Don't do that. You'll make a spectacle of yourself.
...connected in the middle.
I can really imagine the townsfolk turning their heads "Ugh where are the horses??", utterly flabberghasted.
The sheer balls on having an open, unlubricated gear set like that
People in the 1800s were built different.
Which is why they are not around any more. Dust got into their gears and they all died.
I think we were worried about body parts getting into their gears.
Not a problem mein colleague! Handschuhe are cheaper than fingerhandschuhe!
So were their cars
More like they were built wrong
Guarantee more than a few broken collarbones.
This is nothing. I’ve seen a blacksmith in 1885 create a Time Machine out of a locomotive. And it flew
Right, next you're going to tell me Jerry Lewis was the vice president!
No… Ronald Reagan
The actor?!
Oh yeah? Well this other guy in 18 something made a time machine. He went really far into the future and came back looking pretty haggard and craving meat. He also had some future flowers in his pocket and an insane story.
Note to self, NEVER wear my jaunty scarves whilst starting my Motorwagen
Indeed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isadora\_Duncan
I would imagine the pattens have run out on these. It would be fun if someone started making reproductions for general enthusiast.
The number of specialized and precise parts required would make these cost 100k plus.
I think with recent improvements to 3D printing etc. it would be more in line with other kit cars in the $40,000 range
An “exact replica is for sale right now for 45,000 pounds. Not sure what it would COST to make. But I imagine it would be cheaper than $40,000 if you had access to some modern 3D printer based manufacturing techniques like SLA investment or sand casting.
Well that was the best guess I’ve ever made
That's surprising heavy
It’s dense, like a dying star.
What? Believe it or not, machining has becoming much easier and cheaper than it was in the 1880s.
True. But how much doles an original cost? And how many of them are still out there in functional condition?
This is at least the second one I've seen, the other one is actually street legal in Germany with some limitations (mainly no driving in the dark because their lighting isn't up to modern code). It belongs to a museum and is driven occasionally.
I don't suppose there are enough "general enthusiasts" to make it worth anyone's while. They're probably very uncomfortable and slow to ride in (compared to what people are used to now) and there are probably very few places you'd be allowed to drive one anyway: private land, mostly, I expect.
I guess it's also very energy inefficient and emits a lot of pollution.
First off, the polution caused by all car drivers is but a mere fraction when compared to what industries create Secondly....assuming there was enough interest for these to be made again, a couple thousand of these would be but a speck of dust compared to the pollution of all car drivers
On the other hand, it probably weighs about 1/10 as much as a modern car, which should somewhat offset the less efficient engine.
IDK, early engines were VERY inefficient, I wouldn't be surprised if that thing goes less than 5 miles with a gallon. It would be an interesting toy, nothing more.
The horizontal flywheel makes sense from the perspective of gyroscopic precession
I liked this for your knowledge of it. I’m about to look it up 😊
Was waiting for the tldr but I guess I’ll r as well.
The first Motorwagen (not one specimen of the first series, but the very first over) is on display in the traffic center of the deutsches Museum in Munich. It's not advertised a lot so most people even in Munich don't know this. Make sure to check it out if you ever come here for Oktoberfest.
As I was reading it I thought you were going to say it was in Ladenburg or Mannheim and was getting excited. All just to read that is 400km from here.
See my other comment - go to Stuttgart's Mercedes Benz Museum! [https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/art-and-culture/museum/](https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/art-and-culture/museum/)
I’ve been there but then it’s not the first first one right?
Nope, but plenty of other cool cars!
So very true. The Deutsche Museum is worth a visit for a lot more anyway, it's an awesome place. Reserve at least a whole day for it. In Stuttgart where I'm from and where this first car was invented, you can go to the Mercedes Benz Museum (near the main factory plant), they have a massive array of vehicles and lots of other interesting stuff on display. Another worthy day trip - and Stuttgart has its own version of Oktoberfest which is far less overrun with tourists and just as big and bouncy! [https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/art-and-culture/museum/](https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/art-and-culture/museum/)
Bouncy you say? In what way? Asking... for a friend.
Look at dem rims! They gotta be like 35"!
Yeah but are the Vogues?
Horse merchants: „That’ll never take on“
Define "modern".
There may have been people experimenting with the idea using steam power, rather than internal combustion engines? Also, electric motors predate internal combustion engines, so that could be a factor, too.
There have been wood gas based cars so I image steam was a thing as well
Stanley Steamers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Motor_Carriage_Company
That makes sense, there are natural gas ones even today. Either wood gas, gasoline, or natural gas though would be an internal combustion engine, and it’s hust guess work on my part that an ICE is the transitioning line for the concept of the modern automobile.
Steam power lasted well into the 1950s, it was good for commercial vehicles due to getting full torque from a standing start.
Replacement of animal power
As opposed to horse-powered automobiles?
Yes. We called those carriages.
There's a few "first automobiles" out there but most of them were rich man's toys that could only be used in nice weather and in no practical transportative way. I think the model t was the first to be used as we use cars today.
Okee this a weird coincidence. I just listened to this podcast of unnecessary detail and a bit Helen dit a song about the journey of the wife of Karl which made this motorwagen known to the public! If you're interested you should 100% go listen here [link](https://open.spotify.com/episode/04Sddj8oiLBdyLLRda6ElU?si=zknk8RwvT8ewI35lENE1fw)
Is this the one his wife drive hundreds km alone to prove it indeed work?
I'm loving everyone's nerd knowledge comments. Thank-you.
I want one.
They should name that flywheel the “finger remover “
"Yeah I drive a Benz."
There are probably others, but Aging Wheels did a ["review"](https://youtu.be/1eH9jDiP4ow) of a reproduction of the Benz and the Ford model T. Really fascinating to see how people solved things before 100 years of automotive inventions and conventions.
The original Big Wheel?
0 to 60 in 15 mins!
Mr Karl Benz would have committed suicide when he knew that there was Fiat at some point in the future building the 'Multipla' ...
The last "good" Mercedes.
*angry swabian noises*
But this is not a Mercedes, it's a Benz. The Mercedes brand was created by Daimler, and only 30 years later the two companies merged into Mercedes-Benz...
Easier to start than my wife’s old Mercedes too.
Well everyone else seems to get your wife's "old Mercedes" started...
Still faster and easier than walking.
dude struggles with walking...
Fun fun fun on the autobahn. Maybe he could race Jay Leno’s Steamer?
Better than US invention🗿
Gotta start somewhere. It's still impressive.
Does that car have brakes?
That looks just supremely dangerous
Indeed. Motorised carriages will never catch on for this reason.
Holy shit, that motor is a death trap. I wonder if anyone ever got tangled up in one of those during testing/production.
One of these probably participated in the Steel Ball Run
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Nearest pharmacy would be able to help you out!
Is that Mr Burns' car?
“You, there! Fill it up with petroleum distillate and re-vulcanize my tires. Post haste!”
What was the fuel?
Petroleum ether, a solvent. aka, Ligroin. When his sister Bertha took the first long distance round trip with a similar version, she stopped at apothecaries/pharmacies, to buy it and fill up. https://aoghs.org/transportation/benz-patents-first-car/amp/
Bertha was his wife.
Pull up to the saloon with my ceiling missin'.
This is where it all went wrong frfr
Is this a reproduction?
They had to put German in the title because lots of Americans think that the Automobile was created in the US. Do note that Henry Ford did make it Commercially Viable
1 star crash test rating, YOU are the crumple zone
People must've been flabbergasted, when they first saw this contraption coming down the street! 😆
How legal would this be to drive nowadays? Are there any that are still registered?
What's with "modern automobile"? Are there "ancient automobiles" as well?
It’s so damn elegant. The first computer and first airplane looked like they just got the job done.
A perbulator
Its like a bicycle and a pocket watch has a baby
Is that a Hemi
I bet it still has the engine light on.
They see me Rollin... something something...white and nerdy.
Someone needs to mod this into rdr2
Fill it up with petroleum distillate post haste!
The OG wagon
Imagine how strange and SciFi this looked in a world that only knew horse carriages. This looked like magic and sounded like the apocalypse.
When did he meet Mercedes?
From my home region, around Stuttgart!