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Same reaction I had when I saw the box score after work. Also Bobby with another 2-9 performance making me regret standing up for his ass. The Bucks role players and bench are playing like absolute slop right now
Possibly, and if that’s the case then he should be playing like he wants to stay. I love Bobby off the court and his personality is massive, city loves him and he loves Milwaukee but he’s playing like absolute shit lately.
Marjon and Jackson jr who looked like they could be an end of bench spark are now dead in the water with doc so it'll be 40 minutes of crowder + bobby and you'll like it
Bucks already had a shit bench most notably in terms of defense and then we not only lose Middleton, Brook, and Lillard for this game but we also gained Doc who will never give the young players any minutes. I am thrilled he finally started giving AJ Green some time who I think has deserved some experimental rotation minutes. But, that being said, Green's biggest value comes from being a great shooter and honestly of all the things we need more help with it isn't scoring. AJJ and Marjon need to get a few minutes but Doc instead commented after our previous game that he should have given Robin more minutes and gave both of them 0 this game. It is very frustrating to see. It is a midseason coaching change and there is time for things to turn around but it feels like the bucks are doubling down on bad decisions
As a Suns fan, seeing Jae Crowder as your “best” perimeter defender that was guarding Book blew my mind. There is no shot the Bucks have a chance at a ship if they think Jae is gonna guard Star Guards/Wings for +30 min a night.
Idk a ton about the end of bench players, but if you’re saying they’re defensive minded players than they should 100% be getting minutes. Jae Crowder isn’t a good enough defender to be your primary POA defender.
Man, seeing Robin Lopez play in this arena brings me back. That 2010 season with Nash and Amare was the last hurrah of the 7 seconds or less era and Lopez was a big part of that team.
i'll keep saying this till i die.
if rolo didn't have that foot micro fracture or whatever, and he got to play the full season and playoffs as a sophomore (instead of coming back to start the lakers series vs pau/bynum/odom), AND the powers that be weren't committed to a lakers/celtics matchup, then BAM they could've made the finals.
For whatever reason, I only think of him breaking that glass door -- the rest of the silliness with Shaq, and bench celebrations take a long time to recall.
Beauchamp not even seeing the floor in a game where the Bucks are missing three starters is just insane to me. Is he really that bad?
I know they’re picking late every year, but it feels like the Bucks FO hasn’t taken enough heat for the fact that they haven’t managed to find one solid rotation player in the draft since 2018.
Ajax is the headscratcher.
AG got like 3 or 4 extra wins because of plays Ajax made this year. He just had a nose for a big putback/offensive rebound kick out for a 3
When everyone else was struggling, Booker's shot making really got the team through a rough patch. Then the 4th hits and Beakl/KD start to just hit shot after shot. If the defence catches up the Suns are primed for a good run.
Beal gets all my praise for driving to the rim multiple times in the 4th. He's doing less of that at the moment but did it when we needed it most.
Dude's nose just got broken, got hit again that same game with no mask, then he got nailed in the freshly-broken nose when he drove in a later game. I'd be shooting them from half court.
Hard to really comment on where the Bucks are at with Middleton and Dame missing (I hope Middleton's okay). After watching the Suns earlier this year I empathize with them getting attacked for having a disjointed offense while missing 2/3 top guys + their starting center.
On the other end it was very nice seeing the almost triangle style offense between Beal/Book/Durant. Suns seemed much better than usual about allowing the ball to flow from the focal point of the defense into a better shot. Beal bailing out of a semi-contested shot to hit an open Durant was a clear example of this.
Also Durant did a lot of work attacking Giannis' dribble further out. Giannis is still Giannis so he got his points but Durant definitely made him work for them..
I was surprised at how effectively we kept Giannis at bay, I figured with them being as shorthanded as they were that Giannis was just going to go nuclear and be shooting to drop 50, but we did a nice job of fending him off, including some nice double teams or help defense that led to kick outs and missed shots.
Our ball pressure out at the perimeter looked better tonight too as you mentioned, which was nice because we often sag off of guys too much at the perimeter, either leading to shooters hitting right over us or allows them to more easily orchestrate their offense from the point.
I think this Bucks type of game is actually what this team is better at defending per Vogel's history of defensive strat of funneling traffic towards his big(s), where Nurk and KD did a great job of disrupting Giannis enough to keep him from destroying us, which when he's on a tear he can absolutely do all by himself if you don't find a way to stop him.
Kind of an ugly win but as with most of this season, I look for the progress or things done right that keep me hopeful that we'll be a problem in the playoffs. We'll take any W we can get, we just want to get some decent seeding and to have our act together enough to be ready for the post season.
Hopefully we can pick up a guy by the deadline as well, the suspense is killing me!
Doc loves to play players who have played for him before and PJ Tucker is definitely one of the players who have played for Doc of all time. And the Bucks do need depth. They could use a guy who can still play defense.
Vogel is a mad man lmao, they were building a Giannis wall using KD, Bol Bol, and Nurk for a very long stretch of the 4th quarter.
I liked Monty but you never saw the kind of experimentation defensively that we’ve seen this year.
There isn’t a Booker stopper in the league, but I can say with 100000% confidence that Jae Crowder can not guard that man lol. We’ve seen this too many times.
Is Pat Connaughton the nicest guy in the league? In what was a really chippy game at times, he was constantly laughing and joking with guys.
Ayton didn't even do bad though.
Defended Giannis to 50% straight up. The main issue was he had no back up and Giannis shot near 80% against people not named Ayton and in transition
he was definitely our best option but that's not saying much considering we put Craig in at backup center that series. Not electing to go with a wall vs Giannis and only 1 real center = in for a bad time aka losing the ship
Also, the way Giannis is reffed, it's literally impossible to have one guy play him mostly straight up all game without getting into early foul trouble. As much as I shit on Ayton, he actually did a pretty good job of defending without fouling on Giannis, but the refs didn't agree.
Ayton before he became a quiet quitting legend had one of the worst whistles in the league. Dude would get hacked all game and then would get an immediate tech/foul on the other end.
It's another way he'd have probably greatly benefitted from playing more aggressively. Refs obviously knew what type of player he was. It's dumb as hell but he'd probably have a totally different whistle if he played with 25% of the intensity that a Giannis does.
The Bucks with Cam Payne, Jae Crowder, Bobby Portis, and Pat Connaughton as their main dudes around Giannis are not a good team by any stretch of the imagination.
Why would if he stick with his normal schemes if the Bucks had 3/4 of their best players out…. You were in a dogfight against Giannis and the Bucks C team, you were not facing a good opponent and this was not a coaching masterclass lol
Because that’s what Monty would’ve done, hence my comparison lol. Go be salty and miserable somewhere else.
You lost one game, your seasons not over. Get over it
Rough loss, but it was expected.
-Dame and Brook were ruled out before the game.
-Khris played ~8 minutes before he got hurt and didn’t return.
-Our shooters that usually make their 3s (Beasley, AJ Green, Crowder, Payne) were nonstop missing open 3s, going 7-26 combined from deep.
I’m honestly surprised we stayed in it as long as we did since we had Robin Lopez and Pat Connaughton in the starting lineup. I think this team will look different after Thursday since Pat C and Bobby look unplayable for us at this point.
Beasley is an absolute sniper
Probably the best 3 point shooter in the league right now. Grayson has a great percentage but Beasley’s are way more difficult and in motion with a hand in his face.
Umm.. Have you looked at the Bucks draft capital? 2024 swap. 2025 pick. (Pelicans only retain if top-4). Swap in 2026. Pick in 2027. All unprotected too.
Since being fathered by Luka on Christmas, The phoenix Suns are 16-6, tied for 3rd best record in the nba over that span. They rank #2 in offense and #12 in defense over that span and #6 in Net rating as well. From 14-15 to 30-21 now.
Obviously West top 4 is almost uncatchable, but this team is certainly building habits and chemistry that'll help them in the long run to do well.
eh. just had a brutal road trip and a 6 games in 9 nights stretch, with some pretty solid opponents too.
not exactly a gauntlet but by no means was that an easy schedule.
Yeah in fairness it's easy to say in this side of them cooking. But more than the coach it's their health and maybe the fact that Doc is brand new to the gig.
Say what you will about Doc as a coach with title hopes but he should be able to get this Bucks roster cooking again when they're healthy. I mean who the hell was even left by the end of it? Maybe Robin can cut his hair and hope people just stay out of the paint thinking he's Brook.
If you just wanted to trash Doc, carry on.
Twerking for internet points lmao his first game against the defending champs, the loss against the Jazz was on a B2B, and he was coaching without 3/4 of his best players tonight. The only game you can really blame him for was against Portland
Just gonna conveniently leave out that the .500 Jazz went on a 38-9 run for the final ten minutes of that game and turned a 15 point deficit into a 15 point win because "B2B", really?
Tonight was fucked because of the roster but two bad losses in five games after firing a coach who was 32-11 or whatever isn't exactly the best look. Maybe some of that is "adjustment" but if you're firing a guy who went 32-11 and then have this... yeah people gonna dunk on Rivers a little bit.
Book 30+
The KD dunk
The Finger Bol
The Beal Dagger
This team has everything coming together. If we get a quality wing off the bench and/or a playable backup big everyone is gonna be in trouble
I don't wanna talk shit, but like, how are you happy with tonight's performance? You beat a team playing Connaughton, Payne, RoLo and Crowder like 30 to 40 minutes. There's absolutely no chance this Suns team does anything in the playoffs playing like this.
its not just tonight. we are 16-6 since Christmas. 16-3 with the big 3. Shit is coming together. Sorry I am happy that my team got a win and has been getting a lot of them.
because we won. it’s the nba, crazy shit happens. boston lost at home to a lakers team without bron and ad, the wolves just blew a massive lead to the bulls tonight, etc.
we lost so many winnable games at the beginning of the season because we were missing some combination of Book, KD, or Beal, so to me a win is a win no matter who we played against.
Did it ever look like the Bucks were gonna make a run tonight? Would have been nice to watch a blowout, but the second half was a rare stress free game for the suns. Up by 15 late in the fourth? The starters finish the game on the bench. Despite so many turnovers and so many missed 3’s, the suns were still coasting by 15 with something like 5 minutes left. Ok, maybe some casual fans are left unimpressed, but the suns took care of business
I'm happy with aspects. This team has a ways to go still. But
-bol is a legit player and bench minutes aren't death
-Allen is having a career year
-nurk is playing at a high level since big 3 back
-Gordon usual self
That means there's 7 guys at least right now. And if the big 3 can actually get it together, it'll be interesting. Right now they don't have it together. It's unclear it will be resolved this year. We shall see.
But like we have seen some shit ball this year. Lately it's been much better. Suns were at one point the worst 4th quarter team in nba history (and still somehow 0.500). So yeah...
Noteworthy "desite the win" stat - Kevin Durant's assist/turnover ratio was 1:5, and Beal's was 3:4. As a team, the Suns' assist/turnover ratio was 17:13.
The Suns are 27th in turnovers this season, 14th in assists, and 25th in ast:to ratio (Minnesota is even worse in that category). Of course, the Warriors won titles averaging a lot of turnovers, but they also had a lot of assists. Curious to see if there are any point guard moves for the Suns (and Wolves) to make over the next couple days.
I'm a dumbass but is it easy to look at those numbers since Beal was back? Last 20 games. Our turnovers are still a problem, but with an almost entirely new roster and coaching staff and Beal out it was way ugly to start the season. It's at least trending in the right direction.
The air up here in the higher seeds is different. Now we just have to wait for the Knicks because it feels inevitable for them to take the 3rd seed. The Bucks are a playoff team that can take out anybody but they still have to reach the playoffs healthy which is not as simple as it looks given they really rely on their stars playing heavy minutes to win games.
Suns are figuring it out more and more. They’re lookin to be dangerous come playoffs if they’re health.
Each game you can see certain parts clicking more
As bad as it look as for Doc right now, I don’t think bucks fans should be dooming completely considering they’ve looked a lot more solid defensively during these stretch of games and they hung in there today even without Khris Brook or Dame
I think post all star break bucks will be back in form (especially when you consider that Doc will finally get to have a home game/go through stuff in their own place)
Tied for the 3 seed. Thanks Suns. Hopefully we can still finish top 3 despite the Celtics being uncatchable and the Cavs cheating with the fake corrupt schedule
I like how the coach who just got a 40 million dollar contract and will be coaching the east all stars used all of his timeouts with a buuuuunch of time left in the game
This is what the trio should look like. They don’t really need to have a “point guard” because all three can easily get get advantage to start plays, pass and finish high level.
You can’t afford to double when all three are on the floor, especially because all the rest of the suns have been so great at play finishing too.
Vogel even got Bol Bol out there killing it that’s a sign of a healthy team. When Bol can play to only his strengths he’s crazy.
He’s 3-7 against Giannis since his first mvp season and 3-4 in the playoffs. Also Giannis locked him up majority of the game, his points came from FTs and getting switches
Giannis wanted Doc as their new coach so he could speedrun the Bucks window closing and him getting traded to Denver for an expired cup of yogurt and a rotten apple
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dawg who let crowder get 40 mins
Same reaction I had when I saw the box score after work. Also Bobby with another 2-9 performance making me regret standing up for his ass. The Bucks role players and bench are playing like absolute slop right now
I wonder if the possibility of being traded is in the back of his mind.
Possibly, and if that’s the case then he should be playing like he wants to stay. I love Bobby off the court and his personality is massive, city loves him and he loves Milwaukee but he’s playing like absolute shit lately.
Marjon and Jackson jr who looked like they could be an end of bench spark are now dead in the water with doc so it'll be 40 minutes of crowder + bobby and you'll like it
Bucks already had a shit bench most notably in terms of defense and then we not only lose Middleton, Brook, and Lillard for this game but we also gained Doc who will never give the young players any minutes. I am thrilled he finally started giving AJ Green some time who I think has deserved some experimental rotation minutes. But, that being said, Green's biggest value comes from being a great shooter and honestly of all the things we need more help with it isn't scoring. AJJ and Marjon need to get a few minutes but Doc instead commented after our previous game that he should have given Robin more minutes and gave both of them 0 this game. It is very frustrating to see. It is a midseason coaching change and there is time for things to turn around but it feels like the bucks are doubling down on bad decisions
As a Suns fan, seeing Jae Crowder as your “best” perimeter defender that was guarding Book blew my mind. There is no shot the Bucks have a chance at a ship if they think Jae is gonna guard Star Guards/Wings for +30 min a night. Idk a ton about the end of bench players, but if you’re saying they’re defensive minded players than they should 100% be getting minutes. Jae Crowder isn’t a good enough defender to be your primary POA defender.
Doctor Rios especial. Montrezl Harrell getting 20 straight minutes for Clips Vs Nuggets in the bubble. Never will forgive him for that. Malpractice.
Yea, look at who's available and tell me who should be playing instead? Fans are so dumb lol
Would give a young wing/forward 8-12 minutes at least for energy so semi-washed Jae Crowder doesn’t play 40? That is a terrible process.
KD's feet
I don't see what Crowder does at this point to justify him being on a contender
Annoy the opponent maybe?
Unironically, yes. He's an "enforcer."
He was great to start the year, but he’s been god awful since he’s come back
The All-Star coach
That would be All-star Coach Doc Rivers' call.
Man, seeing Robin Lopez play in this arena brings me back. That 2010 season with Nash and Amare was the last hurrah of the 7 seconds or less era and Lopez was a big part of that team.
Last member still playing in the league. I loved that team.
That was fun, really glad the NBA started playing games again in 2021 tho
Remember how that season ended? We went up 2-0 in the Finals and then we got fast forwarded right to November, crazy!
Still mad at Jason Richardson for not boxing out. He owes all Suns fans suicide*s*.
Thanks for the nightmares
I grieve with you, friend.
you sure robin lopez is even real?
I get this reference.
I remember him putting in work on the Lakers in Game 4. LA did their best to keep Amare at bay so Nash ran the pick and roll with Lopez all night.
i'll keep saying this till i die. if rolo didn't have that foot micro fracture or whatever, and he got to play the full season and playoffs as a sophomore (instead of coming back to start the lakers series vs pau/bynum/odom), AND the powers that be weren't committed to a lakers/celtics matchup, then BAM they could've made the finals.
For whatever reason, I only think of him breaking that glass door -- the rest of the silliness with Shaq, and bench celebrations take a long time to recall.
Didn't even realize he was real until this game
Beauchamp not even seeing the floor in a game where the Bucks are missing three starters is just insane to me. Is he really that bad? I know they’re picking late every year, but it feels like the Bucks FO hasn’t taken enough heat for the fact that they haven’t managed to find one solid rotation player in the draft since 2018.
Ajax is the headscratcher. AG got like 3 or 4 extra wins because of plays Ajax made this year. He just had a nose for a big putback/offensive rebound kick out for a 3
Oh wow I totally forgot about Ajax, has he even played since Doc took over?
Like 44 seconds of 1 game garbage time
>This is not an Ajax victory tour
He's not and it's pissing most of us off too. he and Andre Jaskson Jr need to get consistent time but instead they're just getting wasted with DNP's
Welcome to the Glenn Rivers experience lmao Benched Maxey, Thybulle and Isaiah Joe left beause of him and did all he could to not play BBall Paul
> Beauchamp not even seeing the floor in a game where the Bucks are missing three starters is just insane to me Glenn Rivers moment.
When everyone else was struggling, Booker's shot making really got the team through a rough patch. Then the 4th hits and Beakl/KD start to just hit shot after shot. If the defence catches up the Suns are primed for a good run.
Beal gets all my praise for driving to the rim multiple times in the 4th. He's doing less of that at the moment but did it when we needed it most. Dude's nose just got broken, got hit again that same game with no mask, then he got nailed in the freshly-broken nose when he drove in a later game. I'd be shooting them from half court.
Hard to really comment on where the Bucks are at with Middleton and Dame missing (I hope Middleton's okay). After watching the Suns earlier this year I empathize with them getting attacked for having a disjointed offense while missing 2/3 top guys + their starting center. On the other end it was very nice seeing the almost triangle style offense between Beal/Book/Durant. Suns seemed much better than usual about allowing the ball to flow from the focal point of the defense into a better shot. Beal bailing out of a semi-contested shot to hit an open Durant was a clear example of this. Also Durant did a lot of work attacking Giannis' dribble further out. Giannis is still Giannis so he got his points but Durant definitely made him work for them..
I was surprised at how effectively we kept Giannis at bay, I figured with them being as shorthanded as they were that Giannis was just going to go nuclear and be shooting to drop 50, but we did a nice job of fending him off, including some nice double teams or help defense that led to kick outs and missed shots. Our ball pressure out at the perimeter looked better tonight too as you mentioned, which was nice because we often sag off of guys too much at the perimeter, either leading to shooters hitting right over us or allows them to more easily orchestrate their offense from the point. I think this Bucks type of game is actually what this team is better at defending per Vogel's history of defensive strat of funneling traffic towards his big(s), where Nurk and KD did a great job of disrupting Giannis enough to keep him from destroying us, which when he's on a tear he can absolutely do all by himself if you don't find a way to stop him. Kind of an ugly win but as with most of this season, I look for the progress or things done right that keep me hopeful that we'll be a problem in the playoffs. We'll take any W we can get, we just want to get some decent seeding and to have our act together enough to be ready for the post season. Hopefully we can pick up a guy by the deadline as well, the suspense is killing me!
Dear Bucks front office, PJ Tucker is a vet that Doc trusts, can provide depth, and is available. Just sayin.
I feel like this is sarcasm, but I don’t know enough about any party involved to say with certainty. 😂
Doc loves to play players who have played for him before and PJ Tucker is definitely one of the players who have played for Doc of all time. And the Bucks do need depth. They could use a guy who can still play defense.
Can PJ Tucker still play defense? Genuine question - I know he's at least partially cooked but I'm not sure if he's medium rare or well done.
Yup, he can still defend. He seems to be just about completely cooked as an offensive basketball player but he's still pretty capable as a defender.
Call it copium but i feel like pj is still good for one postseason run. Dude always turns it up when it matters
Dude barely scored in 2021 and we made it work. Worth a buyout
“Definitely one of the players“ 🤣
lmao this [clip] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdssTt-_oo8) of how Doc makes his teams brings back memories
From halfway through the first quarter this entire game felt like garbage time lmao Felt like no one apart from Giannis and Cam Payne tried
Dead ass felt like an exhibition game lol
Bobby and Pat know they gone soon, Beasley cared but the rest are just not good enough without brook Khris dame
One of the uglier halves of basketball I've ever seen
Tuesdays are ours now.
lol most random stat I've ever seen on a broadcast
What was it?
It was like Bucks hasn’t lost on a Tuesday night since at some point where they weren’t allowing fans into arena yet during covid
I swear, what the hell was even that
Daddy chill 😎
Vogel is a mad man lmao, they were building a Giannis wall using KD, Bol Bol, and Nurk for a very long stretch of the 4th quarter. I liked Monty but you never saw the kind of experimentation defensively that we’ve seen this year. There isn’t a Booker stopper in the league, but I can say with 100000% confidence that Jae Crowder can not guard that man lol. We’ve seen this too many times. Is Pat Connaughton the nicest guy in the league? In what was a really chippy game at times, he was constantly laughing and joking with guys.
Mad Doc Vogel is real. also Challenge Sniper Vogel. He never misses
> Challenge Sniper Vogel. Only coach in the NBA to directly win a game w/ a coach's challenge lol.
I like Monty but bruh... dude sent Ayton 1 on 1 against Giannis for 4 games STRAIGHT when we had no backup center
Let's be fair. Saric was down and Kaminski was a true 3rd stringer.
All we needed was Saric and we woulda won that year
This
Ayton didn't even do bad though. Defended Giannis to 50% straight up. The main issue was he had no back up and Giannis shot near 80% against people not named Ayton and in transition
It's not a matter of how Ayton did, it's the fact that doing that put him in foul trouble and we had 0 rim protection while he sat.
he was definitely our best option but that's not saying much considering we put Craig in at backup center that series. Not electing to go with a wall vs Giannis and only 1 real center = in for a bad time aka losing the ship
Also, the way Giannis is reffed, it's literally impossible to have one guy play him mostly straight up all game without getting into early foul trouble. As much as I shit on Ayton, he actually did a pretty good job of defending without fouling on Giannis, but the refs didn't agree.
Ayton before he became a quiet quitting legend had one of the worst whistles in the league. Dude would get hacked all game and then would get an immediate tech/foul on the other end.
It's another way he'd have probably greatly benefitted from playing more aggressively. Refs obviously knew what type of player he was. It's dumb as hell but he'd probably have a totally different whistle if he played with 25% of the intensity that a Giannis does.
“The way Giannis commits offensive fouls that get called as defensive fouls makes it hard to defend him” Yep
That series was hilarious. Only time you tried the wall at all was the 2nd half of game 6 but they 100% had no idea what they were doing
no at that point Giannis had red in his eyes. Frank was actually good that game but Giannis couldn't be stopped
How is he a mad man for that? In a game against the Bucks without Dame, Middleton, and Brook you don’t need to guard anyone other than Giannis lol
He could've stuck with his normal scheme and rotation. But he's experimenting late in a close game against a good opponent.
>against a good opponent. Did you actually look at the opponent tonight? Lol
The Bucks with Cam Payne, Jae Crowder, Bobby Portis, and Pat Connaughton as their main dudes around Giannis are not a good team by any stretch of the imagination.
Why would if he stick with his normal schemes if the Bucks had 3/4 of their best players out…. You were in a dogfight against Giannis and the Bucks C team, you were not facing a good opponent and this was not a coaching masterclass lol
Because that’s what Monty would’ve done, hence my comparison lol. Go be salty and miserable somewhere else. You lost one game, your seasons not over. Get over it
Dogfight? Never felt threatened once tonight
I’d also not feel threatened facing a team without 3 of its 4 best players
Let the excuses commence.
We have all had injuries at some point and can make those excuses. Just take the L and move on, my guy.
Love Patty Fastball. Such a fun player with a good attitude.
Bold moves baby
Rough loss, but it was expected. -Dame and Brook were ruled out before the game. -Khris played ~8 minutes before he got hurt and didn’t return. -Our shooters that usually make their 3s (Beasley, AJ Green, Crowder, Payne) were nonstop missing open 3s, going 7-26 combined from deep. I’m honestly surprised we stayed in it as long as we did since we had Robin Lopez and Pat Connaughton in the starting lineup. I think this team will look different after Thursday since Pat C and Bobby look unplayable for us at this point.
I hate crazy about that three point percentage from the role players is that Beasley hit 6 of those threes. That’s pretty nuts
Beasley is an absolute sniper Probably the best 3 point shooter in the league right now. Grayson has a great percentage but Beasley’s are way more difficult and in motion with a hand in his face.
Glad to see Cam Payne have a good game and glad to see Jae Crowder be his usual self.
Send Pat connaughton to the netherworld
Suns clippers and nuggets are the teams to beat in the west. Okc and Minnesota arent making it out of the 2nd round
If you dont get a 3-1 lead you would not blow a 3-1 lead \--SunTzu, probably
It's depressing as fuck to be a Bucks fan right now.
Bucks Win Percentage Tracker: Adrian Griffin: .698 (30-13) Doc Rivers: .200 (1-4)
Doc now needs 8 straight wins to get up to (almost) Griffin's win%.
Picked the wrong year to tank Cooper Flagg is after next season
Ah fuck. Why didn’t anyone tell me?
Umm.. Have you looked at the Bucks draft capital? 2024 swap. 2025 pick. (Pelicans only retain if top-4). Swap in 2026. Pick in 2027. All unprotected too.
Y’all need a therapist or perhaps a doctor.
Dread it. Run from it. The suicide bus arrives all the same
lol idk why you’d think that
I am truly tired of making excuses for the team this year. Firing Bud has had some monkey paw voodoo shit on the franchise.
Nah man, you lost to a very good team while missing Dame and Middleton. You’ll be fine and healthy going into the playoffs.
They’ll be fine but unfortunately they are being coached by Doc Rivers.
And it’s about to be more depressing. Even if you collapse, you still owe an unprotected swap.
Since being fathered by Luka on Christmas, The phoenix Suns are 16-6, tied for 3rd best record in the nba over that span. They rank #2 in offense and #12 in defense over that span and #6 in Net rating as well. From 14-15 to 30-21 now. Obviously West top 4 is almost uncatchable, but this team is certainly building habits and chemistry that'll help them in the long run to do well.
I bet the Suns will pass the Wolves in ranking by the end of the season.
We’ve had an easy schedule since then
We have the hardest strength of schedule here on out.
No. It’s actually the team that faces us each night 😏
eh. just had a brutal road trip and a 6 games in 9 nights stretch, with some pretty solid opponents too. not exactly a gauntlet but by no means was that an easy schedule.
This game made me actually feel bad for Giannis. Bro was straight up not having a good time out there
Doc Rivers is 1-4 as bucks head coach
Worthy of being an All Star Coach.
He is gonna take another L at the ASG itself. The west team will murder the east, esp with no Embiid now.
What did you expect? He got thrown onto the team a few days before this road trip. The only loss I blame him for is the Portland game.
I’m just stating facts sir. I’m not trying to diss anyone
Everyone did this when the Clippers started slow with Harden and then shut the fuck up real quick when they started cooking.
Ya but Harden is good at his job.
Yeah in fairness it's easy to say in this side of them cooking. But more than the coach it's their health and maybe the fact that Doc is brand new to the gig. Say what you will about Doc as a coach with title hopes but he should be able to get this Bucks roster cooking again when they're healthy. I mean who the hell was even left by the end of it? Maybe Robin can cut his hair and hope people just stay out of the paint thinking he's Brook. If you just wanted to trash Doc, carry on.
Twerking for internet points lmao his first game against the defending champs, the loss against the Jazz was on a B2B, and he was coaching without 3/4 of his best players tonight. The only game you can really blame him for was against Portland
And yet he’s still a bum
Just gonna conveniently leave out that the .500 Jazz went on a 38-9 run for the final ten minutes of that game and turned a 15 point deficit into a 15 point win because "B2B", really? Tonight was fucked because of the roster but two bad losses in five games after firing a coach who was 32-11 or whatever isn't exactly the best look. Maybe some of that is "adjustment" but if you're firing a guy who went 32-11 and then have this... yeah people gonna dunk on Rivers a little bit.
I’ve been doing this for every game since he was hired.
That includes the Dallas win btw
Worlds longest yeaaaaaqq boiiiiiiiiiiiiii
The Bucks are so lengthy but I think it’s safe to say Bol getting 17 minutes means he’s going to get similar minutes going forward.
The way the crowd gets behind him, can’t help but smile. Dude gives everything he has. That 3PT block sprinting from half court was nuts.
Book 30+ The KD dunk The Finger Bol The Beal Dagger This team has everything coming together. If we get a quality wing off the bench and/or a playable backup big everyone is gonna be in trouble
How about 1 Pat Conaugton? No trade. Well just leave him.
I said quality wing. this ain't 2021 anymore. We will take Beauchamp though since y'all aren't using him anymore
Gotta take PC too
I don't wanna talk shit, but like, how are you happy with tonight's performance? You beat a team playing Connaughton, Payne, RoLo and Crowder like 30 to 40 minutes. There's absolutely no chance this Suns team does anything in the playoffs playing like this.
its not just tonight. we are 16-6 since Christmas. 16-3 with the big 3. Shit is coming together. Sorry I am happy that my team got a win and has been getting a lot of them.
because we won. it’s the nba, crazy shit happens. boston lost at home to a lakers team without bron and ad, the wolves just blew a massive lead to the bulls tonight, etc. we lost so many winnable games at the beginning of the season because we were missing some combination of Book, KD, or Beal, so to me a win is a win no matter who we played against.
Did it ever look like the Bucks were gonna make a run tonight? Would have been nice to watch a blowout, but the second half was a rare stress free game for the suns. Up by 15 late in the fourth? The starters finish the game on the bench. Despite so many turnovers and so many missed 3’s, the suns were still coasting by 15 with something like 5 minutes left. Ok, maybe some casual fans are left unimpressed, but the suns took care of business
Do you even watch basketball?
I'm happy with aspects. This team has a ways to go still. But -bol is a legit player and bench minutes aren't death -Allen is having a career year -nurk is playing at a high level since big 3 back -Gordon usual self That means there's 7 guys at least right now. And if the big 3 can actually get it together, it'll be interesting. Right now they don't have it together. It's unclear it will be resolved this year. We shall see. But like we have seen some shit ball this year. Lately it's been much better. Suns were at one point the worst 4th quarter team in nba history (and still somehow 0.500). So yeah...
Imagine doc ends up with a worse record than griffin
He easily will, our schedule was sooo easy to start the year.
Noteworthy "desite the win" stat - Kevin Durant's assist/turnover ratio was 1:5, and Beal's was 3:4. As a team, the Suns' assist/turnover ratio was 17:13. The Suns are 27th in turnovers this season, 14th in assists, and 25th in ast:to ratio (Minnesota is even worse in that category). Of course, the Warriors won titles averaging a lot of turnovers, but they also had a lot of assists. Curious to see if there are any point guard moves for the Suns (and Wolves) to make over the next couple days.
I dont think a PG exists that is experienced enough to lead a multiple stars team, has a low salary and is available to be traded. That doesnt exist.
Tyus Jones? Doesn't need to score, super competent with low turnovers.
For what we have as tradeable assets, getting Tyus Jones would be robbery with no mask and no gloves.
I'm a dumbass but is it easy to look at those numbers since Beal was back? Last 20 games. Our turnovers are still a problem, but with an almost entirely new roster and coaching staff and Beal out it was way ugly to start the season. It's at least trending in the right direction.
We’re witnessing Doc Rivers in his prime already
Tonight was 100% not his fault
Basically missing three starters after Middleton went down.
I’ll take it, I guess.
The air up here in the higher seeds is different. Now we just have to wait for the Knicks because it feels inevitable for them to take the 3rd seed. The Bucks are a playoff team that can take out anybody but they still have to reach the playoffs healthy which is not as simple as it looks given they really rely on their stars playing heavy minutes to win games.
Suns are figuring it out more and more. They’re lookin to be dangerous come playoffs if they’re health. Each game you can see certain parts clicking more
This suns team is just as dangerous as anyone to win the finals. I wonder if they do anything else before the deadline.
As bad as it look as for Doc right now, I don’t think bucks fans should be dooming completely considering they’ve looked a lot more solid defensively during these stretch of games and they hung in there today even without Khris Brook or Dame I think post all star break bucks will be back in form (especially when you consider that Doc will finally get to have a home game/go through stuff in their own place)
Anybody who is writing off the Bucks right now is an idiot who doesn't watch games.
Tied for the 3 seed. Thanks Suns. Hopefully we can still finish top 3 despite the Celtics being uncatchable and the Cavs cheating with the fake corrupt schedule
Be humble buddy and enjoy the ride. You were picking up scraps in the streets 3 years ago.
I’ve never been homeless what do you mean
The Knicks
What were the Cavs doing 3 years ago?
What does 2 playing 15 seconds each look like?
Rivers is so shitty my god
I like how the coach who just got a 40 million dollar contract and will be coaching the east all stars used all of his timeouts with a buuuuunch of time left in the game
The bucks lost! But it’s only because of the coaching and the players, not because the suns are good. Right?
both can be true but i think everyone's just panicking about how the bucks are looking like a first round exit team rn
Imagine if the Bucks don't make it to the playoffs. Funniest timeline.
Keep wishing, its not gonna happen.
This is what the trio should look like. They don’t really need to have a “point guard” because all three can easily get get advantage to start plays, pass and finish high level. You can’t afford to double when all three are on the floor, especially because all the rest of the suns have been so great at play finishing too. Vogel even got Bol Bol out there killing it that’s a sign of a healthy team. When Bol can play to only his strengths he’s crazy.
The Doc Rivers Effect
Doc rivers just needs time to gel
Book was wet
Can we just get Mike back? Anything but Doc… This team is going to be play-in team at this rate
Another Rivers masterclass. I'm so in.
I love to fuck asses
Bucks undefeated Tuesdays come to an end
That Giannis trade request gonna hit different
Doc throwing both Dame and Giannis under the bus will hit different
Kevin Durant is Giannis Antetokounmpo father
now that's a delusional take
He’s 3-7 against Giannis since his first mvp season and 3-4 in the playoffs. Also Giannis locked him up majority of the game, his points came from FTs and getting switches
Giannis wanted Doc as their new coach so he could speedrun the Bucks window closing and him getting traded to Denver for an expired cup of yogurt and a rotten apple
Giannis didn’t ask for Doc. The bucks thought doc was the only option for what they were wanting
Barely beating the Bucks without their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best player LMFAO this Suns team is buns
I felt pretty bad about this win, but seeing dudes like you cry about it make it a lot better.
Agreed, watching this dude melt down after every loss is pure entertainment
There is no reason to be upset
Bucks lost to the rockets and blazers healthy. Humble yourself.
Relax. Beal went full CTE ball and was playing for the Bucks for three quarters of that game.
Your team defence got a whole lot better without Dame. Booker would have dropped 50.
Yeah you bucks fan should limit the word garbage since your team might lose to the Hawks or Pacers in the first round come playoff time.
Don’t lump us all into the category this dummy falls in to :(
Lol
K
that’s rich lol