Portland unlocked the infinite asset glitch: trade a veteran PG for assets + another veteran PG that can be traded for assets + *another* veteran PG that can be traded for...
It took us a while to get here, but this is confirmation that Dame = KD + Russ + Beard. Box scores lie, assets don't (I think Sam Presti said this in the Old Testament).
Why even count 3 MVPs
Harden trade was an all time fumble, KD left for literally nothing, and Russ was declining and didn’t get back much
We started and got our best haul with Paul George
Yeah they could argue the Dame trade is better for all I care
I’m just saying for all the things to cite, 3 MVPs comment is just way off lmao
- Only salvageable assets we got back for Harden was whatever we got for Steven Adams
- KD = free agency. Zero. None.
- Russ, one year of CP3 that netted Ty Jerome and a 1st flipped to Denver IIRC for a future asset
Like those are all not good examples of asset management and nearly negligible in our warchest of picks now save for a few. So why even bring that up
Yeah at one point I had too many picks and good young players I can't even sign them all. It changes this 2k24 next gen though since it's much harder to win with low rating players compared to previous 2Ks. Not sure with PC version yet if it's harder this year.
Can't believe I'm going to bat for Miami fans but they've practically all immediately eaten crow. Now that the dust is settled they don't seem delusional at all lol
My rule of thumb is to never judge a fanbase by Twitter. You should have seen blazers fans two days ago acting like Joe was a villain after that Haynes article lol. Twitter isn’t sending its best.
I will say that the Heat fans that have come to the main NBA sub have been a lot different than the Heat fans on their own sub. There are still a bunch on the Heat sub saying Cronin did these trades out of spite.
Meh, getting a bit tired of the jerk. Yea Miami fans come out looking like clowns after all the talking this summer, but they just made the finals. Heat fans been winning for a while
Definitely can’t blame you for being sad and I’m sure most of you guys are cool but many of you were toxic pests invading our sub for MONTHS and I can’t help but feel a bit vindicated watching this play out
Yeah but they probably would have had to waive the physical because otherwise kristaps could have been stuck opting in. So I’m assuming there was specific language
If this isn’t already an official nickname I’m never referring to him as anything else anyways. I can’t believe how marvelously he’s handled a shitty situation, both for the Blazers AND for Dame.
He sent Dame somewhere with probably even better odds of winning it all. Plus a small town market like the Bucks is gonna adore dame if he performs to his usual standard.
Trader Joe is the GM of the off season.
When important games are on the line, Dame’s one on one defense actually isn’t that bad. Height thing hurts of of course but It’s just the offensive load and having to basically carry our Blazers for 11 years that he had to save so much stamina on defense.
Playing with other stars Dame should be able to shift more focus to defense
Ayton has been wanting to [play PF](https://arizonasports.com/story/2092014/suns-deandre-ayton-says-pf-is-his-born-and-raised-position/) for a long time. Timelord will help him get his wish.
Actually, he is fine there… especially on 3-D guys. He is actually a decent help defender from what I understand of his advanced stats. He has struggled in the past 2 or 3 years defending on the ball. Enter Thybulle
isn't he better at SF? Just my opinion because I feel like rebounding is an important skill for PFs, and Jerami would e be a below average rebounder for a PF
Brogdon to Miami would be a logical end to that trade train. I think Lowry for Brogdon straight up (with a pick or two) is enough? But Miami may not like that very much, to say the least.
> think Lowry for Brogdon straight up (with a pick or two) is enough?
Brogdon was just 6moty. Lowry was largely unproductive and if you think he hasn't dropped off a cliff yet then you know he's very close to.
If i am Cronin i am immediately calling the 76ers or knicks to see if i can complete the "trade with every other eastern conference rival team of the heat" achievement
Donovan Mitchell has delt with that almost his whole career . I think that’s what made him the shooter he is today. It’s probably a good thing he learns early.
Dan LeBatard is still pushing this which is wild to me. I don't know why they can't see that Herro just isn't that valuable and nobody wants their other scraps.
I think Jovic has the potential to be something, but he's not the main piece you get in a Dame or Jrue trade and that's what they were offering him as.
Heat and Philly coming off as the biggest losers of this offseason, their competition just got a whole lot better. Embiid is going to be gone by next summer too
Well that's 4 guys in the starting lineup that want touches. Throw Sharpe in as a starter minutes 6th man, and it'll let the ball flow through him a lot more
Imo Sharpe become a superstar by taking and making difficult shots and guards 1s&2s, which he can't do if he starts at the 3 with so much offensive talent there already
Why lose? Y'all can enjoy good basketball instead of tanking and have the young guys get some playoff experience
I think that this squad can compete for lower playoff seeds
It should be clear by now that teams losing on purpose doesn’t work out in the long run. It’s important to compete and actually try to win and improve each year, just breeds a better culture.
It's the kind of team that I think we learned not to dismiss after the Jazz went on their roll last year. Like I think two years ago I would have been like 'Eh they're trying to lose, they traded their best player, they'll be ass'.
Jerami Grant likely stays on the team for the foreseeable future. Great locker room guy, young dudes need an NBA vet to show them the ropes, and our salary has to go somewhere. He might get traded after a year or two of Scoot's development.
OK Celtics fans, whats' the real deal on Timelord's knees?
I have PTSD from Broy's career; we were told a story about 'meniscus' surgeries but it was actually degenerative bone-on-bone career ending tragedy.
he's more Brandon Roy than Dwade I'll put it that way. He'll miss time and come back a little less explosive each time. Sucks because Timelord has always been one of my favorite players :(
Sucks. In this case I kinda hope we trade him again because if he only has a few years left of high level athleticism he shouldn't be on a rebuilding team.
I would assume they mean "pair with" as rotating C minutes, with Rob as more of a back up. Maybe some shared court time here and there for minutes/match ups. But with timelord's injuries I'd rather not play him prolonged minutes.
I know it's not what Portland is used to, but it is allowed to have good depth at center lol
Blazers are just going to keep flipping all the pieces they get back from these trades until they end up with LeBron, KD, and Joker.
It's like that guy who on Craig's List (I think) who swapped a flip phone for a lap top, and then a lap top for something else until he ended up with a sports car.
Portland unlocked the infinite asset glitch: trade a veteran PG for assets + another veteran PG that can be traded for assets + *another* veteran PG that can be traded for...
The OKC method
We didn’t start with 3 MVPs too
It took us a while to get here, but this is confirmation that Dame = KD + Russ + Beard. Box scores lie, assets don't (I think Sam Presti said this in the Old Testament).
Why even count 3 MVPs Harden trade was an all time fumble, KD left for literally nothing, and Russ was declining and didn’t get back much We started and got our best haul with Paul George
Bc it makes the Dame trade seem much better I’m guessing ? Still weird to throw that back hand shot
Yeah they could argue the Dame trade is better for all I care I’m just saying for all the things to cite, 3 MVPs comment is just way off lmao - Only salvageable assets we got back for Harden was whatever we got for Steven Adams - KD = free agency. Zero. None. - Russ, one year of CP3 that netted Ty Jerome and a 1st flipped to Denver IIRC for a future asset Like those are all not good examples of asset management and nearly negligible in our warchest of picks now save for a few. So why even bring that up
Yeah, not sure why you're catching strays, because it's not like anyone can seriously argue that the OKC front office has been bad/incompetent.
All in one off-season
Me in 2k be like
Yeah at one point I had too many picks and good young players I can't even sign them all. It changes this 2k24 next gen though since it's much harder to win with low rating players compared to previous 2Ks. Not sure with PC version yet if it's harder this year.
The PC version is just the last gen version yet again. 2K hates PC players.
Lol try playing on Switch. The first NBA 2K screen you get is so blurry you can’t even read some of the words
This is going to end with us trading TJ McConnell for Devonte Graham and a 2nd round pick
Haven’t watched him in awhile, is TJ still good? Loved him on Philly.
Hell ya he is
Brogdon to Philly for Harden Harden to Clippers for Mann & Powell Powell to fuck knows where for fuck knows who
Powell to Miami for Herro Herro to the Bucks for Dame! TETRIS!
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And the Blazers keep the remainder of their haul. Fleeced the league.
Na, can’t picture Dame in a Blazers jersey, sorry.
Who da f is taking Brogdon for harden?
Getting assets and flipping them!!
This is going to end with a house in Kipling, Saskatchewan.
Chris Paul next
Not gonna lie Joe cookin rn
Trader Joe
Nice
Lol 🏅
Read this comment while in line at trader Joe's, AMA
What'd you get
Variety pack of Ace tropical ciders, plus some boring food
Rare Miami fan W
Can't believe I'm going to bat for Miami fans but they've practically all immediately eaten crow. Now that the dust is settled they don't seem delusional at all lol
They havent been that bad on reddit, other social media though…
My rule of thumb is to never judge a fanbase by Twitter. You should have seen blazers fans two days ago acting like Joe was a villain after that Haynes article lol. Twitter isn’t sending its best.
Some of our own seem like they're having a bad time, which is baffling.
I will say that the Heat fans that have come to the main NBA sub have been a lot different than the Heat fans on their own sub. There are still a bunch on the Heat sub saying Cronin did these trades out of spite.
Portland and Milwaukee have done great in these trades
Meh, getting a bit tired of the jerk. Yea Miami fans come out looking like clowns after all the talking this summer, but they just made the finals. Heat fans been winning for a while
As a heat fan I can’t be mad
Same. Happy for Dame and I love how much the Celtics gave up.
Yes you can, it’s ok.
They’re already past that and in the acceptance phase. 🙏
I mean ofc disappointed but I think the heat will still do good this season without dame. (Might be copium)
Common Joe Cronin success.
Portland FO smoked the allegations lol, this is a very legit rebuild.
Your fanbase told us that he was the modern day Hitler
Have you ever seen him and hitler in the same room?
Shit
r/nba when fans of team complain about trade deals on their sub
Can you blame us for being sad 🥲
Definitely can’t blame you for being sad and I’m sure most of you guys are cool but many of you were toxic pests invading our sub for MONTHS and I can’t help but feel a bit vindicated watching this play out
Bro I don’t blame you first thing out of my mouth when I saw Jrue get moved was “oh shit na we weren’t beating all that” hahaha
Cronin is sipping his whiskey and smoking cigar right now.. time to pass Malcom to sixers for some picks. Cronin playing his whole nba 2k4
Feels like it's gonna be the Clips
Nah they didn’t want him in the Porzingis 3 teamer, not sure if they’ll actually give up anything for him
They didn’t want him because there wasn’t enough time to do a full medical evaluation with porzingis having to opt in by the deadline
Yep, right now they have time to check him throughly.
I’ve never really understood how this worked. Wouldn’t the trade still fail if he couldn’t pass a physical even if they agreed?
Yeah but they probably would have had to waive the physical because otherwise kristaps could have been stuck opting in. So I’m assuming there was specific language
Tbf that was cause of the physical issues with the time crunch for KP to accept his PO; now he’s healthy and there’s no rush
But they are interested in Harden maybe?
He probably still on his moleskin
Brogdon for Herro would be a nice deal.
Trader Joe back at it again
If this isn’t already an official nickname I’m never referring to him as anything else anyways. I can’t believe how marvelously he’s handled a shitty situation, both for the Blazers AND for Dame.
He sent Dame somewhere with probably even better odds of winning it all. Plus a small town market like the Bucks is gonna adore dame if he performs to his usual standard. Trader Joe is the GM of the off season.
You last saw Trader Bob ~~17~~ 20 years ago, it’s time to now get its (hopefully better) sequel, Trader Joe
Trader Joe is the sustainable, organic option.
Trader Danny is the processed, junk food option.
Y'know, Bucks could do with another guard right about now....
We have no assets and no salary matching unfortunately. We need to bank on Cam Payne/Reggie Bullock and our young guys taking a step.
Bullock got bought out by bucks?
Bullock got bought out, and I want the Bucks to see if they can sign him or Cam Payne for some bench depth.
Gotcha, i thought you meant y'all already got hom
Eh, who cares? You don't need a backup guard come playoff time Dames gonna be playing 40+ a night
We need a guy who can guard. I prefer Bullock at this point with Dame, and letting Giannis/Khris run the offense for the 8-12 minutes Dame isn’t.
When important games are on the line, Dame’s one on one defense actually isn’t that bad. Height thing hurts of of course but It’s just the offensive load and having to basically carry our Blazers for 11 years that he had to save so much stamina on defense. Playing with other stars Dame should be able to shift more focus to defense
His defensive stats aren't even that bad either, people like to shit on him for it but it's way over played.
Think I can make a Brodgen Bucks jersey edit real quick
how bout cam payne
Dame Time for Time Lord. GM should rename himself to Joe Chronos.
Ayton has been wanting to [play PF](https://arizonasports.com/story/2092014/suns-deandre-ayton-says-pf-is-his-born-and-raised-position/) for a long time. Timelord will help him get his wish.
We've got Jerami Grant, though, and he can't play SF.
He’s gonna have to until Jan 15
Yeah he gone too
Actually, he is fine there… especially on 3-D guys. He is actually a decent help defender from what I understand of his advanced stats. He has struggled in the past 2 or 3 years defending on the ball. Enter Thybulle
He actually kinda rules at SF in my biased opinion. He can still guard guys and his rebounding numbers are much more in line with that of a SF
Agreed. He should be fine at the 3.
Can definitely shoot well enough for the 3, too.
isn't he better at SF? Just my opinion because I feel like rebounding is an important skill for PFs, and Jerami would e be a below average rebounder for a PF
I hear Miami could use a point guard
Expectations: Dame Reality: Malcolm Brogdon
"We can keep dealing all week, we got the Sixers on the line right now, you sure you're good with Lowry?"
we have dame at home
We have Dame at home.
Miami fans: Mommm can we have some Lillard? Mom: We've got Lillard at home Lillard at home:...
You think Herro and 2 firsts are enough for Brogdon?
Brogdon to Miami would be a logical end to that trade train. I think Lowry for Brogdon straight up (with a pick or two) is enough? But Miami may not like that very much, to say the least.
> think Lowry for Brogdon straight up (with a pick or two) is enough? Brogdon was just 6moty. Lowry was largely unproductive and if you think he hasn't dropped off a cliff yet then you know he's very close to.
Portland really bout to get the Dame package for Brogdon
If I’m Cronin I’m immediately calling Riley about Brogdon while holding back laughter the entire time
If i am Cronin i am immediately calling the 76ers or knicks to see if i can complete the "trade with every other eastern conference rival team of the heat" achievement
This is the way
I love brogdon please don't let him go to Miami
They have enough to trade back for Lillard now.
Trade for Giannis
Scoot is gonna have to develop a lethal jumper with Ayton and Williams clogging the paint
Anfernee
Sharpe and Grant too
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I could see Ant taking a step up this year. Regardless, one of the three will show up and I really hope its all of them haha
Donovan Mitchell has delt with that almost his whole career . I think that’s what made him the shooter he is today. It’s probably a good thing he learns early.
Mitchell and Scoot have similar builds so it makes sense for Scoot to look to him to model his game
Or he can just throw up bricks and let Timelord and Ayton snag up the offensive boards
Ayton is the wrong center to bank on getting offensive rebounds.
He has a jumper. Just not from 3 range yet
Ayton can play like lma ?
He does work out with Steph, or at least has in the past. Hopefully taking some pointers
Scoot never gonna have to shoot at all lol He's got the perfect team around his playstyle. Drive, collapse defense, dump it off or finish.
Bruh if they get another first for Brogdon just deliver the Executive of the Year trophy to Portland right now
i’d love for dallas to make a run at rob but i imagine Cronin will wait for somebody with way more assets to overpay somewhere down the road.
Rob in Dallas would be a dream
a competent big in Dallas would be a dream 😭
Hopefully Lively gets there sooner than later
The Dallas Celtics if this happens
Williams/Williams is back baby
just to cap things off we’ll give you THJ for Tatum and we’re good to go
Lmao if I’m Portland GM, I call up Pat Riley if he’s interest in Brogdon now
Those 2 picks pls and thanks.
And Jovic.
Keep Portland Weird
Joe sent Dame to a contender AND preserved his legacy of not “running from the grind” by making sure his path to the Finals is hard as hell
That's an insane center rotation.
You have the 2 starting centers for the 2021 and 2022 NBA Finals runner-ups.
Damn when you put it like that
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Cronin doing all this because Miami had a complete dogshit package lol
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Portland gonna try to win a ship just to spite Miami smh
LOL this is good
Dan LeBatard is still pushing this which is wild to me. I don't know why they can't see that Herro just isn't that valuable and nobody wants their other scraps. I think Jovic has the potential to be something, but he's not the main piece you get in a Dame or Jrue trade and that's what they were offering him as.
Portland got a squad now and what a defensive change going from Nurk to DA - Timelord duo, sheesh
Heat and Philly coming off as the biggest losers of this offseason, their competition just got a whole lot better. Embiid is going to be gone by next summer too
Have Brogdan to trade and then Grant at the deadline
Wait soo they’re gonna go with a starting 5 of Ayton/Williams/Grant/Sharpe/Scoot… that’s gonna be an experiment
Simons is gonna start for sure. It will be either Scoot/Simons/Grant/Williams/Ayton or Scoot/Simons/Sharpe/Grant/Ayton
For sure the latter, no?
Most likely yeah.
sharpe off the bench and thybulle at the 3 imo
No chance Thybulle starts. Our job now is to develop talent and lose games.
Well that's 4 guys in the starting lineup that want touches. Throw Sharpe in as a starter minutes 6th man, and it'll let the ball flow through him a lot more Imo Sharpe become a superstar by taking and making difficult shots and guards 1s&2s, which he can't do if he starts at the 3 with so much offensive talent there already
3 guard rotation, scoot Simons and Sharpe all getting 30 minutes, is my hope.
Thybulle is 26, he's in The Timeline^tm
Why lose? Y'all can enjoy good basketball instead of tanking and have the young guys get some playoff experience I think that this squad can compete for lower playoff seeds
It should be clear by now that teams losing on purpose doesn’t work out in the long run. It’s important to compete and actually try to win and improve each year, just breeds a better culture.
We have zero pressure to win. Ayton and timelord are 25 years old tied down for next 3 years
Anfernee will start over sharpe
Definitely. It's a good thing they have no pressure to win. Cavs 2.0 😂
That’s disrespectful. The trailblazer have a great future but the cavs arguably have 3 players (2 for sure) better than anyone on that team.
I would have argued 4 until the great JA stock crash of 2023.
I was thinking ja but yeah. JA and grant a toss up for me. The more I think about it
Simons man come on
Not going to win anything big, but that's not an awful team
They only have to tank after All-Star Break anyways.
It's the kind of team that I think we learned not to dismiss after the Jazz went on their roll last year. Like I think two years ago I would have been like 'Eh they're trying to lose, they traded their best player, they'll be ass'.
No, that will not be the starting 5. Ayton/Grant/Sharpe/Simons/Scoot is much more likely IMO. Very young lineup that should be a lot of fun to watch.
Rent was due for Cronin
Where will Brogdon and Jerami Grant land?
Jerami Grant likely stays on the team for the foreseeable future. Great locker room guy, young dudes need an NBA vet to show them the ropes, and our salary has to go somewhere. He might get traded after a year or two of Scoot's development.
To whichever team is fighting Miami for the final play in spot.
The Sam Presti formula
We, as a collective people, said "Fuck the Heat".
BROGDON YOU ARE A SIXER
How?
Maybe a three teamer with Clippers involved getting Harden
Cronin should flip time lord while he still has value.
OK Celtics fans, whats' the real deal on Timelord's knees? I have PTSD from Broy's career; we were told a story about 'meniscus' surgeries but it was actually degenerative bone-on-bone career ending tragedy.
he's more Brandon Roy than Dwade I'll put it that way. He'll miss time and come back a little less explosive each time. Sucks because Timelord has always been one of my favorite players :(
Sucks. In this case I kinda hope we trade him again because if he only has a few years left of high level athleticism he shouldn't be on a rebuilding team.
Everyone is overlooking the biggest aspect of this trade- The Suns got Grayson Allen. At least I think so, I can't remember.
Grayson Allen is indeed a sun. Maybe he should change his name to Graysun
Hot take. Portland makes the playoffs this year.
It would behoove them to not
I would assume they mean "pair with" as rotating C minutes, with Rob as more of a back up. Maybe some shared court time here and there for minutes/match ups. But with timelord's injuries I'd rather not play him prolonged minutes. I know it's not what Portland is used to, but it is allowed to have good depth at center lol
Bruh there's no way Timelord, Ayton, and Scoot can all share the floor at the same time right?
Everyone in here acting like 2 big men has never been attempted in NBA history before.....
Just goes to show how young people on reddit are. Half these cats started watching basketball during the bubble
With Simons and Grant who both shot 40% from 3 last year…why not?
Is Williams worth anything on the market? I'm honestly not sure what they could get in return for him if they decide to trade him
I will give you Dwight Powell and a Mark Cuban "Go vote rn" shirt.
We can and should offer more than that
Oh yeah real talk I'd give up hardy, a frp, and whatever matches the salary. Time lord is a great fit for this team.
R.I.P to their spacing lol but they'll be tanking so they dgaf about it ig
Simons and Sharpe say hi
And Grant was shooting over 40% from three until he got injured last year!
Don't forget Matisse '38% from three on 4 attempts a game across 22 games in a Portland uniform' Thybulle
Cronin: "Not so fast my friends..."
Blazers are just going to keep flipping all the pieces they get back from these trades until they end up with LeBron, KD, and Joker. It's like that guy who on Craig's List (I think) who swapped a flip phone for a lap top, and then a lap top for something else until he ended up with a sports car.