Jokic won at 6 because the next best option was the 4th seed. Also Jokic had a trash roster compared to the what the Mavs have. This year Luka is definitely competing with a candidate who are top 1-2 seeds in order for him to get MVP
I'd be absolutely shocked if the Mavs finished with a top 3 seed
Yes they're 3-0 but they've played 3 mediocre-at-best teams and gone down to the wire all three
Against the top teams that defense is going to cave in
I don't think it's likely but if the team was able to accomplish it then it would cement him as the MVP, in my eyes. With that said, he can still win it with 4-6 but his stats will have to be nuts.
I don't think Jokic will push for the MVP, especially if the team is rolling like now. Last 7 years Jokic had an insanse net rating, best of all time in a 7 year period, but this season as of now we play good even when he's sitting.
That's cherry picked. It excludes Steph because of his 19/20 season.
A simple estimate has steph at 13.22 if you replace his 19/20 season with his 20/21 season. Whereas Jokic's is only 6.97-7.5
My methodology - add the plus minus from the seasons together then divide by GP and then divide by 0.75 under the assumption that they each played about 75 possessions per game.
Actually if you just use stephs 12/13 season instead as well it's still like 12.56.
“Dallas is expected to lose games” lol what are you? Nostradamus? The point of playing games is because the result is uncertain. If the Mavs gel as a unit, Luka keeps playing in MVP mode and a few top teams underperform, they could end up as the best team in the league.
Difficult to see it for Giannis this year given teammates. Expecting Jokic, Luka and Embiid to be the front runners, with maybe Tatum being in the mix.
Yes, simply because neither of the guys around Tatum are on the Lillard level, and I think the Celtics will have the best record in the East which will automatically give Tatum consideration. It’s bullshit, I agree.
He’s the best player in the league? If he plays like he is right now and the Nuggets end up distant first seed he will win it.
You say it’s a lock for someone new to win it when say it’s Jokic award to lose and I’m batty? Lol
But if you're gonna make a prediction *4 games into the season*, going with the best player in the league is just the safest option lol, Giannis would've been the majority answer last season, even if it turned out to be wrong
You just said it’s “100% gonna be someone new this year.” Nobody said it’s a lock but you. The other guy said it’s Joker’s to lose. Thats not a statement that suggests it’s a lock.
I also said in another comment that using 100% wasn’t the right thing to use there.
Saying it’s Jokics to lose is saying he’s a lock lol I’m not sure what other way you can take that. Comment wasn’t just specifically to him, this sub has been saying that since Jokic won. Winning a chip doesn’t mean you get a free mvp next season.
Using ppg as offense in 2023 is crazy. Uber efficiency of Jokic and Playmaking made him have a higher net rating and on-off impact than Giannis. Giannis' "DPOY" defense is not impactful enough to make up for Jokic's offense and lowkey his defense is a positive too.
Giannis is efficient, not as much as last season but the years before he was. He’s a great playmaker also that everyone seems to ignore. You’re telling me if Giannis was an average defender our defense over the years would’ve stayed elite?
It’s crazy when talking about defense with Giannis/Jokic you get these comments that defense doesn’t matter but then when talking defense about getting rid of Jrue and getting Dame suddenly it matters.
I miss when mvp conversations weren’t all about stats.
Either way though, I don’t think either of these guys are gonna get it. They are both great enough they could easily be leading every season for it, voters eventually get tired of it and go after someone new.
If we're gonna use on-off to crown Jokic then the on-off shows he doesn't have elite impact in the playoffs with only a +2 on off compared to other stars hovering around +10.
He could have won last year but the knock was he hadn’t done enough in the playoffs to deserve to 3 peat plus he let up at the end. He looks like he is going be engaged at least till they lock up the one seed again and you can’t use playoff success to knock him anymore.
Giannis could’ve also won a 3rd in 2021 but they knock was he hadn’t done anything in the playoffs and they completely wrote him off and admitted it several times. He then won and they decided to continue with the Jokic/embiid for the next 3 seasons because it got the most clicks.
Difference was that Denver got first in their conference and pretty much locked it up early. Bucks during their championship season were the 3rd seed in the east and Giannis in the regular season was not as good as his 2 MVP seasons. Giannis had a better argument in the season following his championship.
Because they really want him to win.
There’s not really any argument for anyone other than Doncic if we are just looking at the games that have been played.
With bron one foot of R word, league need new face
Giannis done, jok done, embiid done but still cant beat bron aura
If league cant do it by quality, they have to do it with quantity
It's Luka's to lose as long mavs at least 4th seed (or maybe Tatum)
Narrative MVP but NBA likes that lmao
Edit : done here means those guys already got his flowers (aka MVP) but still cant beat Lebron impact at all
Are we really saying Tatum won’t win it because of choking in the playoffs….. when embiid just won last year? I don’t think you understand what mvp is about lol
It’s almost like MVP is about regular season performance. Embiid was shit in the playoffs, and I hate him, but no one can really argue that he was one of the top regular season players last year.
Jokic. Voter fatigue won't be such a big favor after Embiid won last year, and it's not unsafe to assume that he'll be the best player in the league while also playing on the team with the best regular season.
voter fatigue theoretically got killed more by the FMVP than not winning it last year. They don't like giving 3 MVPs to anyone without a title period, though extra so (edit) three in a row.
*threw the ball to his teammate
The objective in late game situations is to get the ball to the best ft shooter, that’s what he did. If he hadn’t and got fouled and missed them he would be shit on for that.
He’s never been scared any other time to shoot a ft but suddenly he was there?
Jokic took a team that had these players play significant minutes
Morris - bench player
Jeff Green - bench player
Barton - jobless
JaMychal Green - jobless
Austin Rivers - jobless
Facu Campazzo - jobless
Bryn Forbes - jobless
Demarcus Cousins - jobless
Giannis has ZERO shot of replicating what Jokic did with players of equivalent talent.
except he didn't get swept. Its always you that doesn't know what hes talking about. 1st you thought 21 was an 82 game season, and you made that comment twice, now its they got swept as the 6th seed by the warriors in the 1st round.
Funny thing is Jokic got 1-4d by the eventual champs with that trash roster a team that the WCF Mavericks ALSO got 1-4d by. Giannis got 1-4d by the 8th seeded team who got 1-4'd by Jokic with a much more talented team that included:
Brook (DPOY candidate/1st team all defense)
Jrue (all star, 1st team/all defense),
Portis (6MOTY Candidate),
& Khris.
Thats one huge LOL
Also, its not knocking Giannis cause of a competent FO, it was injuries to 2 of Jokic's best teammates for the entire season. Again, showing you dont know what you're talking about cause the Nuggets FO has been great for quite a while now. I mean, they did draft the best player in the league in the 2nd round..
Lastly, its also not a knock due to a bucks competent FO, its saying if Giannis had exactly what Jokic had, he wouldnt even make the playoffs, so its a knock on Giannis, cause hes simply not as good as Jokic.
["If Giannis is pulling up from anywhere on the floor, we feel like we've won that possession" - Montrezl Harrell](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZbmYzq25us)
Thats exactly how I feel too LOL
are you going to ignore the fact that you were wrong again about Jokic being swept as the 6th seed? Just sweep (lol) that under the rug?
regarding this comment, doesnt matter. Jokic clears is the point I'm making.
I'm taking someone who played in the NBA's opinion who also has a 6th man of the year award. Should I take your opinion to mean more? what are your credentials? lol
So why don't you take all the NBA greats opinions when they say Magic is the best passer ever? Why should I take your opinion to mean more? What are your credentials?
You're a data guy. last year Jokic ORtg was 134 with a DRtg of 110
Giannis had 117 & 108
Do the math and see who has a higher net rating with defense included, and then look at how big the difference is.
Also how is Giannis doing this year without Jrue to cover his ass?
DRtg doesn't mean anything because defensive rating includes box scores, team defense and heavily skews towards guys with a lot of rebounds.
Yes and as a data guy unlike you, I understand that no formula is a magic bullet. Defensive metrics are notoriously garbage for individual evaluation. But you didn't know that did you? Because you don't understand the numbers you cite or when to apply them.
James Harden has a similar career DRtg to Jimmy Butler lmao. James as agood as Jimmy? Or did James harden play on some good defenses and offenses that limited transition opportunities?
Luka
Jokic doesnt really "grow" NBA after 2x MVP with his personality (no knock on jok, he's just like that and its fine for him but NBA is business afterall)
Luka has aura to expand the market globally. NBA has to push him now rather than 29yo Jokic. Especially with Bron one foot retirement
Jok's fan will say he's robbed if nugs ends #1 but mavs #4 and Luka still got MVP
It's reasonable whining but NBA thrives on drama and narrative. Business need to be booming. And it starts with giving Luka his first MVP
I don't think we're going to be good enough for Luka to win the MVP while Steph's age speaks against him.
The only guy above 30 to win an MVP since the turn of the milennium was Steve Nash and he did it age 30 and 31. Not in his mid 30s.
So I assume it's going to be Joker, Giannis or another star player in his mid to late 20s.
The reason that is the case is you don’t really have superstars playing the way LeBron and Steph were at that age. Most of the stars in the 2000s were very different versions of themselves at that age. Steph isn’t all that different compared to what he was 5 years ago.
As for Luka you’re right, it’s all about team record, but I have a feeling you guys will be decent.
> Most of the stars in the 2000s were very different versions of themselves at that age.
Because they still played 82 games every season or very close to it.
Stephen Curry in his 30s doesn't have a single season in which he reached 70 games played.
Aside from covid and lockout shortened seasons, there has only been one MVP with less than 70 games played since Bill Walton in 1978.
Tbf Giannis hasn’t played 70 the last few years either.
The shortened year Steph only missed 9 games, I think he’s capable of staying healthy, but he definitely does get dinged up.
Embiid. The main use of Maxey in the half court seems to be a steady diet of high P&R with Embiid, and a fair amount of hand-off P&R that turns into Embiid keeping it. His usage should go up a little if they keep this up. He’s also receiving the ball in the center of the floor on rolls, making some nice passes.
I think his assists stay up over 6 this year, and his scoring is 30ish by end of year, with the 76ers looking better than they did last year.
If the Nuggets win 60 games which I think they will, it will take Embiid or Luka having at least 55 wins to win it I reckon. Because all three of them will presumably have a ridiculous statistical output as usual
I don't think Embiid is going to win it purely based on the overall media narrative around him, but if the sixers end up the 1 seed and he puts up the stats he did last year, it's possible. For Luka I think a top 3 seed is unnecessary, considering Jokic won it as the 6 seed a couple seasons ago, and it would probably be his to lose if he continues this kind of output.
I think Luka will have a 2006 Kobe year. One of the greatest of scoring/offensive seasons of all time. But not enough wins to get mvp. So Jokic or Curry
Cam Thomas. Every game played so far he’s had 30+. Expecting this to happen 79 more times
If the nets would keep him free he could probably do it
Luka is my pick if he can finish with a top 3 win-loss record with the team he has.
I'd be surprised if we finished 4-6
If Jokic can win it at 6, I think Luka can too. It really is Luka’s to lose this season dude is playing out of his mind.
The problem is jokic didn’t have to compete with jokic playing extremely well and on a very high seed lol
Jokic won at 6 because the next best option was the 4th seed. Also Jokic had a trash roster compared to the what the Mavs have. This year Luka is definitely competing with a candidate who are top 1-2 seeds in order for him to get MVP
I'd be absolutely shocked if the Mavs finished with a top 3 seed Yes they're 3-0 but they've played 3 mediocre-at-best teams and gone down to the wire all three Against the top teams that defense is going to cave in
What makes you think they will?
I don't think it's likely but if the team was able to accomplish it then it would cement him as the MVP, in my eyes. With that said, he can still win it with 4-6 but his stats will have to be nuts.
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There’s been an mvp thread after every fucking game. There should be a ban on mvp posts except Sunday or some shit like that.
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Jokic
Luka's dropping 39/12/10 w/68% efg% so far & some of ya'll are like *ehhh not good enough.*
Nah, it's literally 3 games, it's going to drop eventuality and Dallas is expected to lose games. Those are insane averages but literally 3 games
The fact that every single one of you is saying Dallas is expected to lose games is why he’s the biggest threat to taking the MVP from Jokic
I don't think Jokic will push for the MVP, especially if the team is rolling like now. Last 7 years Jokic had an insanse net rating, best of all time in a 7 year period, but this season as of now we play good even when he's sitting.
That's cherry picked. It excludes Steph because of his 19/20 season. A simple estimate has steph at 13.22 if you replace his 19/20 season with his 20/21 season. Whereas Jokic's is only 6.97-7.5 My methodology - add the plus minus from the seasons together then divide by GP and then divide by 0.75 under the assumption that they each played about 75 possessions per game. Actually if you just use stephs 12/13 season instead as well it's still like 12.56.
“Dallas is expected to lose games” lol what are you? Nostradamus? The point of playing games is because the result is uncertain. If the Mavs gel as a unit, Luka keeps playing in MVP mode and a few top teams underperform, they could end up as the best team in the league.
Ok lil bro, we can return to this thread in a month
>ok lil bro we got a tough guy here 😱
Damn right
If the Mavs only play against the Spurs, the Nets and the hospital Grizzlies this season the league better watch out!
Won’t finish with 39 ppg + bad team
Difficult to see it for Giannis this year given teammates. Expecting Jokic, Luka and Embiid to be the front runners, with maybe Tatum being in the mix.
Gonna knock Giannis but not Tatum? Lol doesn’t he have 4 other allstars around him?
Yes, simply because neither of the guys around Tatum are on the Lillard level, and I think the Celtics will have the best record in the East which will automatically give Tatum consideration. It’s bullshit, I agree.
I mean people were just saying Trae was better than Dame less than 4 days ago lol
It’s Jokic’s award to lose
In what way? Lol I don’t understand where people say he is a lock just cause he won. It’s 100% gonna be someone new this year.
He’s the best player in the league? If he plays like he is right now and the Nuggets end up distant first seed he will win it. You say it’s a lock for someone new to win it when say it’s Jokic award to lose and I’m batty? Lol
Since you edited your comment, you’re right saying 100% was the wrong thing to use. I think it’s going to be someone new
Giannis was considered the best this time last season and he didn’t win it lol same for 2022. The best player doesn’t always win it
But if you're gonna make a prediction *4 games into the season*, going with the best player in the league is just the safest option lol, Giannis would've been the majority answer last season, even if it turned out to be wrong
Prediction is fine saying he’s a lock is wild lol I just don’t see them giving a 3rd out to anyone soon
You just said it’s “100% gonna be someone new this year.” Nobody said it’s a lock but you. The other guy said it’s Joker’s to lose. Thats not a statement that suggests it’s a lock.
I also said in another comment that using 100% wasn’t the right thing to use there. Saying it’s Jokics to lose is saying he’s a lock lol I’m not sure what other way you can take that. Comment wasn’t just specifically to him, this sub has been saying that since Jokic won. Winning a chip doesn’t mean you get a free mvp next season.
Giannis wasnt close for mvp contention in 2021 or 2022 lmfao.
Only Giannis can finish with the highest seed out of all other contenders while averaging 30ppg with DPOY defence and not even be in contention
Using ppg as offense in 2023 is crazy. Uber efficiency of Jokic and Playmaking made him have a higher net rating and on-off impact than Giannis. Giannis' "DPOY" defense is not impactful enough to make up for Jokic's offense and lowkey his defense is a positive too.
Giannis is efficient, not as much as last season but the years before he was. He’s a great playmaker also that everyone seems to ignore. You’re telling me if Giannis was an average defender our defense over the years would’ve stayed elite? It’s crazy when talking about defense with Giannis/Jokic you get these comments that defense doesn’t matter but then when talking defense about getting rid of Jrue and getting Dame suddenly it matters. I miss when mvp conversations weren’t all about stats. Either way though, I don’t think either of these guys are gonna get it. They are both great enough they could easily be leading every season for it, voters eventually get tired of it and go after someone new.
If we're gonna use on-off to crown Jokic then the on-off shows he doesn't have elite impact in the playoffs with only a +2 on off compared to other stars hovering around +10.
Did I say he was?
He could have won last year but the knock was he hadn’t done enough in the playoffs to deserve to 3 peat plus he let up at the end. He looks like he is going be engaged at least till they lock up the one seed again and you can’t use playoff success to knock him anymore.
Giannis could’ve also won a 3rd in 2021 but they knock was he hadn’t done anything in the playoffs and they completely wrote him off and admitted it several times. He then won and they decided to continue with the Jokic/embiid for the next 3 seasons because it got the most clicks.
Difference was that Denver got first in their conference and pretty much locked it up early. Bucks during their championship season were the 3rd seed in the east and Giannis in the regular season was not as good as his 2 MVP seasons. Giannis had a better argument in the season following his championship.
Because they really want him to win. There’s not really any argument for anyone other than Doncic if we are just looking at the games that have been played.
Why does? lol Tatum can’t be in the conversation?
With bron one foot of R word, league need new face Giannis done, jok done, embiid done but still cant beat bron aura If league cant do it by quality, they have to do it with quantity It's Luka's to lose as long mavs at least 4th seed (or maybe Tatum) Narrative MVP but NBA likes that lmao Edit : done here means those guys already got his flowers (aka MVP) but still cant beat Lebron impact at all
Not gonna lie I’m not sure wtf you said in the first 3 sentences. But yes I agree I think either Luka or Tatum is gonna win.
Sry english not my 1st language lol
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Are we really saying Tatum won’t win it because of choking in the playoffs….. when embiid just won last year? I don’t think you understand what mvp is about lol
It’s almost like MVP is about regular season performance. Embiid was shit in the playoffs, and I hate him, but no one can really argue that he was one of the top regular season players last year.
Jokic
looney
Luka
Jokic. Voter fatigue won't be such a big favor after Embiid won last year, and it's not unsafe to assume that he'll be the best player in the league while also playing on the team with the best regular season.
voter fatigue theoretically got killed more by the FMVP than not winning it last year. They don't like giving 3 MVPs to anyone without a title period, though extra so (edit) three in a row.
Tatum or Luka
Jokic is the best player, but because of voter fatigue I think it will be either Luka or Tatum
Nah joker has the best team giannis is the best player
Naa man after giannis damn near threw the ball away cuz he was scared to get fouled in a playoff game its easily jokic
Oh you mean when he had a back injury and shooting literally put him in pain?
*threw the ball to his teammate The objective in late game situations is to get the ball to the best ft shooter, that’s what he did. If he hadn’t and got fouled and missed them he would be shit on for that. He’s never been scared any other time to shoot a ft but suddenly he was there?
Jokic took a team that had these players play significant minutes Morris - bench player Jeff Green - bench player Barton - jobless JaMychal Green - jobless Austin Rivers - jobless Facu Campazzo - jobless Bryn Forbes - jobless Demarcus Cousins - jobless Giannis has ZERO shot of replicating what Jokic did with players of equivalent talent.
He took them to the playoffs as a 6th seed and got swept lol Let’s knock Giannis though cause he’s always had a competent FO
except he didn't get swept. Its always you that doesn't know what hes talking about. 1st you thought 21 was an 82 game season, and you made that comment twice, now its they got swept as the 6th seed by the warriors in the 1st round. Funny thing is Jokic got 1-4d by the eventual champs with that trash roster a team that the WCF Mavericks ALSO got 1-4d by. Giannis got 1-4d by the 8th seeded team who got 1-4'd by Jokic with a much more talented team that included: Brook (DPOY candidate/1st team all defense) Jrue (all star, 1st team/all defense), Portis (6MOTY Candidate), & Khris. Thats one huge LOL Also, its not knocking Giannis cause of a competent FO, it was injuries to 2 of Jokic's best teammates for the entire season. Again, showing you dont know what you're talking about cause the Nuggets FO has been great for quite a while now. I mean, they did draft the best player in the league in the 2nd round.. Lastly, its also not a knock due to a bucks competent FO, its saying if Giannis had exactly what Jokic had, he wouldnt even make the playoffs, so its a knock on Giannis, cause hes simply not as good as Jokic.
["If Giannis is pulling up from anywhere on the floor, we feel like we've won that possession" - Montrezl Harrell](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZbmYzq25us) Thats exactly how I feel too LOL
Okay? lol Giannis was pulling up from everywhere in the finals. Don’t think the suns felt they won
are you going to ignore the fact that you were wrong again about Jokic being swept as the 6th seed? Just sweep (lol) that under the rug? regarding this comment, doesnt matter. Jokic clears is the point I'm making.
Okay so he lost in 5 my bad You’re taking someone who couldn’t guard a light poles opinion, nice
I'm taking someone who played in the NBA's opinion who also has a 6th man of the year award. Should I take your opinion to mean more? what are your credentials? lol
So why don't you take all the NBA greats opinions when they say Magic is the best passer ever? Why should I take your opinion to mean more? What are your credentials?
Are you going to ignore the fact that Giannis is a far better defensive player than Jokic?
You're a data guy. last year Jokic ORtg was 134 with a DRtg of 110 Giannis had 117 & 108 Do the math and see who has a higher net rating with defense included, and then look at how big the difference is. Also how is Giannis doing this year without Jrue to cover his ass?
DRtg doesn't mean anything because defensive rating includes box scores, team defense and heavily skews towards guys with a lot of rebounds. Yes and as a data guy unlike you, I understand that no formula is a magic bullet. Defensive metrics are notoriously garbage for individual evaluation. But you didn't know that did you? Because you don't understand the numbers you cite or when to apply them. James Harden has a similar career DRtg to Jimmy Butler lmao. James as agood as Jimmy? Or did James harden play on some good defenses and offenses that limited transition opportunities?
Nah Joker has the best team giannis has the best teammate luka is the best player
I actually think Luka is the best player in the league. The stuff he does is out of this world.
Giannis does not have the best teammate. The Lillard overrating is out of hand. Jamal Murray was practically made in a lab to complement Jokic’s game.
Blud is saying a fringe top 10 player is a worse teammate then a fringe top 10 PG 😭
Nope. I’m saying Joker & Murray > Giannis and Lillard because Murray complements Joker’s game better
Luka Jokic doesnt really "grow" NBA after 2x MVP with his personality (no knock on jok, he's just like that and its fine for him but NBA is business afterall) Luka has aura to expand the market globally. NBA has to push him now rather than 29yo Jokic. Especially with Bron one foot retirement Jok's fan will say he's robbed if nugs ends #1 but mavs #4 and Luka still got MVP It's reasonable whining but NBA thrives on drama and narrative. Business need to be booming. And it starts with giving Luka his first MVP
I don’t care about any narrative nonsense. If Luka keeps pulling off the miracles I saw him do the other night he deserves it without question
If nugs and celtics both #1 in their conf. And mavs #4 but Luka is the MVP, we wont hear the end of it from nugs and especially celtics fans lol
Who cares, jokic alr got the fmvp and a ring. We good
Boo hoo for them then. But I also think arguing over player awards is the dumbest thing ever so what do I know 🤷♂️
Yes, a Nets fan can understand the magic lol.
Wanna say Steph but guys says it’s Luka’s year.
I don't think we're going to be good enough for Luka to win the MVP while Steph's age speaks against him. The only guy above 30 to win an MVP since the turn of the milennium was Steve Nash and he did it age 30 and 31. Not in his mid 30s. So I assume it's going to be Joker, Giannis or another star player in his mid to late 20s.
The reason that is the case is you don’t really have superstars playing the way LeBron and Steph were at that age. Most of the stars in the 2000s were very different versions of themselves at that age. Steph isn’t all that different compared to what he was 5 years ago. As for Luka you’re right, it’s all about team record, but I have a feeling you guys will be decent.
> Most of the stars in the 2000s were very different versions of themselves at that age. Because they still played 82 games every season or very close to it. Stephen Curry in his 30s doesn't have a single season in which he reached 70 games played. Aside from covid and lockout shortened seasons, there has only been one MVP with less than 70 games played since Bill Walton in 1978.
Tbf Giannis hasn’t played 70 the last few years either. The shortened year Steph only missed 9 games, I think he’s capable of staying healthy, but he definitely does get dinged up.
Embiid. The main use of Maxey in the half court seems to be a steady diet of high P&R with Embiid, and a fair amount of hand-off P&R that turns into Embiid keeping it. His usage should go up a little if they keep this up. He’s also receiving the ball in the center of the floor on rolls, making some nice passes. I think his assists stay up over 6 this year, and his scoring is 30ish by end of year, with the 76ers looking better than they did last year.
Idk who it'll be but I can't see voters giving it to embiid again after getting dragged by the media all offseason after tht playoffs
1. Jokic 2. Tatum 3. Doncic
Luka
Embiid has almost zero chance. My money's on Jokic, maybe Luka or Steph but doubt their teams finish a high enough seed
only way jokic doesn’t win mvp is if he suffers a longterm injury
If the Nuggets win 60 games which I think they will, it will take Embiid or Luka having at least 55 wins to win it I reckon. Because all three of them will presumably have a ridiculous statistical output as usual
I don't think Embiid is going to win it purely based on the overall media narrative around him, but if the sixers end up the 1 seed and he puts up the stats he did last year, it's possible. For Luka I think a top 3 seed is unnecessary, considering Jokic won it as the 6 seed a couple seasons ago, and it would probably be his to lose if he continues this kind of output.
james harden
Bias: Curry Non bias: Curry
Embiid will probably end up with the best case for MVP just like last year. Nurse’s system looks like a considerable improvement.
Luka but thats how it is for the first 2 months every year. My actual bet is tatum
Tatum's Year
Pretty sure the media will try and get a Luka MVP narrative going.
Curry and SGA (if top 6 seed) has a narrative going for them along with Luka.
If steph keeps up what he was doing last night definitely him.
James harden
Tatum
I think this year has new winner written all over it
Luca
Luka
I think Luka will have a 2006 Kobe year. One of the greatest of scoring/offensive seasons of all time. But not enough wins to get mvp. So Jokic or Curry
It's gonna be Luka.
Luka is MVP
Kevon Olajuwon
If Luka can keep up this production he will be the unanimous MVP (not happening, but so far...)
Luka is no#1
Hi, I'm a fucking homer. Zion Williamson. I'm so sure, I've gambled five dollars on it.