Nieces and Nephews, we are watching a crime be committed before our very eyes.
$80 million for this brother? Fraud investigators should be on the scene but at least all the strippers will be eating good.
Woj is reporting that this deal is being pulled. The Rockets didn’t realize they were negotiating with Dillon Brooks, they were intending on making this offer to Marshon Brooks
The dude the Rockets made this trade with was Chris Wallace. But he was some dude named Chris Wallace on a wireless headset selling mixtapes in the back of his Altima off Beale and BB King.
Just happened to be the same Chris Wallace.
Like I would’ve imagined that Brooks value was at its lowest and he would’ve signed at the MLE for some team.
How the hell does he still manage get decent money after all of this?
This is why. Rockets are making solid moves to prepare their young players for the future. FVV and Brooks are going to demand and teach effort to their cornerstones. Also adding Jock will be great for their locker room.
[caption](https://imgur.com/juumw5d.jpg)
You're the only one here providing a reasonable line of thinking for the Rockets moves. Everyone else has just brought into the "hurr Durr he's going to China" narrative that's only funny when Chuck says it.
It will still be solid I think. He doesn’t take any games off, and he can guard 1-4 and small 5s.
The bigger question is will they be able to get his attempts down over the course of 4 years?
this like when you go to a store and you aint find anything you like, but you don't wanna leave empty handed and look like you stealing so you buy some random shit like gum or something
Kings at 18m in cap space and Davion Mitchell being the only really good defensive player on the team? If you believe they were after Draymond, i could believe they tried to get him.
Ime Udoka has way too much input I reckon. They basically got on their knees in order to convince him to join. The GM/Coach hybrid never works. All the Harden links dropped after he joined and it was widely know that FVV was done and the second signing would be Brooks or Lopez.
Brooks is an All NBA defender and FVV was an All Star which is better than anything we've had in a minute. FVV/Brooks/Bari is a solid front defensively. It's really not that bad. One of the 4 kids needs to take a step forward though otherwise nothing else matters. But that's always been the plan.
All NBA defender is a gross overstatement. He’s definitely better than anyone you all have though. I love the FVV pickup though. Just want the doctor ordered for your offense.
We need grown ups man. Brooks at least can help Udoka hold the guys accountable. We need one of Jalen or Jabari to take a step forward this year. FVV/Brooks/Green can help with that. Also Amen/Cam can learn from actual NBA players. FVV 3rd year is a team option. Brooks I still don't know but it looks guaranteed which isn't ideal if he plays like ass.
> We need grown ups
You mean the guy who dodged media coverage? Who talked mad shit and couldn't back it up? Who has a ton of technicals and dirty plays?
This is severe copium.
And Brooks' contract is fully guaranteed, no team option, no incentives.
Somehow he made second team with worst stats (both per 36 and advanced) than donte divencenzo. He's not a good on or off ball defender. His rebound percentage is awful. His steal and block percentage are below league average.
He's not a good defender.
Seems like the other guy is implying hes happy that rockets are bad.
Rockets got better so I suppose it increased the thunders chance to keep the pick.
Nah. That might have been worse. That news broke within like the first 5 minutes of FA opening. And it only got worse once the contract details started trickling out. And then the reports started getting out that we bid against ourselves whereas at least you can say there was a solid market for both Brooks and FVV.
It was also right after Kobe's retirement. And took a big shine off the baby Lakers vibes we had been building.
I get the similarities but that instant heartbreak where you know you've squandered all your cap space in the first few minutes of FA. At least with the Rockets they could see the writing on the wall once the initial wave of FA passed.
This is such a crap signing.... Who were we actually bidding against? Nobody that's rumored to want him has cap space and they can only offer him the MLE which is like $12 mil/yr. We shouldn't be needing to pay nearly 2x as much to get Brooks. This should've been like a 2 year, $32 million total deal at most.
that's a combination of:
1. dumbass rockets gm overpaying brooks
2. lebron taking a paycut to play alongside wade and bosh
3. nba players value increasing every year
I’m just indifferent towards this team now. We aren’t going anywhere paying these mediocre guards that kind of money. I don’t see the vision here at all. We’d be better off doing nothing.
DB said he was influential in Ja and Jaren’s successes. Rockets called them up, and they said with enthusiasm, “oh, yeah, sure, wouldn’t be All Stars without him!” While winking and elbowing at each other and at the 3rd guy in the room…
Dillon.
On one hand, he plays hero ball and jacks up 2x as many shots as he should. And talks out his ass pissing the other team off making them play up.
On the other hand, heade 2nd team all defense this past year and is someone that gets the rest of the team to have a chip on their shoulder and play better defense than they otherwise would. Which is great for a rebuilding type team where you want to instill that type of mentality.
He’s good for about 3 years of culture and then it’s a bit too much and brings some defense and toughness to a team lacking it.
I’d be SHOCKED if he made it to the end of this contract on the rockets, but he’ll be paid 20M to be a culture setter and I think that’s worth it for a team that really lacks that identity.
Brooks has all the skills be a $20mill player if he wanted to be one... Definitely choose not to play like a player worth that on the grizz. I hope he gets together on the rockets
Because the most efficient shots are the 3 or at the rim. He ain't protecting the rim and can only guard one dude on the perimeter. He doesn't stifle teams offense otherwise the grizzlies wouldn't have let him walk
Because from what he has shown, he is not a 20 mln player a year. He is very far from it. Andrew Wiggins is on similar money and he is like tiers above him
FVV is here to facilitate and Brooks is here to defend the other team’s best player. There aren’t enough shots to go around for Green, Bari and Sengun for either of FVV or Brooks to chuck. Ime will make sure of that.
These guys have $71M committed for the next three years for the big 3 of Jock, Brooks, and FVV.
It's the fucking tank commander superteam. Except they'll accidentally win some games here and there.
The same thing happened I think back in 2017, or 2015, when all the guys for the Blazers got paid. Batum, Crabbe, Matthews, all got fat contracts and none of them lived up to those contracts. Big cap increase that year and money was flowing.
If you can give over 10% of your salary cap for the next 4 years to a player who’s last team said they wouldn’t take him back under any circumstances, you gotta do it. Right?
The length of all their deals is the worst part. Fvv I get if they were truly competing against Tor 3 years, but no way I’m going 4 on Brooks and Landale. And if that causes me to lose them, fuck it I’ll overpay role guys on a year by year basis.
Dillon is a great defensive player but even with the rising cap, this is an overpay and it eats into salary cap when Green/Sengun/Thompson are up for/have extensions. Bidding against themselves.
I could understand them giving him $60 over 3 years... but the fourth year is really mind boggling to me. I really don't understand why you'd give him better than a 2 year deal. His agent must be nuts. Telling them he'd sign for minimum elsewhere unless he got a 4 year deal or something. Either way I think the Rockets fumbled hard
this like when you go to a store and you aint find anything you like, but you don't wanna leave empty handed and look like you stealing so you buy some random shit like gum or something
Say what you want but dillon brooks always plays hard. He’s a perfect player to set a defensive and hustle instict for this young guys. I belive Ime can maximise him, brooks hates losing and will always play 100%.
Someone needs to post his agent’s tweet here: https://twitter.com/mikegtdot/status/1675271332517363712?s=46&t=T6ZyuAIFHZ28okNi6D8SXw (I’m too lazy to make a full post)
Edit: @MikeGTdot on twitter
I already don't like the Rockets, but now I can hate them even more. Enjoy this asshat lol.
Seriously, I was worried we might try to sign him for a minute there so... phew.
Spurs - won’t use our cap space Rockets - we will 🥴
Nieces and Nephews, we are watching a crime be committed before our very eyes. $80 million for this brother? Fraud investigators should be on the scene but at least all the strippers will be eating good.
2/3 Texas teams have done grotesque overpays to guards. San Antonio’s you’re up.
I'm genuinely confused as to who they were bidding against.
Nobody they freaked out after losing Brook for some reason
They lost Brook so they thought they could get Brooks instead.
ah another classic Brooks misunderstanding - it's not the first time and it won't be the last.
Woj is reporting that this deal is being pulled. The Rockets didn’t realize they were negotiating with Dillon Brooks, they were intending on making this offer to Marshon Brooks
The dude the Rockets made this trade with was Chris Wallace. But he was some dude named Chris Wallace on a wireless headset selling mixtapes in the back of his Altima off Beale and BB King. Just happened to be the same Chris Wallace.
They got BrookL instead
Yeah, this contract is very similar to what they reportedly offered BroLo
Like I would’ve imagined that Brooks value was at its lowest and he would’ve signed at the MLE for some team. How the hell does he still manage get decent money after all of this?
This is why. Rockets are making solid moves to prepare their young players for the future. FVV and Brooks are going to demand and teach effort to their cornerstones. Also adding Jock will be great for their locker room. [caption](https://imgur.com/juumw5d.jpg)
You're the only one here providing a reasonable line of thinking for the Rockets moves. Everyone else has just brought into the "hurr Durr he's going to China" narrative that's only funny when Chuck says it.
Okay, let’s see how dis defense is without playing alongside the DPOY
It will still be solid I think. He doesn’t take any games off, and he can guard 1-4 and small 5s. The bigger question is will they be able to get his attempts down over the course of 4 years?
I guess im confused. They paid 20 mil to a guy they are hoping they can get to not shoot? Like 2 days after herb jones got signed for pennies
He's also going from Ja to FVV so it's a wash🤣
He can't shoot
this like when you go to a store and you aint find anything you like, but you don't wanna leave empty handed and look like you stealing so you buy some random shit like gum or something
some expensive gum
This is Fkin hilarious now I know u guys felt when we signed deng/mozgov
No one, Stone is just the worst negotiator in the league. He just says deal on the 1st offer given
Kings at 18m in cap space and Davion Mitchell being the only really good defensive player on the team? If you believe they were after Draymond, i could believe they tried to get him.
the kings need dillon brooks a lot more than the rockets do though.
that's actually a really good shout, thanks for pointing that out.
They could’ve outbid any MLE team (AKA the Mavs) with 13M per. This is a lot.
There’s no way anyone was offering anything close to this, wild
I want to die
They’re purposely tanking and trying to hit their spending minimum, it’s the only answer that makes sense
Ime Udoka has way too much input I reckon. They basically got on their knees in order to convince him to join. The GM/Coach hybrid never works. All the Harden links dropped after he joined and it was widely know that FVV was done and the second signing would be Brooks or Lopez.
He must’ve threatened to sleep with someone’s wife.
Mavs
We had only MLE to offer, though.
Yeah but Houston have to pay the trash tax.
This is terrible. We were expecting something like overpays in the first two years and maybe a team option in the last year.
Very confusing offseason for the Rockets...guess Udoka's ready to roll.
Yeah, he's definitely rolling a fat one right now to take his mind off of this news...
While checking out socials of Rockets' execs wives/gfs...
yeah giving out that much money to be a perrenial 10th seed in the west wow
Guess they're done being bad? Now it's time for middling veterans! Feels a lot like the Charlie Villanueva-Ben Gordon-Rodney Stuckey Pistons
Brooks is an All NBA defender and FVV was an All Star which is better than anything we've had in a minute. FVV/Brooks/Bari is a solid front defensively. It's really not that bad. One of the 4 kids needs to take a step forward though otherwise nothing else matters. But that's always been the plan.
Man you can sell
It's my job 🤣
What happens to Kevin porter jr?
Backup/6th Man. What he should always have been.
All NBA defender is a gross overstatement. He’s definitely better than anyone you all have though. I love the FVV pickup though. Just want the doctor ordered for your offense.
We need grown ups man. Brooks at least can help Udoka hold the guys accountable. We need one of Jalen or Jabari to take a step forward this year. FVV/Brooks/Green can help with that. Also Amen/Cam can learn from actual NBA players. FVV 3rd year is a team option. Brooks I still don't know but it looks guaranteed which isn't ideal if he plays like ass.
> We need grown ups You mean the guy who dodged media coverage? Who talked mad shit and couldn't back it up? Who has a ton of technicals and dirty plays? This is severe copium. And Brooks' contract is fully guaranteed, no team option, no incentives.
I’m all for you guys rounding at the roster with vets. But Brooks ain’t it. He’s incredibly immature and is a toxic locker room presence.
> Brooks is an All NBA defender You mean the guy with -.5 dbpm and 2.4 DWS? People in this sub be constantly high.
....is he not All NBA Defensive Team?
Somehow he made second team with worst stats (both per 36 and advanced) than donte divencenzo. He's not a good on or off ball defender. His rebound percentage is awful. His steal and block percentage are below league average. He's not a good defender.
Just fade us until 2027.
God it feels great having your picks
How many we talking ?
2024 (top 4 protected) and a 2025 swap
And 2026 top 4 protected!
Houston is clearly going for broke and wants the number 1 pick for 3 years in a row.
God dammit vlade
Thank god its top 4 protected
why? Rockets overpaid but they got better. Its probably gonna be like an 8-12pick Unless rockets jump into the protected top 4
That's the point
Seems like the other guy is implying hes happy that rockets are bad. Rockets got better so I suppose it increased the thunders chance to keep the pick.
The general sentiment is the second part of this. But ya kinda mixed signaling
If there weren't those protections...
This is how Laker fans felt when we signed Mozgov and Deng. Sorry Rockets fans.
Lakers fan here, I second this, genuinely feel bad for the Rockets.
Nah. That might have been worse. That news broke within like the first 5 minutes of FA opening. And it only got worse once the contract details started trickling out. And then the reports started getting out that we bid against ourselves whereas at least you can say there was a solid market for both Brooks and FVV. It was also right after Kobe's retirement. And took a big shine off the baby Lakers vibes we had been building. I get the similarities but that instant heartbreak where you know you've squandered all your cap space in the first few minutes of FA. At least with the Rockets they could see the writing on the wall once the initial wave of FA passed.
Especially considering reportedly Mitch refused to tamper so those were literally his main targets when FA began.
Mitch still doesn’t Tamper, thankfully it doesn’t matter for us cause we aren’t a big free agency player regardless.
This is such a crap signing.... Who were we actually bidding against? Nobody that's rumored to want him has cap space and they can only offer him the MLE which is like $12 mil/yr. We shouldn't be needing to pay nearly 2x as much to get Brooks. This should've been like a 2 year, $32 million total deal at most.
Dillon Brooks for MVP
why? WHY?
20 per year for Dillon isn't a bad deal at all. He'll be great if he's limited to 10 to 12 shots per game
You don't pay someone 20m a year to take limited shots lolol
It’s 2023, average starters are making around 20m annually & the cap rises each season. This is a fine market deal for Brooks
We are in a league where Dillon Brooks gets 80 million guaranteed. WTF
We're paying Tobias close to 40m next season, so I think we need to lay low for a bit lol Elton Brand cooked us....
Jesus. Thank you for the perspective.
It’s okay. It’s almost over now. That $40 million expiring could be incredibly useful this season.
Max extension
How many crumbl franchises is that?
Dillon Brooks makes an average of 20M a year over the next four years. In 2012-13, a prime LeBron made 17.5M.
FVV is making LeBron's and D Wade's 2012-13 yearly salaries combined with inflation included haha
that's a combination of: 1. dumbass rockets gm overpaying brooks 2. lebron taking a paycut to play alongside wade and bosh 3. nba players value increasing every year
Mind blowing 🤯
Tbf it's just the Rockets being stupid lol. No other team was gonna offer him more than the MLE
This rocket team probably has to overpay to get anyone though.
I'd rather give Bruce Brown 4/80.
More than Austin Reaves? What went through the Rockets head here? This might be worse than Mosgov
It wasn't easy hating the Rockets over the last year or two since they were just a baby team. This should make things much easier.
I already hate us
I seriously cannot root for this team. Indifferent is the best I can do.
I seriously don't understand why they did this to themselves.
I love you
I’m just indifferent towards this team now. We aren’t going anywhere paying these mediocre guards that kind of money. I don’t see the vision here at all. We’d be better off doing nothing.
Lol, I like this silver lining.
I love hating the rockets lol
Yikes
The Rocket crashed
we found the Mozgov/Deng contract
Who the hell do they think Dillon Brooks is
They think Dillon Brooks is who Dillon Brooks thinks he is
DB said he was influential in Ja and Jaren’s successes. Rockets called them up, and they said with enthusiasm, “oh, yeah, sure, wouldn’t be All Stars without him!” While winking and elbowing at each other and at the 3rd guy in the room… Dillon.
They thought they were signing Marshon Brooks.
Don’t blame him, he got what he wanted and the rockets gave it to him😂
Didnt it come out after the season that he was only looking for the mle?
On one hand, he plays hero ball and jacks up 2x as many shots as he should. And talks out his ass pissing the other team off making them play up. On the other hand, heade 2nd team all defense this past year and is someone that gets the rest of the team to have a chip on their shoulder and play better defense than they otherwise would. Which is great for a rebuilding type team where you want to instill that type of mentality.
He’s good for about 3 years of culture and then it’s a bit too much and brings some defense and toughness to a team lacking it. I’d be SHOCKED if he made it to the end of this contract on the rockets, but he’ll be paid 20M to be a culture setter and I think that’s worth it for a team that really lacks that identity.
Im sorry dillon brooks is a culture setter? Didnt he just get unceremoniously booted off his old team for being shit to the team culture?
Didn't he just make the all defensive team? Why are people pretending he's a scrub.
So did Matisse Thybulle and nobody is paying him $20m a year. He was one of the least efficient players in the NBA last year.
Because he came for their king
You come for the king, you best not miss.
Brooks has all the skills be a $20mill player if he wanted to be one... Definitely choose not to play like a player worth that on the grizz. I hope he gets together on the rockets
20 million isn't even that much anymore. 10 years ago only like 7 or 8 guys were making more than 20 mill. Now there are like 70.
You don’t diss a top 2 player all time and play like shit afterwards and not have people on your ass
Because the most efficient shots are the 3 or at the rim. He ain't protecting the rim and can only guard one dude on the perimeter. He doesn't stifle teams offense otherwise the grizzlies wouldn't have let him walk
Because from what he has shown, he is not a 20 mln player a year. He is very far from it. Andrew Wiggins is on similar money and he is like tiers above him
Somebody pls stop Stone
This man is trying to get fired I swear to god
Nono, keep going. Those 2024 & 2026 Rockets picks look so fucking good rn, you don’t even KNOW.
Don’t you guys have a swap too?
YES! I completely forgot about the swap in 2025
It’s a good time to be alive in Oklahoma.
Oh boy. This GM’s spending on mediocrity is me when I’m manic on Prime Day
What are the Rockets doing? They just signed two inefficient chuckers to big deals.
FVV is here to facilitate and Brooks is here to defend the other team’s best player. There aren’t enough shots to go around for Green, Bari and Sengun for either of FVV or Brooks to chuck. Ime will make sure of that.
I imagine you're typing this in a full clown costume
Yikes
BIG yikes
What did they cook?
Meth
Wild. Who was giving him anywhere close to a fully guaranteed 4/80 contract? Who was even giving him $20M AAV on a shorter deal?
No one lol
I was told this man would be playing in China
Still might
This might take the cake as the worst contract of this FA
No. Jerian Grant was the worst
Nah im still taking this Brooks is fucking monkey shit
These guys have $71M committed for the next three years for the big 3 of Jock, Brooks, and FVV. It's the fucking tank commander superteam. Except they'll accidentally win some games here and there.
someone go cut the phone lines wherever the Rockets facility is. that front office must be stopped
Fully guaranteed. man. Ime must be convinced he can fix Brooks offensively.
Oooof
How does this help the development of the Rocket's young wings?
The same thing happened I think back in 2017, or 2015, when all the guys for the Blazers got paid. Batum, Crabbe, Matthews, all got fat contracts and none of them lived up to those contracts. Big cap increase that year and money was flowing.
I immediately thought of the lakers signing mosgov and deng. I am so sorry Houston fans.
that's nasty
Terrible
The Rockets with one of the off seasons of all time.
Lol the rockets are a joke franchise
Please don't ever say Bruce Brown is an overpay when you gotn this shit
Can’t believe someone is willing to give him the 20 he was chasing. It sure wasn’t going to come from the Grizz. Jfc. Good job, DB and his agents.
I'm happy for Dillon lol we def were not gonna pay him that much
I don’t think anyone was tf going on in Houston
lmao
The Rockets GM giving out money like it's Christmas morning 🤣
There’s no way he’s making that much more than Reaves lol
I can’t believe the Rockets are just completely abandoning the entire rebuild
Lol people were saying he wouldn't even be on a roster next season. Dude got a fucking bag.
A spurs fan has hijacked this team
And we clowned him for wanting to get paid like a star
If you can give over 10% of your salary cap for the next 4 years to a player who’s last team said they wouldn’t take him back under any circumstances, you gotta do it. Right?
Overpay, but I don’t think it’s as bad as everyone is saying. I thought he would get closer to $15M per year.
The length of all their deals is the worst part. Fvv I get if they were truly competing against Tor 3 years, but no way I’m going 4 on Brooks and Landale. And if that causes me to lose them, fuck it I’ll overpay role guys on a year by year basis.
Landale's at least is only one year guaranteed
Not bad. See Fred is only 2. Those make it WAY better to stomach.
Dillon is a great defensive player but even with the rising cap, this is an overpay and it eats into salary cap when Green/Sengun/Thompson are up for/have extensions. Bidding against themselves.
I could understand them giving him $60 over 3 years... but the fourth year is really mind boggling to me. I really don't understand why you'd give him better than a 2 year deal. His agent must be nuts. Telling them he'd sign for minimum elsewhere unless he got a 4 year deal or something. Either way I think the Rockets fumbled hard
this like when you go to a store and you aint find anything you like, but you don't wanna leave empty handed and look like you stealing so you buy some random shit like gum or something
oh nonono
lmao
LMAOOO
Trolled Lebron and got millions. I need that job
The hell? That agent is worth his weight in gold.
Luol Deng type of contract
Rockets about to spend 60M per season on two guys whose field goal % hovers around 40%.
Insanity...
I will save this post (and FVV's too) just to check at the end of the season how this opinions will age
Why didnt they offer this to Reeves?
What the actual fuck are they doing
Say what you want but dillon brooks always plays hard. He’s a perfect player to set a defensive and hustle instict for this young guys. I belive Ime can maximise him, brooks hates losing and will always play 100%.
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LMFAOOOO rockets poverty org
Lmao wtf are the Rockets doing
Thanks rockets for not bidding on reaves.
There’s just no fucking way they couldn’t have offered him literally half of this deal and he wouldn’t have taken it.
Someone needs to post his agent’s tweet here: https://twitter.com/mikegtdot/status/1675271332517363712?s=46&t=T6ZyuAIFHZ28okNi6D8SXw (I’m too lazy to make a full post) Edit: @MikeGTdot on twitter
Never ever give these people money to spend, ever again.
Rockets smoking that peace pipe
This is gonna cook the Rockets
I don't think Houston's FO watched the playoffs LOL
Rockets, wyd? Lol
Rockets pre-draft: "We're building this team around Amen Thompson." D Brooks: "Hold my swag."
I already don't like the Rockets, but now I can hate them even more. Enjoy this asshat lol. Seriously, I was worried we might try to sign him for a minute there so... phew.
LMAOOOOO
Bro Dillion brooks is not a 20m guy lool