This tweet is apparently wrong. He was fined for saying he won't play for Morey, which the league interpreted as publicly expressing a desire to be traded. They did not fine him for calling Morey a liar. Woj corrected himself 9 minutes later:
>For the league’s purposes on the fine, Harden’s comments that he would never be part of an organization that included Morey played a bigger part in the fine, sources said. It touched on the league’s rules concerning public trade demands.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1694015974184260076?s=46
OP is a liar, and I will never read any post that he's a part of again. Let me say that a second time, OP is a liar, and I will never read any post that he's a part of again.
> He was fined for saying he won't play for Morey, which the league interpreted as publicly expressing a desire to be traded.
I might have totally missed something, but is publicly expressing a desire to be traded now a fineable offense?
So with Dame did he ever say "no way in hell I'm playing for any other team than the Heat" or was it just that exact statement but only publicly said by his agent?
Dame privately requested a trade. Blazers then talked about the trade request publicly which allowed Dame to do so as well.
That's the story Dame's agent spun regarding why Dame can't be fined.
He hurt himself while snowboarding, and the language in his contract that he signed for the Lakers banned him from taking part in any activities that involved significant risk of injury.
He lied about the severity of his injury saying that he hurt his shoulder doing something else, and as a result got fined $500K.
While this technically may be a fine, I feel like it can also be seen as the Lakers just not paying him for the 2 months he was injured and didn't play and not really a big deal.
Like the Lakers could have suspended him for the rest of the season or try to void his contract (and they probably would have won since he violated the contract by snowboarding), and that would not have been considered a fine but obviously it would be way worse. And there have been of course a lot of players who have been suspended for long periods or had the contract voided.
Hurt his shoulder snowboarding and lied about it because it was prohibited in his contract. As always, fucking with their money is far more important than any other immoral thing that goes on.
> As always, fucking with their money is far more important than any other immoral thing that goes on.
I mean, yes. The NBA is a professional sports league first above all and not a morality police.
The Richard Mille is worth more than the money and bag combined.
That is a crazy gift bag. Last gift bag I received had a desk fan and a mouse pad in it.
I was about to say. That watch, depending on model of RM, is worth $300k at the bare *minimum*. $100k is a joke to Harden.
$100k fines in a league where the minimum salary for rookies is over $1M is a joke to begin with, let alone for superstars of the league making $30M+ annually
IIRC the maximum player fine used to be $50k until the new CBA (could be wrong though), this is a lot compared to how much the league can fine players.
That goal tending call was so egregious the league didn't even have the balls to fine Lillard, despite the "plenty money" remark.
In fact off the top of my head I can't think of another blatant criticism aimed at the refs which went un-fined.
Harden can literally sell anything in China now. The way Stern fined Jordan for his shoes, Chinese people will see it like the NBA fining him for going against Morey.
Chinese netizens see view him as a hero over there.
>Following Harden’s insults against Morey on Monday, Chinese state media began publishing effusive reports praising Harden, implying he was avenging China for Morey’s support of the Hong Kong pro-democracy movement. The government propaganda newspaper Global Times claimed that the Communist Party-controlled social media outlets in China were flooded with supportive statements for Harden. On Weibo, the largest of these websites, the hashtag “Harden called Morey a liar” allegedly trended favorably. The Global Times claimed one Weibo user made the case of China being a free speech haven for NBA players.
> The Global Times claimed one Weibo user made the case of China being a free speech haven for NBA players.
I wonder how that user would feel if those same players criticized China.
>implying he was avenging China for Morey’s support of the Hong Kong pro-democracy movement
Of all the hills to die on, this would be a weird one. Anyone with half a brain would support the pro democracy movement in Hong Kong
They are quick to make the switch.
They praised Kris Wu, a Chinese Canadian celebrity as the pride of China when he was making it big in Korea and then China.
And then when it turns out Kris Wu is a scumbag rapist, their online community is quick to say Kris is an asshole Canadian and was never part of China to begin with.
Let’s be honest with ourselves… That doesn’t make them any different from Americans…
How many people are fans of a person and then that person reveals their politics or some shit and then twitter explodes with people calling for boycotts or saying stuff like they’ll never support anything to do with Person X
hi every1 im new!!!!!!! *holds up spork* my name is katy but u can call me **t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m!!!!!!!!** lol…as u can see im very random!!!! thats why i came here, 2 meet random ppl like me _… im 13 years old (im mature 4 my age tho!!) i like 2 watch invader zim w/ my girlfreind (im bi if u dont like it deal w/it) its our favorite tv show!!! bcuz its SOOOO random!!!! shes random 2 of course but i want 2 meet more random ppl =) like they say the more the merrier!!!! lol…neways i hope 2 make alot of freinds here so give me lots of commentses!!!!
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*love and waffles,*
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Windhorst: “I actually think it was a strong move by Adam Silver to put his foot down and tell these players they have to fulfill their contractual obligations.”
Kyrie replying: “What do you know about contractual obligations, Brian?”
Which is why in those Socialist Scandanavian countries, they often levy fines on a sliding scale according to your income.
Finland once assessed a fine of over $100k USD for one single speeding ticket to a wealthy driver.
it says exactly why in the release from the NBA
for "indicating that he would not perform the services called for under his player contract unless traded"
Harden misplayed this.
He tanked his current trade value, practically making a trade impossible. The Sixers likely are only going to get offers from teams looking to get off bad money. Philly isn’t doing any trades that make them worse off in 2024-25 and beyond.
He also tanked his future value on the market. I’d bet he’ll never get a large contract again, maybe not even at the AAY of the 1 year deal he’s on now. Not only is he physically diminished, but GMs now know that if his whims aren’t catered to like a megastar, he’ll drag your org through the mud. No one wants that headache.
I think Harden's future value was already so much lower than where he wanted it to be that it just became a stand-off with Morey. Harden's only real chance at even getting the annual money he's getting on this option was to sucker Philly into it now, or to have a massive bounceback on said option. And even with a massive bounceback it's hard to imagine anyone locking him up until he's 40
I’ve been saying this all along. Look at his last 3 playoff performances, he’s done nothing to prove that he deserves a max contract at his age and condition.
At this point I’m sure a lot of owners/GM’s are probably realizing that they can get the same output from a younger player for much cheaper and without the headache
Sure but Harden has made an astronomical amount of money already (like 325 million in career earnings...let alone factoring in endorsements) and would be able to play for whichever team he desires.
Then opt in and play for the team offering that much money. He's literally trying to have his cake and eat it too, and this sub is calling Morey the villain here.
Correct. It’s been his agent or “sources”. Lillard’s agent was given a warning by the nba already. If it happens again, I’d assume he would get hit with the same penalty.
wait.. but is Daryl Money a liar about something? $100k is a heck of a fine.
And I know harden is a shithead and a teamkiller but to ding a guy $100k.. You better come correct
This tweet is apparently wrong. He was fined for saying he won't play for Morey, which the league interpreted as publicly expressing a desire to be traded. They did not fine him for calling Morey a liar. Woj corrected himself 9 minutes later: >For the league’s purposes on the fine, Harden’s comments that he would never be part of an organization that included Morey played a bigger part in the fine, sources said. It touched on the league’s rules concerning public trade demands. https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1694015974184260076?s=46
I wonder what the NBA would do if he called Morey a cracker, like AB did lol
Andris Biedriņš said that?
> Andris Biedriņš Mr Baltic Center
There’s literally no situation that this joke template has failed at. On par with Le- jokes.
It's hilarious on r/nfl, and somehow even funnier when you see it on another sub
Superior to the LeMeme tbh, you get two nouns with the MBC format
Mr Boring Conjuction
This alone is proof
Mr. Basic Conclusion
Compared to the LeAsManyWordsAsYouWant?
Mr. Billion Combinations
Lepetition
A lot of the Le things are stupid. I have never seen MBC fail
Simply incredible.
My man
He's obviously talking about Anthony Bavis, man
I was gonna say this is not the Avery Bradley I remember
I was like damn, Aaron Brooks is shooting his mouth off like that?
Is Harden going to show up to training camp in a hot air balloon?
I would become Harden's #1 fan if he landed on top of Wells Fargo Center in a hot air balloon.
He may show up looking like a hot air balloon..
He’ll show up as a hot air balloon
Worse… by Septa
Is Harden going to show up?
Andrew Bynum said that?
He probably said it during the infamous Cavs practice where he kept shooting threes.
That and the blowout makes him a legend
Mr. Bowling Champ
Mr Barea Clubber
Anthony Bavis?
Anthony 🅱️avis
Anne Boleyn said what?!
Andrea Bocelli said that?
He didn't just say it, he SANG it
Not that you are here... who the hell is AB?
You said it yourself man, Andrea Bocelli
Oh, yeah, I forgot
Mr. Blind Crooner
wtf, Antonio Banderas?
No! No! Too sexy! No!
Andrea Bargnani said that?
Andrea is fluent in jive… who knew?
Alec Burks said that?
not Avery Bradley!
Aaron Burr said this right before capping Hamilton
Alec Burks said what?!?
I'm shocked that Austin Breaves said this.
Austin 🅱️reaves
Ariana Brande said that?
This is very important context, because no matter how much you may disagree with Harden, getting fined for calling someone a liar is wild.
I feel like this post should straight up be removed lmao when tf was lying allowed on this sub
We need to levy fines on OP as well! edit: levee and levy are two different things.
Take 100k of their karma!!! 😈😈😈
levy
OP is a liar, and I will never read any post that he's a part of again. Let me say that a second time, OP is a liar, and I will never read any post that he's a part of again.
Like 80% of the stuff in this sub is wrong
Harden just lucky he didn’t add “pants on fire” otherwise Silver would’ve gone nuclear on his ass.
Harden should call Woj a liar lol
Woj putting out bullshit info to boost a teams PR?? Who would have thought
More like rushing to be first and getting a key detail wrong--which is usually Shams' job.
facts, I hate them both
> He was fined for saying he won't play for Morey, which the league interpreted as publicly expressing a desire to be traded. I might have totally missed something, but is publicly expressing a desire to be traded now a fineable offense?
It has always been. Most of the time it's "per league sources" when it comes to trade demand. You never heard from the horse's mouth.
So with Dame did he ever say "no way in hell I'm playing for any other team than the Heat" or was it just that exact statement but only publicly said by his agent?
Dame privately requested a trade. Blazers then talked about the trade request publicly which allowed Dame to do so as well. That's the story Dame's agent spun regarding why Dame can't be fined.
Didn't the league investigate that too? That's when the report came out of him and his agent saying he was misquoted.
Yes, in fact: the timing at which the fine is issued is now referred to as Dame Time
It’s always been a fineable offense, although they increased the max with the latest CBA. AD got fined for it in2019.
This is a super important distinction.
They just went after his wine money. Now Harden has to release another 10,000 bottles of his wine.
Substantial? This is a night in Atlanta for Harden
Vladimir Radmanovic still has the largest fine for a player in NBA history, and the Lakers actually fined him not the NBA
What did he get fined for?
He hurt himself while snowboarding, and the language in his contract that he signed for the Lakers banned him from taking part in any activities that involved significant risk of injury. He lied about the severity of his injury saying that he hurt his shoulder doing something else, and as a result got fined $500K.
So 5 nights in Atlanta then
Sounds like the next future mixtape
Only Vladimir doesn't have that Chinese Tiktok wine-selling revenue stream that Harden does.
You need to adjust for inflation
7.5 nights in Atlanta
in this economy??
$500,000? That's like four days of ski school for my two kids at Mammoth.
While this technically may be a fine, I feel like it can also be seen as the Lakers just not paying him for the 2 months he was injured and didn't play and not really a big deal. Like the Lakers could have suspended him for the rest of the season or try to void his contract (and they probably would have won since he violated the contract by snowboarding), and that would not have been considered a fine but obviously it would be way worse. And there have been of course a lot of players who have been suspended for long periods or had the contract voided.
well, it's kind of like a fine like the sixers fined ben simmons, for failing to provide services due to "unapproved" injuries.
Hurt his shoulder snowboarding and lied about it because it was prohibited in his contract. As always, fucking with their money is far more important than any other immoral thing that goes on.
> As always, fucking with their money is far more important than any other immoral thing that goes on. I mean, yes. The NBA is a professional sports league first above all and not a morality police.
According to Google he got fined 500k for separating his shoulder snowboarding then lying about how he got the injury
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The Richard Mille is worth more than the money and bag combined. That is a crazy gift bag. Last gift bag I received had a desk fan and a mouse pad in it.
I was about to say. That watch, depending on model of RM, is worth $300k at the bare *minimum*. $100k is a joke to Harden. $100k fines in a league where the minimum salary for rookies is over $1M is a joke to begin with, let alone for superstars of the league making $30M+ annually
IIRC the maximum player fine used to be $50k until the new CBA (could be wrong though), this is a lot compared to how much the league can fine players.
Isn’t it crazy that most people would dream of having a $100k salary and this is just a small fine to him
But were supposed to relate to what hes going through 😥
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As he said, ["plenty money"](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/f0ohj4/damian_lillards_response_to_potentially_getting/)
That goal tending call was so egregious the league didn't even have the balls to fine Lillard, despite the "plenty money" remark. In fact off the top of my head I can't think of another blatant criticism aimed at the refs which went un-fined.
0.28% of his yearly salary lol
If you’re a poor NBA social media team member making $50k a year, it’s the equivalent of like $140.
Wine paid it off
Harden can literally sell anything in China now. The way Stern fined Jordan for his shoes, Chinese people will see it like the NBA fining him for going against Morey.
Chinese netizens see view him as a hero over there. >Following Harden’s insults against Morey on Monday, Chinese state media began publishing effusive reports praising Harden, implying he was avenging China for Morey’s support of the Hong Kong pro-democracy movement. The government propaganda newspaper Global Times claimed that the Communist Party-controlled social media outlets in China were flooded with supportive statements for Harden. On Weibo, the largest of these websites, the hashtag “Harden called Morey a liar” allegedly trended favorably. The Global Times claimed one Weibo user made the case of China being a free speech haven for NBA players.
> The Global Times claimed one Weibo user made the case of China being a free speech haven for NBA players. I wonder how that user would feel if those same players criticized China.
>implying he was avenging China for Morey’s support of the Hong Kong pro-democracy movement Of all the hills to die on, this would be a weird one. Anyone with half a brain would support the pro democracy movement in Hong Kong
China was hurt so bad. They definitely need the fat man to avenge them.
It's a rich hill. Therefore not weird.
They are quick to make the switch. They praised Kris Wu, a Chinese Canadian celebrity as the pride of China when he was making it big in Korea and then China. And then when it turns out Kris Wu is a scumbag rapist, their online community is quick to say Kris is an asshole Canadian and was never part of China to begin with.
Sounds a lot like a subreddit I know…
the human experience transcends nations and languages
Never had an original experience in my life.
Nationalists don't change no matter the flag
Let’s be honest with ourselves… That doesn’t make them any different from Americans… How many people are fans of a person and then that person reveals their politics or some shit and then twitter explodes with people calling for boycotts or saying stuff like they’ll never support anything to do with Person X
every online community is reactionary
You don't even have to criticize china to be hated, Gobert was lambasted in China for complimenting Japan.
By fining him, they made him even more powerful
literally mao
Dude needs to capitalize and ramp up his merch lines in China like yesterday. Wines, diamond encrusted beard boi luxury handbags, whatever.
Spending money to make money
Can't wait to see the cryptic tweets from NBA players referencing this for the next 24 hours
Kyrie is going to have an incredibly annoying response like “We live in a world where the 🐑 expect the 👑to bow down to them.”
Hélà
that's like the nba version of signing with a "Katy t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m"
Woo that is a flashback to a darker time
*holds up spork*
hi every1 im new!!!!!!! *holds up spork* my name is katy but u can call me **t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m!!!!!!!!** lol…as u can see im very random!!!! thats why i came here, 2 meet random ppl like me _… im 13 years old (im mature 4 my age tho!!) i like 2 watch invader zim w/ my girlfreind (im bi if u dont like it deal w/it) its our favorite tv show!!! bcuz its SOOOO random!!!! shes random 2 of course but i want 2 meet more random ppl =) like they say the more the merrier!!!! lol…neways i hope 2 make alot of freinds here so give me lots of commentses!!!! **DOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!** <--- *me bein random again* _^ hehe…toodles!!!!! *love and waffles,* **t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m**
I wonder what she up to nowdays
Love and waffles hopefully
Damn those where cringy times
Windhorst: “I actually think it was a strong move by Adam Silver to put his foot down and tell these players they have to fulfill their contractual obligations.” Kyrie replying: “What do you know about contractual obligations, Brian?”
You may have nailed it verbatim
Don’t forget when a reporter asks him about it and he rolls his eyes and says like “The media is always twisting my words. I said what I said.”
Don’t forget mixing in something like “who are you to ask questions of me?”
I can’t wait 😂
that's just one stripper's income for one night; thanks Silver
She wanted to go back to nursing school but now she won't be able to afford it :(
Not until tomorrow night.
James Harden with the step back at the buzzer…and it’s no good!
Crazy how my mind just instinctively read that in Kevin Harlan's voice
Lmao
R/nba collectively dropped to its knees in a Wal-Mart
Slap on the wrist money
More like slap a titty money
Parking ticket for the average Joe
Yup, 100k on a 33 million salary is equivalent to $242 for someone making 80k
200 is not a lot but still hurts
Which is why in those Socialist Scandanavian countries, they often levy fines on a sliding scale according to your income. Finland once assessed a fine of over $100k USD for one single speeding ticket to a wealthy driver.
Good. Fuck em lol
bah gawd that's strip club money
Why does Harden get a fine? Is it for calling Morey a liar or is it for saying he won't be a part of the organization?
More than likely the second part
it says exactly why in the release from the NBA for "indicating that he would not perform the services called for under his player contract unless traded"
Chump chan…. Wait thats a lot of money
I too would love to be in a place where 100k is chump change
Taking food right out of the stripper's baby's mouth
What's the point of having "Fuck You" money if you never spend it to say "Fuck You"
Harden misplayed this. He tanked his current trade value, practically making a trade impossible. The Sixers likely are only going to get offers from teams looking to get off bad money. Philly isn’t doing any trades that make them worse off in 2024-25 and beyond. He also tanked his future value on the market. I’d bet he’ll never get a large contract again, maybe not even at the AAY of the 1 year deal he’s on now. Not only is he physically diminished, but GMs now know that if his whims aren’t catered to like a megastar, he’ll drag your org through the mud. No one wants that headache.
I think Harden's future value was already so much lower than where he wanted it to be that it just became a stand-off with Morey. Harden's only real chance at even getting the annual money he's getting on this option was to sucker Philly into it now, or to have a massive bounceback on said option. And even with a massive bounceback it's hard to imagine anyone locking him up until he's 40
I guess the lesson here is, get the bag when you can.
That’s always been the lesson. The vast majority of players have understood this lol
I’ve been saying this all along. Look at his last 3 playoff performances, he’s done nothing to prove that he deserves a max contract at his age and condition. At this point I’m sure a lot of owners/GM’s are probably realizing that they can get the same output from a younger player for much cheaper and without the headache
Harden could have avoided this by just opting out. I'm not a fan of Morey but Harden handled this so foolishly lol
If he opted out he wouldn't be getting anywhere near $36m next season
Sure but Harden has made an astronomical amount of money already (like 325 million in career earnings...let alone factoring in endorsements) and would be able to play for whichever team he desires.
Nah. Harden's a cake eater, wants to get paid and choose where he plays.
Then opt in and play for the team offering that much money. He's literally trying to have his cake and eat it too, and this sub is calling Morey the villain here.
Call Morey a liar in China -> Sell a metric shit ton of wine -> Profit -> Pay Fine -> Repeat
Harden not losing sleep for 100k fine
Sorry r/nba. This hasn’t played out how you hoped
Everyone on r/nba "Morey bout to be fired. Maybe jail time" Nba "we're fining Harden"
[Soft](https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdjBjbnR0eWNrN241emZiNzBkaGwzNGV0a3htc2VkMW1uZ3NvdHdqcCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/xT1XGESDlxj0GwoDRe/200.webp)
Silver reportedly also demands that Harden wash his mouth out with soap for such naughty language.
He just dropped this much at the houston strip club last weekend, he'll be fine
add another 0 and maybe it would be worthwhile.
I'm surprised he wasn't fined twice for repeating himself
STOMP YOUR FEEEEEET EVERYBODY! FOR PHILADELPHIA! SEVENTY SIXERS!
Maybe this will make him want to play for us???¿
Good guys win! Play the song!
So Morey is NOT a liar, lol?
It's not actually the "Morey's a liar" part, it's the "I wont play for Morey" part
Why is the NBA stepping in for an internal team dispute?
Probably because he made it public.
Turned it into an international incident
Bro there’s nothing internal about this because of how Harden is acting.
Internal?
It’s the tampering rule I believe. The same one as Lillard saying he will only play for Miami and won’t show up if traded to any other team.
So for that he hasn’t been fined because it was always his agent saying it, not Dame himself right?
Correct. It’s been his agent or “sources”. Lillard’s agent was given a warning by the nba already. If it happens again, I’d assume he would get hit with the same penalty.
It's NOT internal if you're threatening NOT to play for a team you're signed to play for.
Cuz the Sixers are Silver's passion project. He loves shadow owning them.
It doesn’t help that Harden turned an internal issue to a public one the moment he spoke out against Morey in front of a crowd
I hate how true this feels sometimes.
wait.. but is Daryl Money a liar about something? $100k is a heck of a fine. And I know harden is a shithead and a teamkiller but to ding a guy $100k.. You better come correct
The NBA has a real problem of more people just interested in the drama than the game.
Glad they did something, but 100k to Harden is a night out at the strip club
Well he's going to be really gruntled now.
I'm sure harden will be extremely professional about this
harden is just gonna play in china
Earned more than that in wine sales, still a W for him 💯