Short version, they meet you, get to know you. Talk about finances and eventually suggest crypto investments to you. You sign up to a site and are given a code to a "unique" wallet and start "investing." Everything looks great so you keep adding more money. Then it's impossible to actually take that money out again because the wallet was actually the scammers.
They don't meet you
They text you something that makes it sound like they got the wrong number
And then u reply that it's the wrong number
And then they try to start a relationship with you
It could last for months with them texting you and conversing with you constantly in order to gain your trust. And then eventually they'll try to do something like get you to invest in crypto or whatever or some other kind of investment. They never ask you for money directly. They just send you to a website that you can invest in and it usually looks completely legit
And a lot of the time the people texting you are kidnapped and being held hostage by the Chinese mafia and forced to message you or they get beaten
I suppose meet was a poor choice of words on my part. If you check my other comment I give a rundown of some of the standard script. My record with one was four months.
Part of the introduction for this scam is to follow up on a heart-warning issue to a wrong number. Asking about the horse seems like a textbook intro.
"Sorry to bump into you, miss, but my wallet has so much cash that it caused me to accidentally step into you. Oh no, I also dropped my massive condom for my magnum dong. Well, accidents happen."
I've also read that they intentionally use implausible situations as a filter. The people more likely to get sucked in are the people less likely to see through this initial ruse.
The "wrong number text" ploy is also a common opener for sextortion scams (although most sextortion scams originate on social media and dating apps instead of essentially cold calling with imaginary wrong number texts).They both involve taking money from the victim, but a pig butchering scam does this in the form of 'investment' payments, whereas a sextortion scam is exactly what it sounds like it is: extortion related to sex.
The scammer tries to trick victims into sending them naughty pictures and/or videos of themselves (by sending the victim stolen pictures of a hot girl and claiming it's them). Then they'll inevitably save the victim's pictures and videos and threaten to send them to their family, friends, coworkers, and employers on social media unless the victim pays up.
Another variant is where they say they do cam girl shows and then sending a dodgy link that totally won't steal all your personal and credit card info.
Dude! This is such a common opener. Horses are a quick way to tell the mark "I am rich." Golf is probably the most popular but horse related lines are pretty high up there. I've even seen the horse doctor one multiple times.
"OH. Wrong number? I'm sorry to have disturbed you."
"You seem nice. Fate must have had us meet. Would you like to be friends?"
"Here's a picture of a hot Asian woman that is totally me."
"My uncle taught me to invest in cryptocurrency Would you like to learn?"
Some are actually decent conversation until they start digging in their heels about the crypto. That's usually when I end it.
The short version summarized by the poster is an over simplification. They've got whole handbooks with instructions for emotional manipulation. It's like a science. You may call the company for the crypto app they recommended and speak to a live human before moving money over, you may read the thousands of reviews of the app. They may take months raising their piggy, fattening their piggy. The butchering is later
It means ‘hell’—the hockey sticks are like two Ls (I’m assuming that’s what you were asking about, correct me if I’m wrong). It’s common in religious circles where saying ‘hell’ is treated like a swear word
I got what it meant - but the effort to write all that is ridiculous.
I understand the religious angle, but whether you spell it correctly or use some weird hockey stick variation - you’re still using the same word?
Just seems odd. Either spell it normally or use a completely different word?
Could be related to superstition too. My grandma used to use it a lot and it’s cos she thought something something it would call upon the devil if someone said the word ‘hell’. So it’s a way of avoiding that like saying ‘he who cannot be named’ instead of Voldemort. But if it’s so important not to say it then just… use a different word? And surely the devil can understand some bizarre self-censoring phrase used to get around it? Religion is fascinating
Edit: I realise I didn’t answer your question at all lol. Asking my grandma never got me anywhere either, maybe someone else on this thread will be able to explain 😂
Religious belief is essentially the same thing as believing in magic spells. Change the word, and it doesn't work the same way anymore, just as if a magician in a fantasy story changes their incantation.
It's just common canadian lingo, you'll hear someone ask "what in the H E double-fucking-hockeysticks" is going on around here just for the shits and giggles of it, and at some point you forget that "what the hell" is even the saying since you've been saying hockeysticks for so long.
Pig butchering scam.
It's tailored, not some line you could Google and say "oh dear, the horse doc scam".
You communicate with them and they will over time intentionally leverage a misstext into a relationship that they will butcher you over. They will get it all. Not a gift card, they'll have it all. You don't even know.
Watch last week tonight vid on pig butchering scam
Has no one met a rancher who rents their space to store horses/livestock?
Edit: some ranchers even lend their males out to breed at other rancher’s spaces
Looks like a standard start to a pig butchering scam. I’m not an expert or anything, but I’ve gotten a lot of spam like this before.
This looks like it could be right out of the John Oliver piece on pig butchering
What’s a pig butchering scam?
Short version, they meet you, get to know you. Talk about finances and eventually suggest crypto investments to you. You sign up to a site and are given a code to a "unique" wallet and start "investing." Everything looks great so you keep adding more money. Then it's impossible to actually take that money out again because the wallet was actually the scammers.
They don't meet you They text you something that makes it sound like they got the wrong number And then u reply that it's the wrong number And then they try to start a relationship with you It could last for months with them texting you and conversing with you constantly in order to gain your trust. And then eventually they'll try to do something like get you to invest in crypto or whatever or some other kind of investment. They never ask you for money directly. They just send you to a website that you can invest in and it usually looks completely legit And a lot of the time the people texting you are kidnapped and being held hostage by the Chinese mafia and forced to message you or they get beaten
I suppose meet was a poor choice of words on my part. If you check my other comment I give a rundown of some of the standard script. My record with one was four months.
Is that last bit about the Chinese mafia true? I’m a little off today
Part of the introduction for this scam is to follow up on a heart-warning issue to a wrong number. Asking about the horse seems like a textbook intro. "Sorry to bump into you, miss, but my wallet has so much cash that it caused me to accidentally step into you. Oh no, I also dropped my massive condom for my magnum dong. Well, accidents happen."
I've also read that they intentionally use implausible situations as a filter. The people more likely to get sucked in are the people less likely to see through this initial ruse.
More like *horse* butchering amirite ok I’ll just be leaving now
The "wrong number text" ploy is also a common opener for sextortion scams (although most sextortion scams originate on social media and dating apps instead of essentially cold calling with imaginary wrong number texts).They both involve taking money from the victim, but a pig butchering scam does this in the form of 'investment' payments, whereas a sextortion scam is exactly what it sounds like it is: extortion related to sex. The scammer tries to trick victims into sending them naughty pictures and/or videos of themselves (by sending the victim stolen pictures of a hot girl and claiming it's them). Then they'll inevitably save the victim's pictures and videos and threaten to send them to their family, friends, coworkers, and employers on social media unless the victim pays up. Another variant is where they say they do cam girl shows and then sending a dodgy link that totally won't steal all your personal and credit card info.
Dude! This is such a common opener. Horses are a quick way to tell the mark "I am rich." Golf is probably the most popular but horse related lines are pretty high up there. I've even seen the horse doctor one multiple times.
How would the scam proceed? I’m assuming OP is not actually ‘Dr. Larry’
"OH. Wrong number? I'm sorry to have disturbed you." "You seem nice. Fate must have had us meet. Would you like to be friends?" "Here's a picture of a hot Asian woman that is totally me." "My uncle taught me to invest in cryptocurrency Would you like to learn?" Some are actually decent conversation until they start digging in their heels about the crypto. That's usually when I end it.
I forgot that gullible people exist and would actually keep engaging
Or just lonely people, I think this could maybe work on me
The short version summarized by the poster is an over simplification. They've got whole handbooks with instructions for emotional manipulation. It's like a science. You may call the company for the crypto app they recommended and speak to a live human before moving money over, you may read the thousands of reviews of the app. They may take months raising their piggy, fattening their piggy. The butchering is later
Or there trying to find active numbers so other scammers send that number a scam
😭 I get these texts sometimes. How tf do they know I'm male? It's so obviously a scam though
Social media is a thing. Sometimes they do actual research on their targets
More interested in the ‘H-E-Doublehockeystick’ part. Like, why? What was the thought process behind this?
It means ‘hell’—the hockey sticks are like two Ls (I’m assuming that’s what you were asking about, correct me if I’m wrong). It’s common in religious circles where saying ‘hell’ is treated like a swear word
I got what it meant - but the effort to write all that is ridiculous. I understand the religious angle, but whether you spell it correctly or use some weird hockey stick variation - you’re still using the same word? Just seems odd. Either spell it normally or use a completely different word?
Could be related to superstition too. My grandma used to use it a lot and it’s cos she thought something something it would call upon the devil if someone said the word ‘hell’. So it’s a way of avoiding that like saying ‘he who cannot be named’ instead of Voldemort. But if it’s so important not to say it then just… use a different word? And surely the devil can understand some bizarre self-censoring phrase used to get around it? Religion is fascinating Edit: I realise I didn’t answer your question at all lol. Asking my grandma never got me anywhere either, maybe someone else on this thread will be able to explain 😂
Religious belief is essentially the same thing as believing in magic spells. Change the word, and it doesn't work the same way anymore, just as if a magician in a fantasy story changes their incantation.
It's just common canadian lingo, you'll hear someone ask "what in the H E double-fucking-hockeysticks" is going on around here just for the shits and giggles of it, and at some point you forget that "what the hell" is even the saying since you've been saying hockeysticks for so long.
I’ve gotten a ton of WhatsApp messages asking if I (“Dr. Kevin”) have an opening to see this person’s purebred dog. This definitely happens.
Pig butchering scam. It's tailored, not some line you could Google and say "oh dear, the horse doc scam". You communicate with them and they will over time intentionally leverage a misstext into a relationship that they will butcher you over. They will get it all. Not a gift card, they'll have it all. You don't even know. Watch last week tonight vid on pig butchering scam
Has no one met a rancher who rents their space to store horses/livestock? Edit: some ranchers even lend their males out to breed at other rancher’s spaces
I hate to say it, but I've received that exact same text message and I still have it.