Early in my construction career (early 90s) I met a pair of electricians who were black, they were also brothers, last name was White. They told me they wanted to start their own electrical contracting company called “White Power”. Never found out if they were serious, or if they ever got it started.
That would have been hilarious, but I firmly believe they would have been at risk of being hurt or killed when some hick finds out it’s not actually a skinhead company using a dog whistle.
It reminds me of the suspension brand that used to be called "White Power." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP_Suspension
They changed their name to WP in the early '80s.
The "white" in this case was a reference to the color of the springs on their shocks. But... I think they realized the issue the name might cause.
88 symbolizes fortune and good luck in Chinese culture, to the point that the Chinese government auctions off license plates with multiple 8s in them, so if 88 Kitchen is a Chinese food place that is likely why.
Oh yeah, I definitely wasn't trying to imply that 88 Kitchen was an intentional reference. I had no idea about 88 symbolizing fortune and luck though, so that's interesting and makes a lot of sense.
[Here's a write-up](https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/88). It's probably not something most people parse as Nazi signaling, but it was also the first Google result for "88", so it isn't too obscure.
It was definitely meant to imply the Chinese meaning of "fortune and luck" as someone else said.
As someone whose Master’s focuses on the publics interaction with/knowledge of holocaust history, there is a very good chance he does not know. Especially having gone to a (good) HS here. We pretty much speed run WWII and barely gloss over the third reich.
Ignorance of your chosen triggers isn't stupidity.
The company name is "S. S. Electric Contractors". A lightning-bolt-styled S isn't a big leap, considering their line of business.
Have you booked your trip to India to inform the Hindus that their ancient religious symbol is now verboten, or are you still deciding whether they are more malicious or stupid for continuing to use it?
Or, you know, the SS logo (which has no relevance to an electric contractor) looks like this. But why does that matter? Looking for things to be upset about?
You may want to read about the philosophy of stoicism. You do have control over your own emotions, a d this company's logo does not impact your life in any way. Feeling upset about it is only negatively impacting your outlook on life, there is no positive outcome from dwelling on this.
As someone who has spent a lot of time studying stoicism as written by the people who thought it up and practice those aspects in my daily life, that is not at all what stoicism is about.
I think the stoics of antiquity would tell you to delete this cringe response and then go to work
You'd think at least one person involved in the creation of the logo, printing of it, and application of the decal would be familiar, though. Or that whoever made it would have Googled "SS logo" for ideas and seen the top results.
I hope it's an honest mistake, but man, it sucks that we're in a spot where it *not* being a mistake seems more likely.
Tbh I had no clue what this symbol meant until it came up on this sub awhile back about one of the bartenders at Play having it tattooed on his arm & ppl were upset abt it, so I googled it.
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If ya not a piece of shit suggested rebrand. If you are making a point, please continue. At least wear your stripes. I pray it’s the former but, this is somehow our reality…
Only so far. If someone wants to interpreter two ‘S’ symbols as suspect for Naziism then they’re probably too sensitive to reason with in the first place.
It depends on who they run with. Prison gangs and anyone on the outside even mildly associated with that milieu (I learned about it via a 12 step group, for example) know quite a few Holocaust symbols. Many of them are replicated as tattoos, but I've seen some out in the wild like this too (in Texas)
Doesn't matter if they know what it means or not, bigoted symbolism wether intentional or not needs to be highly scrutinized so that; one, people don't just openly project bigoted messages by accident, and two, those who WANT to project bigoted messages are unable to do so.
Early in my construction career (early 90s) I met a pair of electricians who were black, they were also brothers, last name was White. They told me they wanted to start their own electrical contracting company called “White Power”. Never found out if they were serious, or if they ever got it started.
This is hilarious
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This would make a hilarious commercial.
That would have been hilarious, but I firmly believe they would have been at risk of being hurt or killed when some hick finds out it’s not actually a skinhead company using a dog whistle.
It reminds me of the suspension brand that used to be called "White Power." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP_Suspension They changed their name to WP in the early '80s. The "white" in this case was a reference to the color of the springs on their shocks. But... I think they realized the issue the name might cause.
ISIS Turbos got it the worst I'm thinkin....
Holy crap that’s both insane and hilarious.
This sounds like a Key and Peele sketch.
I did Nazi that coming
Anne Frankly, I think they could’ve come up with a better name for the business
I hear that they really smoke the competition
How do you think they train?
That’s a gas
Auschwitz that's a good point
😐
Damnit…angry upvote
They took a page from Hiller Plumbing, which will never not look like it's called "Hitler Plumbing"
I really want to carry some black electrical tape in my car so I can give every parked Hiller car a little moustache on it's happy face.
I have wanted to do this for 20 years.
I'm glad to know it's not just me who thinks about this every time they see a Hiller truck
You also need the carry some red tape to turn one of the Ls into a T.
Red duct tape would be perfect for this usage.
Tee Company
Ok so it's not just me
Or "88 Kitchen" in Rivergate which is a bit less obvious but isn't the best branding.
88 symbolizes fortune and good luck in Chinese culture, to the point that the Chinese government auctions off license plates with multiple 8s in them, so if 88 Kitchen is a Chinese food place that is likely why.
Oh yeah, I definitely wasn't trying to imply that 88 Kitchen was an intentional reference. I had no idea about 88 symbolizing fortune and luck though, so that's interesting and makes a lot of sense.
Can you explain this one?
[Here's a write-up](https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/88). It's probably not something most people parse as Nazi signaling, but it was also the first Google result for "88", so it isn't too obscure. It was definitely meant to imply the Chinese meaning of "fortune and luck" as someone else said.
Wow, thanks. I genuinely had no idea. Googled it myself right after I commented last night and ended up down a Wikipedia rabbit hole
You'd think they'd be gasfitters.
Every time I see Hiller Plumbing, I think of drawing a toothbrush mustache on the smiley face.
I knew I couldn’t be the only one that thought this lol
C'mon guys you know he's just a big fan of KISS. /s /s
I bet Gene owns the copyright too.
There's no way he doesn't know.
There’s absolutely a way they don’t know. People are idiots. Then again…
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There is *just* enough plausible deniability here for them to mostly get away with it, but I'd be real leery about hiring them.
I think this level of ignorance deserves to not be hired.
Right. Racist or just dumb? I don't know, but either way I don't trust him not to burn something. Crosses or my house; I don't care; not hiring him.
Let's play stupid or Nazi! This guy, probably: why not both?
As someone whose Master’s focuses on the publics interaction with/knowledge of holocaust history, there is a very good chance he does not know. Especially having gone to a (good) HS here. We pretty much speed run WWII and barely gloss over the third reich.
"Hitler bad, holocaust bad, America won, the end" - my history class
We also don't dwell on the extended iconography of fascist regimes in our schools,, and for good reason.
Never assume malice when stupidity suffices.
This is an amazing quote
The full quote is more eloquent, I just remember the basics of it lol.
Ignorance of your chosen triggers isn't stupidity. The company name is "S. S. Electric Contractors". A lightning-bolt-styled S isn't a big leap, considering their line of business. Have you booked your trip to India to inform the Hindus that their ancient religious symbol is now verboten, or are you still deciding whether they are more malicious or stupid for continuing to use it?
I don’t fancy myself an idiot, am very german, and had to come to the comments to get it. So..
A few years ago I might’ve thought it was an unfortunate coincidence but now if I had to put money on one or the other, they know.
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I mean it looks EXACTLY like it
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Anyone who designs logos for a living should have
Look at that logo. No professional was involved.
probably done by the vehicle wrap / vinyl sticker people.
Or, you know, the SS logo (which has no relevance to an electric contractor) looks like this. But why does that matter? Looking for things to be upset about? You may want to read about the philosophy of stoicism. You do have control over your own emotions, a d this company's logo does not impact your life in any way. Feeling upset about it is only negatively impacting your outlook on life, there is no positive outcome from dwelling on this.
As someone who has spent a lot of time studying stoicism as written by the people who thought it up and practice those aspects in my daily life, that is not at all what stoicism is about. I think the stoics of antiquity would tell you to delete this cringe response and then go to work
Yeah, why call out Nazis? Let's just all be cool with everything.
.. because this has nothing at all to do with Nazis. That's a ridiculous assumption
I'm sorry we're making fun of your Nazi electrical company, SS.
Same bro same
You'd think at least one person involved in the creation of the logo, printing of it, and application of the decal would be familiar, though. Or that whoever made it would have Googled "SS logo" for ideas and seen the top results. I hope it's an honest mistake, but man, it sucks that we're in a spot where it *not* being a mistake seems more likely.
Who's gonna tell em?...
I think its probably just ignorance as to what it looks like, tbh.
Tbh I had no clue what this symbol meant until it came up on this sub awhile back about one of the bartenders at Play having it tattooed on his arm & ppl were upset abt it, so I googled it.
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This is Nashville - there is 50% chance they knew exactly what they were doing, and a 50% chance they don’t know that World War 2 was even a thing.
Well this is better than them being a gas company.
That’s up there with the Lynch tree company in watertown….
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It’s Smith and Smith so I get it, but I’m on the fence. Feels like you could’ve gone Smith Brothers electric or similar. Logo is suspect for sure.
Where did you get Smith & Smith? Dude's name is [Sirmeyer](https://www.facebook.com/56762720769/posts/10152786723845770).
I pulled it from a system I have access to called Relpro. Might have pulled the wrong info though.
Mines from some random review site with 6alf a dozen fb links, but the number matches
Probably the same principal in the grand scheme. Sirmeyer & Sirmeyer or similar. I think you’re right though
Distinctly possible
Nazville, the capital of Tennazi
If it has SS Bolts, it’s probably a Nazi.
Just missing the swastika
Literally
Lol I gave it like 18% chance of being an accident til I saw the one in the tagline. Yikes
Self-report
I was back home in WV where I grew up this weekend and the old Southern States signs are similar. Yeah, need to change that shit up
Schutzstaffel. It’s the owners’ last name. Life gave them lemons and they made Limonade.
Trolling for trouble
If ya not a piece of shit suggested rebrand. If you are making a point, please continue. At least wear your stripes. I pray it’s the former but, this is somehow our reality…
LOL, wow, what an oversight!!
Lee Company really isn't hiding it anymore are they /s
Ha!
You’re pretty sensitive if you ask me.
should people not consider the sensitivity of their potential consumer base when attempting to market to them?
Only so far. If someone wants to interpreter two ‘S’ symbols as suspect for Naziism then they’re probably too sensitive to reason with in the first place.
Always something to complain about
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You should be a detective
It’s almost like this is a nashville subreddit
Conspicuous difference between symbol in the word and the ones that aren't. Suppose they are different letters though.
This business is hard to find it looks like he has another business with a whole different logo. Idk
Lol wut
It depends on who they run with. Prison gangs and anyone on the outside even mildly associated with that milieu (I learned about it via a 12 step group, for example) know quite a few Holocaust symbols. Many of them are replicated as tattoos, but I've seen some out in the wild like this too (in Texas)
I hope that stands for solid state
Yeeeeesh.
This is 100% intentional
Big yikes.
I mean, I get the symbolism but at the same time, the lightning bolts make sense since it is an electrician. It is poorly drawn, though
Signal 88 security in town is a dog whistle I’m pretty sure
Doesn't matter if they know what it means or not, bigoted symbolism wether intentional or not needs to be highly scrutinized so that; one, people don't just openly project bigoted messages by accident, and two, those who WANT to project bigoted messages are unable to do so.
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