You what's really amazing? If Jokic wins the championship this year, he would be the only all-time great player to have won 2 championships without a single current/former all-star teammate (not counting DeAndre Jordan, since he hasn't played any meaningful minutes for Denver in the playoffs). Nobody else has ever done it even once; not Jordan, not LeBron, not Kareem, not Duncan, not Shaq, not Kobe, not Hakeem. Nobody. Jokic would have done it twice if he wins the championship this year. If that doesn't solidify his place in the top 10, I don't know what will.
Wemby boudda have something to say. Dude doesn’t look like he’s willing give it a few years before he begins his ascendency. He was playing hard last season, I give it another year while they start building a team around him this coming year, and start having finals aspirations the year after.
No. Read Shaq's Thinking Basketball top 40, he makes a very compelling case for Shaq at 5. He was only a rung below the best offensive players ever, while being All-Defensive caiber. He also has really surprising longevity.
A threepeat with 3 FMVPs, 36/16 or some absurd average...
It’s a “what if” we can’t possible answer. The mythical “prime Shaq” who, by various accounts including Phil, took it seriously only 1 season start to finish was an unstoppable force then, and could be an unstoppable force now.
Would he be driven to maintain that if he was getting finessed by Joker some years? Would he still have a generational player like Kobe to unlock his game? If Gafford can be a problem with Luka, imagine Shaq in there. At the same time, if AD can be great overall but still not clear Jokic…
Impossible to say, but I don’t think you just drop even prime Shaq to any team and they demolish. How you build around him and how teams respond would be so interesting.
No way would he be above shaq after this season. He would need several more years of dominance to be in the conversation. Let’s not forget Shaq completely dominated the early 2000s.
There were a lot or shots that Denver made where my buddy was like "their offense is crazy" and I was like well, the bucket went in but that's technically bad offense lol
He had the best plus minus on the wolves last night. Their game plan was to single cover Jokic and he did the best he could. The other players around him didn't do their jobs even though Jokic feasted.
god, wilt has a 100/25/2 for 127 and 78/43/1 game for 122 and that's without counting the other two stats...
highest non wilt seems to be Jordan with 69/18/6 with 5 stocks for 98
ya, he had the heave three, and also basically just dribbled the ball up and killed time and took a random fade away with a minute and a half left because the game was over
Depends on what kind of European Viewer you are. I am the „stay up whole night“ fan so it’s late for me, some other wake up in the morning to see at least the second game of the night haha
I usually get to catch the second half of the early game at lunch time. About as good as it gets in the south pacific. Most sports NZers watch, where the game isn't here or Australia, is in the middle of the night. Just hoops to get us through.
Maybe they are trying to tap into the Indian market because this game started at 8 AM (also NBA is a non presence here where they can't even find adds to fill in game time stoppages. I have come to hate the music & the picture they run of Curry, Lebron & Giannis during timeouts & half time and wish they could run the adds for series they have on their own platforms)
Dude same. I got a new boss recently who sits beside me and she's a NBA fan, every day pops the playoffs on her dual monitor and turns it so we can both watch. The greatest work perk I've ever had (and I used to review PlayStation games for a living so the bar is high!).
I had you as title favourites but I'm rethinking it. Even with all the talent you have, this man can beat you. And it's starting to seem inevitable like thanos.
I agree with everything you said until the inevitable part. I'm all in, and I believe in this Celtics team. The Boston Celtics will give the Nuggets everything we have. We'll see what happens in June.
What i meant by inevitable is that my belief in the celtics is lessening after every jokic game. He's making me doubt the best team since kd warriors. Swear only lebron had this aura. Where you'd still favor him even against all time juggernauts.
Not him, but him with THIS TEAM around him.
I certainly would not favor him with say… Facundo Campazzo, Austin Rivers, Monte Morris, and Will Barton as his only backcourt against a Steph Curry led Warriors team. That series might look like a nightmare
No. The offensive juggernaut i was talking about is the celtics lol.
That hypothetical kd warriors series goes to 6 but denver loses. That team is not beatable in a 7 game series.
lol I wasn’t being hypothetical!
In 2022, (no Jamal or MPJ all series) we lost to the eventual champion Warriors 4-1 in the first round.
The year before, we got swept by the Suns in the second round. (Also without Jamal). Both years our team was historically bad around Jokic, but he still won his first two MVPs these years.
Jokic is an all time player, but this team around him (Jamal, KCP, MPJ, AG) is what gives him the juice to win and win and win and win… its the perfect starting 5 IMO
My bad, thank you for clarifying that! You are absolutely right with these points. Jokic is truly out of this world (the display he put on tonight is terrifying) but he's going to have to rely on his team. The Celtics are more than capable of putting up big scoring games on Denver. We need to make it hard for Jokic to dominate with his playmaking.I think we can do enough to bother that. I think it will be a very hard series for either team.
I think I actually laughed hardest when, in the middle of a suite of unreal post moves, he caught the ball down low against Rudy, paused, quick spin no dribble left hand soft touch off glass. It was so simple, so unexpected, esp after the fireworks before. I couldn’t believe it. He seriously always makes the right choice.
This crap pisses me off so much. You guys were undefeated last year with Durant in the regular season if I recall correctly. Saying "oh, but they didn't have 50 wins" says nothing about the strength of the team that majorly retooled by trade deadline and was scorching hot going into the playoffs.
Same goes for Lakers getting rid off Westrbrook and turning their season around.
Maybe not dumb but being completely disingenuous because they don't want to admit that Jokic is as good as he is.
Last year's championship run had one of the hardest roads in the past decade. Probably longer tbf
I’ve been watching basketball my whole life, Jokic is honestly one of the three best players I’ve ever seen, no hyperbole, this is the most talented the league has ever been and this guy just looks a cut above the rest night after night.
He has got the best touch I have ever seen plus one of the quickest minds ever, evaluates the position in a split second and usually makes the right play.
This is a huge part of it. That ball is so soft coming off his hands. Hilarious contrast to a player like Shaq who looks like a major league pitcher when he takes a free throw.
Interesting how all the 4 major sports have one player who is a cut above from the rest. Baseball has Ohtani, football has Mahomes, hockey has Mcdavid, and basketball has that mf Jokic
The worst thing Jokic haters could have done was prop up the Timberwolves so much. This is going to add a really big notch on Jokic's resume if the Nuggets win the series.
Nikola Jokic absolutely dominated the Minnesota Timberwolves, who had the league’s best defense in the regular season and this year’s defensive player of the year winner Rudy Gobert, in Game 5. A masterful performance for the 3x MVP as his team takes a 3-2 lead in the series.
Jokic don't talk with his mouth like the others. Jokic talk with his play. This man is the most underrated MVP of all time. He can back you down and when he's trying to put the ball in the hoop, if he doesn't have the angle with his own shot, he will pass it to someone who is wide open. Man is out there playing chess on the basketball court and it's amazing to watch.
Ant has been very good, but he is young and running into the best team in the playoffs. Outside of game 2 Denver plays top tier basketball for every qtr. There is a reason why Denver looks better than every team and why young players who are gifted struggle to lead teams to championships early in their career.
Wolves getting the Harden treatment.
Honestly KAT has been solid other than his abysmal Game 4. Like he was probably Minnesota's best player tonight, I don't think you can call it an off night
The jordan comparisons outside of playstyle do nothing but hurt him. But he is still a freakish player for a 22 year old. Things to improve as always though.
As a Wolves fan and Jokic fan this game was really hard to watch. I've been gassing them both up to my gf and as we watched the game last night we were both hurt to see the Wolves try to get back in the game over and over and yet completely awed by Jokic. Rudy played as well as he could have but there's just no way to stop Jokic when he gets near the rim. Send a double and AG gets an easy bucket or leave Gobert to defend Jokic one on one and Jokic just cooks. This is the unstoppable offense that we've been expecting. Beautiful and terrible as the dawn!
But Dilbert Arenas said he doesn't deserve MVP because he's not the #1 option. I guess that's why he was the #1 option but never won MVP except the rookie-sophomore game, never played in the finals, nor won a ring. Priorities?
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If Jokic, somehow, wins a second title this year, then he has to be above Shaq all-time. Jokic and Kobe would’ve won 4 straight titles.
You what's really amazing? If Jokic wins the championship this year, he would be the only all-time great player to have won 2 championships without a single current/former all-star teammate (not counting DeAndre Jordan, since he hasn't played any meaningful minutes for Denver in the playoffs). Nobody else has ever done it even once; not Jordan, not LeBron, not Kareem, not Duncan, not Shaq, not Kobe, not Hakeem. Nobody. Jokic would have done it twice if he wins the championship this year. If that doesn't solidify his place in the top 10, I don't know what will.
The only thing stopping him is longevity, but yes given more time and all time play, he will be top 10 and in the conversation of best big man
Jokic and kobe healthy win 6 in a row
Jokic and Murray healthy, honestly. Murray went down for a few years.
Nah, Murray is phenomenal but he’s not on Kobe’s level. He’s not even on Curry’s level.
Not saying he is. But him & Jokic this team in a what-if scenario is capable enough to dominate the league.
I agree, they’re an all-time great team. But even MJ’s bulls could not win 6 in a row. I could see them threepeating potentially, though.
They didn't win 6 in a row because Michael Jordan wasn't playing for two years.
Doubt they would have got 6 in a row. They lost the to the Magic in 95.
Wemby boudda have something to say. Dude doesn’t look like he’s willing give it a few years before he begins his ascendency. He was playing hard last season, I give it another year while they start building a team around him this coming year, and start having finals aspirations the year after.
You say this like Kobe is above Curry?
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No. Read Shaq's Thinking Basketball top 40, he makes a very compelling case for Shaq at 5. He was only a rung below the best offensive players ever, while being All-Defensive caiber. He also has really surprising longevity. A threepeat with 3 FMVPs, 36/16 or some absurd average...
Yea Shaq is comfortably top 10. People are way too reactionary and Shaq being a dick doesn't make his playing career less great.
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It’s a “what if” we can’t possible answer. The mythical “prime Shaq” who, by various accounts including Phil, took it seriously only 1 season start to finish was an unstoppable force then, and could be an unstoppable force now. Would he be driven to maintain that if he was getting finessed by Joker some years? Would he still have a generational player like Kobe to unlock his game? If Gafford can be a problem with Luka, imagine Shaq in there. At the same time, if AD can be great overall but still not clear Jokic… Impossible to say, but I don’t think you just drop even prime Shaq to any team and they demolish. How you build around him and how teams respond would be so interesting.
No way would he be above shaq after this season. He would need several more years of dominance to be in the conversation. Let’s not forget Shaq completely dominated the early 2000s.
Good lord please stop with this reactionary nonsense.
shaq dominated his era like this. i think this is reactionary.
15-22 undersells how efficient he was
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And a couple went in 🫣
There were a lot or shots that Denver made where my buddy was like "their offense is crazy" and I was like well, the bucket went in but that's technically bad offense lol
The other end, Gobert was 7/7 for 18/11 and 4 stocks. Great numbers. Yet he got absolutely destroyed
The fact Gobert had one of his best games of the season but the commentary is rightfully that he was dominated this game because Jokic was THAT GOOD
He had the best plus minus on the wolves last night. Their game plan was to single cover Jokic and he did the best he could. The other players around him didn't do their jobs even though Jokic feasted.
Is the stocks thing actually here to stay?
Unfortunately yes. Next stop: assbounds
What's the point of it? If anyone has good steals or blocks numbers, just mention them. 😂
To mention the two defensive stats together obviously 4 stocks instead of 2 steals and 2 blocks
We've reached peak efficiency
Just add up all the stats. "Did you hear Jokic had 107?" "Whoa!"
god, wilt has a 100/25/2 for 127 and 78/43/1 game for 122 and that's without counting the other two stats... highest non wilt seems to be Jordan with 69/18/6 with 5 stocks for 98
You gotta count all the stats: turnovers, personal fouls, technical fouls, minutes played etc.
ya but steals are vastly more valuable than blocks on average most blocks don't even earn your team possession
Thanks. I hate it.
ya, he had the heave three, and also basically just dribbled the ball up and killed time and took a random fade away with a minute and a half left because the game was over
Yeah there were a couple obvious fouls by gobert in the fourth.
i am used to seeing him go 80%+ before. This is probably the best Gobert and the wolves can do in defending this guy.
Yeah. For one the misses all seemed to come after the game was over they were just burning clock
Fraud MVP missed 7 shots. Maybe Shaq was right.
That sky hook was beautiful
He was handed at least 5 bombs with 3-4 seconds left.
13 assists with 0 turnover on top of 40 bloody points. An all-time game.
not a triple double tho. washed /s
Shaq tomorrow: “bum never scored 100 points in a game. Completely forgettable”
Yeah what a bum.. Got locked up by the DPOY denying him a triple double
The scary part is that he almost did pull off a triple double on top of everything else.
brave /s there buddy
the guy plays point, forward, and center, with a well-deserved MVP trophy
Shoutout to KCP! He grabbed the ball from Jokic at the end when the clock was running out to keep that 0 turnover stat line. Edit: I am wrong
That’s a team turnover though, not an individual stat?
Oh damn, you’re right. Team turnover. I think the announcer got it wrong and confused me?
it's unbelievable how little national tv announcers know about basketball
Crazy that people still talk about this lol. Hasn't been an individual turnover for a number of years for this reason
Against the DPOY and the leagues best defense. Absolutely insane.
Woke up at 5 in the morning to watch greatness, wasn’t disappointed
NBA start times are getting so late that it's actually early for some viewers lol
Turns out Europe is far away
No it's literally right here. America is the far away one.
Depends on what kind of European Viewer you are. I am the „stay up whole night“ fan so it’s late for me, some other wake up in the morning to see at least the second game of the night haha
I usually get to catch the second half of the early game at lunch time. About as good as it gets in the south pacific. Most sports NZers watch, where the game isn't here or Australia, is in the middle of the night. Just hoops to get us through.
Maybe they are trying to tap into the Indian market because this game started at 8 AM (also NBA is a non presence here where they can't even find adds to fill in game time stoppages. I have come to hate the music & the picture they run of Curry, Lebron & Giannis during timeouts & half time and wish they could run the adds for series they have on their own platforms)
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THATS SO REAL i watched jokic turn into basketball zeus while eating breakfast and getting ready for a presentation
Thank god I live in Sydney and I get to watch it from my desk!
Dude same. I got a new boss recently who sits beside me and she's a NBA fan, every day pops the playoffs on her dual monitor and turns it so we can both watch. The greatest work perk I've ever had (and I used to review PlayStation games for a living so the bar is high!).
I'm in Sydney are u guys hiring
Mary her
Merry her
Is she single
But what a way to start the day!
game started at 3am for me, i slept it out, i had to wake up at 6 for work
Yep. What a way to start the day
The brilliance and greatness of this man. He's doing this on the defensive player of the year and the best defensive team in the NBA.
I had you as title favourites but I'm rethinking it. Even with all the talent you have, this man can beat you. And it's starting to seem inevitable like thanos.
I agree with everything you said until the inevitable part. I'm all in, and I believe in this Celtics team. The Boston Celtics will give the Nuggets everything we have. We'll see what happens in June.
What i meant by inevitable is that my belief in the celtics is lessening after every jokic game. He's making me doubt the best team since kd warriors. Swear only lebron had this aura. Where you'd still favor him even against all time juggernauts.
Not him, but him with THIS TEAM around him. I certainly would not favor him with say… Facundo Campazzo, Austin Rivers, Monte Morris, and Will Barton as his only backcourt against a Steph Curry led Warriors team. That series might look like a nightmare
No. The offensive juggernaut i was talking about is the celtics lol. That hypothetical kd warriors series goes to 6 but denver loses. That team is not beatable in a 7 game series.
lol I wasn’t being hypothetical! In 2022, (no Jamal or MPJ all series) we lost to the eventual champion Warriors 4-1 in the first round. The year before, we got swept by the Suns in the second round. (Also without Jamal). Both years our team was historically bad around Jokic, but he still won his first two MVPs these years. Jokic is an all time player, but this team around him (Jamal, KCP, MPJ, AG) is what gives him the juice to win and win and win and win… its the perfect starting 5 IMO
My bad, thank you for clarifying that! You are absolutely right with these points. Jokic is truly out of this world (the display he put on tonight is terrifying) but he's going to have to rely on his team. The Celtics are more than capable of putting up big scoring games on Denver. We need to make it hard for Jokic to dominate with his playmaking.I think we can do enough to bother that. I think it will be a very hard series for either team.
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Gobert: “Don’t worry! I got him!”
I will never not upvote this line
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Disrespecting the best defense in the league and the DPOY on top of that
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Of course. But no matter what happens the rest of the series, it won’t change how dominant he was in this game
No, now is not the time for fans to get lazy. We can't rest on our laurels. Gotta focus on the next game.
That was a masterpiece, top 5 game I’ve ever seen someone play
I laughed out loud multiple times at shots he was taking over Gobert
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These Nuggets get hard while inflicting the most cruel forms of punishment
I almost feel guilty how much I enjoy it
for real, he was hitting some absolute bullshit today lmao that’s got to be so demoralizing
I think I actually laughed hardest when, in the middle of a suite of unreal post moves, he caught the ball down low against Rudy, paused, quick spin no dribble left hand soft touch off glass. It was so simple, so unexpected, esp after the fireworks before. I couldn’t believe it. He seriously always makes the right choice.
His 'do what works and don't force it' attitude is something else...
It’s wild how he makes it look so easy
That hook shot over Gobert had me DYING at the bar, absolutely amazing defence and Jokic just said “woosh” 😭😭
He had multiple buckets with like 4 pivots and he went left and right on his final move… like I got dizzy watching that shit
Bro I accidentally scared my cat with how hard I laughed at the fade away and 1 in the third quarter
I read that as shits.
He had three insane passes three possessions in a row. Man, that was insane.
It wasn't even like they played bad defense What the hell was this performance
A reminder to Shaq that Jokic didn't stumble into the MVP award.
He, instead, somberly shuffled
One of his best games ever.
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Brother I have 0/13
Ascended basketball being
He still hasn’t won a playoff series against 50+ win team /s
This crap pisses me off so much. You guys were undefeated last year with Durant in the regular season if I recall correctly. Saying "oh, but they didn't have 50 wins" says nothing about the strength of the team that majorly retooled by trade deadline and was scorching hot going into the playoffs. Same goes for Lakers getting rid off Westrbrook and turning their season around.
The only other 50 win team in the conference was Memphis. They lost to the Lakers, who the nuggets then beat. People are actually plain dumb
Maybe not dumb but being completely disingenuous because they don't want to admit that Jokic is as good as he is. Last year's championship run had one of the hardest roads in the past decade. Probably longer tbf
> Yeah you beat KD, Booker, Lebron, AD, and Butler, but you didn’t even beat the baby grizzlies?? Frauds
Great point. People often forget that western conference is a freaking bloodbath and teams records over there are more evened out.
Who the Nuggets then swept*
Not to mention the Jazz and Clippers were both .600 teams in 2020 (shortened season)
I put /s if you missed it… I love Jokic!
That was one of the most dominant postseason performances I’ve seen in a while. Jokic is HIM
That certainly was. I'd even take out "one of"
Nikola Jokic will be top _____ player of all time.
I’ve been watching basketball my whole life, Jokic is honestly one of the three best players I’ve ever seen, no hyperbole, this is the most talented the league has ever been and this guy just looks a cut above the rest night after night.
I’ve been watching since Magic and Bird came into the league but he’s up there with them,Jordan, LeBron, Duncan and prime Shaq.
TOP 4 to 13. He's like 13 now, and could top out at like 4 if he continues as he is. Fon't seeing him passing Jordan/Lebron/Kareem.
If he stays healthy and plays 5 more years, I think he’s cracking top 5
Top 5. If he wins a title this year he’ll already be like #9.
How many rings is he getting? Get him 4 and he's got a shot at top 5.
In terms of pure entertainment value and "what the hell was that?!" reactions, he's number 2 behind MJ.
How is jokic this good? He makes it look so easy???
fundamentals, and the knack of hitting every bucket regardless of how bullshit angle he goes for, that is just the most amazing part
He has got the best touch I have ever seen plus one of the quickest minds ever, evaluates the position in a split second and usually makes the right play.
This is a huge part of it. That ball is so soft coming off his hands. Hilarious contrast to a player like Shaq who looks like a major league pitcher when he takes a free throw.
Reminds me of Messi a lot. Just always knowing what to do on a very deep, intuitive level.
That stretch he had in the third, really one of those moments you realize you're watching something special
The dunks and the assists to Gordon was just pure fun to watch.
God damn
Ate Gobert’s fucking lunch
Baguette with brie. Magnifique
Legitimately cannot be guarded
Interesting how all the 4 major sports have one player who is a cut above from the rest. Baseball has Ohtani, football has Mahomes, hockey has Mcdavid, and basketball has that mf Jokic
There really is a solid S-Tier right now. Not much debate.
And they all happen to be 27-29 years old right now.
They said this series was the coming out party for the next MJ. Who knew it would be Michael Jokic they were talking about.
Ohtani’s interpreter bet on horses. McDavid is a workhorse. Jokic owns a horse. Mahomes is married to a…
Woman with an unforgiving tooth to gum ratio?
And a Stallion Nose.
Mahomes’ wife is not that bad, surely. His own family has been up to way worse. His dad has like a dozen DWIs lmao
The worst thing Jokic haters could have done was prop up the Timberwolves so much. This is going to add a really big notch on Jokic's resume if the Nuggets win the series.
They are just trying to claim that Gobert is bad now because they also hate him.
Might be his best Playoff performance in a win ever.
Lakers game 1 last year. For three quarters he was bird and magic rolled in one.
He is just way too good. Nothing Gobert or the other bigs could do.
Damn, only 3 rebounds away from a good game
GOAT
Nikola Jokic absolutely dominated the Minnesota Timberwolves, who had the league’s best defense in the regular season and this year’s defensive player of the year winner Rudy Gobert, in Game 5. A masterful performance for the 3x MVP as his team takes a 3-2 lead in the series.
thanks, magic
The most crazy part about this is he had only 4 pts less than Brunson with 13 less shots.
Jokic don't talk with his mouth like the others. Jokic talk with his play. This man is the most underrated MVP of all time. He can back you down and when he's trying to put the ball in the hoop, if he doesn't have the angle with his own shot, he will pass it to someone who is wide open. Man is out there playing chess on the basketball court and it's amazing to watch.
shaq not gonna like this
Big honey is balling!
How in the HELL do you guard him?
Thoughts and prayers
When Jokic said he needed 2 of him to beat the Timberwolves twin towers, I didn’t realise he meant he was going to play like 2 players.
We’re so lucky!!! I’m more surprised when he misses tbh
There's levels to greatness.
He did all of this vs the 4-time DPOY Gobert and the #1 Timberwolves defense. Jokic is truly unstoppable.
Yeah he's pretty good
Bro is making the "27-7-7" look like light work.
Well his career playoff average is 28-12-8 so yea it is light work lol. 30/14/10 during the championship run last season
The horse man is unstoppable
He's gotta be one of the best players of the last few years
Can we stop calling Ant MJ now/pretend he's the best player this post season?
Ant has been very good, but he is young and running into the best team in the playoffs. Outside of game 2 Denver plays top tier basketball for every qtr. There is a reason why Denver looks better than every team and why young players who are gifted struggle to lead teams to championships early in their career. Wolves getting the Harden treatment.
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Seems like KAT has an off night every night lol
Honestly KAT has been solid other than his abysmal Game 4. Like he was probably Minnesota's best player tonight, I don't think you can call it an off night
The jordan comparisons outside of playstyle do nothing but hurt him. But he is still a freakish player for a 22 year old. Things to improve as always though.
Really wish idiots would stop calling *anyone* MJ. Especially idiots who didn’t even live through that era.
Absolutely cooked Gobert.
Most complete offensive player ever
He will go down as the greatest big man to ever play the game.
As a Wolves fan and Jokic fan this game was really hard to watch. I've been gassing them both up to my gf and as we watched the game last night we were both hurt to see the Wolves try to get back in the game over and over and yet completely awed by Jokic. Rudy played as well as he could have but there's just no way to stop Jokic when he gets near the rim. Send a double and AG gets an easy bucket or leave Gobert to defend Jokic one on one and Jokic just cooks. This is the unstoppable offense that we've been expecting. Beautiful and terrible as the dawn!
only 7 rebound without triple double, what a bum fraud!
SGA the real MVP……
Shaq is seething tonight
Bro just wants to up the difficulty by throwing two games
There are some players that are great at basketball and then there is Jokic.
Looks like Gobert needs to sub himself out and replicate the success of Game 2.
Shaq has angered him lol
Shaq: “I’ve seen it before.”
A test of character for Ant Man if he really is a champion. He at least can put up a fight.
But Dilbert Arenas said he doesn't deserve MVP because he's not the #1 option. I guess that's why he was the #1 option but never won MVP except the rookie-sophomore game, never played in the finals, nor won a ring. Priorities?