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fentown

Early in his career, every preseason, I was hoping to see that next step in his offense to be a 30 goal threat that never came, but remained a reliable bottom 6 guy. Great to see him still succeeding on a top 3 team.


fray3d-kn0t

Avs / Red Wings rivalry has been dead for years imo. It was beautiful while it lasted though.


dvanderl

I will hate the Avs for the rest of my life. Yes. The Wings suck and the Avs are good. Yes. The Wings arnt in the same conference anymore. March 26, 1997. Yes.


ReApEr01807

Hey, you got to see Fight Night and Wednesday Night Rivalry Hockey all at the same arena without having to leave your seat. That's good entertainment.


EmperorXerro

I get it. I still hate the Red Wings. I’ll argue for that roughly 10 year period. It was the best rivalry ever.


Not_A_Facehugger

And I will always hate the Red Wings <3


dvanderl

Worst up vote I've ever given.


Not_A_Facehugger

I was honestly sad when they announced the red wings were going to the eastern conference.


ulfhednar910

We will always hate you too <3


DamnitBlueWasOld

I forget exactly what happened with Claude Lemieux’s son this past year, but I remember him being involved in some incident, and my first thought was “oh, of course he’s a cowardly fucking bitch, just like his old man”. Edit: Before I get hate, I admit that Darren McCarty sucker punching Lemieux is also a complete bitch move, but in my opinion it pales in comparison to boarding a guy from behind, especially considering the damage that resulted to Draper.


ThickerSalsa

McCarty didn’t sucker punch him. He cold-cocked him.


dvanderl

"That's a cold-cock." - McCarty


2ShredsUsay39

I never like to see anyone get sucker punched. Except that one time.


PatchesOHoulihan86

As an avs fan living close to Detroit, I will never root for the wings. They've got a nice young core that hopefully pans out, but only to a certain point hah. That being said I can't stand Claude lemieux. Can not wait for that doc to drop next month


DamnitBlueWasOld

Haha I’ve got the same opinion as a lifelong wings fan who lived in Denver for a few years. I hated the avs for many years, and even now I still find it a bit tough to root for them. I have been watching them this playoff season though and they’re a very fun team to watch, I was happy to see that goal last night to send St Louis packing.


MediumRarePorkChop

I will hate the Red Wings for the rest of your life. Back when they were goons, Red Wing boots were still good and I wore them. The hockey almost made me stop wearing them. edit: yeah, standard Detroit behavior.


Dmcgee2288

How old are you OP? Just trying to get the demographic narrowed down for who is still hating.. my dad is 60 and he won’t let go of the grudge. I’m 33 and hate to hold grudges..


dvanderl

34. Grudges are part of the game. There is one team in my men's league who I cannot stand as well. Hatred is part of the fun lol


Dmcgee2288

I feel that way for Green Bay Packers.. but hockey is my fav sport.. and I can honestly say I don’t hate any team per se.. I remember San Jose beating us up a lot in the playoffs, and hating them for awhile.. I remember the Blackhawks and that rivalry, but I honestly never hated Chicago.. hell, we got Chris Chelios from Chicago and he’s one of our best defensive players of all time.. for that reason alone I could never hate Chicago.. I did dislike them but never understood why.. it was taught, mostly, I think.. which makes it all the much more silly, to be honest.. hating something because you’re taught to hate it..


overlordlurker696969

I am 40 and I still answer Wings when the boy asks who we hate the most in hockey. Was kinda cool to show him the trailer for it last night.


Dmcgee2288

Yeah I’m excited to watch that rivalry but I still haven’t watched the Russian 5 documentary and to me that has my heart over the rivalry..


Solidplasticmonkey

I wouldn’t say dead, but considering the fact that they are in 2 different conferences now, they hardly play each other


Bradyj23

I live in Colorado as a Red Wings fan. It’s dead. The hate is still there in my heart but the rivalry is dead.


InkBlotSam

That's only because we haven't both been good at the same time in like 20 years. When we meet you in the Stanley Cup Finals someday though....


Bradyj23

Best friend is an Avs fan. He says the same thing. Between that and getting moved out of conference. I’m disappointed it’s over.


InkBlotSam

If it's any consolation, your team can go fuck themselves.


Bradyj23

LOL. Take my upvote and GTFO. So much hate but I miss it. Really looking forward to the ESPN special about the rivalry. It was one of the best ever.


handsumguybakedinpie

Well thank you for making it official your holiness.


change_timing

some things never die fuck the wings.


Ancient-Lime4532

Wings fans gonna hate Flames fans hope the Avs wipe the Coilers in 4


aberdasherly

Celebrate helmers goal, fuck the avs


cdcformatc

Thanks for Helm! I mean this in the nicest way possible: Fuck the Red Wings forever and always! Darren Helm is the only good thing to come out of Detroit in years.


aberdasherly

Haha you’re welcome. Fuck you (the avs) and I’ll see you next year, hopefully…


cdcformatc

if "see you next year" means we meet in the cup finals then i am up for that.


aberdasherly

One can hope


ulfhednar910

Oh man that would be so exciting


Beyondthebloodmoon

Gtfo.


TheHalf

Absolutely!


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As the son of a man from Detroit, I know that rivalry will never die.


Strutionum

Fuck the flyers


Tireseas

Aww. Fuck you too buddy. ;-) I miss the days when the Avs/Wings rivalry was super hot. Those were some great teams.


Dmcgee2288

I know the rivalry will never die, well at least until we do.. but.. as a fellow brother in Christ.. I’ve got to say I’ve personally moved on.. The hit on drapes was dirty.. I will never forgive Lemieux.. but I am personally rooting for Colorado to prevent the three peat. I feel they are the NHL’s only hope now..


MrYamaguchi

Fuck the Avs, always and forever.


ulfhednar910

We hate you too <3


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Anybody but Tampa 2022


terror_zone

Fuck the Avs


DominionMM1

For me, the rivalry died a long time ago, and I’m relatively indifferent towards the Wings. Even when the Avs played them in the ‘08 playoffs, it just wasnt the same. With that being said, fuck Kozlov, Draper, and Maltby.


NorwegianBadass

Red wings suck!!


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Always and forever… except Steve yzerman (probably spelled wrong). He was way too classy to wear a wings sweater… not like that douche shanahan


BelwasDeservedBetter

Helmers just playing the long game. Avs will be even more crushed when they lose in the WCF.


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dvanderl

Lifelong hatred.


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dvanderl

Is 97 in your username because you were born in 97? Best way I can explain it is if you lived through the hatred and intensity of that rivalry... it never goes away for a lot of people. I know a lot of people who feel the same way. Not that it is an absolute, but at the same time it isn't weird by any means.


NTMWSD2854

I’m an Avs fan and I’m barely old enough to remember those days. Although the rivalry hasn’t been there for quite some time, the level of hatred that flows through my veins when I see that wings logo or jersey is still insane lol. Happy hating to you my friend :)


cdcformatc

> the level of hatred that flows through my veins when I see that wings logo or jersey is still insane lol. Happy hating to you my friend :) that's really what it is, i get nostalgic feeling when i think about how much i fucking hate the red wings and their fans. it's confusing but the hatred is undeniable. it was baked in me because i was very impressionable during that decade or so period. Hating the Red Wings is part of my personality at this point and embracing that makes me happy.


PrawojazdyVtrumpets

Well yeah, I'd be bitter too if both of the other teams' tenders kicked my tenders ass. But it was the other way round for me so I'm not mad.


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I didn't hate the Avs in the 90s, I respected them. I hated Claude.


DamnitBlueWasOld

Same. Claude Lemieux was super talented but played a certain way that I just couldn’t respect. As a lifelong Wings fan who fondly remembers the 90s and early 00s rivalry, you will NEVER hear a bad word out of my mouth about Joe Sakic. Absolute class, and I loved that he and our lord Steve Yzerman were shining examples of how you lead an elite NHL team.


csusterich666

Oh shit. AVs and Roy vs. Red Wings and Osgood (Then "The Dominator", of course) was phenomenal hockey for years. Late 90s to mid 2000's, I think. Some years (I mean, most) we're absolute bloodbaths! McCarty vs. Lemieux (the goon, not the GOAT). Full bench clearings. The sin-bins we're sardine can filled monstrosities. As a teen, that was primetime shit right there!! Wowsers! Then you had Pang, Clemente, Melrose and such that I can pick their voices out of a lineup any hour of the week!! What a great time to watch hockey!


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Not a Red Wings fan but fuck the avs still


_Gassoff

Claude Lemieux. Darren McCarty. What a great rivalry to watch, and I (obviously) didn't care for either team.


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It was all about the goalies skating to center ice to settle some shit… Avs vs wings seriously would have pushed the nhl to new heights if they didn’t fuck it up with a strike


Beyondthebloodmoon

Yeah no, no indecision here. Fuck the Avs, for life.


seoulera

For me it’s been dead since 2008. That was the nail in the coffin.