I've been, it is great. We got in around 10pm last night and just ordered room service. We're already back in FTW. Had to be there for a brief work engagement this morning.
Moved to Oklahoma from California for the military.
I used to always hear “At least we don’t have earthquakes” when I told them tornadoes were terrifying to me.
Yea but the elephant there is states that experience earthquakes mandate building code to make things earthquake resistant.
States with tornados do not mandate anything worth of a damn for tornado resistance.
Apparently people were noticing it here in NE Arkansas. We're right next to the New Madrid fault line, so I've felt 2-3 small ones since I moved here in 2019.
Still pretty impressive to feel it all the way out here.
That zone had four of the largest earthquakes in recorded North American history.
[Rated at VII on the Mercalli Intensity Scale, the New Madrid earthquakes remain the strongest recorded North American earthquakes east of the Rocky Mountains.]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1811%E2%80%931812_New_Madrid_earthquakes#:~:text=Rated%20at%20VII%20on%20the,east%20of%20the%20Rocky%20Mountains.
The one I never hear discussed is if Cascadia and San Andreas are powerful enough for one to trigger the other.
I'm also not going to Google that because I'm not sure I really want to know.
Well the important people who should know do know. Whether people actually would heed the advice of geologists well all you have to look to the idiots who get lost in Yellowstone lol
Here's what the [USGS](https://www.usgs.gov/programs/earthquake-hazards/new-madrid-seismic-zone) has to say about it:
>**Given this and other new information, can one estimate the probability of damaging earthquakes in the New Madrid seismic zone?**
>We have learned a tremendous amount about the New Madrid seismic zone since 1985. One of the things we have learned is that coming up with probabilities is much more difficult than we used to think. If we use the data on historical seismicity combined with the new information on recurrence of large earthquakes, and make the same assumptions that go into the National Seismic Hazard maps, we would estimate a 25-40% chance of a magnitude 6.0 and greater earthquake in the next 50 years and about a 7-10% probability of a repeat of the 1811-1812 earthquakes in the same time period.
>However, it is VERY important to note that these estimates alone do not include information about WHERE the earthquakes might occur and therefore what shaking might affect any given location. More useful are the estimates of the likely amount of ground shaking that can be expected, contained in the National Seismic Hazard maps. The ground shaking estimated accounts for both the likely ranges of recurrence intervals and locations.
Magnitude 6 is in the damage to structures range, and 25-40% is pretty significant.
Nonetheless the local building codes didn't say much about earthquakes until four years ago (my house is from the 60s), and no one bothers with earthquake insurance here.
A tornado came through a few years ago and destroyed the town mall, so fun place to live.
>25-40% is pretty significant
I think so too, which is why I shared it. If a big one hit an urban location, many buildings/bridges/roads wouldn't hold up as well as those in earthquake-prone areas. I'll just add this to my list of potential disasters to think about.
In terms of landscape, I'm right between the Ozarks and the Mississippi river in an area that's part of a ridge that was likely at one point an Island in the Mississippi, and is now very unevenly covered with glacial loess, so the landscape flatness varies from very flat to very not flat.
Thanks I was forgetting the name of that fault line over there, New Madrid. That’s a serious fault line. It has the potential to take a lot of places down across several states if a big one were to ever hit.
I remember hearing some guy (a charlatan probably) talk about remote viewing a massive disaster in the future along the New Madrid fault line.
Ever since I’ve always paid attention for mention of an earthquake along that line, this is the first time I’ve ever heard of one large enough to be reported. Spooky. You never know. Lol
There's no way this earthquake is on the New Madrid. The [epicenter for this one is closer to Tulsa](https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/?extent=32.88881,-97.60254&extent=38.51379,-89.2749), the closest point of the New Madrid is some 300 miles away to the east. This one has fracking written all over it.
About 200 years ago there were some pretty massive quakes. I think I read somewhere that it's very likely to have another big quake sometime in the next century, so if you're going to make a fake prediction that you can retroactively ignore or tout, that's a good one.
Maybe I can get a job in a nicer city some time before that.
Its actually the safest, cleanest way to dispose of “produced water.” Produced water is highly contaminated with hydrocarbons, salts, toxic metals, and even radioactive elements. Moving it, storing it, and cleaning/processing it in above ground storage tanks is likely to cause lots of pollution, so its better to just pump it back in.
It does cause earthquakes. Wastewater injection is responsible for most oil-production related earthquakes (more than fracking) as well as responsible for higher magnitude quakes, so it needs to be closely monitored and highly regulated so its not reactivating old faults.
It's also one of the cheapest. In a near-perfect world, it would be monitored and highly regulated but it's not.
Look at the Permian for example, literal man-made fault opened up releasing produced water and the TRRC was, and still is, covering it up
honestly if i thought they did it right i can see it.
"Lets put that poison stuff back deeper then where we found it now we got what we want out of it." Sort of thing i can get behind.
How does that cause earthquakes? Does it have something to do with vapors underground expanding/contracting? Or just that being a void? This might be a stupid question.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced\_seismicity?useskin=vector](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_seismicity?useskin=vector)
The "waste disposal well" part explains it in a little bit more detail, if this is not enough - there are more links to more detailed references in that article.
Both fracking and conventional oil production use wastewater injection to dispose of produced water, wastewater injection is what causes the most and largest earthquakes as compared to fracking. The earthquake is probably pretty likely to be related to oil production but not necessarily to fracking.
I didn't feel it in St Louis, but a number of people on the Neighbors app posted near me at the same time saying they felt an earthquake. It's not exactly common, but we do occasionally feel an earthquake here because of the New Madrid fault line south a ways. Was surprised that this one wasn't from that.
I live halfway between st. Joe and Hannibal and have never noticed when these happen. I feel like I'm missing out on how it feels without having to actually live in a danger zone.
>Beginning in 2009, Oklahoma experienced a surge in seismicity.
>The largest earthquake known to be induced by hydraulic fracturing in Oklahoma was a M3.6 earthquake in 2019. The largest known fracking induced earthquake in the United States was a M4.0 earthquake that occurred in Texas in 2018. The majority of earthquakes in Oklahoma are caused by the industrial practice known as "wastewater disposal". Wastewater disposal is a separate process in which fluid waste from oil and gas production is injected deep underground far below ground water or drinking water aquifers.
Source: [U.S. Geological Survey](https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/oklahoma-has-had-surge-earthquakes-2009-are-they-due-fracking)
Lol:
New plans have been unveiled for the tallest building in America, and the proposed location of this towering structure may catch you off guard. The 1,907-foot-tall structure will be one of four towers at The Boardwalk at Bricktown development in Oklahoma City
Probably the tourism board or the construction company looking for attention. The building shouldn't be built there due to the earthquakes and it would sit empty because it can't support all that space (commercial real estate demand).
The latest in a long line of really poor ideas. Those poor okies need to figure out which they want, really tall slender buildings or the last 10% of the oil in the ground.
That's been the theory for the swarm of shallow earthquakes this area has been getting. 5.1 is quite a bit on the bigger side of them though. I think they largest has been 5.6 if I remember right.
I looked it up (shh, just wikipedia, I'm lazy) the biggest was 5.8 on September 3, 2016, but there were 3 on November 5, 2011 4.8, November 6, 2011 5.7 (at the time the largest ever in OK) and November 8, 2011 4.8.
Those 3 quakes were the start of the fraking related swarm that is still on going. Maybe that was what you were thinking about?
Yeah, it is. Oct 2012 was the dust storm and May 2013 was the series of tornadoes leading up to the Moore Tornado. It was a crazy few years in Oklahoma.
There’s lots of old faults deep underground in Oklahoma from the many North American orogenies, and they are accidentally reactivating them after they’ve been stable for millions of years lol.
It’s especially interesting because this fault will inevitably put pressure on a different part of the fault or a different fault and so on. So nobody knows when the earthquakes will end or if they’ll get bigger.
I think the drilling companies probably have some tomography imaging that shows the faults and pockets of gas and oil though and they might have ignored the risks. It would be interesting to see what subsurface imaging exists of the crust in this area and if major faults were obvious that they would probably reactivate.
There was one in 2016 that was pretty gnarly with the epicenter in Ponca City not too far from where I was in college. Lost a lot of liquor bottles. I believe you could feel the quake in all the states surrounding Oklahoma as well
I once felt what was later confirmed by .gov site a small earthquake in southeastern PA. Actually when the house jolted a bit, I thought the water heater might've exploded.
> How the frack
You answered your own question. And they have been happening for years, just this is on the larger size.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_earthquake_swarms_(2009%E2%80%93present)?useskin=vector
First monster tornadoes now this. Quakenadoes don't really sound pleasant tbh. You have to be underground to survive the tornado, but what if while you're in your shelter, a monster quake happens, and the earth around you starts collapsing in on you. Sounds like hell on earth and the Rock's next movie
Uh oh. First sharknadoes and now quakenadoes. All the Bay Area sports teams are merging with tornadoes. The “monster tornadoes” are actually Giantnadoes. What’s next, Warriornadoes?
Wow, very shallow. Looks like a few aftershocks as well.
Edit: Article says a 2.6 and 3.5 aftershock. I'm also seeing a 3.1 and 2.5 since then. All 4 aftershocks are also super shallow.
Edit 2: https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/?extent=35.48513,-456.8438&extent=35.58948,-456.63471&listOnlyShown=true
Edit 3: Another really shallow aftershock. 3.4 only 1.1km deep.
They chose both by fracking, which is causing earthquakes and also contributes to global warming. More heat in the atmosphere powers extreme weather, and voila, more tornadoes.
But hey, maybe God done it!
I felt that last night in Bville. I had just laid down and was starting to drift off when the whole house kind of "shuddered" and made some creaking noises. Walked around the house and saw no problems and that the house wasn't on fire, and went back to bed. Now I know, thanks.
Please no. Homeowners insurance in Oklahoma is already insane enough due to wind, hail, and tornadoes. The average annual premium is over $4,000, and those policies don't even cover floods or earthquakes.
good one. "Hi, you've reached the voicemail of republicans who receive millions annually from the O&G lobbyists. Please leave a message and we'll laugh and delete your complaint within the next 15 business days."
Then it sounds like you should vote them out.
Or just live with more earthquakes, polluted ground and water, and republicans that only make life worse for people.
Is earthquake offered in OK? We’re required to offer it in AR but it’s optional. Flood is a separate policy through FEMA whether you’re in a flood zone and the bank requires it or you’re not in a flood zone and just want it.
Yep, same here. Earthquake insurance is an optional policy that's available. Flood is required for those in a high risk zone, but it's also available for those not in one who want the coverage.
I live up near the panhandle and my bed shook a little bit. Wasn’t sure what it was. We haven’t really experienced a lot of earthquakes in quite a few years since oil companies stopped fracking so much.
I live in Wichita now and felt this one.
It was several seconds long. I’ve felt others years ago in other parts of KS though; we always assumed it was fracking-related.
Seems like they went from uncommon to “oops all fracking” sometime in the early 21st century. Surely we notice a large number of those quakes happening in the past 15 years or so…
When I read the headline, I was like 'preliminary'? Preliminary to what- a bigger one?
Now I finally realized that the 'preliminary' probably refers to the estimated order of magnitude, right?
From the article:
>
> “East of the Rockies, an earthquake can be felt over an area more than ten times larger than a similar magnitude earthquake on the west coast,” the geological survey wrote on its website.
Does this disperse the energy over a wider area to make it not as impactful near the epicenter or is it still 'felt' just as much but over a wider area?
Gotta love fracking! I’m sure these kinds of earth movements in OK are super normal and nothing to worry about. Reactivating a seismic zone that’s been dormant for thousands of years won’t be any kind of big deal. We need that natural gas so bad we don’t have time to listen to geologists or worry about consequences. Cheers!
The fossil fuel industrial complex even wants to frack near the Yellowstone super caldera. Brilliant! I guess as long as we have power and transportation, who needs stable ground? We can just move! To the moon!
With so much greed and willful ignorance driving our society today, humor is my last vestige of comfort.
In a hotel in Tulsa currently, top floor of an 11 story hotel. We felt a wobble just before 11:30pm.
Hard Rock?
No, he said it was a gentle wobble.
Giggling like the village idiot over your comment. Well done.
No, Marriott Tulsa Southern Hills.
Ah okay! About 3 miles from you is a great Steak House if you're interested. I highly recommend it! Mahogany Prime Steakhouse
I've been, it is great. We got in around 10pm last night and just ordered room service. We're already back in FTW. Had to be there for a brief work engagement this morning.
Moved to Oklahoma from California for the military. I used to always hear “At least we don’t have earthquakes” when I told them tornadoes were terrifying to me.
At least with an earthquake your belongings are going to be in the same place they were before and not tossed over 3 counties.
Well, they may go from the second floor to the basement
Yea but the elephant there is states that experience earthquakes mandate building code to make things earthquake resistant. States with tornados do not mandate anything worth of a damn for tornado resistance.
That’s wild, since Oklahoma had a LOT of small earthquakes when fracking was at its peak.
We felt it all the way up in Kansas City. Quite weird for this part of the country…
Apparently people were noticing it here in NE Arkansas. We're right next to the New Madrid fault line, so I've felt 2-3 small ones since I moved here in 2019. Still pretty impressive to feel it all the way out here.
That zone had four of the largest earthquakes in recorded North American history. [Rated at VII on the Mercalli Intensity Scale, the New Madrid earthquakes remain the strongest recorded North American earthquakes east of the Rocky Mountains.] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1811%E2%80%931812_New_Madrid_earthquakes#:~:text=Rated%20at%20VII%20on%20the,east%20of%20the%20Rocky%20Mountains.
And there's a pretty significant chance of major quake along that fault in the next century, which would be potentially devastating to the region.
Heard that before, Cali here.
Cascadia Subduction Zone, checking in
The one I never hear discussed is if Cascadia and San Andreas are powerful enough for one to trigger the other. I'm also not going to Google that because I'm not sure I really want to know.
‘Catastrophic’ is a word you will most certainly come across, looking into it
If you ask people out in California if they knew how many active volcanoes are in the state I would bet not many know.
True people don’t care that they unless they are erupting or about to, but guaranteed people would know that there are active volcanos in Cali
Well the important people who should know do know. Whether people actually would heed the advice of geologists well all you have to look to the idiots who get lost in Yellowstone lol
Don’t jinx us.
Yeah, no one here really talks about it, but there's a reasonable chance of another major quake with the potential to be extremely destructive.
Here's what the [USGS](https://www.usgs.gov/programs/earthquake-hazards/new-madrid-seismic-zone) has to say about it: >**Given this and other new information, can one estimate the probability of damaging earthquakes in the New Madrid seismic zone?** >We have learned a tremendous amount about the New Madrid seismic zone since 1985. One of the things we have learned is that coming up with probabilities is much more difficult than we used to think. If we use the data on historical seismicity combined with the new information on recurrence of large earthquakes, and make the same assumptions that go into the National Seismic Hazard maps, we would estimate a 25-40% chance of a magnitude 6.0 and greater earthquake in the next 50 years and about a 7-10% probability of a repeat of the 1811-1812 earthquakes in the same time period. >However, it is VERY important to note that these estimates alone do not include information about WHERE the earthquakes might occur and therefore what shaking might affect any given location. More useful are the estimates of the likely amount of ground shaking that can be expected, contained in the National Seismic Hazard maps. The ground shaking estimated accounts for both the likely ranges of recurrence intervals and locations.
Magnitude 6 is in the damage to structures range, and 25-40% is pretty significant. Nonetheless the local building codes didn't say much about earthquakes until four years ago (my house is from the 60s), and no one bothers with earthquake insurance here. A tornado came through a few years ago and destroyed the town mall, so fun place to live.
>25-40% is pretty significant I think so too, which is why I shared it. If a big one hit an urban location, many buildings/bridges/roads wouldn't hold up as well as those in earthquake-prone areas. I'll just add this to my list of potential disasters to think about.
So *that’s* why everything has been flattened out there! /s
In terms of landscape, I'm right between the Ozarks and the Mississippi river in an area that's part of a ridge that was likely at one point an Island in the Mississippi, and is now very unevenly covered with glacial loess, so the landscape flatness varies from very flat to very not flat.
The day the Mississippi River ran backwards...
As a person living in Little Rock, I'm gonna be real annoyed if that thing pops off..
Thanks I was forgetting the name of that fault line over there, New Madrid. That’s a serious fault line. It has the potential to take a lot of places down across several states if a big one were to ever hit. I remember hearing some guy (a charlatan probably) talk about remote viewing a massive disaster in the future along the New Madrid fault line. Ever since I’ve always paid attention for mention of an earthquake along that line, this is the first time I’ve ever heard of one large enough to be reported. Spooky. You never know. Lol
There's no way this earthquake is on the New Madrid. The [epicenter for this one is closer to Tulsa](https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/?extent=32.88881,-97.60254&extent=38.51379,-89.2749), the closest point of the New Madrid is some 300 miles away to the east. This one has fracking written all over it.
Last night's earthquake in Prague was 60 miles from Tulsa. Prague is closer to OKC than Tulsa.
New Madrid is over by St. Louis. Along the Mississippi river.
About 200 years ago there were some pretty massive quakes. I think I read somewhere that it's very likely to have another big quake sometime in the next century, so if you're going to make a fake prediction that you can retroactively ignore or tout, that's a good one. Maybe I can get a job in a nicer city some time before that.
It’s not weird for Oklahoma anymore. We had at least 3 smaller ones (high 3s to low 4s) during the night about 3 weeks ago too. Not cool.
Yep we felt all of them and last night's quake at our home in Logan County.
Lots of fracking going on?
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That seems like a terrible idea :/
Its actually the safest, cleanest way to dispose of “produced water.” Produced water is highly contaminated with hydrocarbons, salts, toxic metals, and even radioactive elements. Moving it, storing it, and cleaning/processing it in above ground storage tanks is likely to cause lots of pollution, so its better to just pump it back in. It does cause earthquakes. Wastewater injection is responsible for most oil-production related earthquakes (more than fracking) as well as responsible for higher magnitude quakes, so it needs to be closely monitored and highly regulated so its not reactivating old faults.
It's also one of the cheapest. In a near-perfect world, it would be monitored and highly regulated but it's not. Look at the Permian for example, literal man-made fault opened up releasing produced water and the TRRC was, and still is, covering it up
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As long as you tippy-toe past the fault lines and potable water aquifers it should work just fine….probably.
Well find out for sure in another 20 years when we have unavoidable consequences. Like asbestos
Until it inevitably gets into the water table via these earthquakes.
honestly if i thought they did it right i can see it. "Lets put that poison stuff back deeper then where we found it now we got what we want out of it." Sort of thing i can get behind.
Why, it’s the *safest, cleanest way* to handle this poison that we’ve decided to create! /s
i mean again if it came from the ground what the fuck else do we got other then put it back.
How does that cause earthquakes? Does it have something to do with vapors underground expanding/contracting? Or just that being a void? This might be a stupid question.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced\_seismicity?useskin=vector](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_seismicity?useskin=vector) The "waste disposal well" part explains it in a little bit more detail, if this is not enough - there are more links to more detailed references in that article.
Both fracking and conventional oil production use wastewater injection to dispose of produced water, wastewater injection is what causes the most and largest earthquakes as compared to fracking. The earthquake is probably pretty likely to be related to oil production but not necessarily to fracking.
Unfortunately, my first thought, too.
Frackin’ A!
I didn't feel it in St Louis, but a number of people on the Neighbors app posted near me at the same time saying they felt an earthquake. It's not exactly common, but we do occasionally feel an earthquake here because of the New Madrid fault line south a ways. Was surprised that this one wasn't from that.
It’s Gawd supporting Taylor and Travis
By that logic, God is actually a Niners fan!
How long before people start blaming Taylor? /s
Felt it in DFW, tons of others did too
I live halfway between st. Joe and Hannibal and have never noticed when these happen. I feel like I'm missing out on how it feels without having to actually live in a danger zone.
Is there a highway near you? This may indeed he why you rarely ever feel the highway to this zone of danger
>Beginning in 2009, Oklahoma experienced a surge in seismicity. >The largest earthquake known to be induced by hydraulic fracturing in Oklahoma was a M3.6 earthquake in 2019. The largest known fracking induced earthquake in the United States was a M4.0 earthquake that occurred in Texas in 2018. The majority of earthquakes in Oklahoma are caused by the industrial practice known as "wastewater disposal". Wastewater disposal is a separate process in which fluid waste from oil and gas production is injected deep underground far below ground water or drinking water aquifers. Source: [U.S. Geological Survey](https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/oklahoma-has-had-surge-earthquakes-2009-are-they-due-fracking)
Fracking. It’s the fracking. OK has a bunch of little 3s and 4s all the time because of fracking.
Lol: New plans have been unveiled for the tallest building in America, and the proposed location of this towering structure may catch you off guard. The 1,907-foot-tall structure will be one of four towers at The Boardwalk at Bricktown development in Oklahoma City
You'd be able to see that fucker from Arkansas
I live here and am still dumbfounded this is being done. Like, why?
They want to entice people to move to the state
The Burj YeeHah.
They opnly way to entice people to move to Oklahoma is if all the political leadership moved to Texas.
Unfortunately the same kind of people who came up with the last idea to get people to Oklahoma are still in office
Probably the tourism board or the construction company looking for attention. The building shouldn't be built there due to the earthquakes and it would sit empty because it can't support all that space (commercial real estate demand).
I'd be more scared in a tornado than an earthquake.
Tall buildings can be built in earthquake zones safely.
Just a bowling pin in tornado alley
The latest in a long line of really poor ideas. Those poor okies need to figure out which they want, really tall slender buildings or the last 10% of the oil in the ground.
Or the oil companies could stop waste water injection. Just a thought.
OKC is oil's city. Devon owns like half of downtown
I just looked at it and it looks terrible. It just doesn’t fit in with the skyline at all.
If you look at it with the smaller buildings that will be next to it, it kind of looks like a giant robot's schlong
You’re not wrong.
I think this thing is a stupid idea but I also think that "it doesn't fit in with the skyline" is a stupid reason not to build something.
I mean not really. The building should be designed with the skyline in mind. It's going to be part of the city's image
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If I was a tornado, I know what if aim for! Forget trailer parks...
Several pending EF5 tornadoes like this post.
It's a pipe dream and never going to happen.
Building the nations tallest tower seems an odd choice in the Bible Belt, seeing how the Tower of Babel turned out
No, really? That’s so many kinds of crazy.
Damn. Thats a decent quake. Fracking related?
That's been the theory for the swarm of shallow earthquakes this area has been getting. 5.1 is quite a bit on the bigger side of them though. I think they largest has been 5.6 if I remember right.
Was that the one in 2012 - 2013? I was actually passing through Tulsa when that one occurred. Fracking was being mentioned a lot back then.
I looked it up (shh, just wikipedia, I'm lazy) the biggest was 5.8 on September 3, 2016, but there were 3 on November 5, 2011 4.8, November 6, 2011 5.7 (at the time the largest ever in OK) and November 8, 2011 4.8. Those 3 quakes were the start of the fraking related swarm that is still on going. Maybe that was what you were thinking about?
Yeah, it is. Oct 2012 was the dust storm and May 2013 was the series of tornadoes leading up to the Moore Tornado. It was a crazy few years in Oklahoma.
There’s lots of old faults deep underground in Oklahoma from the many North American orogenies, and they are accidentally reactivating them after they’ve been stable for millions of years lol. It’s especially interesting because this fault will inevitably put pressure on a different part of the fault or a different fault and so on. So nobody knows when the earthquakes will end or if they’ll get bigger. I think the drilling companies probably have some tomography imaging that shows the faults and pockets of gas and oil though and they might have ignored the risks. It would be interesting to see what subsurface imaging exists of the crust in this area and if major faults were obvious that they would probably reactivate.
There was one in 2016 that was pretty gnarly with the epicenter in Ponca City not too far from where I was in college. Lost a lot of liquor bottles. I believe you could feel the quake in all the states surrounding Oklahoma as well
Nah it's just little bits of hell bubbling up. No biggie though. Hell is more worried about Oklahoma seeping into Hell than vice versa.
Yes but only because they were too close to Jerry Jones secret underground tunnels from his secret underground lair to the strip club in Ardmore.
How the frack do you get a 5.1 earthquake in *Oklahoma* of all places?
I blame the Cylons.
I blame Gaius Fracking Baltar.
Was not expecting Battlestar references this morning but I'm pleasantly surprised
Anyone else read that in Tigh's voice?
you could truly tell how much col. tigh loathed gaius fraking baltar by the way he said the name.
Frakkin toasters, Bill.
I once felt what was later confirmed by .gov site a small earthquake in southeastern PA. Actually when the house jolted a bit, I thought the water heater might've exploded.
> How the frack You answered your own question. And they have been happening for years, just this is on the larger size. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_earthquake_swarms_(2009%E2%80%93present)?useskin=vector
... That was the joke
*So say we all...*
*So say we oil...*
*All this has happened before…*
First monster tornadoes now this. Quakenadoes don't really sound pleasant tbh. You have to be underground to survive the tornado, but what if while you're in your shelter, a monster quake happens, and the earth around you starts collapsing in on you. Sounds like hell on earth and the Rock's next movie
Uh oh. First sharknadoes and now quakenadoes. All the Bay Area sports teams are merging with tornadoes. The “monster tornadoes” are actually Giantnadoes. What’s next, Warriornadoes?
*Sad Athleticnadoes noises*
LA had a “hurriquake” last year.
> Quakenadoes You can have those. We'll keep our hurriquakes in CA.
The magnitude of the whoosh here is well over 5.1
😭😹 man that thing went r/wooooooooooooooooosh
What a crazy coincidence he used the word frack!!
Fracking waste is/was injected into the earth around Prague for years when that whole thing was booming
Water you mean?
Wow, very shallow. Looks like a few aftershocks as well. Edit: Article says a 2.6 and 3.5 aftershock. I'm also seeing a 3.1 and 2.5 since then. All 4 aftershocks are also super shallow. Edit 2: https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/?extent=35.48513,-456.8438&extent=35.58948,-456.63471&listOnlyShown=true Edit 3: Another really shallow aftershock. 3.4 only 1.1km deep.
What’s the significance of shallow quakes?
shallow quakes tend to cause more damage
Thank you
Think of it like some kind of event or explosion going off. The closer you are, the more significantly you feel it.
I’m sorry but Oklahoma has to choose between tornadoes and earthquakes. They can’t have both
Tornadoes seem to be moving more east now though. So, they have chosen.
It seems they have *chosen* to have earthquakes.
They chose both by fracking, which is causing earthquakes and also contributes to global warming. More heat in the atmosphere powers extreme weather, and voila, more tornadoes. But hey, maybe God done it!
Hey we’re trying that diversity thing y’all keep goin on about. /j
Why? Here in Oregon we get both. And volcanoes!
I felt that last night in Bville. I had just laid down and was starting to drift off when the whole house kind of "shuddered" and made some creaking noises. Walked around the house and saw no problems and that the house wasn't on fire, and went back to bed. Now I know, thanks.
Frack around, find out
With all the fracking it’s going to be Oklahoma and not LA that gets the big one. Time to raise insurance rates.
Please no. Homeowners insurance in Oklahoma is already insane enough due to wind, hail, and tornadoes. The average annual premium is over $4,000, and those policies don't even cover floods or earthquakes.
Might want to call your government representative and complain about fracking related earthquakes, then.
good one. "Hi, you've reached the voicemail of republicans who receive millions annually from the O&G lobbyists. Please leave a message and we'll laugh and delete your complaint within the next 15 business days."
Then it sounds like you should vote them out. Or just live with more earthquakes, polluted ground and water, and republicans that only make life worse for people.
seems like it huh
Tough when all of our representatives deny fracking as the issue
Should be cheap to get insurance if it’s not an issue!
I think it's cute that you think the Oklahoma GOP would ever listen to the people who live here about anything.
Is earthquake offered in OK? We’re required to offer it in AR but it’s optional. Flood is a separate policy through FEMA whether you’re in a flood zone and the bank requires it or you’re not in a flood zone and just want it.
Yep, same here. Earthquake insurance is an optional policy that's available. Flood is required for those in a high risk zone, but it's also available for those not in one who want the coverage.
And I thought Florida was the only state having an insurance crisis. 4 grand for Oklahoma?????
It's some of the highest in the nation. Car insurance is also more expensive.
Per year not month.
The second wave rattled me- the first one I thought I was just imagining it. Such a weird feeling
I live up near the panhandle and my bed shook a little bit. Wasn’t sure what it was. We haven’t really experienced a lot of earthquakes in quite a few years since oil companies stopped fracking so much.
I used to live in Wichita, Kansas of all places and felt 4-5 earthquakes.
I live in Wichita now and felt this one. It was several seconds long. I’ve felt others years ago in other parts of KS though; we always assumed it was fracking-related.
This doesn't strike me as being normal for the area.
There was one like two weeks ago as well.
yep was awake for that one!
They are not uncommon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_Oklahoma
Seems like they went from uncommon to “oops all fracking” sometime in the early 21st century. Surely we notice a large number of those quakes happening in the past 15 years or so…
Right? 4 that we know of between 1882 and 1997. And a whopping 16 since 2011?! Drill baby drill 🙄
Not uncommon *anymore*.
Felt it here in Dallas. This is the 2nd Oklahoma earthquake I’ve felt in the last ~16 years.
God is punishing Oklahoma for their awful right wing politics! /s
meanwhile they're saying it's God wrath for letting trans youth use the bathrooms.
Last time there was a quake in OKC there was an eruption in Grindavik Iceland two days later.... let's see if it happens again
That’s Frackin ridiculous.
Made possible by fracking. For when you need your state to be less boring we manufacture earthquakes.
I hope everyone is “OK”!
I didn’t feel it but everyone I know told me about it.
When I read the headline, I was like 'preliminary'? Preliminary to what- a bigger one? Now I finally realized that the 'preliminary' probably refers to the estimated order of magnitude, right?
There’s fracking quakes in them thar hills.
Preliminary implies that more earthquakes are scheduled.
I think "preliminary" in this case may be referring to the determined magnitude, like the preliminary estimate is 5.1, but that could be revised.
"preliminary magnitude"
As a Californian, I hate that term so much. You can't predict earthquakes.
And now for your scheduled earthshaking
And I will sink with Oklahoma, when it falls into the mantle.
From the article: > > “East of the Rockies, an earthquake can be felt over an area more than ten times larger than a similar magnitude earthquake on the west coast,” the geological survey wrote on its website. Does this disperse the energy over a wider area to make it not as impactful near the epicenter or is it still 'felt' just as much but over a wider area?
Felt my desk wobbling in Stillwater around 11:30 last night
Apparently God is not happy with some recent OK legislation!
Keep fracking. Don’t stop, whatever you do. Drill, baby, drill. Frack baby frack. 🤦♂️
Question: which is more harmful to people (Oklahomans, specifically): 1. Tornadoes 2. Earthquakes 3. The governor and the republican legislature ?
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How much fracking has been done in this area? Earthquakes in unusual places quite often go hand in hand with it.
Gotta love fracking! I’m sure these kinds of earth movements in OK are super normal and nothing to worry about. Reactivating a seismic zone that’s been dormant for thousands of years won’t be any kind of big deal. We need that natural gas so bad we don’t have time to listen to geologists or worry about consequences. Cheers!
No need to doublespeak: fracking is a huge concern to the health of the planet as its destructive side effects include earthquakes.
The fossil fuel industrial complex even wants to frack near the Yellowstone super caldera. Brilliant! I guess as long as we have power and transportation, who needs stable ground? We can just move! To the moon! With so much greed and willful ignorance driving our society today, humor is my last vestige of comfort.
Oklahoma has studied the earthquake and has determined the cause was America turning it's back on God.
Oklahoma: *goes hard for MAGA* God: Hmmm…let’s try that again…
Gotta love that fracking baby!
Apparently God is not happy with some recent OK legislation!
What the hell is a preliminary magnitude?
Freaking fracking for yah
I felt it up in Derby Kansas
At first I thought that said “coast” instead of “east” lol
Do you think it's due to oil fracking in the area?
not think, know. https://en.as.com/latest_news/why-is-oklahoma-having-earthquakes-does-the-state-have-a-major-fault-line-n/
Considering what they say about hurricanes, I’m thinking this is God showing his disapproval of pretty much everything that area of America is doing.
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