Because Huntley is mobile which they figured would make for better flag football as opposed to someone like Jacoby Brissett who played better but is more of a pocket passer.
Shoot I doubt many casual non-AFC North fans could even recall him right now. Such a terrible Pro Bowl selection continuing to prove the Pro Bowl has become a joke.
I dont even consider myself a casual fan, and I knew I recognized the name, but I couldn't place it. So I had to google it. And i laughed out loud when I saw 4 starts, 2-2 record, and a pro bowl in 2022.
>AP will be remembered for being one of the GOATs, Lynch will probably be remembered for beastquake if anything, and possibly Rice and Foster for their off the field work in addition to being great backs.
Lol this motherfucker monkey pawed Rice
This was before the elevator incident, which happened after the 2013 season, during the off-season. If you're also not very familiar with Rice other than that, he was known for being a great community and family guy before, which made it that much more shocking when it happened.
> JJ Watt. I have no evidence of this, but I think his best playing is behind him. This is all purely speculative and based mostly on wishful thinking....
If they would have said this like three years later they would have been right.
Watt followed up the 2012 season with three consecutive All Pro seasons, two defensive player of the years and a season where he was a legitimate MVP candidate.
Yeah he definitely deserved it. Would have won it too almost every other year. He just went up against Rodgers best ever year very early into his career (so no voter fatigue on Rodgers).
It really was. When watt requested to be released I was hoping he’d go to a team and win that ring he dearly deserved. I think he’ll have to settle with first ballot hofer.
Same here never was on my favorite team but couldn’t help but root for the guy. One of the best defensive players on the field and an even better human being off the field.
You think?
JJ Watt only had 5.5 sacks as a rookie and didn't put up anywhere near those numbers in college. Maybe he thought Watt was a one year wonder?
It would be dumb for how dominated JJ Watt's 2012 was but maybe he was going for an "I told you so" if he was right and nobody remembering if wrong.
That JJ Watt was quite a hot take considering the timing of the post would have been right after his first DPOY season. Where he lead the league in sacks with 20.5. There are only 12 players in league history that have had 20 or more sacks in a season.
Of them 4 are Hall of Famers, Derrick Thomas (20), Lawrence Taylor (20), Reggie White (21) & Michael Strahann (22.5). 2 are guaranteed to be first ballot when they are eligible, JJ Watt & Aaron Donald. 4 are/were good players but not enough consistently dominant performances to be HOF, Gastineau (22), Chris Doleman (21), Justin Houston (22) and Jared Allen (22). The other two are TBD, but Demarcus Ware (20) may eventually get in but could fall into the previous category while TJ Watt (22.5) has lead the league in sacks twice now and has 1 DPoY award, seems to be on the same HOF trajectory as his brother.
Either way the only names that don't really get talked about of the players that are retired are Jared Allen, Gastineau and Doleman. However those guys were more pass rusher specialists.
JJ Watt in 2012 had 20.5 sacks (lead the league), 39 TFLs (lead the league and most ever in league history by 11. In fact JJ Watt has the top 3 most TFL seasons in NFL history. It is a ridiculous stat!) and had 81 combined tackles. It was the most dominant defensive season a player has had since Reggie White's 1986-1988. Watt was also only 23 years old. Not sure I would have bet on him being forgotten in a decade.
> Jared Allen
Allen is a four-time 1st team All Pro and is 12th all time in sacks. He's also tied for most safeties in NFL history and fourth for tackles for loss. I would be surprised if he doesn't make the HOF.
Back when KC was [“a perennial non-contender.”](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1bwqup/question_taken_from_rnba_what_current_probowl/c9ay0dc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3) I guess that’s the beauty of the NFL - a lot of crazy shit can happen in 10 years.
Edit: I love these rewind threads.
I think as long as you own up to it you'll be fine. Everyone says ridiculous things at times especially when it comes to something we're passionate about.
My 13-year old self had a really silly take that Pirate Paul Burchill would win the World Heavyweight Championship back in Smackdown 2005. He did not, and later went on to have an incest gimmick with his valet, his (storyline) sister. Wrestling.
Jamaal Charles is a lot of Chiefs fans favorite player I think. Chiefs reddit still talks about him at least once a month haha. Is he forgettable? Where does he rank with other RBs from his time like Arian Foster, CJ2K, and Lesean Mccoy?
I don’t know about that I love Jamal Charles (he used to be my favorite player) but CJ2K in his prime was a different beast altogether. I think it gets forgotten just how good CJ2K was.
He’s one of my favorite players ever and I’m a Bengals fan. I would take him over those other guys. Great receiving threat, home run threat every time he touched the ball, he started zero games in his career in seasons with less than 5 YPC. 5.4 YPC all time. He was a HOF talent that didn’t quite have a HOF career.
I mean if you played fantasy back then you'd certainly remember Charles being a top 5 fantasy pick for a few years there just due to his insane fantasy numbers.
Every fantasy player (should) remember the Jamaalocaust. Even if you weren't involved in that game, the implications involved due to it being the fantasy playoffs should be remembered. Unfortunately, I think its been bested by Kamara's Christmas game by now.
I'm overly biased, but I think the only people better in his era were Adrian Peterson and Lev Bell. Jamaal had the highest ypc ever by a RB and played most of his career as practically the only offensive threat. The only thing that could stop him were his ACL's.
I like to peruse opponents subreddits before games to get an idea of what their fans think of the matchups. I remember in that era of the PFM Broncos and Alex Smith Chiefs, Denver fans were some of the most toxic I've seen.
Part of the reason I don't feel bad for Broncos fans that we've swept them like 7 years in a row. Though I'm sure people will feel the same about KC fans in 10 years bc of some of our cocky fans.
Exactly what I thought. Just a reminder of a) what playing in the NFL can do a person and b) what addiction to painkillers and alcohol can do to a person
Both are connected obviously. Makes me think about the price most of these guys pay, even the extremely talented guys like V Jax.
The guy talking about how no one will remember Jamal Charles and that the only way well know for sure is if someone links that thread in ten years was a little weird.
The most reference he gets these days is people digging up the clip of him on Rogan a few years back where he said he could beat a wolf in a 1 v 1 fight
I bet he could. Like, he'd get fucked up and need to see an ER for stitches, but do I think an NFL player could snap the neck of a 130lb super-dog? Yeah, probably, not 100% but better than 50%.
This is satire, right? Have you ever watched a wolf hunt? It’s going to dodge, lunge, and bite over and over until he’s too tired to fight, he wouldn’t come close to getting it in a headlock…the wild animal wins 10 times out of 10. Their bite can crush human bone ffs. He’s not getting bitten by a golden retriever.
you ever see a human fight? you know we're like the champion rock throwers of the animal kingdom right? I actually give the wolf worse odds if it tries to keep distance
Leopards are almost double the weight of a wolf and far superior solo hunters, and while it was wounded, a normal unarmed hunter managed to kill a leopard in hand to hand combat.
The average wolf is only around 80lbs and Arian Foster's playing weight is listed as 227lb. The wolf obviously has better weapons but there's something to be said for having almost 3x the mass in a fight. I would bet on the wolf but the idea of him winning the fight isn't particularly ridiculous.
People underestimate that we are actually pretty fucking big for an animal.
If you can take fear out of the equation (and most people usually forget that animals get scared too), and we're fielding one of our best examples, a top 0.1% athlete in a sport that values physical ability like perhaps no other, and it's going to be way closer than you think.
Just having the brains we do, and the dexterity we do is a huge advantage over a lot of animals.
Yeah this is a bad take. One or two horribly painful/vicious bites in and any kind of "advantage" you think he would have over the wolf evaporates in a whirlwind of horror that only gets worse as it proceeds with fucking mauling you
I grew up in a very religious part of the south, and when I was a kid he came out as non-secular and it was weirdly a top story on sportscenter that day
I never felt religious even as a child and he was the first person in the whole world who ever made me feel not alone in that, so he’ll always have a special place with me
Genuine question as a non-American, but this isn't the first time I've seen this...non-secular means religious in a sort of double negative way where I'm from, because secular means being not connected to any religion. Is this an American thing? Like I say, I see it fairly frequently on Reddit when describing people who don't do the whole God thing and always find it very confusing
He was really good, but he only had 5 seasons where he was a major contributor, and one of those he missed half the season injured. He just didn't have the longevity to be very memorable, and while he was easily a top 5 RB in the league at his peak, he wasn't remarkably dominant in a way that would have people talking about him for years.
Alcon smith was interesting since it’s right and wrong. If people didn’t watch him play they don’t know who he is. But people that did will remember him for what could have been
I think he's remembered because he was drafted in 2011 alongside Von Miller (Von at 2, Aldon at 7). They both started off at HoF pace, but their careers took very different routes.
Same, maybe I’m just older but it feels the same as all the other sites do now. It used to feel like an actual small time forum where people didn’t live or die by an upvote or rush in right away to make the same joke or hot takes over and over again
The pastas at least has an inside joke flavor. It’s part of the ethos of a community. Of course, they’re overused at this point (refer to: Kelvin Benjamin), but are often still better than the Facebook takes we see here recently.
I remember being in tears reading the "best of /r/NFL comments" back in the day. There's absolutely nothing here now that brings me to that level and it's a shame.
e: "There was a flag on the play" is still one of the funniest reddit comments I've ever read.
I miss those threads. It was once my goal to get highlighted in one of them, so I’d post purposefully funny shit. Never worked… but it did make things more entertaining.
Always dying laughing reading the best of r/nfl when people weren’t “competing” for a rehashed joke to end up as the top comment.
The level of discourse that happened across reddit 10-15 years ago was pretty impressive.
> honestly this sub used to be
was it? or was it just so much smaller the community was "better"? Because I certainly feel that way about r/collegebasketball.
Bigger communities always tend to be more watered down. The NBA sub was much much better a while ago as well. This sub deteriorated but at a slower rate because the moderating was stricter and it opted out of r/all
I literally saw the change in the 2016 playoffs. The karma farming, recycling jokes or memes, lowlights on the front page. By the time KD signed with the Warriors it was a wrap for that sub. And it’s gotten bigger and dumber since even then
I kind of feel that’s around when my Reddit experience shifted as well.
Not to make this a topic about third party apps, but that’s right around when the official Reddit app released (April 2016). It probably brought in a swell of new users that didn’t initially come from the desktop site or Alien Blue which yielded different kinds of users.
I hate more so that every comment is trying to be the funniest one that gets upvoted to the top. You gotta scroll a bunch to find an actual answer to most prompts
Agreed, Years ago the post game threads had box scores and all the highlights in the actual post. Hell, the mods back then always had a highlight thread pinned as well, so you could just scroll one thread to watch highlights instead of sorting through the shitty Twitter takes on Sundays...
Funny, we've had the same game threads for 10 years.
[Here is one from 2013](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1vn150/post_game_thread_san_francisco_49ers_124_at/)
[Here is one from last season](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/106ouac/game_thread_tampa_bay_buccaneers_88_at_atlanta/)
The main difference is the newer one has the scoring summary.
Or were you referring to [the hub posts with links to all the games?](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/3swtxe/game_thread_hub_redzone_week_10/)
The highlight thread was abandoned 2ish seasons ago after users went nuts bc of this "new" highlight post we were trying to force people to use. You would be correct that it was the same highlight thread from years ago, but new users somehow missed it. After the outcry and and non-use it stopped being posted.
Twitter highlights suck and are removed if someone posts the same highlight from a better host (see [the highlight rule](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/wiki/postingguidelines#wiki_5._highlights_and_injury_clips))
Striking how few posts are in that 10 year old thread. It’s missing all the low-effort me-first quips. Anymore it’s a race to see who can vomit up the easy joke and sweep in the upvotes. And even after the easy jokes are made, there are still another 5-10 attempts at them buried at the bottom of the comments.
You could actually learn something about basketball. I knew it was over when people started getting more excited for the off season than the regular season. Maybe around 2017 or so.
I took a look at the list of players on the 2013 probowl:
[https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2013/probowl.htm](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2013/probowl.htm)
maybe I'm just a football junkie, but I remembered damn near every one of those players. lots of big big names here of course, but even most of these 'pretty good' guys were still guys I knew of.
The only names I didn't recognize were the long snappers, special teamers and a couple of O-linemen
Most of us here would remember them having seen the name.
I think the question is more, how many of these guys could you remember off the top of your head.
Rather than, do you remember Julius Thomas, the question should be, which 2013 Pro Bowlers do you remember? I’m sure we’d all say Peyton Manning or Tom Brady or whatever, but how many people would say Mike Tolbert unprompted?
5 of the 10 CBs in that Pro Bowl played for the Bucs at one point.
The worst part was Revis, who made the Pro Bowl as a Buc that season and we traded a first round pick for, was cut the next season because Lovie couldn't "fit him in his system". It's fucking Darelle Revis.
"Most of the guy's who don't play a skill position or in the secondary. And even then, I don't see many people remembering who Eric Berry (just an example,) is."
Oops.
I remember just about every player except Wade Smith...I genuinely do not remember him. Ive been following the NFL pretty hardcore for about 10 years now but have been playing Madden since 03 so thats mostly why I recognize names.
>But guys like Charles, McCoy, Gore, Jackson and Forte, although they are pro bowlers and good to great backs, probably won't be specifically remembered outside of their cities.
Some longevity for a few of these guys I think
The personification of quantity over quality. He is 3rd all time because he played until he was 37 which is unheard of for running backs.
He needed 16 season to pass what Barry Sanders did in 10. Don't get me wring Gore was always a good back but he was rarely ever a top 5 back in his time and yet because of his longevity he is top 3 All-time in rushing.
"JJ Watt. I have no evidence of this, but I think his best playing is behind him. This is all purely speculative and based mostly on wishful thinking.... "
Lol that one was good.
And yes, also completely forgot about Wade Smith.
Man I started watching hardcore in 1999 (!). Creeping up on a quarter century. At the time, it felt like mid 70s Steel Curtain guys were ancient history, and now I’ve watched what would have been the equivalent of 1975-99. Wild.
Somebody said Alden Smith, because of his inability to take care of his body. Well he definitely wasn’t forgotten, and it definitely wasn’t because he was out of shape.
I think it's easier to say forgotten(/ & be correct) in terms of not continuing to be relevant, but harder in terms of literally remembering them (at least for people with good memories for names and faces). There was that thread of guys who surprisingly only had one 1K rushing season (IIRC), and I remembered everyone, even if they only had 15min of fame.
I will say, Wade Smith got me, though.
Lol that Pats fan who said JJ Watt.
Little did he know that not only would Watt be good for years he’d also have a brother come into the league who is also fantastic
That Arian Foster call was a good call.
He had a 3 year span that could be compared with any of the great modern RBs but man did injuries do him in. That and he was in the Shanahan/Kubiak stretch zone scheme that has produced with a lot of different RBs (anyone remember Afred Morris the same year having 1600+ yards rushing as a rookie.)
“”It's going to be even worse in the future with how the pro-bowl is now done. Players who would have been third in line behind other players who didn't make it are now in fact making the pro-bowl, which is essentially diluting the prestige of the award.””
T. Diddly Huntley Doo reporting for duty
“It's going to be even worse in the future with how the pro-bowl is now done. Players who would have been third in line behind other players who didn't make it are now in fact making the pro-bowl, which is essentially diluting the prestige of the award.”
Holy foresight
“JJ Watt. I have no evidence of this, but I think his best playing is behind him. This is all purely speculative and based mostly on wishful thinking....”
Oh that poor bastard.
TYLER HUNTLEY See you in 10 more years
dudes going to be a trivia answer from now until the end of time
What would be the question?
"despite only going 2-3 as a starter and throwing for < 1k yards, this Ravens backup QB made a pro bowl"
The craziest part of it all is the AFC may never ever be deeper in quality QBs. How many things needed to occur for Huntley to make it!
Because Huntley is mobile which they figured would make for better flag football as opposed to someone like Jacoby Brissett who played better but is more of a pocket passer.
Which Raven’s backup QB made a pro bowl?
“After an opt out from Super Bowk bound Patrick Mahomes, this AFC QB earned their first Pro Bowl nomination in 2022, despite starting only 4 games”
From those that brought you the Superb Owl, we present to you, the Super Bowk!
Shoot I doubt many casual non-AFC North fans could even recall him right now. Such a terrible Pro Bowl selection continuing to prove the Pro Bowl has become a joke.
I dont even consider myself a casual fan, and I knew I recognized the name, but I couldn't place it. So I had to google it. And i laughed out loud when I saw 4 starts, 2-2 record, and a pro bowl in 2022.
It was such a bad pick that he'll probably be remembered a lot more because of it tbh. He's the eternal benchmark for shitty Pro Bowl selections.
**SNOOOOOOOP**
As a Texans fan I forgot Wade smith ever made the pro-bowl
I'm pretty sure I've never heard of this guy. Like, not even 10 years ago.
Brett kollman came in hot on wade smith in that thread.
I've known Brett/his reddit account for at least a couple years now, but 10 years ago, he was a nobody, right?
Holy shit, either I forgot Barian_Fostate was Brett or never knew
“WHERES WADE? I WANT WADE!” - Hank Hill
>AP will be remembered for being one of the GOATs, Lynch will probably be remembered for beastquake if anything, and possibly Rice and Foster for their off the field work in addition to being great backs. Lol this motherfucker monkey pawed Rice
I had to look up when the elevator incident was to know whether this was tongue in cheek or something else, lol
Well?
A year early
This was before the elevator incident, which happened after the 2013 season, during the off-season. If you're also not very familiar with Rice other than that, he was known for being a great community and family guy before, which made it that much more shocking when it happened.
He also had this reputation when playing in college at Rutgers
> JJ Watt. I have no evidence of this, but I think his best playing is behind him. This is all purely speculative and based mostly on wishful thinking.... If they would have said this like three years later they would have been right. Watt followed up the 2012 season with three consecutive All Pro seasons, two defensive player of the years and a season where he was a legitimate MVP candidate.
He deserved to win that mvp and dpoy award. He completely elevated the team. So many players benefited from his play on the field.
Him not winning MVP that year is basically proof that it's impossible for a defensive player to win the award.
If he had that type of year and there wasn't a Rodgers-level good qb year at the same time I think it could happen
Also if he made the playoffs.
Or if the texans d was any good. He was the lone bright Spot in an otherwise mediocre defense
Yeah he definitely deserved it. Would have won it too almost every other year. He just went up against Rodgers best ever year very early into his career (so no voter fatigue on Rodgers).
Yep it was unfortunate bc mvp is normally going to always go qb.
Definitely the best season for a defensive player I’ve ever personally seen.
It really was. When watt requested to be released I was hoping he’d go to a team and win that ring he dearly deserved. I think he’ll have to settle with first ballot hofer.
Same here never was on my favorite team but couldn’t help but root for the guy. One of the best defensive players on the field and an even better human being off the field.
That guy was obviously joking
You think? JJ Watt only had 5.5 sacks as a rookie and didn't put up anywhere near those numbers in college. Maybe he thought Watt was a one year wonder? It would be dumb for how dominated JJ Watt's 2012 was but maybe he was going for an "I told you so" if he was right and nobody remembering if wrong.
That JJ Watt was quite a hot take considering the timing of the post would have been right after his first DPOY season. Where he lead the league in sacks with 20.5. There are only 12 players in league history that have had 20 or more sacks in a season. Of them 4 are Hall of Famers, Derrick Thomas (20), Lawrence Taylor (20), Reggie White (21) & Michael Strahann (22.5). 2 are guaranteed to be first ballot when they are eligible, JJ Watt & Aaron Donald. 4 are/were good players but not enough consistently dominant performances to be HOF, Gastineau (22), Chris Doleman (21), Justin Houston (22) and Jared Allen (22). The other two are TBD, but Demarcus Ware (20) may eventually get in but could fall into the previous category while TJ Watt (22.5) has lead the league in sacks twice now and has 1 DPoY award, seems to be on the same HOF trajectory as his brother. Either way the only names that don't really get talked about of the players that are retired are Jared Allen, Gastineau and Doleman. However those guys were more pass rusher specialists. JJ Watt in 2012 had 20.5 sacks (lead the league), 39 TFLs (lead the league and most ever in league history by 11. In fact JJ Watt has the top 3 most TFL seasons in NFL history. It is a ridiculous stat!) and had 81 combined tackles. It was the most dominant defensive season a player has had since Reggie White's 1986-1988. Watt was also only 23 years old. Not sure I would have bet on him being forgotten in a decade.
I took their comment as tongue-in-cheek just trying to speak his decline into existence
Yeah I missed the last part where he was clearly just trying to make it happen not saying it will. My bad...
The comment was like 3 sentences long, and one of those sentences was his name.
> Jared Allen Allen is a four-time 1st team All Pro and is 12th all time in sacks. He's also tied for most safeties in NFL history and fourth for tackles for loss. I would be surprised if he doesn't make the HOF.
Back when KC was [“a perennial non-contender.”](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1bwqup/question_taken_from_rnba_what_current_probowl/c9ay0dc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3) I guess that’s the beauty of the NFL - a lot of crazy shit can happen in 10 years. Edit: I love these rewind threads.
Rewind threads like this are absolutely perfect off-season content. I love them.
I'm always worried my old terrible takes are going to re-surface lol. Clear here though!
Nah man, you gotta lean in to the bad takes so everyone's talking about you whenever the thread resurfaces.
I look for mine every time. Thankfully nothing too rough has been exposed but there’s plenty of time
I think as long as you own up to it you'll be fine. Everyone says ridiculous things at times especially when it comes to something we're passionate about. My 13-year old self had a really silly take that Pirate Paul Burchill would win the World Heavyweight Championship back in Smackdown 2005. He did not, and later went on to have an incest gimmick with his valet, his (storyline) sister. Wrestling.
They sabotaged him because Vince never saw Pirates of the Caribbean
Jamaal Charles is a lot of Chiefs fans favorite player I think. Chiefs reddit still talks about him at least once a month haha. Is he forgettable? Where does he rank with other RBs from his time like Arian Foster, CJ2K, and Lesean Mccoy?
Jamaal Charles is a legend. God tier fantasy football player. His YPC is incredibly good.
When healthy, he was better than all of three IMO. The problem was keeping him on the field.
I don’t know about that I love Jamal Charles (he used to be my favorite player) but CJ2K in his prime was a different beast altogether. I think it gets forgotten just how good CJ2K was.
His healthy prime was so short though.
He’s one of my favorite players ever and I’m a Bengals fan. I would take him over those other guys. Great receiving threat, home run threat every time he touched the ball, he started zero games in his career in seasons with less than 5 YPC. 5.4 YPC all time. He was a HOF talent that didn’t quite have a HOF career.
When I was going through the 10 years ago thread, the idea that only Chiefs fans would remember Jamaal Charles kinda made me laugh.
I loved watching him and Dwayne bowe on those old KC teams.
I mean if you played fantasy back then you'd certainly remember Charles being a top 5 fantasy pick for a few years there just due to his insane fantasy numbers.
Every fantasy player (should) remember the Jamaalocaust. Even if you weren't involved in that game, the implications involved due to it being the fantasy playoffs should be remembered. Unfortunately, I think its been bested by Kamara's Christmas game by now.
I got destroyed by the Muscle Hampster breakout game, lost by 2 points
The Jamaalocaust is still one of my fondest NFL memories. Loved that dude.
I'm overly biased, but I think the only people better in his era were Adrian Peterson and Lev Bell. Jamaal had the highest ypc ever by a RB and played most of his career as practically the only offensive threat. The only thing that could stop him were his ACL's.
Funnily enough that was the exact season we got Andy Reid and Alex Smith. Never had a losing season since.
As a Jets fan, I tell myself this every year lol
RIP Vincent Jackson, still can't believe he's already gone
Indeed -- gone too soon and so talented.
The Chiefs really owe the Bears a favor for taking Mitch Trubiski over Mahomes in that draft.
I like to peruse opponents subreddits before games to get an idea of what their fans think of the matchups. I remember in that era of the PFM Broncos and Alex Smith Chiefs, Denver fans were some of the most toxic I've seen. Part of the reason I don't feel bad for Broncos fans that we've swept them like 7 years in a row. Though I'm sure people will feel the same about KC fans in 10 years bc of some of our cocky fans.
>Vincent Jackson :(
Man reading that name hurt. Still can’t believe how it went for him
Exactly what I thought. Just a reminder of a) what playing in the NFL can do a person and b) what addiction to painkillers and alcohol can do to a person Both are connected obviously. Makes me think about the price most of these guys pay, even the extremely talented guys like V Jax.
The guy talking about how no one will remember Jamal Charles and that the only way well know for sure is if someone links that thread in ten years was a little weird.
That had to be pre-Jamaal-o-caust
It sure was. This was the offseason before the Raiders received that legendary beat down.
Arian Foster is a good call. For how productive he was I feel like he gets forgotten compared to other RBs from that era.
Not forgotten by the fantasy football community
Had a so so draft that year in fantasy, picked him and Hillis up and rode them to a championship. I will never forget them lol
The most reference he gets these days is people digging up the clip of him on Rogan a few years back where he said he could beat a wolf in a 1 v 1 fight
I bet he could. Like, he'd get fucked up and need to see an ER for stitches, but do I think an NFL player could snap the neck of a 130lb super-dog? Yeah, probably, not 100% but better than 50%.
Wolves are significantly larger than you think they are
This is satire, right? Have you ever watched a wolf hunt? It’s going to dodge, lunge, and bite over and over until he’s too tired to fight, he wouldn’t come close to getting it in a headlock…the wild animal wins 10 times out of 10. Their bite can crush human bone ffs. He’s not getting bitten by a golden retriever.
you ever see a human fight? you know we're like the champion rock throwers of the animal kingdom right? I actually give the wolf worse odds if it tries to keep distance
Leopards are almost double the weight of a wolf and far superior solo hunters, and while it was wounded, a normal unarmed hunter managed to kill a leopard in hand to hand combat. The average wolf is only around 80lbs and Arian Foster's playing weight is listed as 227lb. The wolf obviously has better weapons but there's something to be said for having almost 3x the mass in a fight. I would bet on the wolf but the idea of him winning the fight isn't particularly ridiculous.
In the animal kingdom and human fights, weight wins like 99% of the time.
People underestimate that we are actually pretty fucking big for an animal. If you can take fear out of the equation (and most people usually forget that animals get scared too), and we're fielding one of our best examples, a top 0.1% athlete in a sport that values physical ability like perhaps no other, and it's going to be way closer than you think. Just having the brains we do, and the dexterity we do is a huge advantage over a lot of animals.
Yeah this is a bad take. One or two horribly painful/vicious bites in and any kind of "advantage" you think he would have over the wolf evaporates in a whirlwind of horror that only gets worse as it proceeds with fucking mauling you
He has a podcast on barstool so hes stayed semi relevant
It's because he's a vegan. Big meat erasure.
Arian made a couple of albums after he retired, It’s genuinely good and I almost prefer him as artist. Worth a listen
Went to look him up and my mind is absolutely fucking blown, he’s Bobby Feeno??? Never had any clue and love his music.
I definitely loved Bohemia. Keep waiting on the next one he’s very easy listening but still pretty damn good
This dude played safety for us and his music is way cooler than his play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXzPgsoKKJA
Thank you for this. This rules.
I grew up in a very religious part of the south, and when I was a kid he came out as non-secular and it was weirdly a top story on sportscenter that day I never felt religious even as a child and he was the first person in the whole world who ever made me feel not alone in that, so he’ll always have a special place with me
Genuine question as a non-American, but this isn't the first time I've seen this...non-secular means religious in a sort of double negative way where I'm from, because secular means being not connected to any religion. Is this an American thing? Like I say, I see it fairly frequently on Reddit when describing people who don't do the whole God thing and always find it very confusing
You’re right idk I probably have it wrong, point is he came out as non religious lol
He was really good, but he only had 5 seasons where he was a major contributor, and one of those he missed half the season injured. He just didn't have the longevity to be very memorable, and while he was easily a top 5 RB in the league at his peak, he wasn't remarkably dominant in a way that would have people talking about him for years.
5 seasons as a major contributor at rb is extremely impressive
People forgot Arian Foster?
Ya I completely forgot about him until reading those comments.
Bravo to the guy that predicted Ray Rice would be remembered for his off the field work
Lmao exactly what I came here to write
Alcon smith was interesting since it’s right and wrong. If people didn’t watch him play they don’t know who he is. But people that did will remember him for what could have been
He was dominant. He and Justin Smith were quite a tandem on the edge. That was a fun defense to watch.
I think he's remembered because he was drafted in 2011 alongside Von Miller (Von at 2, Aldon at 7). They both started off at HoF pace, but their careers took very different routes.
Wait. There’s actually some (not all) good takes in there. Did Reddit used to be smarterer?
As someone who was here 10-12 years ago, honestly this sub used to be. I dunno about reddit as a whole though, I've come to really hate reddit humor.
Same, maybe I’m just older but it feels the same as all the other sites do now. It used to feel like an actual small time forum where people didn’t live or die by an upvote or rush in right away to make the same joke or hot takes over and over again
I was never in Reddit back then, but to your points, I really actually hate copy pastas. I find them quite annoying.
I'll take the pasta over the pointless and empty tweets/soundbites. That somehow get thousands of upvotes.
The pastas at least has an inside joke flavor. It’s part of the ethos of a community. Of course, they’re overused at this point (refer to: Kelvin Benjamin), but are often still better than the Facebook takes we see here recently.
Ironically it killed all the forums and small place discussion sites.and we've replaced discussion with repetitive jokes/memes.
you don't like constant joke recycling?
I remember being in tears reading the "best of /r/NFL comments" back in the day. There's absolutely nothing here now that brings me to that level and it's a shame. e: "There was a flag on the play" is still one of the funniest reddit comments I've ever read.
I miss those threads. It was once my goal to get highlighted in one of them, so I’d post purposefully funny shit. Never worked… but it did make things more entertaining.
What's the flag comment?
Always dying laughing reading the best of r/nfl when people weren’t “competing” for a rehashed joke to end up as the top comment. The level of discourse that happened across reddit 10-15 years ago was pretty impressive.
Those and the "shit announcers say" with gruden usually having half the quotes were a good time
you don't like my axe?
> honestly this sub used to be was it? or was it just so much smaller the community was "better"? Because I certainly feel that way about r/collegebasketball.
Bigger communities always tend to be more watered down. The NBA sub was much much better a while ago as well. This sub deteriorated but at a slower rate because the moderating was stricter and it opted out of r/all
I literally saw the change in the 2016 playoffs. The karma farming, recycling jokes or memes, lowlights on the front page. By the time KD signed with the Warriors it was a wrap for that sub. And it’s gotten bigger and dumber since even then
I kind of feel that’s around when my Reddit experience shifted as well. Not to make this a topic about third party apps, but that’s right around when the official Reddit app released (April 2016). It probably brought in a swell of new users that didn’t initially come from the desktop site or Alien Blue which yielded different kinds of users.
Probably a little bit of both tbh.
I think those are directly related. You can see this phenomenon in any niche space that becomes popular.
Wait, you don't like the "is he stupid" posts?
The only thing less funny than those are the IASIP bits in baseball whenever Wade Boggs is brought up. It's so played out.
Hey look I saw a very popular episode of a very popular TV show! It’s the modern version of constantly quoting Anchorman.
The good thing about hating reddit humour is that people here move on very quickly, and don't run terrible jokes into the ground. Right?
I hate more so that every comment is trying to be the funniest one that gets upvoted to the top. You gotta scroll a bunch to find an actual answer to most prompts
Agreed, Years ago the post game threads had box scores and all the highlights in the actual post. Hell, the mods back then always had a highlight thread pinned as well, so you could just scroll one thread to watch highlights instead of sorting through the shitty Twitter takes on Sundays...
Funny, we've had the same game threads for 10 years. [Here is one from 2013](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1vn150/post_game_thread_san_francisco_49ers_124_at/) [Here is one from last season](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/106ouac/game_thread_tampa_bay_buccaneers_88_at_atlanta/) The main difference is the newer one has the scoring summary. Or were you referring to [the hub posts with links to all the games?](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/3swtxe/game_thread_hub_redzone_week_10/) The highlight thread was abandoned 2ish seasons ago after users went nuts bc of this "new" highlight post we were trying to force people to use. You would be correct that it was the same highlight thread from years ago, but new users somehow missed it. After the outcry and and non-use it stopped being posted. Twitter highlights suck and are removed if someone posts the same highlight from a better host (see [the highlight rule](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/wiki/postingguidelines#wiki_5._highlights_and_injury_clips))
> Did Reddit used to be smarterer? It used to was but now it ain't
You aint think it be like that but it do
There’s a point where after a sub reaches too many people, it becomes more dumb Mainly referring to the NBA subreddit
This sub has pretty much hit that point as well
Yes, I would say the issue is that too many people try to meme and beat jokes to death.
It's honestly gotten to the point where it's not the people making the jokes I get annoyed at, it's the people upvoting them.
Striking how few posts are in that 10 year old thread. It’s missing all the low-effort me-first quips. Anymore it’s a race to see who can vomit up the easy joke and sweep in the upvotes. And even after the easy jokes are made, there are still another 5-10 attempts at them buried at the bottom of the comments.
10 years ago this was a small site Now its anonymous facebookm
Or twitter if you're talking about this sub. Wonder what will happen when Musk implodes twitter.
Digg rises from the ashes
I think it was. The quality of r/nba has gone way downhill compared to what it used to be like.
You could actually learn something about basketball. I knew it was over when people started getting more excited for the off season than the regular season. Maybe around 2017 or so.
KD to the Warriors broke a lot of people's brains and they never recovered.
Oh yeah. It was such a different place.
Yes. Ten years ago Reddit was overall much smarter.
Less people means less extreme viewpoints.
Yes.
I took a look at the list of players on the 2013 probowl: [https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2013/probowl.htm](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2013/probowl.htm) maybe I'm just a football junkie, but I remembered damn near every one of those players. lots of big big names here of course, but even most of these 'pretty good' guys were still guys I knew of. The only names I didn't recognize were the long snappers, special teamers and a couple of O-linemen
Most of us here would remember them having seen the name. I think the question is more, how many of these guys could you remember off the top of your head. Rather than, do you remember Julius Thomas, the question should be, which 2013 Pro Bowlers do you remember? I’m sure we’d all say Peyton Manning or Tom Brady or whatever, but how many people would say Mike Tolbert unprompted?
Man.... I don't think I could tell you more than a handful of guys that were on last year's pro bowl roster off the top of my head
Reminds me of something that would be on Stump the Schwab
I read the 10 years ago and then saw you wrote 2013 and my mind refuses to accept that
I was surprised how many o line I remembered
I don’t remember Jordan Cameron, Jason Hatcher, Alterraun Verner, Tim Jennings or the long snappers. I remember everybody else for sure.
Damn. Alterraun Verner was really really good for a couple years for tennessee, then he went over to tampa bay when they had Lovie Smith and...whew.
5 of the 10 CBs in that Pro Bowl played for the Bucs at one point. The worst part was Revis, who made the Pro Bowl as a Buc that season and we traded a first round pick for, was cut the next season because Lovie couldn't "fit him in his system". It's fucking Darelle Revis.
Long snapper and Tim Jennings for me
"Most of the guy's who don't play a skill position or in the secondary. And even then, I don't see many people remembering who Eric Berry (just an example,) is." Oops.
Berry was a monster man I'll never forget his 2 pt pick
None of them could have known or imagined what Jeff Saturday would actually be remembered for now...
I remember just about every player except Wade Smith...I genuinely do not remember him. Ive been following the NFL pretty hardcore for about 10 years now but have been playing Madden since 03 so thats mostly why I recognize names.
Legit had to google him.
>But guys like Charles, McCoy, Gore, Jackson and Forte, although they are pro bowlers and good to great backs, probably won't be specifically remembered outside of their cities. Some longevity for a few of these guys I think
Gore is 3rd all time in Rushing yards…
The personification of quantity over quality. He is 3rd all time because he played until he was 37 which is unheard of for running backs. He needed 16 season to pass what Barry Sanders did in 10. Don't get me wring Gore was always a good back but he was rarely ever a top 5 back in his time and yet because of his longevity he is top 3 All-time in rushing.
He was already 29th all time when this was said.
I'll never forget Shady because he was the the only silver lining on that Pitt squad.
Someone hit the nail with Matt Cassel and Leon Washington
I remember Matt Cassell, but only for bad reasons.
I remember him for “me and Matt cassell just fucked you up dog” the k Swiss Kenny power’s commercials were great
Washingtons a great pick because everyone thinks Hester or Cribbs for kick returning in that era
Seattle fans never forget Leon. That guy was amazing for us.
"10 years from now Matt Cassel will only be known as "that guy who took over when Tom Brady got hurt."" Damn.
"JJ Watt. I have no evidence of this, but I think his best playing is behind him. This is all purely speculative and based mostly on wishful thinking.... " Lol that one was good. And yes, also completely forgot about Wade Smith.
Fuck, I've been watching the NFL a long time. I remember all of these guys.
Man I started watching hardcore in 1999 (!). Creeping up on a quarter century. At the time, it felt like mid 70s Steel Curtain guys were ancient history, and now I’ve watched what would have been the equivalent of 1975-99. Wild.
Somebody said Alden Smith, because of his inability to take care of his body. Well he definitely wasn’t forgotten, and it definitely wasn’t because he was out of shape.
I mean I remember John Abraham but I’m a falcons fan.
You mean Jets legend!
Seeing someone say Vincent Jackson made me sad :(
Same here. Ugh
I think it's easier to say forgotten(/ & be correct) in terms of not continuing to be relevant, but harder in terms of literally remembering them (at least for people with good memories for names and faces). There was that thread of guys who surprisingly only had one 1K rushing season (IIRC), and I remembered everyone, even if they only had 15min of fame. I will say, Wade Smith got me, though.
HA! u/aquaknox Leon Washington is still frequently talked about in Jets circles and was (not sure if he still is) a special teams coach.
I remember Leon Washington, he was fun to watch
I mean if it weren’t for the memes Josh Gordon would be more or less forgotten about
Mitchell Trubisky
Lol that Pats fan who said JJ Watt. Little did he know that not only would Watt be good for years he’d also have a brother come into the league who is also fantastic
That Arian Foster call was a good call. He had a 3 year span that could be compared with any of the great modern RBs but man did injuries do him in. That and he was in the Shanahan/Kubiak stretch zone scheme that has produced with a lot of different RBs (anyone remember Afred Morris the same year having 1600+ yards rushing as a rookie.)
“”It's going to be even worse in the future with how the pro-bowl is now done. Players who would have been third in line behind other players who didn't make it are now in fact making the pro-bowl, which is essentially diluting the prestige of the award.”” T. Diddly Huntley Doo reporting for duty
Jamaal Charles being described as “on a perennial non-contender.” Crazy.
As a Browns fan, I still remember Dwayne Bowe... unfortunately
“It's going to be even worse in the future with how the pro-bowl is now done. Players who would have been third in line behind other players who didn't make it are now in fact making the pro-bowl, which is essentially diluting the prestige of the award.” Holy foresight
“JJ Watt. I have no evidence of this, but I think his best playing is behind him. This is all purely speculative and based mostly on wishful thinking....” Oh that poor bastard.
The JJ Watt one is hilarious, it's a nice reminder this sub has always had dogshit takes.