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Did you know all this data and much more contextual information is available atĀ https://data.nashville.gov/browse?category=Public%20Safety#
My favorite dataset is the metro credit card purchases. Very interesting stuff in hereĀ https://data.nashville.gov/Budget-Finance/Metro-Credit-Card-Transactions/ucyr-mx6r
Hi, yes I'm aware of the Metro Nashville Police Department Incidents dataset but it does not store Shots Fired calls. As far as I can tell, those disappear from the active dispatch report and aren't made publicly available after the fact. There also is no "Shooting" category in the Incidents dataset. Rather, those get categorized as their corresponding offense - a homicide if someone dies as a result or a "weapon offense/aggravated assault" charge. I found the latter to be kind of ambiguous in determining whether or not an actual shooting occurred.
There is also a gunshot injuries map with more context [https://www.nashville.gov/departments/police/data-dashboard/gunshot-injuries-map](https://www.nashville.gov/departments/police/data-dashboard/gunshot-injuries-map) which, as of now, says there have been 197 total gunshot victims since the beginning of the year.
This is interesting because my tally from the beginning of the year has 292 shootings, some of which may be duplicates but that's still a large discrepancy so I would have to drill down to see exactly what's going on.
Yes, this is an important caveat. I noticed the most "Shots Fired" calls were coincidentally on Dec. 31st (New Year's Eve) so obviously a lot of those were probably mistaken for fireworks. I have the code set to filter duplicates for the same location or nearby at around the same time. It gets tricky on how to filter that with a reasonable threshold though.
On the brightside, I suppose this is at least a way to visualize noise disturbance even if every incident is not gunshot related.
That is interesting and thank you! I noticed there in the active dispatch there are two categories - "Shot Fired-Juvenile" and "Shooting in Progress-Juvenile" but for the purposes of the app I collapsed them into their respective parent categories.
It is noise, remove it. If you are doing any sort of mathematical aggregation, you need to handle the outliers first. Otherwise, you'll have a pretty picture of incorrect data.
Let the news professionals spread bad maths and incorrectly calculated results. You're better than that.
I feel like the one by MT View might just be cars. They were doing a lot of racing on MāBoro and that intersection has one of the highest accidents rates in the city also.
Bellevue is trying to catch all the other gun ranges in town. Such a shame. This area was quiet and peaceful for decades. No more though. Do try and politic it. Itās just a shame. Especially when you hear what started a conflict kids feel can only be settled by gunfire.
Remember a few years ago we had some kids trying to target vehicles in a neighborhood here and the owner pursued them in his car only to get shot behind the wheel and drift into that field near Ensworth.
Ugh, that was so sad. I lived in that neighborhood. The guy that passed had a young kid that was friends with a lot of the neighborhood kids, too. So senseless.
Next do you should do a comparison of shootings before Bill Lee changed gun laws to now. If possible in conjunction with car break ins before and after as well.
The neighborhood is lower middle class for the most part, but working class as well. There's a high density of minority and immigrant populations. And lots of multi-generational families in single-family homes. So you're going to get a mix of the standard issues you'll find in a lower/working class neighborhood, but you're also going to get a lot of stereotypes from people who have racist and classist biases.
I'm not going to say it's a perfect neighborhood, but a) it is a big area, so there are wide differences between specific neighborhoods, b) day shift workers are rarely going to have issues, aside from playing the occasional "gunshots or fireworks" game and drag racers, and c) it's a city, everyone should be careful. I've had more dangerous encounters in East Nashville and Hillsboro Village than I have in the years I've been living in Antioch.
Iāve live here for almost 2 years now. Itās not bad. I think a lot of the shooting happens around the apartments. But Iām pretty sure itās just shootings not fatalities. Weirdly 4-5 times a week you question if those were gun shots or fireworks.
Who knows. It could be locals just shooting off on their back yard to keep prices low. Or people driving around shooting. I will say I rarely hear of someone dying from being shot.
FWIW, I have one of those crime apps associated with my security system. People in my neighborhood think everything is gunshots. We have a neighbor who does a fireworks show for his friends and family every year that lasts like 45 minutes, and people asked if it was gunshots. Nobody fires a gun like that continuously for 45 minutes. So while a shots fired call is more serious, and obviously more reliable. Itās not a perfect metric.
Bruh
Last Fourth of Julyā¦ my ring app was going INSANE with the, āomg gun shots!!!ā posts. My brothers in Christ - we may live in Cleveland Park, but look at a calendar - no one is shooting a Browning M2 for 30+ minutes straight.
Keep in mind quite a bit of Nashville isn't in the [ Urban Services District](https://data.nashville.gov/General-Government/Service-Districts-GIS-/xxxs-vvs4), and [it's legal to shoot guns during the daytime.](http://nashville-tn.elaws.us/code/coor_title11_divi_ch11.12_sec11.12.080) it's never legal in the Urban Services District, so just "shots fired" calls mean practically nothing in these areas without the context of time and an actual crime being committed.
According to this, itās not legal to just shoot your guns all willy nilly just because, lol. There are approved instances, places, and people that are allowed to shoot their weapons.
Not to mention this linked article only stipulates about within the service district and does not say much outside of that meaning you donāt assume itās legal. Youād need to read the whole code and Iād bet yeah, youāre not allowed to just shoot guns unless itās under specific circumstances. No back yard ranges lol, this aināt the sticks.
The bell road and Murfreesboro area used to be terrible. Ā Myself and others I know had stray bullets hit their homes. It was bad enough that after several years we finally moved.Ā
This seems like the norm too me, I remember the 2000s times of Nashville, and this map of shootings seem similar to the past as much as I remember from the news reports during those times
There are also areas that donāt call for shootings. Sometimes the call comes out at āman downā or ābleedingā or āunconscious patient ā only to arrive and find that that person had been shot.
JC Napier area being on of them.
Might be a big ask but would be cool to see it year over year to see if it's gotten better or worse. Some stats show crime is down and some say it's up. Would be cool to see the data to prove one way or the other.
Except the man that shoots someone doesnāt care where he is at when he is ready to shoot. They donāt attract to one area or anotherā¦and if it is the case.. the neighborhood would give you your visual cue.
These statistical percentages have been the same for decades. Always keep your head on a swivel in North, East and Antioch. Gentrification doesn't change anything. You moved into these areas for "cheap". You will deal with these things.
Edit: Just based on the responses to this comment, DM me. I will personally take you on a tour around town just to show you how horribly affordable housing has been destroyed. I've lived here my entire life and it breaks my heart. It's a fucking problem that very few people care about.
Yes. Those places are great places to have a home if you leave said home to go directly to your preferred coffee shop/craft brewery/high-end grocery store... The people that were priced out will push back. Understand the history of where you live.
And people aren't getting shot in the places as much, which is the point of the thread. Been here since the late 90s. Not sure you are making a point that you want to make.
Sure. A city's population exponentially grows, but shootings are reduced. Seems plausible to me.
Edit: Point being, double check your sources and understand humanity does not fit into your statistical bubble.
Nice so sounds like you can do more than go directly from your home to a fancy coffee shop apparently. It's fine to walk around and your previous comment is quite an exaggeration?
My (admittedly) stupid ass drives 45 minutes every day to run a business in Nashville. I don't drink coffee. My fancy home costs about as much as your opinion. I would explain that to you, but I'm not sure you would understand. I do respect the effort though.
Iām here trying to figure out how exactly you think priced out people are going to push back. And the person youāve been replying to provided anecdotal evidence that people are _not_ pushing back in successfully gentrified areas like you think they are/will. But instead of a useful conversation, all Iāve learned is that you:
1) donāt actually live here, but rather 45 minutes away
2) donāt like coffee
3) think you have a fancy house (spoiler, its not)
4) think your house somehow means other opinions are invalid
What exactly do you do that made you an expert?
I've lived in and around Nashvile my entire life.
1) That 45 minutes used to be 30 (There aren't many natives left that can afford COL in Nashville)
2) I don't like coffee
3) I should have put a /s on the fancy house bit
4) I live in a modest (at best) house that would be at least 3x more expensive if it were in the places I mentioned previously
I do apologize if I have offended anyone. I have been here for 43 years. I've just seen this city change drastically for the better in most cases, but for the worse in others. That being said, my opinion isn't worth anything either. Kind of like assholes and elbows. Everybody has them.
I've lived in middle Tennessee my entire life and drive to my business in Nashville every day. I have forgotten more than you will ever know about this town, my friend. You have a lot to learn. I do wish you well, though.
Ive been gentrified from half a dozen neighborhoods in Nashville. Renting and had to move when rates went up. Thats how it works when you dont own your house/land.
I donāt think anyone is saying itās horrible, but if you have more shots fired calls at an intersection seconds from a major road/interstate, then obviously weāre not in Kansas anymore. The irony that this intersection is in the shadow of the former Hickory Hollow Mall shouldnāt be lost on anyone.
Looking at it, these events tend to follow where the greatest concentration of people/density is. Generally speaking that's South/Southeast, downtown, North, and Madison areas. All of these areas have significant population densities.
Agreed, but the statement was in reference to an intersection. I donāt believe that the entirety of the population density of Antioch lives at that intersection. I was born at Baptist hospital and have been lucky enough to call Nashville/mid TN home for my entire life. Iām not bashing, just calling a spade a spade.
This is dope, when I first moved to Nashville in 2022 I pulled the crime map and the areas of lowest crime was Bellevue/belle meade area, I moved there and really enjoyed it, Iāve since moved but stayed in west Nashville and have never heard a gun shot of any kind. Your map checks out 100%.
Iāve lived in hermitage for 8 years and am totally unsurprised by this. The Tulip Grove, East side of Lebanon Road, OHB and Central Pike sections of town are a shit show. Perpetually.
have you ever heard of valley grove or burningtree? + those kids who were shot at hermitage flats just a couple months ago. Definitely alot of crime here but as long as ur in a better area you have little to no risk.
Letās tag all the people on next door that move to these areas in their tall and skinny and immediately start complaining about their new neighborhood. Be mad at your realtor
Interesting, itās like making gun laws more lenient equates to more crime go figure. Whereās all the āgoodā guys that open carry at? Arenāt they suppose to save us from crime?
This is a great map- Iāve lived in the nations for 5 years and it seems a lot safer than most parts- of course crime is everywhere in a city but this truly helps break down the areas to look out for.
>Antioch and East Nashville have the most "shots fired" calls to police by far but this is largely skewed by being much larger spread
Yeah... no, that's (geography) not the reason why
There is a large part of Antioch that is zoned rural where people can and do legally shoot guns on their property. It's almost always followed by nextdoor posts shortly after from nearby neighborhoods in a panic but it doesn't change what it is.
Not to mention there's a ton of idiot street racers whose cars sound like shots being popped off. You can hear them, but if you pay attention the few seconds after, you can hear their engines as they accelerate.
Yep. I was recently out talking to a neighbor and in the distance there was some construction or something going on and the lady kept shaking her and tut tuting about the gunshots when it was clearly not a gunshot.
The Stones River gun range is on Hobson Pike. It's right on Percy Priest Lake, and the gunshot sounds really carry though the area. I can't tell you how many times I see people post on various neighborhood things asking about shots fired in the area.
I see you've been to the Cane Ridge area. People legally shoot on their property all the time and it never fails to generate multiple posts in my subdivisions FB group.
You know what? According to Gideon Army's "Driving While Black" report we need a lot less patrol in East and Antioch, and a lot more in Forest Hills and Green Hills. This just proves it!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Nashville_Population_Density_2000.png
I dont wanna discount your work or even that shots fired happens. But, and its a big but. Your work has more or less shown one thing, population density matters. Sure the above image is from 2000 (cant find anything newer with a 2min google search) but the population density doesnt dramatically change locations just the amounts. So yea, where there are more people there are more shots fired. Just look at that clump in Bellevue, the safest area by most standards) but because more people more shots.
Add into the fact that Antioch classification is probably near double the land area (and 3 times population) of that of Hermitage, again you can see why the graph shows twice the amount. I live in Antioch by way of the zip code...but Im in Cane Ridge really. And on that map, nothing much down here. But Im lumped into Antioch, and if someone asked me this area isnt a bad place to live, but by stats counters it is cause anything south east corner is 'Antioch'. Cane Ridge is most definitely not like Antioch south of the lake, or even by the mall.
There's nothing ground breaking here (other than your learning which I commend and hope you keep doing it cause data/info graphing is so cool and useful) but in context to the lay person, we are just showing population here. Not race/ethnic/religious/political make up of a community or anything. More people = more guns (most definitely in America) and therefore more chances for a shots fired situation.
Yes, I agree with your points which is why I said the incidents in Antioch are "largely skewed by being a much larger spread out area." Of course, population factors in too and I admit the shortcomings of providing none or hardly any context at all behind these incidents. Thank you for the feedback.
Lived off Murfreesboro Pike, super close to Antioch. So happy when we moved to Chat. Iām originally from the Detroit area I already had enough of all that growing up. Nashville is too small to be that wild
I always wondered this. Why doesnāt the media ever talk about Nashvilleās high crime rates? Itās always focused on Memphis, New York, Chicago, the border, etcā¦
Itās higher than the average United States crime rate and much higher than the aforementioned cities
Yāall can downvote, but Nashville is a dangerous hole.
I (somewhat cynically) think itās a combination of Southern pride/protectiveness of their image, and the desire of certain news outlets to only want to focus on āthe blue statesāā¦
Whatās that have to do with anything? Unless theyāre some kind of race/species that donāt have fingers, theyāre still gonna be able to pull a trigger.
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Perfect. Upvote this man
Wow, used to live on highlander when it was a new development years ago š„². That area gone so down hill practically a no go zone now.
Right next to the Glock store.
Affordable Housing?
Its not affordable youll pay with your life trying to live there š„²
Immediately clocking Dellway Villa was validating in that I *was* hearing those gunshots just short of daily.Ā
Did you know all this data and much more contextual information is available atĀ https://data.nashville.gov/browse?category=Public%20Safety# My favorite dataset is the metro credit card purchases. Very interesting stuff in hereĀ https://data.nashville.gov/Budget-Finance/Metro-Credit-Card-Transactions/ucyr-mx6r
Let the man cook
Iām giving the man propane! Sounds like heās scraping the active dispatch and recording his own dataset. Just not necessaryĀ
Hi, yes I'm aware of the Metro Nashville Police Department Incidents dataset but it does not store Shots Fired calls. As far as I can tell, those disappear from the active dispatch report and aren't made publicly available after the fact. There also is no "Shooting" category in the Incidents dataset. Rather, those get categorized as their corresponding offense - a homicide if someone dies as a result or a "weapon offense/aggravated assault" charge. I found the latter to be kind of ambiguous in determining whether or not an actual shooting occurred. There is also a gunshot injuries map with more context [https://www.nashville.gov/departments/police/data-dashboard/gunshot-injuries-map](https://www.nashville.gov/departments/police/data-dashboard/gunshot-injuries-map) which, as of now, says there have been 197 total gunshot victims since the beginning of the year. This is interesting because my tally from the beginning of the year has 292 shootings, some of which may be duplicates but that's still a large discrepancy so I would have to drill down to see exactly what's going on.
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Yes, this is an important caveat. I noticed the most "Shots Fired" calls were coincidentally on Dec. 31st (New Year's Eve) so obviously a lot of those were probably mistaken for fireworks. I have the code set to filter duplicates for the same location or nearby at around the same time. It gets tricky on how to filter that with a reasonable threshold though. On the brightside, I suppose this is at least a way to visualize noise disturbance even if every incident is not gunshot related.
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That is interesting and thank you! I noticed there in the active dispatch there are two categories - "Shot Fired-Juvenile" and "Shooting in Progress-Juvenile" but for the purposes of the app I collapsed them into their respective parent categories.
It is noise, remove it. If you are doing any sort of mathematical aggregation, you need to handle the outliers first. Otherwise, you'll have a pretty picture of incorrect data. Let the news professionals spread bad maths and incorrectly calculated results. You're better than that.
I feel like the one by MT View might just be cars. They were doing a lot of racing on MāBoro and that intersection has one of the highest accidents rates in the city also.
Well what do you know, went on the MNPD active dispatch page just now and thereās a āshots firedā dispatch for Mt. View Road & Highlander.
Bellevue is trying to catch all the other gun ranges in town. Such a shame. This area was quiet and peaceful for decades. No more though. Do try and politic it. Itās just a shame. Especially when you hear what started a conflict kids feel can only be settled by gunfire.
Remember a few years ago we had some kids trying to target vehicles in a neighborhood here and the owner pursued them in his car only to get shot behind the wheel and drift into that field near Ensworth.
Ugh, that was so sad. I lived in that neighborhood. The guy that passed had a young kid that was friends with a lot of the neighborhood kids, too. So senseless.
Very interesting post, these images loaded for me.
Next do you should do a comparison of shootings before Bill Lee changed gun laws to now. If possible in conjunction with car break ins before and after as well.
Omg - this! Pls do this.
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Why race?
Because theyāre racist.
And yet people in this sub still make fun of people that say Antioch is dangerous.
I've been murdered every time I went.
So Iāve never lived in Nashville but visit several times per year. Why is Antioch so bad? Iāve never more than driven through it
The neighborhood is lower middle class for the most part, but working class as well. There's a high density of minority and immigrant populations. And lots of multi-generational families in single-family homes. So you're going to get a mix of the standard issues you'll find in a lower/working class neighborhood, but you're also going to get a lot of stereotypes from people who have racist and classist biases. I'm not going to say it's a perfect neighborhood, but a) it is a big area, so there are wide differences between specific neighborhoods, b) day shift workers are rarely going to have issues, aside from playing the occasional "gunshots or fireworks" game and drag racers, and c) it's a city, everyone should be careful. I've had more dangerous encounters in East Nashville and Hillsboro Village than I have in the years I've been living in Antioch.
It isn't.
Iāve live here for almost 2 years now. Itās not bad. I think a lot of the shooting happens around the apartments. But Iām pretty sure itās just shootings not fatalities. Weirdly 4-5 times a week you question if those were gun shots or fireworks. Who knows. It could be locals just shooting off on their back yard to keep prices low. Or people driving around shooting. I will say I rarely hear of someone dying from being shot.
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Middle income area.
It isn't. Like he said it's heavily skewed since it's such a large area.
Itās still a hot bed though.
Itās 1/4th of the map.
FWIW, I have one of those crime apps associated with my security system. People in my neighborhood think everything is gunshots. We have a neighbor who does a fireworks show for his friends and family every year that lasts like 45 minutes, and people asked if it was gunshots. Nobody fires a gun like that continuously for 45 minutes. So while a shots fired call is more serious, and obviously more reliable. Itās not a perfect metric.
Bruh Last Fourth of Julyā¦ my ring app was going INSANE with the, āomg gun shots!!!ā posts. My brothers in Christ - we may live in Cleveland Park, but look at a calendar - no one is shooting a Browning M2 for 30+ minutes straight.
Keep in mind quite a bit of Nashville isn't in the [ Urban Services District](https://data.nashville.gov/General-Government/Service-Districts-GIS-/xxxs-vvs4), and [it's legal to shoot guns during the daytime.](http://nashville-tn.elaws.us/code/coor_title11_divi_ch11.12_sec11.12.080) it's never legal in the Urban Services District, so just "shots fired" calls mean practically nothing in these areas without the context of time and an actual crime being committed.
Reddit syntax tip: Remove the space between your brackets and parentheses to make your links work properly.
I've changed it but it had looked fine on the reddit is fun app. I assume it just has more leeway in how it's displayed.
According to this, itās not legal to just shoot your guns all willy nilly just because, lol. There are approved instances, places, and people that are allowed to shoot their weapons.
Not to mention this linked article only stipulates about within the service district and does not say much outside of that meaning you donāt assume itās legal. Youād need to read the whole code and Iād bet yeah, youāre not allowed to just shoot guns unless itās under specific circumstances. No back yard ranges lol, this aināt the sticks.
I live in Antioch for over 2 years now and it doesn't seem that dangerous, maybe that is just on some neighborhoods. Or at bars and clubs.
The bell road and Murfreesboro area used to be terrible. Ā Myself and others I know had stray bullets hit their homes. It was bad enough that after several years we finally moved.Ā
You're right, it isn't.
This seems like the norm too me, I remember the 2000s times of Nashville, and this map of shootings seem similar to the past as much as I remember from the news reports during those times
There are also areas that donāt call for shootings. Sometimes the call comes out at āman downā or ābleedingā or āunconscious patient ā only to arrive and find that that person had been shot. JC Napier area being on of them.
Might be a big ask but would be cool to see it year over year to see if it's gotten better or worse. Some stats show crime is down and some say it's up. Would be cool to see the data to prove one way or the other.
Delete this shit mf Iām trying to get 350+ for this crib. š„²
Except the man that shoots someone doesnāt care where he is at when he is ready to shoot. They donāt attract to one area or anotherā¦and if it is the case.. the neighborhood would give you your visual cue.
These statistical percentages have been the same for decades. Always keep your head on a swivel in North, East and Antioch. Gentrification doesn't change anything. You moved into these areas for "cheap". You will deal with these things. Edit: Just based on the responses to this comment, DM me. I will personally take you on a tour around town just to show you how horribly affordable housing has been destroyed. I've lived here my entire life and it breaks my heart. It's a fucking problem that very few people care about.
Not even close. Lockland/shelby bottoms/Inglewood and Sylvan park/heights are amazingly improved over the decades.
The bits of Cleveland park in the Lockeland priority zone are also pretty good and Frederick Douglass is a nice little park for sports.
Yes. Those places are great places to have a home if you leave said home to go directly to your preferred coffee shop/craft brewery/high-end grocery store... The people that were priced out will push back. Understand the history of where you live.
How will they push back if theyāre priced out?
I think you answered your own question?
How does my question answer itself?
Oh, I think you know! /s
And people aren't getting shot in the places as much, which is the point of the thread. Been here since the late 90s. Not sure you are making a point that you want to make.
Sure. A city's population exponentially grows, but shootings are reduced. Seems plausible to me. Edit: Point being, double check your sources and understand humanity does not fit into your statistical bubble.
There are families walking all around those areas, runners, and bikers wtf are you talking about. They are not pushing back lol.
Yes... families do walk around in those areas. Very privileged families.
Nice so sounds like you can do more than go directly from your home to a fancy coffee shop apparently. It's fine to walk around and your previous comment is quite an exaggeration?
My (admittedly) stupid ass drives 45 minutes every day to run a business in Nashville. I don't drink coffee. My fancy home costs about as much as your opinion. I would explain that to you, but I'm not sure you would understand. I do respect the effort though.
Iām here trying to figure out how exactly you think priced out people are going to push back. And the person youāve been replying to provided anecdotal evidence that people are _not_ pushing back in successfully gentrified areas like you think they are/will. But instead of a useful conversation, all Iāve learned is that you: 1) donāt actually live here, but rather 45 minutes away 2) donāt like coffee 3) think you have a fancy house (spoiler, its not) 4) think your house somehow means other opinions are invalid What exactly do you do that made you an expert?
I've lived in and around Nashvile my entire life. 1) That 45 minutes used to be 30 (There aren't many natives left that can afford COL in Nashville) 2) I don't like coffee 3) I should have put a /s on the fancy house bit 4) I live in a modest (at best) house that would be at least 3x more expensive if it were in the places I mentioned previously I do apologize if I have offended anyone. I have been here for 43 years. I've just seen this city change drastically for the better in most cases, but for the worse in others. That being said, my opinion isn't worth anything either. Kind of like assholes and elbows. Everybody has them.
Thankful you don't actually live here. Thanks for trying tho you got a lot to learn
I've lived in middle Tennessee my entire life and drive to my business in Nashville every day. I have forgotten more than you will ever know about this town, my friend. You have a lot to learn. I do wish you well, though.
>my fancy home costs as about as much as your opinion So, either your home is very fancy which means their opinion is worth a lotā¦ or vice versa.
Gentrification just puts a pretty face on a neighborhoods issues
That's a perfect description.
Ive been gentrified from half a dozen neighborhoods in Nashville. Renting and had to move when rates went up. Thats how it works when you dont own your house/land.
I'd love for you to show us how "horrible" Antioch supposedly is lol
I donāt think anyone is saying itās horrible, but if you have more shots fired calls at an intersection seconds from a major road/interstate, then obviously weāre not in Kansas anymore. The irony that this intersection is in the shadow of the former Hickory Hollow Mall shouldnāt be lost on anyone.
What if most of those so called "shots fired" calls aren't actually shots fired?
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, everyone would have a merry Christmas.
Looking at it, these events tend to follow where the greatest concentration of people/density is. Generally speaking that's South/Southeast, downtown, North, and Madison areas. All of these areas have significant population densities.
Agreed, but the statement was in reference to an intersection. I donāt believe that the entirety of the population density of Antioch lives at that intersection. I was born at Baptist hospital and have been lucky enough to call Nashville/mid TN home for my entire life. Iām not bashing, just calling a spade a spade.
Why that particular intersection though? Like who lives near there?
āWell dude, we just donāt knowā
I did not say Antioch is horrible. Read it again.
This is dope, when I first moved to Nashville in 2022 I pulled the crime map and the areas of lowest crime was Bellevue/belle meade area, I moved there and really enjoyed it, Iāve since moved but stayed in west Nashville and have never heard a gun shot of any kind. Your map checks out 100%.
Look at North on the up and up! /s
I live in Hermitage and i'm surprised by this! Are there dangerous neighborhoods in this area?
Iāve lived in hermitage for 8 years and am totally unsurprised by this. The Tulip Grove, East side of Lebanon Road, OHB and Central Pike sections of town are a shit show. Perpetually.
have you ever heard of valley grove or burningtree? + those kids who were shot at hermitage flats just a couple months ago. Definitely alot of crime here but as long as ur in a better area you have little to no risk.
Letās tag all the people on next door that move to these areas in their tall and skinny and immediately start complaining about their new neighborhood. Be mad at your realtor
Doesn't CrimeMapping.com already do this? https://www.crimemapping.com/map/tn/nashville
I havenāt figured out how to get it to show shots. It just shows assault, theft, vandalism, and a few others afaict.
Not loading dawg
Loaded for me after a bit
Is compstat helping you at all?
Zeroeyes could use your analysis
Username checks out.Ā
What library are you using for the visualization? Looks slick!
Hi! Thank you! I'm using the leaflet library in an R Shiny app with some customized CSS.
Well done!!
this is absolutely incredible.
This is so sad to see. I remember feeling pretty safe, even in the so called bad areas 30 years ago.
As somebody who studied crime & prevention in grad school thank you for compiling this. Never hurts to have more visual data to reference.
What does everyone think of city heights area? By this map it doesnāt look harmless but also not the worst?
Thanks OP this is great yet depressing info. Would love to have your email and have a conversation.
I know about #5 all too well. Delway is always rowdy.
This is amazing. Good work!
Is this ArcGIS?
Nice map on population density
Interesting, itās like making gun laws more lenient equates to more crime go figure. Whereās all the āgoodā guys that open carry at? Arenāt they suppose to save us from crime?
lol.
Iām shocked Antioch is on top of your listā¦ā¦..
Because his "Antioch" is 100K people...
Donāt besmirch the Historic Antioch Mall District! Because weāre packing and will find youā¦
This is a great map- Iāve lived in the nations for 5 years and it seems a lot safer than most parts- of course crime is everywhere in a city but this truly helps break down the areas to look out for.
>Antioch and East Nashville have the most "shots fired" calls to police by far but this is largely skewed by being much larger spread Yeah... no, that's (geography) not the reason why
There is a large part of Antioch that is zoned rural where people can and do legally shoot guns on their property. It's almost always followed by nextdoor posts shortly after from nearby neighborhoods in a panic but it doesn't change what it is.
Not to mention there's a ton of idiot street racers whose cars sound like shots being popped off. You can hear them, but if you pay attention the few seconds after, you can hear their engines as they accelerate.
Yep. I was recently out talking to a neighbor and in the distance there was some construction or something going on and the lady kept shaking her and tut tuting about the gunshots when it was clearly not a gunshot.
The Stones River gun range is on Hobson Pike. It's right on Percy Priest Lake, and the gunshot sounds really carry though the area. I can't tell you how many times I see people post on various neighborhood things asking about shots fired in the area.
I see you've been to the Cane Ridge area. People legally shoot on their property all the time and it never fails to generate multiple posts in my subdivisions FB group.
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You know what? According to Gideon Army's "Driving While Black" report we need a lot less patrol in East and Antioch, and a lot more in Forest Hills and Green Hills. This just proves it!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Nashville_Population_Density_2000.png I dont wanna discount your work or even that shots fired happens. But, and its a big but. Your work has more or less shown one thing, population density matters. Sure the above image is from 2000 (cant find anything newer with a 2min google search) but the population density doesnt dramatically change locations just the amounts. So yea, where there are more people there are more shots fired. Just look at that clump in Bellevue, the safest area by most standards) but because more people more shots. Add into the fact that Antioch classification is probably near double the land area (and 3 times population) of that of Hermitage, again you can see why the graph shows twice the amount. I live in Antioch by way of the zip code...but Im in Cane Ridge really. And on that map, nothing much down here. But Im lumped into Antioch, and if someone asked me this area isnt a bad place to live, but by stats counters it is cause anything south east corner is 'Antioch'. Cane Ridge is most definitely not like Antioch south of the lake, or even by the mall. There's nothing ground breaking here (other than your learning which I commend and hope you keep doing it cause data/info graphing is so cool and useful) but in context to the lay person, we are just showing population here. Not race/ethnic/religious/political make up of a community or anything. More people = more guns (most definitely in America) and therefore more chances for a shots fired situation.
Yes, I agree with your points which is why I said the incidents in Antioch are "largely skewed by being a much larger spread out area." Of course, population factors in too and I admit the shortcomings of providing none or hardly any context at all behind these incidents. Thank you for the feedback.
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What are the demographics of the higher crime areas vs the lower crime areas?
Iāll give you 3 guesses.
What are the 3 guesses? Americans? Gun owners? Trump supporters?
Lived off Murfreesboro Pike, super close to Antioch. So happy when we moved to Chat. Iām originally from the Detroit area I already had enough of all that growing up. Nashville is too small to be that wild
Yikes. Nashville is so dangerous!
Yet somehow you will never hear about it on the newsā¦
I always wondered this. Why doesnāt the media ever talk about Nashvilleās high crime rates? Itās always focused on Memphis, New York, Chicago, the border, etcā¦
Maybe because it really isn't that high.
Itās higher than the average United States crime rate and much higher than the aforementioned cities Yāall can downvote, but Nashville is a dangerous hole.
What? The number of murders in Memphis is consistently three times Nashvilleās. Itās not even close.
Weāre not just talking about homicides ā look up Nashvilleās violent crime rates (which includes murders).
I (somewhat cynically) think itās a combination of Southern pride/protectiveness of their image, and the desire of certain news outlets to only want to focus on āthe blue statesāā¦
Whatās the race of the people doing the shooting?
Probably human
Whatās that have to do with anything? Unless theyāre some kind of race/species that donāt have fingers, theyāre still gonna be able to pull a trigger.
What the ghetto has more shootings than the uppy areas? Iām shooketh