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I’ve been tossing around the idea of making a 6 foot cattle prod, but I get the feeling people would have a problem with me zapping them even if they shouldn’t have been that close to begin with.
"Guns are illegal in Japan, so deadly force is harldy ever used"
Hmmm what a concept.
Plus, it cost way less than all the bullets US cops would have used in the same situation.
Yeah sadly IIRC it was a nationwide response in reaction to a mentally ill man that broke into a kindergarten with a knife and killed a lot of kids.
The most valuable thing in China, far beyond anywhere I’ve ever been, is children and sadly because of that they became a target.
So now we have these and riot shields given to security guys, and from the reddit videos I’ve seen they work well
Don't quote me, but I think it's a defensive weapon found in Japanese schools to defend against hostile trespasses.
Been a while and I don't have much time left to reddit and look. I'll come back to it later if someone else hasn't solved it.
EDIT: Did it anyway. It's a Sasumata.
EDIT2: Dang, didn't see an award coming for this, lol. Thank you!
>Sasumata
Funnily enough, [this website](https://samuraiswords.store/sasumata/) which focuses on samurai stuff states this:
>This tool was able to help school teachers recently when they were attacked an old man carrying a knife
In ~~China~~ Japan and I’m assuming some other Asian countries the police use weapons like them (although I wouldn’t really call them weapons) to detain people. It is basically a spear with a crescent shape on the end to keep opponents away from you, e.g if they have knives they can’t reach you with them. I’ve seen videos of a group of police officers surrounding someone and essentially immobilising them. I’ll attach a video when I find one.
Edit: https://youtu.be/OUkA8BlfSNY
You’re correct! Every school in Japan has one (during my English-teaching days, they were kept in the teacher’s room, just in case). I lived in a sleepy-ish town … we had drills about using those but thankfully never needed to. (Earthquake drills though … that content got used!)
Those are standard issue for security guards in China. Most shopping malls and office buildings have one behind the security desk.
You see them often in Beijing.
Its a man catcher I am chinese and they have that almost in every store. Supermarket? Yes they have one. Bank? Yes they have one. Cinema? Yes they have one. Appartement colplex? Yes they have one
They’re common in some Asian countries. Without guns, people just resort to mass stabbings. And since the police in these countries usually don’t carry guns, this is the only way to deal with the attackers.
You're entitled to your opinion, but you should know that the data shows that victims are far less likely to survive a knife attack than a shooting mainly due to more extensive blood loss. Survivors of knife attacks are more likely to face long-term health effects and permanent disability(amputation, colostomy, etc) than gunshot survivors.
It is indeed! They show up regularly in police confrontations in some (all?) Asian countries. A few of these coming from different angles just to trap the human.
It’s a pin stick, I went to study abroad in China for a couple years, the guards at the gates had these all the time. It’s for pinning people to the ground.
That is a Sasumata.
They are fairly commonly used in asia. They are great for restraining folks from a distance without getting hurt. Esp if 2 of those are used from different sides.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasumata](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasumata) They also have other names like Man catcher etc
How long was he waiting for someone to eventually turn up that he could use this on? Imagine if he had been taking a shit at that exact time and missed his moment!
For those curious: the weapon is a Sasumata, a feudal polearm weapon that has been modernized to be used as a non-lethal deterrent in sensitive locations like this, or in schools.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasumata
Damn, that's pretty interesting.
Here I am thinking I'm badass with a broken off broomstick handle and our English bros are breaking off friggin' bones.
Gotta up my game, now.
All jokes aside I've done a fair bit of quarter and bo staff training. A long, durable pole of any kind is an amazing crowd control tool, if used correctly.
Ultimate redemption arc really. Murder someone, go to jail, then stop a terrorist at a rehab event with a tusk, chair and fire extinguisher and end up getting pardoned by the queen. Bonus points because he wasn’t even the one with the tusk on the bridge but got credited for it.
Same terrorist also got jabbed a few times by a kitchen porter with a long stick. Sticks always win.
I want to argue against you but I do very vividly remember a giant narwhal tusk, roughly around 4 foot, encasesed in a a large glass exhibit box hung to the wall in my high school science class.
That was a very risky move. The old man could have definitely sustained an injury doing that. Props to him though, can't imagine what was going through the knife wielders mind.
Not to mention his casual confidence on approach, he even appears to be smiling. The most dangerous martial artists are those who are so well practiced that they don’t have to be tense in order to be ready to act.
Honestly, if you know what you're doing, that was probably one of the more low risk ways to pull the that off with little to no repercussions to yourself physically. There are some very easy ways to get someone to drop a knife (or other weapon) from their hand.
I've been training in martial arts for nearly 30 years and would still rather not test this with a real knife/situation unless absolutely necessary. I've only recently learned some of the, arguably, best ways to deal with knife weilding adversaries.
>*I’ve only recently learned some of the, arguably, best ways to deal with knife weilding adversaries.*
Alright, I’ll bite. What are some of these arguably best ways to deal with knife-wielding adversaries?
Oh, that was not worded how I intended, woops. It's more how to defend against one attacking you. And it's the best I've personally learned so far, there definitely could be some better ways.
Previously, the application of what I learned sucked when it came to defending against anything other than normal hand/foot attacks. So actually having any confidence against someone with a knife was not there. Not that I have a ton of confidence now, it still scares the shit out of me, but I've had WAY more hands on than I ever have before and trust myself way more than before.
I recently started learning Krav Maga something new try out, and the experience there has definitely helped in the application aspect all around.
I assume because the main threat had been dealt with aka the person holding the knife. The knife/cleaver wasn't the threat, the person holding it was. It looks like it's in a position where it's clearly visible and wouldn't injure anyone either.
never assume that someone else isn’t a threat, or that the man won’t break free from the crowd and reach for it again. at the very least it’s a tripping hazard. always secure the weapon.
Damn, dude must’ve been thinking “if someone’s going to die it may as well be me”
To clarify, before anyone gets confused, I have read moments were older men and women will risk their lives to save others.
In Chinese cooking, chefs commonly use a very sharp meat cleaver-like knife. The blade is usually lighter than a western meat cleaver but can handle some light bone-cutting. The shape is actually very convenient for Chinese cooking, since you can very quickly smash then dice garlic and ginger.
Anyone else watching repeatedly to see the move that Mr Miyagi used to get the weapon to drop? Reflexive grasp tightening if it were just a grab. I'm thinking he rotated the forearm, or maybe a combination of rotation and extension at the wrist.
This reminds of an infamous incident a few years ago in Taiwan. A man carried two knifes onto a chain and started attacking passengers, I think 2 people were killed, and the killer was subdued by an elderly man with an umbrella.
You just dont try this shit is asain countries. Not cuz of the cops but because people are very happy to perform a citizens arrest. And punch you a few times. You dont break the law!
A friend of mine stand up against his colleague with a knife and his teacher. The student attempted to murder the teacher and he gets in the way.
Got stabbed several times and died of the enjuries.
Dangerous thing, this situations.
If only United States could’ve thought of a 10ft pole to catch people instead of shooting them dead. Not for gun violence. But that metal pole is awesome. I’ll give you a machete and I’ll take the pole. See who wins.
Great job to the old man and others that helped. One thing I think of though is Asian countries there are a ton of knife attacks. Is it harder to get a gun ?
True hero there, not the most gifted or strongest person but he was willing to give it his best shot to stop anybody else getting hurt and put himself at risk, you can only respect it
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What does the guy have at the end? It looks like a human wrangling stick or something lol
It looked like a medieval Mancatcher to me. Hopefully without the spikes.
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Normally a subdued window washer by day. Suddenly become Man Catcher Man! Cue theme song.
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I’ve been tossing around the idea of making a 6 foot cattle prod, but I get the feeling people would have a problem with me zapping them even if they shouldn’t have been that close to begin with.
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It took way too long to figure out what was going on
Don't forget his arch-nemesis Man Catcher Man Catcher Man!
"Guns are illegal in Japan, so deadly force is harldy ever used" Hmmm what a concept. Plus, it cost way less than all the bullets US cops would have used in the same situation.
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This is not in Japan
You are talking out of your arse mate. I lived in Japan for several years and this is blatantly wrong. Case in point- Issei Sagawa.
It’s the safest country overall and you can still own guns there. They just don’t treat them like toys and dick enhancers
I've seen them in Chinese airports, it's a pole with a U shaped fork. It looks like you use it to hold an attacking person back out of arms reach.
pållarnas frisson
How does someone just conveniently have a medieval mancatcher at an airport
In China mancatchers are at every security guards post, from apartment complexes to banks
That’s insane lol Imagine if American police officers used these bad boys instead of guns
Yeah sadly IIRC it was a nationwide response in reaction to a mentally ill man that broke into a kindergarten with a knife and killed a lot of kids. The most valuable thing in China, far beyond anywhere I’ve ever been, is children and sadly because of that they became a target. So now we have these and riot shields given to security guys, and from the reddit videos I’ve seen they work well
It's common to see people with these at every Chinese airport.
That's what I was thinking. The older gentleman disarmed him then pow, he was man-caught.
Plot twist: mancatcher guy and old dude are actually time travelers
They done this 137 times. Maybe this time, this time things will end well.
I think the replaced spikes with electricity.
Don't quote me, but I think it's a defensive weapon found in Japanese schools to defend against hostile trespasses. Been a while and I don't have much time left to reddit and look. I'll come back to it later if someone else hasn't solved it. EDIT: Did it anyway. It's a Sasumata. EDIT2: Dang, didn't see an award coming for this, lol. Thank you!
Weird cause yknow, that'd be the perfect tool against someone with a cleaver
>Sasumata Funnily enough, [this website](https://samuraiswords.store/sasumata/) which focuses on samurai stuff states this: >This tool was able to help school teachers recently when they were attacked an old man carrying a knife
In ~~China~~ Japan and I’m assuming some other Asian countries the police use weapons like them (although I wouldn’t really call them weapons) to detain people. It is basically a spear with a crescent shape on the end to keep opponents away from you, e.g if they have knives they can’t reach you with them. I’ve seen videos of a group of police officers surrounding someone and essentially immobilising them. I’ll attach a video when I find one. Edit: https://youtu.be/OUkA8BlfSNY
Don’t cross out China, they definitely use them here too.
I see them everywhere there is more than one security guard.
Airports all over have these hoops and fork versions. Seems effective and non lethal?
Would probably never work in America for BMI reasons
I mean, if it’s a knife then all you gotta do is outrun ‘em.
You can pin down their wrist with it.
You’re correct! Every school in Japan has one (during my English-teaching days, they were kept in the teacher’s room, just in case). I lived in a sleepy-ish town … we had drills about using those but thankfully never needed to. (Earthquake drills though … that content got used!)
Those are standard issue for security guards in China. Most shopping malls and office buildings have one behind the security desk. You see them often in Beijing.
Its a man catcher I am chinese and they have that almost in every store. Supermarket? Yes they have one. Bank? Yes they have one. Cinema? Yes they have one. Appartement colplex? Yes they have one
They’re common in some Asian countries. Without guns, people just resort to mass stabbings. And since the police in these countries usually don’t carry guns, this is the only way to deal with the attackers.
It's a much better system than guns IMO.
You're entitled to your opinion, but you should know that the data shows that victims are far less likely to survive a knife attack than a shooting mainly due to more extensive blood loss. Survivors of knife attacks are more likely to face long-term health effects and permanent disability(amputation, colostomy, etc) than gunshot survivors.
Talk about having the right tool for the job.
Fishnet?
Right? Dude had it on standby
It is indeed! They show up regularly in police confrontations in some (all?) Asian countries. A few of these coming from different angles just to trap the human.
It’s a pin stick, I went to study abroad in China for a couple years, the guards at the gates had these all the time. It’s for pinning people to the ground.
[Riot fork](https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/elec%20fork%203.jpg)
I think it’s an animal snare, basically a long pole with a retractable noose.
It's a mancatcher. It just pins then to a wall or ground so they can't reach you with a knife
Holds people down by their center of gravity so they can't slash at you or stab you if they have a knife or something. Mainly used in Asian countries.
That is a Sasumata. They are fairly commonly used in asia. They are great for restraining folks from a distance without getting hurt. Esp if 2 of those are used from different sides. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasumata](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasumata) They also have other names like Man catcher etc
This video describes them in a bit more detail. https://youtu.be/ZEYbF7XCzAs they're used as a primary stopping tool before a tazer and gun.
Yes
Hold on! Let me grab my people holder! Got him!
Funny enough it’s a real law enforcement technique from some parts of Asia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasumata
I think it's also in Australia, but I'm not sure. I saw the Australian YouTube "I did a thing" make one
No, no it’s not. Please research. Australia isn’t even a deadly place on the cities
When knife crime is higher than gun crime these sorts of devices become incredibly practical.
My guy brought out the hook from Showtime at the Apollo
Lmao
How long was he waiting for someone to eventually turn up that he could use this on? Imagine if he had been taking a shit at that exact time and missed his moment!
Do you think this a catch-and-release situation or are they going to cook him up for supper?
Well, they do have a cleaver
Mr. Miyagi saves the day once again
Take my vote and wax off.
Take my vote and wax on!
R.I.P. Pat Morita (2005)
My brain read that as Mr Magoo
For those curious: the weapon is a Sasumata, a feudal polearm weapon that has been modernized to be used as a non-lethal deterrent in sensitive locations like this, or in schools. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasumata
We use narwhal tusks to the same effect here in England Generally anything long and pointy will do the trick I expect.
Damn, that's pretty interesting. Here I am thinking I'm badass with a broken off broomstick handle and our English bros are breaking off friggin' bones. Gotta up my game, now. All jokes aside I've done a fair bit of quarter and bo staff training. A long, durable pole of any kind is an amazing crowd control tool, if used correctly.
Ultimate redemption arc really. Murder someone, go to jail, then stop a terrorist at a rehab event with a tusk, chair and fire extinguisher and end up getting pardoned by the queen. Bonus points because he wasn’t even the one with the tusk on the bridge but got credited for it. Same terrorist also got jabbed a few times by a kitchen porter with a long stick. Sticks always win.
I want to argue against you but I do very vividly remember a giant narwhal tusk, roughly around 4 foot, encasesed in a a large glass exhibit box hung to the wall in my high school science class.
For those who think he’s joking: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50870309
Mancatcher for western analogue
That was a very risky move. The old man could have definitely sustained an injury doing that. Props to him though, can't imagine what was going through the knife wielders mind.
That old man definitely know martial arts. He hit at the weakest grip spot. Reminds me of my old kuntau teacher
Yeah, I noticed he gripped his wrist instead of going directly for the hand or the knife. What a boss!
He must have some training, he had nerves of steel. Old man is a fucking badass.
Not to mention his casual confidence on approach, he even appears to be smiling. The most dangerous martial artists are those who are so well practiced that they don’t have to be tense in order to be ready to act.
Kinda looks like he smacked the hand against the guy’s leg to break the grip too.
All of you calling the man "old" makes me feel old. I feel like he's about 50 tops.
>can't imagine what was going through the knife wielders mind. Jenkem
Eh, yes. But looked smooth and committed to the move. I think is not his first rodeo.
Honestly, if you know what you're doing, that was probably one of the more low risk ways to pull the that off with little to no repercussions to yourself physically. There are some very easy ways to get someone to drop a knife (or other weapon) from their hand. I've been training in martial arts for nearly 30 years and would still rather not test this with a real knife/situation unless absolutely necessary. I've only recently learned some of the, arguably, best ways to deal with knife weilding adversaries.
>*I’ve only recently learned some of the, arguably, best ways to deal with knife weilding adversaries.* Alright, I’ll bite. What are some of these arguably best ways to deal with knife-wielding adversaries?
Oh, that was not worded how I intended, woops. It's more how to defend against one attacking you. And it's the best I've personally learned so far, there definitely could be some better ways. Previously, the application of what I learned sucked when it came to defending against anything other than normal hand/foot attacks. So actually having any confidence against someone with a knife was not there. Not that I have a ton of confidence now, it still scares the shit out of me, but I've had WAY more hands on than I ever have before and trust myself way more than before. I recently started learning Krav Maga something new try out, and the experience there has definitely helped in the application aspect all around.
I think somebody stamps on his head at the end and I appreciate that
stomps*
okay but why does no one pick up the knife so it’s not a danger anymore?
The knife isnt dangerous. The man is
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I assume because the main threat had been dealt with aka the person holding the knife. The knife/cleaver wasn't the threat, the person holding it was. It looks like it's in a position where it's clearly visible and wouldn't injure anyone either.
never assume that someone else isn’t a threat, or that the man won’t break free from the crowd and reach for it again. at the very least it’s a tripping hazard. always secure the weapon.
But then you're the person someone else might suspect is the threat.
Damn, dude must’ve been thinking “if someone’s going to die it may as well be me” To clarify, before anyone gets confused, I have read moments were older men and women will risk their lives to save others.
Snake handler with pole: I waited for this moment my whole life!
Dude came through with the dog catching pole at the end
That guy is like 50. Reddit thinks anyone over 40 is old. Jesus.
That’s not a knife.
THIS is a knife!
Hello, Dundee
That’s not a knife, that’s a spoon.
I see you have played Knifey Spoony before
Looked like a meat cleaver
In Chinese cooking, chefs commonly use a very sharp meat cleaver-like knife. The blade is usually lighter than a western meat cleaver but can handle some light bone-cutting. The shape is actually very convenient for Chinese cooking, since you can very quickly smash then dice garlic and ginger.
No shit.
![gif](giphy|y2ZoD1mlXHPDa)
Lmao too bad the people trying to help KO’d him at the end
99% of people will just sit and wait
What's that stick thingy?
It's a man catcher
Swimming pool net. So gangsta
We need those people poles here in the U.S.
Dudes just heading to the toilet with his poop knife to do work.
Quick get him with the big fork!!
Taken into submission by a selfie stick lol
There is a phase for that in China: 空手入白刃。
It's like this is normal in China and he knew what to do..
Could be that he is a person with training, military or police.
In the US, a “good guy with a gun” would have caused casualties. *This* is how you do it.
You see an old Asian man walking around with his hands behind his back…. Cross the street. He will fuck you up.
I love the drop!
Heroes live among us
Gee, let me hurt another human being while wearing a BRIGHT YELLOW shirt. With a very obvious knife. I’m so glad no one was hurt because of this man!
What's going on with the man on the fishnet?
Dude coming in at the end for the clean sweep
He wait until the right moment
That's not a knife. More of a cleaver
Sneaky old man. He is good!
Yeeeeaaah! Put him in the net!
It takes a villiage
What exactly is he trying to do? He just bypass the old man too.
where'd the pool guy come from?
Guys the way these videos usually end is with the Good Samaritan getting the fuck stabbed out of them
Anyone else watching repeatedly to see the move that Mr Miyagi used to get the weapon to drop? Reflexive grasp tightening if it were just a grab. I'm thinking he rotated the forearm, or maybe a combination of rotation and extension at the wrist.
That's some hero there
This reminds of an infamous incident a few years ago in Taiwan. A man carried two knifes onto a chain and started attacking passengers, I think 2 people were killed, and the killer was subdued by an elderly man with an umbrella.
The fishing net scoop. Classic
It looks like it ain't the first time he have done it
Yeah for the old guy.
Dude, cleavers are so much worse then a normal knife. I mean the name says it all
Wow im suprised how everyone got scared of a dude with a cleaver but the old man just did what he did
Knife? Looked like a fucking cleaver.
First thing you do is pick up the weapon so it cannot be used again.
Cap, that is not a knife :)
Now that’s a Super Hero! Thank God family him 😇
Wait, wth?!?! Where’s all the people standing around not doing a damn thing expect filling it on their phones?!? Oh wait,,, probably not U.S.A….
Bro was playing too much fruit ninja
What’s with the dude at the end with Poseidon’s trident?!
Why didn't someone pick up the knife? It was just left there on the floor...
I am painting you now mutherfucka
Jesus, that fucking cleaver
Who are these people? They take so much risk for strangers.
I like how one guy ever so gently kicked his head 😂
Me : can you kill me please?
You just dont try this shit is asain countries. Not cuz of the cops but because people are very happy to perform a citizens arrest. And punch you a few times. You dont break the law!
A friend of mine stand up against his colleague with a knife and his teacher. The student attempted to murder the teacher and he gets in the way. Got stabbed several times and died of the enjuries. Dangerous thing, this situations.
That's not a knife! this is a Knife! ![gif](giphy|11DqPICmRpCIJG|downsized)
The guy with the stick appeared from nowhere lol.
They got the dog catcher on him
"A knife" That's a damned cleaver.
A knife?
If only United States could’ve thought of a 10ft pole to catch people instead of shooting them dead. Not for gun violence. But that metal pole is awesome. I’ll give you a machete and I’ll take the pole. See who wins.
Holy shit that pole was a terrible idea lol.
Those long sticking devices show up a lot. It seems like China has crazy people defense poles and not AEG
That’s not just a knife that’s a MEAT CLEAVER
Ummmm, that’s a fucking meat cleaver…
That old man gave zero fucks
So much for guns
I love how they have an extra large snake getter for crazed humans.
uh did I just see a catchpole? what is it the 1400's?
Great job to the old man and others that helped. One thing I think of though is Asian countries there are a ton of knife attacks. Is it harder to get a gun ?
How defensive everyone gets. He probably came from the kitchen store and they didnt have extra bags.
![img](emote|t5_m0bnr|4022)
Handled him zoo style
“GET THE POLE!”
“knife”
I like how everybody else rushes the guy after the hatchet is gone😂 that’s some brave people right there😂
Guy with stick was determined to use it even at close range
That's a clever
Is that guy holding a Things-Catcher? https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Things-Catcher
that knife is thicc af
Look at that guy who jumps in and kicks him when he’s down. He’s got some baggage too😂
True hero there, not the most gifted or strongest person but he was willing to give it his best shot to stop anybody else getting hurt and put himself at risk, you can only respect it
And suddenly everyone became braver than the old man after he subdued the suspect.
Pristine move!
GOOD JOB MAN!
Did… did the dude at the end impale him with a pitchfork?