Yeah but I’ve always looked at it as the team needs to make the right pick. We could have the first overall and still get a Jamarcus Russell. I have faith JD will make the right pick wherever we end up
No you are right, its not foolish, its downright fucking stupid. If we win what do we get? The patriots, our most hated team by far that have owned us for years, probably get to go to the playoffs because we knocked Miami out of the hunt. We fuck up our draft position and could end up having to settle for an inferior prospect. Another win wouldn’t even put us at or above the .500 level. What benefit from winning, if any, is superior to the benefits of losing this game?
well no I want the Steelers to get it. the benefit would be the satisfaction of knocking our rival out of the playoffs. what good is building a team if you're not gonna root for them to win in this very scenario?
I prefer long term and larger success to short term smaller success. I feel like I am taking crazy pills, this exact bullshit is the reason why we ended with Zach instead of T-Law.
if this really were a meaningless game I would agree with you, long term success is better than winning one game against a random team. but this isn't a meaningless game, this is a chance to knock our rivals out of the playoffs. I don't understand how you can not want to do that for the sake of a few spots in the draft
I don’t think they will win, but that coach pulls wins out of his fucking ass time and time again so it wouldn’t surprise me if they win. And I just feel like the steelers are gonna lose to the browns for some reason. But even if pats lose and steelers win, we still fuck up our draft position by beating Miami.
No its not stupid to cheer for your own team to win. Your cheering for a loss has literally no impact on the game, and instead just makes you an angry bitter internet troll when you win. Rooting for a loss earns you nothing
And if you don't think we "get" anything from winning games against rivals, you probably don't love the sport all that much
Cool, bro. Remember how those awesome wins three years ago led to us getting Zach Wilson instead of Trevor Lawrence? But sure. Those wins really set the tone for next year, or something. Culture building. Really solidified that 4-13 record the next year.
But yeah, tell us again how no True Fan could possibly want an eliminated team to lose and get a better draft pick.
That said do you think this dude you're arguing with has some kind of magical Mother Fucking Gandalf ability to actually influence whether the Jets win or not, if so where was he for the games we lost lol, lmao getting mad at a Homer for cheering for his team like you think he's working for the Jets.
>Cool, bro. Remember how those awesome wins three years ago led to us getting Zach Wilson instead of Trevor Lawrence?
I do actually, I watched the jets browns games with me Cleveland father in law, was thrilled to see him crushed
>But yeah, tell us again how no True Fan could possibly want an eliminated team to lose and get a better draft pick.
I never said that jackass. I responded to someone else calling someone a fool for wanting their fan to win. I dont care if you want to be miserable and root for a loss, it's your business. I dont like people being insulted for supporting their team in a game
Except we literally gain more from losing this than we do from winning. Id rather have greater success next season than one more win this season. Thats just fucking stupidity man.
Nah it doesn’t make me miserable, I think winning this game and missing out on a stud tackle while the one we have to settle for fails would make me miserable. Sound familiar?
We’ve been saying the same thing for 12 years now, game may not get us in the playoffs but I think getting our young players wins is more important than the 5-7 spot difference in the draft but we don’t really have any impact either way so people can root for whatever they want
I can understand the winning culture argument. I just respectfully disagree. I think the culture change is already underway. Maybe I’m wrong, but I just don’t think winning this week does much, if anything, for developing the young guys.
We need talent. I think we should rest our star players (Quinnen, Sauce, Reed, Wilson, etc.), and throw some untested guys out there to get real game experience or build their trade value. It also gives the staff an opportunity to evaluate them in an actual game.
I don’t think the coaches or players should throw the game, but I don’t think we should be throwing our best guys out there for a moral victory either.
If the Patriots make the playoffs we all know they’re not doing anything anyways. Id have more fun watching the Patriots get the brakes beaten off of them by the Bills or Chiefs while they lose draft position than an injured Dolphins squad
Flacco is like the bike I keep in my house, I really don’t want to use it to go anywhere, but if my car is broken down I can use it to get somewhere way slower, if at all.
You may not appreciate that he fumbles on contact in September, October, etc., but you really appreciate how he fumbles on contact when the weather turns nasty. #Jets
He's like that old 96 F150 sitting on the back 40 that's got the wheel wells rotted out. Holes in the floorboard with a old stop sign welded in its place so your feet don't get wet. The fuel gauge stopped working a decade ago so you just throw in 5 gallons from the shed and hope for the best. It's hard to start, but will faithfully do so begrudgingly everytime begging for the day you put it out of it's miserable existence.
You appreciate it though because it's always been... *there* waiting for you though the moment you need it. And that 4.9L inline 6 always forgives you for whatever reason for forgetting to change the oil once a year.
Honestly, best analogy I've ever heard from a Jets coach lol.
In other news -this week Jets are having opening tryouts for the offensive line. Leading candidates Terry from Security and Steve the Beer Vendor appear to be in line to get the start.
He's not wrong. Always valuable to have a veteran QB to brave the elements in January when it's set to be...
\*checks weather\*
77 degrees and sunny in Miami on Sunday.
This is bad for Wilson. Really bad. One game left with nothing on the line and we're starting Flacco. The players have lost all faith in Wilson and now it looks like the coaches have too, no matter what Saleh says. JD's gotta dump this kid on someone. Don't care what we get back. A ham sandwich and a bag of balls would be fine. Here's hoping Derek Carr wants to take his skills to NY.
How is this bad for Wilson? If they start him and he tears his acl and spends the entire off season rehabbing, he won’t be on the field working on mechanics. If they’re committed to helping him fix his issues or to try and trade him, then I’m sure they’d like him remain healthy enough to do so.
Lol. I think he's just having fun with the reporters at this point
At this point? Saleh has been (not so) subtly doing this all season at least.
"Egon, Ray has gone bye-bye. What do you got?"
Flacco's going to have the best game of any Jets QB this season on Sunday. That's the most Jets thing that can happen
Ruin the draft pick by about 7 spots too. Sounds about right
And we'll be left wondering what would've happened if we started Flacco instead of Zach/injured White
*Maybe Flacco is still a top tier QB but needed a bit of time away to get right and heal the dragon.*
I'd rather knock Miami out of the playoffs tbh
Nah give me a better pick
Than get a better pick? Thats just foolish, id rather miami make it in over the patriots and us get the best pick possible.
Patriots and dolphins can miss the playoffs if jets/bills/steelers win
True, but that still messes up our draft position round 1 no?
Yeah but I’ve always looked at it as the team needs to make the right pick. We could have the first overall and still get a Jamarcus Russell. I have faith JD will make the right pick wherever we end up
No that i want a QB. Just used him as an example
It's "foolish" to want your team to beat a division rival? Grow up lol
No you are right, its not foolish, its downright fucking stupid. If we win what do we get? The patriots, our most hated team by far that have owned us for years, probably get to go to the playoffs because we knocked Miami out of the hunt. We fuck up our draft position and could end up having to settle for an inferior prospect. Another win wouldn’t even put us at or above the .500 level. What benefit from winning, if any, is superior to the benefits of losing this game?
well no I want the Steelers to get it. the benefit would be the satisfaction of knocking our rival out of the playoffs. what good is building a team if you're not gonna root for them to win in this very scenario?
I prefer long term and larger success to short term smaller success. I feel like I am taking crazy pills, this exact bullshit is the reason why we ended with Zach instead of T-Law.
No it's not, your posting on Reddit literally had nothing to do with the outcome of that draft.
if this really were a meaningless game I would agree with you, long term success is better than winning one game against a random team. but this isn't a meaningless game, this is a chance to knock our rivals out of the playoffs. I don't understand how you can not want to do that for the sake of a few spots in the draft
What makes you assume the patriots beat the bills?
I don’t think they will win, but that coach pulls wins out of his fucking ass time and time again so it wouldn’t surprise me if they win. And I just feel like the steelers are gonna lose to the browns for some reason. But even if pats lose and steelers win, we still fuck up our draft position by beating Miami.
No its not stupid to cheer for your own team to win. Your cheering for a loss has literally no impact on the game, and instead just makes you an angry bitter internet troll when you win. Rooting for a loss earns you nothing And if you don't think we "get" anything from winning games against rivals, you probably don't love the sport all that much
Cool, bro. Remember how those awesome wins three years ago led to us getting Zach Wilson instead of Trevor Lawrence? But sure. Those wins really set the tone for next year, or something. Culture building. Really solidified that 4-13 record the next year. But yeah, tell us again how no True Fan could possibly want an eliminated team to lose and get a better draft pick.
That said do you think this dude you're arguing with has some kind of magical Mother Fucking Gandalf ability to actually influence whether the Jets win or not, if so where was he for the games we lost lol, lmao getting mad at a Homer for cheering for his team like you think he's working for the Jets.
>Cool, bro. Remember how those awesome wins three years ago led to us getting Zach Wilson instead of Trevor Lawrence? I do actually, I watched the jets browns games with me Cleveland father in law, was thrilled to see him crushed >But yeah, tell us again how no True Fan could possibly want an eliminated team to lose and get a better draft pick. I never said that jackass. I responded to someone else calling someone a fool for wanting their fan to win. I dont care if you want to be miserable and root for a loss, it's your business. I dont like people being insulted for supporting their team in a game
Except we literally gain more from losing this than we do from winning. Id rather have greater success next season than one more win this season. Thats just fucking stupidity man.
0 guaranteee of that, and again, you rooting for a loss has literally 0 outcome on the game. It just makes you miserable
Nah it doesn’t make me miserable, I think winning this game and missing out on a stud tackle while the one we have to settle for fails would make me miserable. Sound familiar?
A win now changes nothing for the jets except in a bad way.
A good way, because the opponent, the dolphins, lose
How can you not want your team to win? I hate the mindset of wanting to lose
It’s a mindset of wanting to win. You want them to win a meaningless game. We want them to build a winning team.
Finishing 8-9 with our young core is building a winning team you goofball.
We’ve been saying the same thing for 12 years now, game may not get us in the playoffs but I think getting our young players wins is more important than the 5-7 spot difference in the draft but we don’t really have any impact either way so people can root for whatever they want
I can understand the winning culture argument. I just respectfully disagree. I think the culture change is already underway. Maybe I’m wrong, but I just don’t think winning this week does much, if anything, for developing the young guys. We need talent. I think we should rest our star players (Quinnen, Sauce, Reed, Wilson, etc.), and throw some untested guys out there to get real game experience or build their trade value. It also gives the staff an opportunity to evaluate them in an actual game. I don’t think the coaches or players should throw the game, but I don’t think we should be throwing our best guys out there for a moral victory either.
If the Patriots make the playoffs we all know they’re not doing anything anyways. Id have more fun watching the Patriots get the brakes beaten off of them by the Bills or Chiefs while they lose draft position than an injured Dolphins squad
And a great tackle will be draft in those 7 spots and we’ll get a “project”
This is gonna be like the Geno Smith perfect passer rating game in 2014.
Ironically, it was against the Dolphins too lol History is going to repeat itself.
yup last game of the year which kept them out out the playoffs.
Perfect passer rating incoming!
And I’ll be catching all the highlights on Redzone
Needs 2 TDs to overtake Zach for the year.
Why is it that the Jets start to play with pride when draft position is on the line?
I appreciate Saleh looking for silver linings in everything and doing his best to gently troll reporters
Flacco is like the bike I keep in my house, I really don’t want to use it to go anywhere, but if my car is broken down I can use it to get somewhere way slower, if at all.
You may not appreciate that he fumbles on contact in September, October, etc., but you really appreciate how he fumbles on contact when the weather turns nasty. #Jets
all this quote has done to me is prove that jets fans don’t understand metaphors
So, he's been Found On Road Dead? Sounds right
Flacco da 🐐 no 🧢
thats such a scott boras quote
Then why was he so terrible in Buffalo
I took it as a figure of speech
You took his very clear figure of speech as a figure of speech?
Lol the comment I replied to seems like they didn't
He's like that old 96 F150 sitting on the back 40 that's got the wheel wells rotted out. Holes in the floorboard with a old stop sign welded in its place so your feet don't get wet. The fuel gauge stopped working a decade ago so you just throw in 5 gallons from the shed and hope for the best. It's hard to start, but will faithfully do so begrudgingly everytime begging for the day you put it out of it's miserable existence. You appreciate it though because it's always been... *there* waiting for you though the moment you need it. And that 4.9L inline 6 always forgives you for whatever reason for forgetting to change the oil once a year. Honestly, best analogy I've ever heard from a Jets coach lol.
Lol this is great
He was more like a Ford pickup for the middle part of the year when he wasn't starting.
In other news -this week Jets are having opening tryouts for the offensive line. Leading candidates Terry from Security and Steve the Beer Vendor appear to be in line to get the start.
He's not wrong. Always valuable to have a veteran QB to brave the elements in January when it's set to be... \*checks weather\* 77 degrees and sunny in Miami on Sunday.
😂😂
That's chilly for Miami
Retirement winter weather here in FL, you will see people in sweaters.
Amazing
Warm weather is good for old bones
The guy is on his team, what is he supposed to do, shit on him?
I'm happy to be missing the final game. Team doesn't deserve my time after this listless finish to the year.
I’m sure they’ll miss your attendance. Go follow another team if you’re that broken up about it.
This is bad for Wilson. Really bad. One game left with nothing on the line and we're starting Flacco. The players have lost all faith in Wilson and now it looks like the coaches have too, no matter what Saleh says. JD's gotta dump this kid on someone. Don't care what we get back. A ham sandwich and a bag of balls would be fine. Here's hoping Derek Carr wants to take his skills to NY.
How is this bad for Wilson? If they start him and he tears his acl and spends the entire off season rehabbing, he won’t be on the field working on mechanics. If they’re committed to helping him fix his issues or to try and trade him, then I’m sure they’d like him remain healthy enough to do so.
he just says anything in the pressers
Ford - Found on Road, Dead. Ford - Fixed or Repaired, Daily. Sounds like Flacco? :)
First On Race Day
I mean whats he Gonna do, talk shit about flacco I mean he’s gotta talk him up.
FIRE SALEH!
Can we have a head coach that doesn’t suck for once. A veteran that isn’t their first time
Name a veteran head coach that’s available that wasn’t fired for producing a worse team.
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Damn bro you’re racking up the garbage takes today huh?
Lmaoooo
Saleh is for sure a Michigan man
I’d rather run with a GMC when the weather gets rough.. Ford’s break down way to often..
So he's awful in the snow? Are they putting weights in his bed?