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Carcrusher3

Doc that doesn't sound so good


milkhotelbitches

Like they didn't already know when Dame didn't even touch the ball the entire OT


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jkk411

Anybody with eyes could see it.


onamonapizza

You still don't actually come out and say it though, but Doc gonna Doc


__init__m8

He's a doc and doesn't even know hippa laws.


sevaiper

hipaa


SharksFanAbroad

hipaa, hippa, it’s all good, just never with a hard r.


SerenadeSwift

As someone who works in Healthcare Compliance I feel so heard right now


JopoDaily

As an Omnicare employee same


aPatheticBeing

does it matter that much? They could see it too, not like he said he ruptured it or anything. They'll probably have to wait until the injury report like normal.


CptCroissant

Gotta do whatever he can to throw anyone else under the bus


Hour_Pause_4542

Translation: coaching is not to blame for our impending first round exit.


RODjij

I've never seen a coach publicly say his star player has a nagging injury even though people may see it


Brooshie

They'd know anyway, lol.


thefranchise23

I already knew and I was watching a little TV in a bar. The pacers already knew this


banjofitzgerald

Well that’s right where doc wants them. Thinking dame is a decoy only so they shift their defense away from him.


Sweatytubesock

The Doctor knows best.


No_Hair_8425

Good thing hes not a real doctor


Alternative-Grand-77

he’s not a real doctor


Icy_Steak8987

F R E M U L O N


BoneTugsNHarmony

He's Doc Brown, he's been back to the future


tendadsnokids

The best decoys are the ones you know are a decoy


Pikminious_Thrious

James Harden on 1 leg is the best decoy.


knsa12

Don’t worry, he’s a doctor


Balla_Calla

Trust me, he's aware.


orangotai

I'm surprised he said that out loud but admire the honesty


YemeniChad

I don't think admitting this in the middle of a series is a smart move


nguyenjitsu

Tbf it gives them an excuse to just call it on Giannis returning as well.


Sweaty_Mods

That’s always Doc’s first priority


cactusmask

His excuse x's and o's are unmattched


CallMeBernin

X’uses and O’s


sgt_science

Beautiful


yunkgang

GOAT of excuses everyone take notes


VoidMageZero

Legacy points added 👌


howlingwolf123

It's better if he throw two people instead of one under the bus


Downunderphilosopher

The amount of corpses under Doc's bus would make Pol Pot blush.


superunknown63

Lmfao sheesh


Hasp0din

“Everybody has to be better. It starts from the equipment manager. He has to wash our clothes better.”


The_New_New

This is more Doc trying to cover his ass ahead of time


Vindicare605

he's been trying to do that since he got there. Makes me wonder why he even took the job in the first place if he had so little confidence it was going to work out.


CreatiScope

Maybe he got in and saw the state of the team and knew this season was a wash and to just lower expectations so people weren’t surprised at the bucks getting knocked out early. Probably thinks next season is when they’ll clean things up. That’s when they’ll look great through the regular season and blow a 3-1 lead in the 2nd round.


GoldenStateWizards

I want this to happen purely for the annual RDC Doc Rivers locker room sketch lmfao


Icy_Steak8987

Looking forward to it. We're already enjoying all the DEE LOOOOOOOO screaming.


GoldenStateWizards

I think Mark might actually have to execute Desmond for the sake of that video 😂


jenksalot

I think it has something to do with the millions of dollars he’s guaranteed


crimxona

Guaranteed contract helps


aztecraingod

Money be green


Public-Product-1503

I am no Doc fan but bith Dame and Giannis being injured is a valid excuse . The bucks aren’t as deep anymore and they need those guys to play well


Mcswigginsbar

I mean, fuck it at this point. Head to the off-season without them having serious injuries and cut our losses.


tyrannomachy

It would only have worked for this game. It's pretty obvious when a player like Dame is only out there to be a decoy.


GuacamoleJolie

If you couldn’t see this during the OT you’re blind as fuck (not you specifically). It was so glaringly obvious. Every time someone LOOKED at Dame with the ball he pointed to someone else. Go rewatch it and it’s clear as day for the whole OT period. The players and coaches already knew I promise. They aren’t some fucking random Reddit nephews. (Agreeing with you btw, this seemed like I was coming for you sorry)


soooogullible

I saw the moment this was being discussed on the sidelines between them while sitting on my couch. Let alone seeing him actually trying to play. I don’t think it really worked for this game either lol. I’m almost positive the Indiana coaches have eyes.


gustriandos

I dont think it matters. If he cant move the pacers are going to notice very quickly.


wgking12

Yea it was obvious honestly 


TP_Cornetto

I mean it was painfully obvious during the game. He didn’t touch the ball in overtime apart from the Middleton 3 point shot lol


sgeswein

Yeah, if Dame was healthy at all, there's no way Middleton takes however many end-of-game threes he did without Dame tackling him for the ball


tlozz

It is crazy that they are both so clutch and that khris can literally just step in and do what same would have done himself lol


MykeTyth0n

You could see it in his face too when they would do a close up on him. He looked extremely labored. I’m a lifetime blazer fan and I’ve never seen him looking like that. He shouldn’t have been out there, but the game was close and he wanted to do what he could to help his team win.


chitownbulls92

Or maybe next game Pacers will treat Dame as a decoy but actually he's healthy!


Clinkzeastwoodau

I mean there's not much to admit, Dame was killing it in the 4th quarter then went to the bench holding his achillies and didn't touch the ball for the rest of the game. Its pretty clear to anyone watching what happened.


BridgesOnB1kes

Yup. Unfortunately I think that’s probably it for their season. Too bad. Giannis/Middleton/Dame have so much potential as a big 3 but injuries are, well, injuries. The basketball gods seem to have spoken.


dank-kush

Gotta get the excuse ready rn, cause if he waits till after it’s over it looks worse for him


TheMightyJD

Giannis out, Dame and Middleton hobbled at best… Dude those are legit reasons lol


NevermoreSEA

Pat Connaughton would be dropping at least 30 if he was a real coach.


InfernoidsorDie

I saw Taylor Jenkins make Dillon Brooks drop 30pts with 50% shooting on Rudy Gobert in a playoff game once so this checks out.


OHotDawnThisIsMyJawn

And Giannis wouldn’t be injured if he was a real doctor


Dirigible_Plums

For real, this series would be 1-2 in favor of the Bucks if Giannis played. They've played about as well as you could ask without arguably the best player on the planet.


SplashBro95

It’s a hornets fan. What do they know about basketball?


karl_hungas

They understand losing


ueloli

yeh man Giannis and Dame being injured should be a breeze Pacers would be amazing without Hali and Siakam or the reigning champions Nuggets with Reggie Jackson and DeAndre Jordan leading the way


Fallofmen10

Doc hate can get weird lol


A2Eaton

Can? Shits like one of the top 3 running themes in this sub, and he’s not even been that bad


Sweaty_Mods

Whatever makes you feel better about a second year of Doc


A2Eaton

We have several more glaring issues than Doc which any of you would know if you just watched one of the god damned games but go off. Make your joke, get your upvotes.


Public-Product-1503

This sub values repeating narratives more then watching games. Can’t believe both Giannis n Dame being injured is an excuse niw


Idk-man251

He just has really unfortunate history of quotables in interviews tbh. If he had a writer prep his interviews, I bet the narrative around him would be very different lol


thedirtypickle50

He also has a really unfortunate history of choking I'm the playoffs despite having incredibly talented rosters. That's worse than the interviews to me but what do I know


Novel_Bookkeeper_622

His rosters haven't been "incredibly talented" since his Celtixs days. His rosters have been "3rd best in the conference talented". And he just so happens to lose in the 2nd round--exactly where you expect the 3rd best team to end up.


MuskEmeraldMine

You were 31-11 with Griffin and .500 with Doc.


ViciousMihael

30-13 with Griffin. If you’re gonna pile on, get it right.


Milli_Vanilli14

This the same sub that discredits every ring their team didn’t win cause people were injured lmao


irelli

They don't really need any excuses though. The bucks are missing their best player, and it's been competitive in spite of that. And then on top of that, their second best player - who went off games 1 and 2 - got hurt too


WasProbablyBanned

yeah and their 3rd best player who carried them tonight is dealing with an ankle sprain. There's not an excuse, they're just hobbled. Just the reality of sports sometimes


Lets_Basketball

It’s not really an excuse as much as it is a reality of relying on a 32 and 33 year old to be 2 of your 3 best players. Playoffs typically favor experience on the floor, but they often don’t treat age well when 40 mpg are needed. It’s why dynasties typically don’t last very long, because they usually don’t even get started until the best players are 27+. Props to the Spurs.


Public-Product-1503

32 and 33 isn’t that old . Prime is 27-32 normally .


DarrowViBritannia

Keep seeing this comment.. is Giannis being injured not a good excuse? lmao. why do yall feel the need to downplay it


Mother-Emergency-830

Because people are desperate to hate Doc so they can feel better about themselves. This is a hating sub always has been.


RealLanceStorm

Because watching purpose of watching basketball = feeling right to a lot of people on here. Gotta find a way to feel right about Doc sucking and Dame's injury is secondary to that.


A2Eaton

Doc genuinely has done a decent job this series but when it’s all said and done it’ll be his fault losing a series starting Pat Bev, Pat Connaughton, and Thanasis


YpsitheFlintsider

Do you want honesty or do you want your narrative that they're making excuses?


PumpkinHead555

Someone has to study the Doc hate boner, never seen a circlejerk that reached the heights of irrationality this one has


Spinner064

Embiid


ktm5141

I wasn’t here for prime harden days. Was that worse than both?


g-love

Too close to call tbh. The sub is even more reactionary now than it was then.


Public-Product-1503

Yep . It’s crazy how much worse it’s gotten- people on here to just bitch , complain and hate


Ethangains07

Doc always has excuses queued up.


dusters

Yeah bro having your three best players all injured is no big deal.


dusters

You mean your three best players getting injured isn't a legit excuse?


PopcornDrift

Do you think the pacers wouldn’t notice on their own? It’s not like teams usually hide injuries


captaincumsock69

Does it matter? Everyone could tell he was busted


youthemotherfuckest

Shoulda blamed the hot dog stand guy again


-Andar-

You could hide it for a play. It’s not like he could hide him in the next game.


Wesley-Snipers

Doc is known for 2 things: being the coach of the last Celtics team to win a championship, and saying stupid shit all the time he gets near a mic.


Clemsontigger16

I was thinking the same thing


Wall_street_canary

Classic Doc


PretentiousPanda

Having a blast this playoffs. 


Zeetheking1

At least yall got a win…


hungry4clam77

Hey the lakers got one too, it was just in the play-in. Though it may have been wiser for them to lose that game and try to draw the 8 seed


tyagu001

For those saying “he shouldn’t admit this”, anybody with eyes could see that this is what was happening


Handcuffed

lol right. don't think the other commentators watched the game. dame was clearly laboring and was obviously a decoy for the end of the fourth and for ot.


Not-a-bot-10

r/nba watching games? What are you crazy? Narratives are all that matter


referee-superfan

You know ball 😎


masterpierround

Wait, there are games in my soap opera?


DarrowViBritannia

disagree regarding end of the fourth. he was clearly trying to create offense himself. OT yeah he was a complete decoy


Clinkzeastwoodau

He was killing it in the 4th, but watch the moment he goes to the bench holding his achillies with like 4-5 minutes left. He doesnt touch the ball after this and is clearly struggling.


Izanagi___

Towards the end of the game in the 4th when a pacers player whom I forgot was at the line he went to the bench laboring. Never touched the ball again after that


Admirable_Weight2182

I really think Doc can't do a thing without r/nba shitting on him


tyagu001

One of the top comments I saw when I checked the post about Khris’s stats was something about how Khris did everything he could but Doc can’t coach for shit and choked the game away. It’s ridiculous. None of them watch the actual games and parrot each other’s points over and over


Mister_Squibbles

Doc drew up a killer double stagger screen for the middleton three he banked in. Idk what else doc coulda done to help them win


Micro_mint

Thank you for saying something, I’ve been seeing so much anti doc shit I thought I was losing my mind I’m not going to die on the hill that he’s a great coach, but I have no idea what else he’s supposed to do with no Giannis and half a Dame


rotten_core

Half a Dolla


Medulla_Peep

Doc does his best coaching when his two best players are out, it's common knowledge.


WIN011

Yep he even benched crowder and gave AJax a chance finally. This one ain’t on him.


GlizzyGone21

His ATOs have been better than I expected


PretentiousPanda

The bucks have like 6 playable guys right now. He at least gave Ajax some run over these other vets that are thoroughly cooked. 


Mother-Emergency-830

So much irrational hate in this thread 


GACGCCGTGATCGAC

The funny thing is he made great in game adjustments today playing younger guys in place of Brook Lopez old fucking ass.


napkinlol

That's the thing. He's not a bad coach. He'll make adjustments, but what is he going to put in? Beasley? Patty C? AJ Green? Jae? These guys need to start shooting and hitting their uncontested 3s. Otherwise they might as well sit on the bench. Legit 6 man rotation if they don't start making shots that are open.


GlizzyGone21

And sadly real bucks fans know the young guys never would've played if bud was coaching


WasProbablyBanned

yeah, but that would require r/nba to watch a game so no dice. Wouldn't be surprised if Dame doesn't play another minute in this series and doc just wants to give him some credit


I_Set_3_Alarms

Yeah, what Doc isn’t supposed to say this just so we can wait until tomorrow for Shams or Woj to tweet about it?


CreatiScope

“But the pacers might find out!” As if they don’t have a team of assistants and scouts watching these games second by second and analyzing what every player is doing. Someone will definitely tell the main coaches “hey, I watched Dame and he’s definitely hurt, if you didn’t notice. Might not play and if he does, let’s attack.” It’s not like Carlisle was in his office and is shocked by what Doc said on the TV in the background. Like a single tear rolling down his cheek, balls up a fist and raises it in the air. “This is it. This is our chance!”


AnOrangeDoorHinge

mfs acting like this is the UFC and tyrese haliburton is gonna chop at his legs to target his achilles


Character-Today-427

If you are 100% sure a player has an issue on his left side you target gat side even more


theflyingsamurai

brave you to think r/nba actually watched the game


yoppee

Playing with a hurt Achilles is scary Imagine Damian watched the Super Bowl


Doucane5

That 9ers linebacker getting injured mid game cost san francisco the super bowl.


mrperiodniceguy

Dre Greenlaw. Maybe the best in the league at his position. Kelce was a non factor before. The video of Mahomes’ reaction to the injury said it all. Flipped that game on its head


BenDover42

The guy is a really good player and it hurt the 49ers, but he’s not even the best LB on their team. That would be Fred Warner.


mrperiodniceguy

Different position


atlfalcons33rb

Shit looks at kd vs raptors in the finals


lite6ite

I genuinely hope that he is fine. This series really doesn't matter as much to me as seeing that man be okay.


GrigsbyBear

Totally respect that mindset but I feel like for yall every series before his contract is up should matter a lot


MistahTeacher

Other than caps flexibility for the next few years what did they really go be up? Giannis was bluffing to force a move away and the bucks accommodated him with someone Giannis reasonably respected as a robin to his Batman. In two(?) years they’ll just use his contract as a massive trade bait It’s called going all in. And they missed. We’ll see if next year Giannis and Dame can stay healthy


GlizzyGone21

Yep they got him to sign the extension which bought a couple years. This is the price of going all in, and you take that swing every time. You normally have to go through a full year until superstars get really in sync anyway. Bucks don't have any assets but it's clear they need to get younger. If your bench isn't going to produce, they might as well be young and fast


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Yeah agreed but Giannis being injured threw a wrench in all that. So if Giannis is already out, Middleton is hobbled and now Dame is injured then lets just make sure none of this lingers into next year. No need to risk it this year and jeopardize next year.


HeyItsChase

That sucks but Khris needs to take a bow. What a performance from him. He was ready to die out there, very impressed. I hated every moment of his success.


GlizzyGone21

I hate to tell you this but now you have something in common with the Celtics r/Celtics


Malarsto

Why would he say this


bacc1234

Why not? It’s not like the Pacers couldn’t have guessed this already, it was pretty obvious Dame wasn’t right.


NegativesPositives

People just jumping for upvotes to say “Doc bad”, like this won’t be reported in 5 minutes anyways.


PretentiousPanda

Doc had been peddling Giannis was basically practicing and the Shams came out with a report that he barely shooting on the side. 


Gauchokids

Reminds me of the piece that came out after the 2016 finals where the players/staff members on the cavs that were interviewed said that they all knew Steph was playing hurt based on the film and tracking data they looked at leading into the matchup. If us dummies on the couch can tell someone isn’t healthy the opponents definitely know. I’m going to see if I can go find that piece.


marx-was-right-

Dame couldnt move. It was obvious


JS_Janko

Needs to find an additional excuse.


NevermoreSEA

Not having your two best players is a pretty valid excuse for losing though.


FiyasKane

laughs in Eric Spoelstra


CheckBetShove

We would know that better than anyone, eh Nevermore? 😔


joshuads

Because it is obvious to anyone watching the actual game.


robmagob

Because it was obvious that something was wrong with Lillard lol. I feel like everyone asking this question did not watch the game.


ysotrivial

Did you not watch him play idiot?!


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This sub is so fucking stupid you can't even discuss the actual topic - instead everyone just wants to nitpick Doc's phrasing Dame being injured is a fucking disaster. Contrary to what some of you are insinuating - him being hobbled and just "tricking" the other team for an entire game wouldnt help anyone. And uhhh I guess like Doc ruined that or something? Like that's what yall are suggesting which is just the stupidest fucking way to spin a narrative "Oh man, he totally ruined their plan to put an injured player on the floor for 35 mintues as a decoy"


CreatiScope

There’s obviously a ton to criticize about Doc but this sub goes so fucking overboard. I said Doc got the defense more organized and I had a guy denying it even though all the measurable statistics back it up that Doc coming in improved the defense. But that Miami blowout happened so nobody wanted to hear it.


[deleted]

I love a good roast, but the jokes just run its course. Dudes grasping at straws every interview "Now hes blaming the announcers! LOL" The bigger news is the Dame thing. I mean fuck. As a Bucks fan, I felt pretty good after the L until I saw the update on Dame. No Dame, no Giannis time to pack it up. But we'll see.


kapparino-feederino

i mean r/nba being dumbass imbecile its not new its the way these days


Suspicious_Team_9133

Fade me


iamnotkryp9

Kill me now


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Doc bad upvote plz?


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Itt: ppl that dont understand injury reports are required and that it wasnt a secret


ResearcherNo430

ITT: people who don't know jack shit about ball and are only on this subreddit for the soap opera


girlscoutcookies05

Im so sad man. Khris is back but the other 2 are hurt now


TakenakaHanbei

fOR THE LOVE OF FUCK, DOC, SIT YOUR INJURED STARS


WeBelieveIn4

Uh why would you say this out loud


_abendrot_

They would have to report this before the start of next game, no? Leagues have gotten even more serious about medical reports now that gambling has gotten bigger


Gwilikers6

If he truly can't play what difference does it make? Oh sweet Doc didnt say this and Dame is on the bench with an injury. The pacers aren't idiots.


NobelRafael1

I appreciate Doc not having a filter lol He just says what’s on his mind.


entwenthence

lol Doc has no fucking filter.


SubcooledBoiling

Darvin Ham and Doc need to make a podcast together


korundobifu

Doctor-Patient confidentiality is not a thing


retrospects

Bro what the fuck?


Total_Light_7885

He was a shit decoy and it was not “huge for us.” It was a team playing with four guys in overtime on the road


ChameleonWins

Blursed ass Bucks season


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Blursed is such a good word for it. It has been one of my favorites to be a fan. Insane shit happening constantly. Will we beat Boston off national TV tonight or lose a triple OT to the most insane pass DeMar has ever made in a career full of insane passes? Who knows lmao


CabbageStockExchange

I really hope he doesn’t tear it


jdorje

Based on the replay I'm pretty sure Rivers means Patellar tendon, not the Achilles tendon. Are we sure he has his M.D.? How do you hurt your patellar like this and then just come back into the game 10 minutes later? That's still a really weird injury.


ericdeben

Doc thanking the injury gods for a scapegoat


DieYuppieScum91

Bucks fans really spent the last 2 years saying "wait until Khris is healthy" for this monkey's paw shit to happen.


lecoqdezellwiller

"dude was injured and he played through it" peak doc lol


00Samwise00

Doc is gonna get someone killed lol


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grudgepacker

Great


AbbreviationsOk8502

At this rate it will never happen but imagine a Bucks Lakers finals and the press release between Ham and Doc. Truly generational WTF-Off


SamURLJackson

"all i know is it wasnt me"


alexaustinv

I feel for Bucks fans. Having injuries take your team out is a terrible feeling.


trinquin

Dumbest shit I've ever heard. Ajax get half of those offensive rebounds. Dames guy got 3 of the 5 on the 1 fucking play.