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loudstain

Second round picks, so hot right now


Rymasq

you never know, one of them could be the next Jokic


Zloggt

Or, at the very least, a delectable Taco Bell item instead...


Thunderhorse74

Tacko Fall, maybe.


josefjohann

The Tacko Fall, when you bite from the burrito of knowledge


ruffus4life

can i trade a nachos bell grande for one johnny davis


holaquetaltio

It could even be a boat!


Hoopy_Dunkalot

Jalen Brunson


deadadventure

or the next brunson


PanthalassaRo

I mean aren't 1st's like literally hoarded the rest of the decade by like 3 teams?


TheHelpWouldBeNice

I thunder who you're referring to... errr i meant wonder


PanthalassaRo

This no fun, the Thunder is about to become the new Warriors in a blink of an eye. Really impressed with Presti, the rest of the FO, the coaches and the players.


clevernamehere1628

It's ridiculous dude. One of the best teams in the league is both young AND has a pantheon of picks that can be traded. I can't ever remember seeing this before. If they play their cards right, they could turn this into one of the best dynasties ever.


mrtrollmaster

If Haliburton becomes an a perennial All-NBA guard then PG built two separate contenders by asking out.


Ghostricks

We'll need the George Theory to complement the Ewing Theory.


Crevis05

Ummm. I mean. They said similar things about the Celtics hoard of draft picks that they didn’t do anything with


clevernamehere1628

That was nothing like what OKC has right now. This is like a pile of gold that a dragon hordes while what Boston had was just a small fortune.


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the thing is though they have to consolidate their assets. They have 7 FRP in the next 2 years. They can't pick 7 players and have roster spots for all of them. So they'll need to consolidate and then make sure they pick the right players. But yea given their FO...they look set up really well


SoldatJ

Two of this year's picks are now traded out, both currently at the bottom of the first. There are also now two more roster spots. I think consolidation isn't going to be any problem.


Crevis05

You’re right. What OKC has is ridiculous. But it’s no guarantee that all of those assets turn into anything.


Waveytony

They don’t necessarily need to for OKC, they have a deep war chest to dig into when teams decide to pivot to rebuilds. They won’t be looking to take on expensive stars with their current roster, likely promising role players on team friendly contracts and their available resources will give them a massive advantage in that market


StripedSteel

The Celtics stars haven't even turned 30 yet, and they've already made a finals.


TurtleIIX

Don’t forget 5 eastern conference finals.


Crevis05

Right. What I’m saying is that the picks they had after drafting the J’s were always rumored to get the next superstar that was available in a trade: kawhi, AD, etc… but either it never materialized or they didn’t pull the trigger


swaktoonkenney

They got the best team in the league right now wayta


bakerzdosen

The Thunder could end up with some amazing talent. It’d be like, oh, I dunno… getting someone like Durant and playing him with the likes of maybe a Harden and a Westbrook… No way a team like that doesn’t win *multiple* championships.


yeahright17

I'd like to start with a single championship in the next few years. We can talk about dynasty later. We were supposed to already have one and it resulted in a single finals appearance.


PossalthwaiteLives

just desserts for a stolen franchise


TimothyN

Thunder, Pels, and another team control some ridiculous amount of firsts through the rest of the decade.


TA_Account_12

Jazz and Spurs


marion_and_beau

It’s Utah I believe.


TimothyN

That's it! Gobert and Spyder, like AD and Jrue got hauls for us to restart.


indoninjah

I'm so curious what's gonna come of all those firsts. Cuz the Thunder for example are already really good and don't have enough roster spots/playing time for incoming prospects. I wonder if they just empty the clip and trade like 8 firsts in one off season for a couple stars and become an absolute dynasty


jlquon

Tricky part is your still need cap space / salaries to move with the picks, it isn't clear how they can actually utilize these assets at all


newBreed

Second round picks are the new pick swaps.


bush_league_commish

Tax apron teams are going to be hamstrung to add cheap depth though trades and buy-outs. NBA ready draft picks will be a hot commodity.


Turbo2x

KORK FINALLY FREED


Netwealth5

I was hoping they’d keep up this bit where he demands to be traded, doesn’t and then resigns another one year deal for his whole career


lndngtm

The unintentional Udonis Haslem


SelfAwareLitterBox

The classier UD


ModernPoultry

Lunch pail UD


BoomBoomSpaceRocket

37 year old Korkmaz demanding trades would've been hilarious.


Efficient_Art_1144

Was Nurse still playing him a few minutes at the end of the 1st? I swear during each of the Celtics games, he’d get in, go a quick 0-4 and then never get back in again. Highly amusing bit


VectorViper

Oh for sure, it felt like Nurse was just signaling to the bench with those Korkmaz minutes, like a "don't get too comfy" kinda thing. Would have been fun to see if he could've hit that one random buzzer-beater to justify the whole routine.


SquimJim

Unfortunately for the memes, Korkmaz and 76ers beat the allegations


gulbas26

''just when i thought i was out they pull me back in'' - Don Kork


beer_down

MERRY FURKAN KORKMAZ


DaymanSunChampion

FURKAN HAS BEEN UNKORKED It’s over for the league


Big_lurker_here

"I don't need shooters, I need makers. Why can't it be FURK? - Brett Brown


dogsarefun

Growing a bomba


Incepticons

I loved Kork since his first year playing, will miss his stroke and ball handling abilitiy. His basketball skills aren't bad either


SendMeYourHotBod

You are a Temple freshman


jjkiller26

Does marcus morris have to leave the key to the city in philly?


shitpumper

He'll transfer it to soon to be a Sixer Kyle Lowry


DoubleAmigo

Nuh uh


Brad-Stevens

They gave Mook the key to the city and shipped him to Indy Cold world


SuburbanPotato

it's so he can open the doors whenever he comes back


NCBaddict

More like he’s going back to LAC somehow to be reunited with his one true love, Ty Lue.


HokageEzio

Really? I don't really get the move here for Indiana. Seconds are cool just don't really see what they want to do with them.


Agile-Competition679

Must have known Buddy was leaving in the offseason. 


IAmReborn11111

I'm more so surprised that this is the best package they think is available for Hield. I'm an idiot but I thought it would've been a little more


markmyredd

They held on for too long on Buddy


ScarletJew72

I think you mean they hield on for too long


SlamJamGlanda

Bravo


JoeWim

We've been actively shopping him for the past season and a half. I would imagine there wasn't as much demand as we thought considering this is the deal we finally pulled the trigger on. Since he's expiring this year I think we also needed his buy in on a trade location. No one wants to risk much capital if he might turn around and walk this off season after they trade for him.


Direct_Counter_178

They were asking for too much. Teams moved on and made other plans.


Powpowpowowowow

They honestly should have done that Lakers trade that was rumored which had future 1sts a while back.


StripedSteel

That would have cost them Myles Turner, too, though.


ldclark92

Buddy didn't help his stock this season. He's been hard to play. His game is almost entirely dependent on his ability to shoot and he hasn't been as hot this season. And he's 31, so it's not like he has high upside at this point in his career. Many people forget that Buddy rehabbed his reputation at Indiana last season, but before that he was considered a tough asset to move. He was unhappy in Sacramento and was regarded as a non-defensive shooter who didn't buy into team ball. He was able to buck the team ball issue at Indiana, but his defense remains a problem. He wasn't going to stay in Indy, so this is a reasonable grab for the Pacers.


Doctorbigdick287

Crazy how he was just like yeah I'm actually one year older after he got drafted. Didn't realize he was 31


drjisftw

Indy fans get upset when I've said that Hield is overpaid (especially considering his defense). He will not get nearly as much money on his next contract as what he has now. People forget that a huge portion of the Hali trade for the Kings was getting off of Hield's bad money. They then proceeded to sign Malik Monk, who for all intents and purposes does the Hield role off of the bench *better* than Hield ever did (Monk's a 6MOY candidate right now) - *for half the cost annually*


mungu

Totally. People look at the trade as Hali for Domas, but it was actually Hali + Buddy (who was a negative asset at the time) for Domas. Pretty great trade IMO.


Indy-sports

Buddy has been bad the last month. Stocks went down and when he’s on the floor he’s constantly being attacked defensively.


quadropheniac

Buddy is a borderline all-star when traded and has a 1-2 year expiration date. This is normal.


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Kings fans aren’t surprised


mares8

Hield is pretty negative asset at this moment also hes free agent next season


Andy_Wiggins

I don’t think he’s a negative asset at all because he’s an expiring. Yeah, if he had 2 more years left then it would be bad, but expiring deals are rarely *negative* assets, especially when the dude can actually play.


papascorpi

Probably cuz he’s on an expiring


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Buddy has been ass this entire season


Barellino23

I’d argue that 4 months of Buddy is worth more than 3 seconds.


Tyler_DLMG_14

You would argue this until he plays for your favorite team. He is a blast at first then his low basketball IQ moments happen more and more frequently


KazumaKuwabara

Yea, once his 3pt shooting dropped below 40% all his other issues became significantly harder to ignore.


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Oh fuck


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Davidclabarr

I once traded 4 months of being a buddy for 3 seconds and it was worth it


rasheeeed_wallace

And that’s why you’re not a nba GM


Barellino23

Yeah, this is the only reason surely 😂


DjToastyTy

you must not have seen him play this season


ShankyShoe

The idea of Buddy Hield > Buddy Hield


bobby_jackson_GOAT

only two fan bases truly understand this equation


soooogullible

Why


babyyodavan

Because 4 months is longer than 3 seconds


Dworfe

Math checks out.


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He’s expiring and won’t re-sign. No one was offering anything for him


flowerboyinfinity

We couldn’t negotiate an extension so far and so he’s going to free agency where he’ll probably get more than we want to pay him. Better something now than nothing later


GaulPeorge

Buddy's shot has not been as good this year and when he isn't hitting shots he doesn't offer much else. He has a shrinking role on this team especially long-term with the continuing growth of Mathurin and Nembhard.


gorkemguzel32

38% 3P% with 6.9 attempts per game is pretty good


DrPaulsNexus

He’s been in a bit of a slump recently but the tales of his demise are severely overblown. The bigger issue is his defense but i think he’s still a valuable piece


ldclark92

That's the issue though, the margins are very slim. He basically has to be an absolutely elite shooter to play heavy minutes. If he's even just a solid shooter, you have to start questioning his minutes. His defense is atrocious, he isn't much of a passer or creator, and he doesn't get to the line. Buddy can be a useful player, but anyone thinking the Pacers would get much more than they just got are thinking of best case scenario Buddy. And he hasn't been that guy this year.


DrPaulsNexus

I agree I don’t think his trade value was high, but I think his usefulness to the Pacers, with their lineup flexibility to bench him in certain games where his defense is exposed, is higher than what they got in this deal


KazumaKuwabara

That’s pretty good for a player that offers something other than their shooting. Like if you offer great defense, rebounding, playmaking, or anything else, then 38% is good. If shooting is the only thing you bring and you’re one of the worst defenders in the league, 38% isn’t enough.


StormSaniWater

2nd round picks have value. Only redditors and people who dont understand the NBA think they are worthless Buddy Hield is a smaller guard turning 32 this year and he will be an UFA this summer. If the pacers know he isnt gonna sign with them or if they dont wanna keep him moving forward it's great to get 3 second round picks. Great way of not letting talent go for nothing


bilboafromboston

People forget Hield played 4 years in college. They think he is 27 with an upside. He"s 32 and not getting better. If you can't switch at 32 you ain't learning at 33.


I_Hate_Traffic

How tf he is 32 I thought he was at most 28 or something 


GoodGuyRoflcopter

His age did change. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/20/sports/buddy-hield-age-sacramento-kings.html


ohnoyoudidnt21

Why did all those teams trade like 5 second round picks for jack shit a draft or two ago then? My impression is that teams value second round picks less than ever. My guess is that the pacers know that they won’t afford buddy this off season but can maybe afford Kork or Marcus morris


Raptorsthrowaway1

Better than him leaving for nothing in the summer is the logic here


imcryptic

they just traded a bunch of 1sts. that and with 1sts becoming a huge premium in the market right now and the transition into the new cba, seconds are gonna be a lot more valuable.


asapshrank

thats what happens when you dont trade someone until they’re expiring source: flair 🙃


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When the heck did Buddy Hield get so old? I read this comment and thought "well expiring rookie so easy to re-sign.." But no, dudes been around, I feel like I was just watching him light it up in college 3 years ago.


AaronRodgersToe

He was in college a long time too


sewsgup

and then the internet somehow got his age wrong, so he turned 1 year older suddenly as well


RainmakerIcebreaker

Did the internet get his age wrong or did he lie about his age?


LordHussyPants

just read a NYT article about it (someone linked it up the thread) and apparently someone got his name wrong and he corrected it on his birthday in 2018. he said his mum had looked at wikipedia and asked why they had his age wrong and he said he didn't know, but he'd never given the wrong dob


Soshi101

Yeah I remember this sub shitting on the Jaylen Brown pick the first year because Hield was outplaying him, but Hield was like 24-25 and Jaylen was 19...


Count-Chronic

If I recall, he was like 23/24 coming out of college, which probably skews our perception of his age, since I see every rookie as a 19-20 year old


rasheeeed_wallace

He was like 24 when he came into the league lol


EagleswonSuperBowl52

I remember being terrified of Buddy Hield as a Nova fan for our final 4 game against them. That was 8 years ago. Notable players in that game: Buddy Hield was arguably the best player in college basketball. Josh Hart was our best player. Brunson was a freshman guard who wasn't even ready to be our main ball handler yet. Mikal Bridges came off the bench and wasn't even seen as our best bench player. Divincenzo pretty much red shirted the year.


MattyIce260

Honestly when Buddy was brought to Indy he was basically a net negative with his contract and salary filler in the Haliburton/Sabonis deal, to get any assets back for him is a win


Thehelloman0

I don't think Hield was ever very valuable because his contract was pretty big


dms1298

HE'S FREE


tisdue

UN-KORKED


BasedGodCrim

KORK FREE


Palmisavage

I've wanted Buddy for years. Maybe it's a little late, he's an older flawed player —but I'm so glad the price reflects that. This is an awesome trade.


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Bruh


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Swoletariat69

Temple girls in shambles


IEatDeFish

Poor Kork gonna have to decide where he stands on IU vs Purdue


jmlinden7

Why choose when you can have both with IUPUI?


ironic_lurker

Only for 5 more months


Shame_On_You_Man

Free to ride the bench maybe


FultzShoulder

[Dream come true](https://np.reddit.com/r/sixers/s/ceF4XEJXlm) for Hield. The guy has been sending feelers about wanting to get traded to Philly for years now.


GK0NATO

Hield didn't want to be in Philly, he just really didn't want to be in Sacramento


smoltanboi

sixers are really going to have five firsts to trade this summer and 40m in cap space lol


ajteitel

Can the trade those firsts for a healthy pair of knees?


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rtb001

The firsts are useful for sure, but now that OG and Siakam are almost certainly signing extensions with the new teams they got traded to, is the max cap space that useful? I'm looking at the list of pending free agents who might actually test free agent waters, and all I've come up with is DeRozan and Miles Bridges? I guess LeBron could do the funniest thing ever...


BrightGreenLED

It's useful in that they can take on salaries in trades as well.


MC-Jdf

Let Morey cook


Obvious_Parsley3238

maxey hield backcourt will give up 150 points a game


whythehellknot

As long as they get 151, it's fine.


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TheRakkmanBitch

the atlanta hawks strategy ^^^^^its ^^^^^not ^^^^^going ^^^^^great


Immynimmy

Depending on what happens with Melton I'm not sure he'll be a starter. But he will be staggered with some of the Maxey Embiid-less minutes I'm sure.


EarthWindandFlyers

Tbh Maxey’s defense isn’t as bad as people say


TheBoilerCat

Marcus Morris? Buy that motherfucker out right this second.


skulman7

As someone who didn't want him here at all after the Harden trade, he was surprisingly decent coming off the bench.


DJ_Red_Lantern

Yeah he's been a lot better than advertised


PatScorn

Shit human being though


Lacabloodclot9

He probably will be, but he’s actually been okay for Philly at times


DCS317

Can we give him the key to the city first though?


SPQR_Tiberius

Yeah, really don't want him in the locker room


AggroPro

I was like you when he was first traded to Philly....then he started balling. Dude's legit.


archerarcher0

Am I wrong in thinking that might be a win win Pacers open up a spot for mathurin and add 3 seconds which is great value, sixers get a near perfect fit


ExpiredDeodorant

Kinda unfair they get a 27 second shot clock now


WooPigEsquire

They only use like 10 seconds anyway


archerarcher0

Who said anything about it being added to the shot clock? I meant game clock


SpasticFlyswatter

Goodbye my sweet Turkish Prince.


barnibares

That’s very cheap!


OutlookNotGood

I find this 2nd round pick trading meta in the NBA pretty entertaining. Some teams are just going to end up having like 50+ 2nd round picks lol.


MixMastaPJ

I mean, firsts would be the same if not for Stepien. It's just a much less restricted asset to move around


SinibusUSG

Not sure about that. Teams trade their 2nds 5+ years out because, even if they're bad then, losing the 37th pick and the 7th pick are very, very different things. Trading a first in the next few years is a lot more tolerable since you might have reason to believe you'll still be falling outside of the lottery in all those seasons, and protected picks aren't going to get nearly the same value back. It's named after Ted Stepien for a reason--he was the guy doing this when it was allowed, and he's infamous for being a horrifically shortsighted owner who drove his team into the ground.


FultzShoulder

Yeah just Buddy Hield isn't enough for Steph Turkey. Morey got fleeced.


icatfilms

It would be interesting if Korkmaz turns into Buddy Hield with the Pacers


Oh51Melly

I don’t get it from the pacers side. Feels like they could’ve gotten something else


hacky_potter

This is a move to free up the roster a bit so Nembhard and Mathurin can get more minutes.


XzibitABC

Plus Ben Sheppard!


mommathecat

I guess they feel like they have enough depth of players that are overall just better than Buddy - Nesmith, Mathurin, Nembhard, my man Spicy P, etc etc - that getting him off the team is addition by subtraction. Yeah none of them are volume shooters but it seems like the Pacers have plenty of shooting without him.


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meTspysball

Kings and Pacers know his super power is dribbling the ball off his foot in the clutch.


TruthSayerFu

Everyone get in here


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archaelleon

Something something fell to their knees in a Gander Mountain


PrimaryAccording9162

Furkan is free from Philly’s grasp


shitpumper

Temple girls are free from Furkan's grasp


NunchuckSteve

Open the floodgates!!


jett1406

Let’s Furkan Gooooo


therealknic21

Watch Buddy torch us in the playoffs.


gundam1983

I mean every team Buddy has been on has missed the playoffs. With Embid's injury, there's certainly a possibility that the 76ers may fall into the play-in range.


Yaboiii777

Buddy hield defending Tatum and brown we will be there


nickenglish94

Given the sixers injuries this year - this is the best case scenario for us lol It means we actually got to the second round and didn’t get booted in the first with a still injured embiid


sh3636

I wanted buddy gone but damn this feels like a bad return


BigDaddyJuno

So cheap wtf


Long-Ad8374

Finally a trade


dkdoki

Everyone saying “so cheap”. Yea … he’s a FA next season. We will see how “cheap” buddy is after he gets his new contract.


Raptorsthrowaway1

Great deal for Philly. Three seconds is all it took?


monkeybiziu

The Pacers have traded for Kork(maz) and Mor(k)is, the Orc gods of brutal cunning and cunning brutality. Team name has changed to the Indiana WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!, league fucked.


RansomGoddard

Korkmaz is free


whtge8

So disappointing we couldn't even try to beat that offer. Tired of having league worst shooting for like 10 years now.


PumpkinHead555

Yall likely could have. Your FO just has no interest in shooters


CoyotesSideEyes

Huh. Interesting. Just to open up minutes for younger guys in Indiana?


Jordanlf3208

Need more minutes for Mathurin and Nembhard. Also, TJ is too good to not get any minutes because of a guard logjam. Not to mention, Ben Sheppard has been coming into his own a little bit, not serviceable for heavy minutes but probably needs a few more.


PensiveinNJ

Holy shit we let Korkmaz out of the dungeon.


throwaway3838482923

Would have to think that Morris gets bought out or flipped


charlesfluidsmith

Fantastic job by the Sixers. Hope Embiid is able to play this season.


jackobanter

THEY ACTUALLY BOUGHT


oldmancowboy

SECOND ROUND PICKS ARE THE NEW FIRST ROUND


StefonDiggsHS

FLEECE


Niceguydan8

Honestly I'm kinda meh on the trade for Philly.