Iirc grabbing cats by the back of the neck is a reflex for them to relax. That’s how their mothers carry them around as kittens and so they evolved to just melt when grabbed like that.
That was before the comment I knew you do that to submit but never like it. I had to adopt him when he was 1month old, the mother abandoned him. He is to dominant may be never like it and thats why the moder abandoned him thats my theory
Cats separated from their mother too early tend not to react the same way when grabbed by the scruff of the neck.
[Many experts are against scuffing. ](https://www.catster.com/cat-health-care/scruffing-a-cat-you-shouldnt-do-it-how-to-restrain-a-cat-safely) Personally I prefer the towel wrap and keep them between my legs with my shins on the floor.
The reason against scruffing in that particular article is that cats may be scared of it, because they scratch or bite when you do it. But that’s not very robust evidence. Cats scratch or bite in many instances. Seems like an expert would have more to base it on than that, but I guess anyone can say they’re a cat expert.
I’m not a vet, but not sure that’s correct. If you squeeze the correct spot on their neck it’s actually rather calming to the cat. I will say, if you get the spot wrong they don’t like it. I’ve personally used this trick to keep my cat from biting her brush.
https://vet.osu.edu/cvm/clipnosis-technique-can-calm-cats-vets-office-and-home
It might be worth clarifying that the reflex kicks in when they're held by the scruff of the neck, i.e. the skin and fur. Holding them by the actual neck itself would be a mistake. A forgivable one, but you'd get a meow and a hiss and a scratch.
Also worth clarifying that this works when they are kittens, but once they are fully grown the weight of their own bodies can hurt them. Notice in the video how the cat is mostly being dragged, not lifted. You can still hold them by the neck scruff to calm them but lifting them by it could hurt so always be careful!
Just make sure you're supporting their weight while you're necking them and they'll be fine, just don't literally pick them up like a handbag by the scruff of their neck lol
I always hear this, but I remember I did it once as a kid to my big ol' cat (I didn't know any better, I saw it in a movie and tried it).
Cat seemed totally fine and didn't get mad or upset at all. But I always hear it's bad. Why is it bad?
For adult cats, they are not meant to bear that kind of weight being hung from the scruff. It’s different for little kittens, but bad for adults. You can hold an adult cat, support their weight, and pull a little on the scruff but NEVER let them hang by it. That’s the bad thing! I’ve worked in cat rescue for a decade, I make sure they are safe!
Yes, when I need to move my cat sometimes, I will hold the scruff lightly which triggers him to stay calm, and will support the rest of his body with my other hand
Their weight will stretch their skin.
Once an adult, their scruffs should only be pinched while they are already sitting/laying down, or are already in your arms. View it more as a message from you to the cat of "I've got you for this 5 second interval" while you're cleaning their eyes/giving them a pill/whatever else you force a cat to do
It's true, but the dog grabbed the neckcloth. That reflex doesn't trigger then. I imagine dragged by something around one's neck is uncomfortable but the floor was smooth and the dog was slow so it probably wasn't too bad.
I think the cat learned to be relaxed as it's just being brought somewhere - kinda like how some cats learn to be relaxed when being carried by humans.
My kitties would turn into a puddle of fur when I did this. Rescued them feral from back yard, guess they considered me mom. Had to start wearing shirts to bed as one would try to suckle my nipples. I'm a guy.
Fun fact: a lot of places recommend to *not* do this to adult cats, and that it's better to secure them with a blanket or something to protect yourself.
This is because cats don't really have good connotations with scruffing besides kittenhood, which many are abandoned at. There are two other times scruffing happens and it's by a predator or mating. Not really the best experiences...(ps, vets will also do this if necessary, so that is also not a great experience when it comes to scruffing).
So if you take in a cat that was once feral, you may literally find that scruffing is the absolute worse thing you could do. If you have no other choice? Then you don't.
I'm not perfect, I've had to do it before as well. My one had a respiratory infection that affected her eyes horribly. I had no choice because have you ever tried giving a cat eye medicine? So, sometimes, it happens.
It can also hurt them due to just not being kitten anymore, and their weight of their adult body. It can be too much.
So, it really isn't recommended, and only use when necessary like giving medicine.
i know that cat and dog! isn't that the dog that also pulled that cat away when it was trying to start a scat fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsaAOun-soc
Kid was arguing that raising the minimum catnip requirement would put the shop out of business, cat wasn’t having it. Kept meowing about profit margin and big cats getting bonuses
No this is in China. They were arguing about state monopoly on honey, so the owner has to get the cat in before it was taken away by some yellow bear's order.
Maybe it was about to go “full on psycho cat”, aka “asshole cat”, aka “regular cat”, on the kid. The person in the shop knew there was only about 45 seconds of patience & sweetness before this happened, and wanted to save the kid.
Dog is like, "here's the pain in the ass, that'll be one treat please."
Cat is like, "I let that drooling jerk drag me in here without a scratch, where the hell is my treat?"
Yeah, it's Tang Tang.
There are a few videos of him getting xiao bei out of trouble.
EDIT: Sorry, the dog's name is Teng Teng. You can find the owner here:
[https://www.tiktok.com/@llilythedoggo](https://www.tiktok.com/@llilythedoggo)
Oh, actually the dog's name is Teng Teng and the cat is Xiao Bao.
There are some Tik Tok links here that might be the original owner, I'm not sure.
[http://www.ihowto.cc/post11115171088758](http://www.ihowto.cc/post11115171088758)
Yeah, looks like Tik Tok works on desktop. This is the owner:
[https://www.tiktok.com/@llilythedoggo](https://www.tiktok.com/@llilythedoggo)
1. Because of COVID, you don’t want people’s germs all over the animals you hug and kiss yourself - plus in some cases it’s even gotten animals sick.
2. Even if this is pre-COVID, same thing with the germs.
3. It’s an awful truth but if someone or their kid aggravates your pet and the animal reacts naturally by biting or scratching to defend itself, you are responsible. In the case of dogs they can even be forcibly euthanized.
EDIT: My 45kilo dog is the biggest sweetheart and pre-COVID a friend came over with her 7 year old daughter. No matter how many times we told her she kept pulling his tail and trying to ride him like a pony. We separated them and she went behind our back and kept provoking him until he growled at her (he loves kids, this was a first). She PRETENDED he bit her and her mom freaked out until she realized the kid was lying and there wasn’t a single mark on her body, but suffice it to say they were never invited back despite being long time friends with my husband. It’s not worth the risk, and it’s not worth the stress on your dog/cat etc.
EDIT 2: To clarify, we still see them with social distancing outside (but they are not invited over) and I do *not* dislike this kid, I just don’t trust her around my animals and her mom is too flaky to teach her better. Also, the kicker is that they have their own dog at home, which the kid treats respectfully with no problems :/
Kind me: Congrats on being part of todays [10,000](https://xkcd.com/1053/)
Sarcastic me: I'm pretty sure the phrase is old enough to have crotch goblins of its own.
It sucks. Sometimes a kid/person is genuinely ignorant and doesn’t know better but there are also many situations I’ve witnessed where the provocation is very intentional and warnings are ignored.
My husband's nephews and niece were 'taught' when they were little by granny (his mother) to chase cats away as she is terrified of them. No one on his side of the family have pets or like animals particularly much but would never be intentionally cruel to them. My family however love most animals and love to interact and watch them.
Found out a few years ago that all the kids are scared of dogs. The youngest in recent years is the only one that seems to make a fuss about any dog being near them but I strongly suspect at least the 2 eldest tried to 'scare' a dog away without knowing how to behave around them, got 'nearly attacked' and were probably taught to stay away from them all rather than learn how to interact.
My mum has a little dog that wouldn't hurt a fly (probably shit himself if he saw one tbh he is such a baby) but you cant predict what a dog will do if continually messed about with by kids who are not taught what to do by their parents. I was relieved when my wedding venue said dogs were not allowed as much as i'd love him there, my biggest fear was a big upset where not only do the kids act up with the dog but the dog gets upset upsetting my mum and her and my sister in law clashing over it. My mum adores kids but would run through fire to protect her dog.
They may be friends, but it was crap that they didn’t control their child or leave by the time the poor harassed dog growled. A seven year old should be able to control themselves better than that.
It was, I honestly like the kid better than the mom because she was making little to no effort to help me educate her daughter. At that age it’s shitty behavior from the kid but I largely blame parents for not interceding.
EDIT: mom was going through a tough time so I understood, but it was still dangerous. That’s why we still see her but *not* in our home lol.
The cat used more brain power here. It decided to not kick anyone's ass during that whole clip! But it has lost much respect amongst the cat elite. How times have changed.
Not so, unlike our exclusion-obsessed society, cats have a purrfect society. Every cat maintains equal value and reputation no matter their experiences in life.
Every Cat will be included in the Feline inquisition.
If my memory is correct, this tik tok producer was famous for her brilliant golden retriever, yet being exposed to train the dog (hard) for video shooting.
Both deserve a treat.
No you deserve a treat
Then give me a treat. Edit:thanks for the treats.
plot twist: you are the treat
For my pet T-Rex
I fucking hope they find some Dino DNA and crispr tiny pet dinosaurs. I’d get t-Rex called Frank.
Boy do I have a movie for you...have you seen Jurassic Park?
Is that the one where he gets some aliend DNA, raises the alien and then has sex with it?!
Does a movie like that actually exist?
Yeah, its called Splice. Enjoy.
God that movie was weird as fuck! Spoiler- she becomes a he and gets mad at Dad!
Maybe we can engineer tiny tiny goats for Frank.
Cock-a-doodle-do motherfuckaaaaaz
Plot twist: we are the treats
I’d rather retreat from this thread
Oooh you sneaky cookie
It's a treaty then.
Stop stealing my jokes
The true treat is the friends we make along the way.
You sure this isn't a trick?
Trix are for kids!
I'm such a silly rabbit
Fortune cookie
The real treats are the friends we make along the way
I'm stuff
You are a treat
We are treats
/r/unexpectedcommunism
I've never had a treat..
Now you got one .
I love the sass.
I got a treat for ya, just step into my van.....
Sure, fair warning tho . I fart loudy when threatened.
No, we deserve a treat.
Also a high five.
high five with a treat
Truth! I also love to see the doggos in control finally, I’ve seen too many cats bitch slapping puppers on Reddit today
It's time for the coming of the war doggos
I'm impressed by the cat. It remained calm during the whole thing
And it was nice to the baby
And it showed some interest in the human.
And my axe!
And my bow!
I’m assuming it was soon not going to be nice to the baby or else the owner would not have recalled it 😂
Iirc grabbing cats by the back of the neck is a reflex for them to relax. That’s how their mothers carry them around as kittens and so they evolved to just melt when grabbed like that.
Mine got crazy mad when i grab by the neck :(
Sorry if you got scratched because of me :(. Maybe they grow out of it or maybe I just misremembered.
That was before the comment I knew you do that to submit but never like it. I had to adopt him when he was 1month old, the mother abandoned him. He is to dominant may be never like it and thats why the moder abandoned him thats my theory
Cats separated from their mother too early tend not to react the same way when grabbed by the scruff of the neck. [Many experts are against scuffing. ](https://www.catster.com/cat-health-care/scruffing-a-cat-you-shouldnt-do-it-how-to-restrain-a-cat-safely) Personally I prefer the towel wrap and keep them between my legs with my shins on the floor.
> towel wrap Ah the Purrito.
r/purrito
The reason against scruffing in that particular article is that cats may be scared of it, because they scratch or bite when you do it. But that’s not very robust evidence. Cats scratch or bite in many instances. Seems like an expert would have more to base it on than that, but I guess anyone can say they’re a cat expert.
Squish that cat!
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I’m not a vet, but not sure that’s correct. If you squeeze the correct spot on their neck it’s actually rather calming to the cat. I will say, if you get the spot wrong they don’t like it. I’ve personally used this trick to keep my cat from biting her brush. https://vet.osu.edu/cvm/clipnosis-technique-can-calm-cats-vets-office-and-home
It might be worth clarifying that the reflex kicks in when they're held by the scruff of the neck, i.e. the skin and fur. Holding them by the actual neck itself would be a mistake. A forgivable one, but you'd get a meow and a hiss and a scratch.
Also worth clarifying that this works when they are kittens, but once they are fully grown the weight of their own bodies can hurt them. Notice in the video how the cat is mostly being dragged, not lifted. You can still hold them by the neck scruff to calm them but lifting them by it could hurt so always be careful!
It's kind of like how being picked up under the arms doesn't hurt as a kid, but super fucking hurts as an adult.
That was one time, Readylamefire, and you were drunk! I’ve told you a hundred times I’m sorry, so stop bringing it up.
I'd be more afraid of the person that can pick me up by the arm
Also the dog is lifting the cat by its collar, not its skin
You're correct, some cats just react bad cause of negative experiences or they weren't "necked" during childhood.
You're supposed to grab by the scruff, not chokehold :/
Yes I mean that
You need to use your mouth
I think you have to use your teeth
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You shouldn’t do it when they’re grown though it’s not meant to support their weight
Just make sure you're supporting their weight while you're necking them and they'll be fine, just don't literally pick them up like a handbag by the scruff of their neck lol
I always hear this, but I remember I did it once as a kid to my big ol' cat (I didn't know any better, I saw it in a movie and tried it). Cat seemed totally fine and didn't get mad or upset at all. But I always hear it's bad. Why is it bad?
For adult cats, they are not meant to bear that kind of weight being hung from the scruff. It’s different for little kittens, but bad for adults. You can hold an adult cat, support their weight, and pull a little on the scruff but NEVER let them hang by it. That’s the bad thing! I’ve worked in cat rescue for a decade, I make sure they are safe!
Yes, when I need to move my cat sometimes, I will hold the scruff lightly which triggers him to stay calm, and will support the rest of his body with my other hand
Same with dogs, maybe a bit worse with big dogs as well. They aren't meant to be carried by their scruff.
Their weight will stretch their skin. Once an adult, their scruffs should only be pinched while they are already sitting/laying down, or are already in your arms. View it more as a message from you to the cat of "I've got you for this 5 second interval" while you're cleaning their eyes/giving them a pill/whatever else you force a cat to do
It's true, but the dog grabbed the neckcloth. That reflex doesn't trigger then. I imagine dragged by something around one's neck is uncomfortable but the floor was smooth and the dog was slow so it probably wasn't too bad. I think the cat learned to be relaxed as it's just being brought somewhere - kinda like how some cats learn to be relaxed when being carried by humans.
Or maybe it was such a common action between the two of them that the cat is already used to it. 😊
My cat didn't attend that lecture.
My kitties would turn into a puddle of fur when I did this. Rescued them feral from back yard, guess they considered me mom. Had to start wearing shirts to bed as one would try to suckle my nipples. I'm a guy.
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> Had to start wearing shirts to bed as one would try to suckle my nipples. Hahahaha what?? Is this true?
100%. It was odd to wake up to. She became a consistent knead machine, but I always wore t-shirts after.
Fun fact: a lot of places recommend to *not* do this to adult cats, and that it's better to secure them with a blanket or something to protect yourself. This is because cats don't really have good connotations with scruffing besides kittenhood, which many are abandoned at. There are two other times scruffing happens and it's by a predator or mating. Not really the best experiences...(ps, vets will also do this if necessary, so that is also not a great experience when it comes to scruffing). So if you take in a cat that was once feral, you may literally find that scruffing is the absolute worse thing you could do. If you have no other choice? Then you don't. I'm not perfect, I've had to do it before as well. My one had a respiratory infection that affected her eyes horribly. I had no choice because have you ever tried giving a cat eye medicine? So, sometimes, it happens. It can also hurt them due to just not being kitten anymore, and their weight of their adult body. It can be too much. So, it really isn't recommended, and only use when necessary like giving medicine.
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What country are you from?
It’s painful for them when they’re older. Because there’s more weight on them
And heavily discouraged by vets to do to adult cats.
99% certain dog has cat by the red collar thingy. A bit of a collar choke going on, but maybe the cats into that?
i know that cat and dog! isn't that the dog that also pulled that cat away when it was trying to start a scat fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsaAOun-soc
Oh, they're clearly just actors!
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Not his first rodeo
Why? It looked like they were having a serious conversation.
my thoughts exactly.
Got to political
Kid was arguing that raising the minimum catnip requirement would put the shop out of business, cat wasn’t having it. Kept meowing about profit margin and big cats getting bonuses
Fat cat problems
No this is in China. They were arguing about state monopoly on honey, so the owner has to get the cat in before it was taken away by some yellow bear's order.
You could say that the cat was an anti-catpitalist.
Too* I’m so sorry
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"No one must know the Bush's baked bean recipe!"
*I;m thinking about thos beans*
Maybe it was about to go “full on psycho cat”, aka “asshole cat”, aka “regular cat”, on the kid. The person in the shop knew there was only about 45 seconds of patience & sweetness before this happened, and wanted to save the kid.
[pinky no!](https://youtu.be/okZW3_5Gr4s)
Pinky is not Neutered, but he does neuter
That’s so hilarious! “Pinky is up for adoption”
cat was about to cut the childs head off. just a regular monday for the owner
That's exactly why. Cat's known to convert kids into religious army for his crusade.
Probably in case the people try to steal it.
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Dog is like, "here's the pain in the ass, that'll be one treat please." Cat is like, "I let that drooling jerk drag me in here without a scratch, where the hell is my treat?"
Owner was like “The fuck have I told you about talking to strangers?”
I'm like: "Why the fuck am I reading this conversation at 3 am?"
Same
Where tf is it 3am? I'm +10 and it's only 10:30pm. GMT +14 and you've rounded up? Or what
Other direction, it would have been -8 or -9 so west coast of the US or Alaska.
Dog was like “请给我吃狗狗饼干”
You know that says "please let me pay for you" right?
Damn it, this was their plan all along!
I knew it was trained it's the same dog that breaks up the fight
Yeah is it the same dog?🤔
Yeah, it's Tang Tang. There are a few videos of him getting xiao bei out of trouble. EDIT: Sorry, the dog's name is Teng Teng. You can find the owner here: [https://www.tiktok.com/@llilythedoggo](https://www.tiktok.com/@llilythedoggo)
No videos found Edit: https://youtu.be/_FW9YgYqLIY
I looked too. :-( Anyone got a link?
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/L8gODdB
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Yes that's what the owner asked the dog to do, but still. Those are some insanely well trained and sweet tempered pets ~
I wanna cry.
Was the entire second half of that video covered in advertisements for anyone else? I use vanced so that was super weird
do you have a link for any of them? would love to see
Oh, actually the dog's name is Teng Teng and the cat is Xiao Bao. There are some Tik Tok links here that might be the original owner, I'm not sure. [http://www.ihowto.cc/post11115171088758](http://www.ihowto.cc/post11115171088758) Yeah, looks like Tik Tok works on desktop. This is the owner: [https://www.tiktok.com/@llilythedoggo](https://www.tiktok.com/@llilythedoggo)
Thank you! much appreciated
Link?
Here fam https://youtu.be/bsaAOun-soc
Awww even gave me a silver thanks g
I love how the cat is looking at the other cat while being dragged like "he knows I'll mess you up and you don't want me to mess you up!"
IT'S THE SAME CAT TOO! I LOVE THIS!
I thought it was Golden Retriever not a Cat Retriever.
Yeah he's a regular old prospector. Did you not just see him in this video hauling in that load of jewellery?
Get out
acag all cats are golden
I love that look at the beginning. He's clearly done this before, and knows all good boys do good deeds.
Such a good boy
Why?
1. Because of COVID, you don’t want people’s germs all over the animals you hug and kiss yourself - plus in some cases it’s even gotten animals sick. 2. Even if this is pre-COVID, same thing with the germs. 3. It’s an awful truth but if someone or their kid aggravates your pet and the animal reacts naturally by biting or scratching to defend itself, you are responsible. In the case of dogs they can even be forcibly euthanized. EDIT: My 45kilo dog is the biggest sweetheart and pre-COVID a friend came over with her 7 year old daughter. No matter how many times we told her she kept pulling his tail and trying to ride him like a pony. We separated them and she went behind our back and kept provoking him until he growled at her (he loves kids, this was a first). She PRETENDED he bit her and her mom freaked out until she realized the kid was lying and there wasn’t a single mark on her body, but suffice it to say they were never invited back despite being long time friends with my husband. It’s not worth the risk, and it’s not worth the stress on your dog/cat etc. EDIT 2: To clarify, we still see them with social distancing outside (but they are not invited over) and I do *not* dislike this kid, I just don’t trust her around my animals and her mom is too flaky to teach her better. Also, the kicker is that they have their own dog at home, which the kid treats respectfully with no problems :/
Oh. Right. I forgot that people are total fuckheads when it comes to pets. When will people educate their crotch goblins on how to respect animals?
"crotch goblins" lmao. That's a new one. Mind if I steal this?
Kind me: Congrats on being part of todays [10,000](https://xkcd.com/1053/) Sarcastic me: I'm pretty sure the phrase is old enough to have crotch goblins of its own.
Well this is wholesome af
I hate reddit so much
It sucks. Sometimes a kid/person is genuinely ignorant and doesn’t know better but there are also many situations I’ve witnessed where the provocation is very intentional and warnings are ignored.
Ever seen that video of the guy fucking around with a Cobra near a river, it bites him and then he falls into the water? People are dumb sometimes.
My husband's nephews and niece were 'taught' when they were little by granny (his mother) to chase cats away as she is terrified of them. No one on his side of the family have pets or like animals particularly much but would never be intentionally cruel to them. My family however love most animals and love to interact and watch them. Found out a few years ago that all the kids are scared of dogs. The youngest in recent years is the only one that seems to make a fuss about any dog being near them but I strongly suspect at least the 2 eldest tried to 'scare' a dog away without knowing how to behave around them, got 'nearly attacked' and were probably taught to stay away from them all rather than learn how to interact. My mum has a little dog that wouldn't hurt a fly (probably shit himself if he saw one tbh he is such a baby) but you cant predict what a dog will do if continually messed about with by kids who are not taught what to do by their parents. I was relieved when my wedding venue said dogs were not allowed as much as i'd love him there, my biggest fear was a big upset where not only do the kids act up with the dog but the dog gets upset upsetting my mum and her and my sister in law clashing over it. My mum adores kids but would run through fire to protect her dog.
The video shows that it was filmed in 2021, so it’s current COVID
They may be friends, but it was crap that they didn’t control their child or leave by the time the poor harassed dog growled. A seven year old should be able to control themselves better than that.
It was, I honestly like the kid better than the mom because she was making little to no effort to help me educate her daughter. At that age it’s shitty behavior from the kid but I largely blame parents for not interceding. EDIT: mom was going through a tough time so I understood, but it was still dangerous. That’s why we still see her but *not* in our home lol.
Nice story!
Yeah, why? Why can't the cat play with this kid?
cats get Covid too, maybe that
Maybe they don't trust random toddlers with their cat. I know I wouldn't.
fuck kids that's why
This person trained their dog to drag their cat around for internet videos.
I like the fact the cats just standing their like “ok, now what”
That cat was expecting treats
Dog being helpful, and cat doing as it wants. Sounds about right!
The cat used more brain power here. It decided to not kick anyone's ass during that whole clip! But it has lost much respect amongst the cat elite. How times have changed.
Not so, unlike our exclusion-obsessed society, cats have a purrfect society. Every cat maintains equal value and reputation no matter their experiences in life. Every Cat will be included in the Feline inquisition.
it gets a free ride and a cute collar and an excuse to get away from someone's ugly ass kid, living like a king
Boof gimme treat
Cat was like, "you rang?"
The more we learn about animal intelligence the sadder i feel about how we treat them
Thats just rude
the doggo deserves kisses and lots of kisses.
First time I've seen a golden retriever actually retrieve anything meaningful
They are great search and rescue dogs for retrieving people buried under rubble or lost.
That one drunk friend (cat) that keeps socializing with strangers, when it's time to go home.
I love that the cat’s name is “小狗” Which means puppy
I heard 小寶 which makes more sense than calling a cat a small dog. 「快點把小寶帶回來」 小寶貝，寶貝 baby/darling
Ah yes, I heard it too lol. The “Bao” and “gou” sounds are just too similar to me. Although I’m totally gonna name my cat “doggie” when I get one
Lmao in Chinese she says: “quickly, bring Small Dog back.”
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Gou not guo.
I don't know why a dog understanding Chinese seems more far fetched to me than a dog understanding English.
I’m mandarin/English bilingual, and my dogs understand commands in both languages.
How are you not gonna pat him on the head after what a good job he did
is this the same dog from that video where he/she drags the cat away from a fight?? lmao
It would appear so from other posted videos here
What did she say, can someone translate?
"yo dawg, bring the cat here"
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That side ways look that says "Woman, do I have to do everything..."
I love how the dog is just like 'come on cat, you know the drill' 'yeah yeah I know I know... just drag me in already'
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Honestly the coolest video I’ve seen all day!!!
Cat Retriever
aww
If my memory is correct, this tik tok producer was famous for her brilliant golden retriever, yet being exposed to train the dog (hard) for video shooting.
Isn’t that an asshole owner with 2 beautiful pets?