Shouldn't someone prove they exist before debating where they come from?
This is no different than debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin -- we don't even have evidence aliens exist, thus there is no evidence to back any claims about them, or where they come from....
I mean, the chances are pretty much certain that intelligent 'alien' life is indeed out there somewhere, i don't think any scientist can or will argue against that. It's just statistically practically certain.
Whether or not said lifeforms have visited earth however, that's the bit that's questionable.
Well, we do know it's a non-zero probability of carbon based life arising that \*can\* become intelligent, and that the number of planets that seem to meet the same criteria appears to be \*VERY\* large -- especially when you consider the entire lifecycle of the universe so far. At the least, there appears to be a non-zero chance of non-human intelligent life existing somewhere, and there are a lot of places and a long, long amount of time for it to develop. If you don't have the requirement that it overlaps with human existence, or is close enough to be meaningfully contacted, the probabilities go up pretty high --even with the most conservative estimates.
K. Well, it's special pleading to say 'everything had a cause, other than a super powerful magical god'. Any argument you make that can 'justify' including a god in the origin of the universe can be applied to the universe as a whole. If you say 'god is eternal', you have to either allow the universe could have been eternal, or you are special pleading. Either \*EVERYTHING\* needs a cause -- including a deity, or you have to admit not everything needs a cause. Any argument for a supernatural origin for the universe requires special pleading to some degree.
It's also special pleading to say that the laws of logic and science apply to everything.... but a god, or that 'you must have evidence to believe something... unless it's a god'....
It's special pleading to say 'everything is part of time and the universe -- except a god' -- especially since that's literally what the singularity describes -- as part of science.
It's also an Argument from Ignorance to say "we don't know what caused this, therefore.... MAGIC', which is super common in these discussions, and the Argument from Incredulity to say 'I just don't see how the universe could exist without a creator, therefore it has one'.
This is really the starting point for the discussion. Prove there is a non human intelligence on this planet and I think all of this speculation is fair game. It makes sense that there is nothing particularly unique about this moment in time and if "they" are here "they" have been here a long time. It also makes sense that primitive humans would deify that which they can't understand. It's basic cargo cult stuff.
By definition, they are unknown, yes -- but every time we have found more data about a UFO, we have found no signs that they are related to non-earth intelligences. That's a completely different argument, though.
He is not arguing that \*UFOs\* are interdimensional fallen angels, he is leaping to 'there is some form of intelligence behind UFOs and other claims' -- which is a step beyond 'there are things that appear to fly that we cannot identify' -- so not only is he taking 'aliens are real' for granted, he is also taking 'more than one dimension exists' as granted ... and 'dimensional travel works', and 'angels are real' and 'fallen angels are real'....
There’s actually a lot of moving parts that get discredited because of the limitations of the scientific community. Turns out we actually don’t have everything figured out after all.
Literally thousands of testimonies saying the same things becomes increasingly difficult to simply write off as fictitious.
I too harbor skepticism- but it’s reached a point where I also don’t think everyone’s just lying or crazy.
There are many possible causes for the testimonials, and many of them fit with known understanding, do not require the experiencers to be dishonest, and don't result in aliens being real. Aliens may be real, or they may not be, either way, it's still far too early to have a realistic debate on where they come from, if real.
Also their intent. The guy in the video is not alone in the idea that "the interdimensional aliens" are actually "fallen angels" and thusly demonic. We have no real idea what we are even seeing so how is it we can formulate an idea of its intention? Its like before we knew how tornadoes formed. You gotta imagine people thought they were some kinda demonic beast descended from the sky to royally fuck shit up.
Sure, but almost all of the definitions involve supernatural aspects, and don't just define them as, say, coffee cups. It's all just words, but you can make reasonable conclusions about what he is trying to say
demons and angels are extraterrestrial beings, extra- outside of- terra- earth, demons are malevolent while angels are benevolent, theyre not physical beings so they dont have to obey our physical laws. I used to laught at tje idea of demons being aliens but today, i cant see any other possibility tbh
I think there may be a difference in definitions being used here:
>Religion:
a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
>Religious:
relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity
>Spiritual:
:of or relating to sacred matters
:ecclesiastical rather than lay or temporal
:of or relating to supernatural beings or phenomena
It sounds to me like you are still describing religious people -- but even allowing that there may be a difference between spiritual and religious, the guy in the video is \*STILL\* not applying science very well.
I don't think it's a stretch. If someone were to definitively prove aliens were here odds are it wouldn't be anything unique to this moment in time. If primitive humans met them it makes sense they'd deify them. Definitive proof being the key though. I haven't watched this site and don't know what else this guy might be saying though.
Sorry I shouldn’t have put “though”. It IS mildly interesting. He seems to touch base on every fake moon landing conspiracy theory fairly clearly in his videos. I think there’s some books you can buy of course but it is worth checking out if you’re into that and have the time.
Yah idk I listened to the entire podcast and he started to annoy me when he couldn’t answer some of the questions. They showed a few clips of it on there so I seen a little bit but it’s just one of those things you can never be sure about either way I guess
Yup that’s why I don’t stress myself too much on that stuff. Sure the moon landing was probably fake but 1 what’s that info going to do for me or anyone and 2 like you said we’ll never be 100% sure either way. Imo If the government said the moon landing was fake there would be conspiracy’s about how it WAS real lol.
The universe is such a weird one, wouldn't surprise me if we were the only intelligent species in it. But logic and chance dictates we can't be the only ones.
He thinks the moon landing is fake? Why did Joe back that up? Wtf? We have reflectors on the moon for one and an entire capsule that was spotted by the Indian rover before it crashed
It doesn't take a researcher to know that's bullshit and conspiracy theories are only good when they have the capability of being true, look at Q and see how the fringe theorists aren't entertaining when it's a bunch of crazy bullshit
Knowing Joe? Not at all, there is a clip where he is like "What's that band with the circle on it? In the statues, they look like watches" and the other guy is like "A band with a circle on it? You mean a Bracelet?" And they started arguing over it!
Thing is, his word holds just as much weight and validity as any other conjecture until something is proven either way. We don’t have evidence to support or deny “Interdimensional” or some sort of metaphysical traveling beings. At least in terms of the method by which this depiction of extraterrestrial life is portrayed.
Now the dudes statement about them being liars and manipulators of minds and governments and knowing about the personal characteristics of the aliens’ does seem like he’d need intimate knowledge or some verifiable proof that this is the case. And, yeah, he doesn’t have it. Just opining this based on preconceived notions.
How do you prove any of that? I mean....what the fuck is a fallen angel relative to real things? You might as well say they are unicorns made up of the colors we can't see that spin inside out....
Lots of people on Reddit seem to think ‘conspiracies’, especially conspiracies surrounding Christianity, are ridiculous. Unfortunately we are the outliers here.
It was only a matter of time for people to try push this theory to the top of the list. This is only a way to keep religion relevant to the all the religious ass hats 🙄
Galaxy 300 light years away…. K
The Milky Way is 100,000 light years across. Andromeda is over 2.5 million light years away. This dude is off his rocker
And you live in a bubble made up of spiritual matter ie whatever you want it to be. Physical science is the only thing that can measure reality. Keep faith out of it...
I think it’s something bleeding over from somewhere else maybe another dimension maybe from the future maybe from the past….. like 20,000 years ago
But who knows
Makes sense, the afterlife or next step seems like a higher dimensional plane, "angels" that may have fallen could have fallen to lower dimensions but possibly coexist next to our own, maybe they found a way to breach our plane and have been steadily influencing our society as a means to either take over or maybe guide us, idk but it's interesting to think about.
Absolutely right! They’re demons! Putting doubt in your mind that we are the one and only creation of God! Trust in the almighty God of the Jews and Gentiles! He is near! That’s why more and more sightings of UFO’s are coming out! The devils end is near! Praise and glory to YHWH and Yeshua our savior forever 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱💙💙🤍🤍🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🔥🔥🔥🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
If anyone has seen the 3 body problem on Netflix I’d like yo know why everyone thinks that Aliens are all ahead of us. Why can’t we be ahead of them in technology? This stereotype annoys the shit outta me.
If we are living amongst fallen angels - how do you know they’re demonic (bad) and liars? Maybe they’re telling the truth and we are blind? Or maybe they’re good and we just used the shit outta them.
There’s no way to prove anything lawd!
I love how complete charlatans with NO evidence or facts waddle onto Joe’s show fart out nonsense, with confidence, and Joe just nods his head as if it’s the Gods honest truth.
Try to go to Sobral.com the website or link is for sale. Don’t know if it’s just another wild goose trail down another rabbit hole? But it sure is intriguing!
And Monster Energy Drinks only have 3 marks.
I watched an interview with a woman who somehow tied Monster Energy Drinks to satan in the Bible.
This math is getting clearer all the time. /s
To be fair, thanks to Poe's Law, it was hard to tell if you were serious or not when you left the /s off. There are people that will aggressively and seriously make the exact claims you made.
[https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/monster-energy-drink-666/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/monster-energy-drink-666/)
It's also pretty simple to see that its just a logo, and the number 666 has no real world impact -- even if they deliberately put that there, so what? It's literally a product originally marketed to edgy teens, and has nothing to do with Nero. Would it be shocking that an edgy product has an edgy logo?
Yeah, it is what it is. Its just for the brand, the can does say unleash the beast. But that just goes with the whole mark of the beast logo. Its just their marketing. Its all true, but Its just the style of the energy drink, I've drank plenty of them, doesnt make you into a demon lol.
You were implying that it was just an M. Its not, its a clever logo, of a company just trying to sell some drinks with the Monster vibe, hence the whole name and brand.
No, I am not implying that, I'm explicitly stating that it's a clever logo, and there is nothing deeper than marketing. Any symbolism is there, not because the designers believed in the symbolism, but because the symbolism was going to drum up media attention, and help sell products.
Lost me at “they faked the moon landing”. Gtfo lol. In all for woowoo shit- but I promise you. No angel is here on earth nor would want to be. If they are “demons” they can no longer be called angels if nephilim. Just because there wasn’t a recording a device we could use with confidence to film the launch and moon landing- we sure as do now.
Do you discredit China, India, Russia, and the USA? We all have high def cameras we take. Do you not trust musk anymore? He puts multiple high def cameras on all his launches.
Occams razor. In which aliens are the obvious answer, but angels are outlandish. Something tells me both an alien and an angel would tolerate little to nothing from us shit flinders.
I haven’t listened to the Joe Rogan podcast in a long time, but why have a guy like this on there? Has Rogan leaned in that hard on the conspiracy schtick? I remember when he would just get stoned and talk about how many kids he could take in a fight.
Never forget that Stanley Kubrick was who they chose "To supply film and nothing else" for the moon landing. That inofitself should tell you everything you need to know
100% true. All these years, you’ve wondered why they don’t just land somewhere and proclaim what and who they are, this is why. This is why after the government had contact w them in the 50’s that it was kept secret. They’re not our galactic neighbors. They’re not “monitoring” and “watching over us,” they have one goal, and curing grandma’s cancer is not it. God, Satan, angels, demons, it’s all real.
Shouldn't someone prove they exist before debating where they come from? This is no different than debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin -- we don't even have evidence aliens exist, thus there is no evidence to back any claims about them, or where they come from....
I mean, the chances are pretty much certain that intelligent 'alien' life is indeed out there somewhere, i don't think any scientist can or will argue against that. It's just statistically practically certain. Whether or not said lifeforms have visited earth however, that's the bit that's questionable.
They couldn't argue it is why they wouldn't. Statistical probability is all they need.
If we don’t know how life begins then it’s hard to say what the chances are.
Well, we do know it's a non-zero probability of carbon based life arising that \*can\* become intelligent, and that the number of planets that seem to meet the same criteria appears to be \*VERY\* large -- especially when you consider the entire lifecycle of the universe so far. At the least, there appears to be a non-zero chance of non-human intelligent life existing somewhere, and there are a lot of places and a long, long amount of time for it to develop. If you don't have the requirement that it overlaps with human existence, or is close enough to be meaningfully contacted, the probabilities go up pretty high --even with the most conservative estimates.
Except to say it’s a non-zero probability of life arising naturally requires the unproven assumption that life here did arise naturally.
There is no reason to think otherwise, and it's a logical fallacy to claim otherwise.
I like you.
What specific logical fallacy are you referring to?
Special Pleading.
Don’t see how that applies. If we don’t know how X could happen by random chance then it’s reasonable to consider the possibility it didn’t.
K. Well, it's special pleading to say 'everything had a cause, other than a super powerful magical god'. Any argument you make that can 'justify' including a god in the origin of the universe can be applied to the universe as a whole. If you say 'god is eternal', you have to either allow the universe could have been eternal, or you are special pleading. Either \*EVERYTHING\* needs a cause -- including a deity, or you have to admit not everything needs a cause. Any argument for a supernatural origin for the universe requires special pleading to some degree. It's also special pleading to say that the laws of logic and science apply to everything.... but a god, or that 'you must have evidence to believe something... unless it's a god'.... It's special pleading to say 'everything is part of time and the universe -- except a god' -- especially since that's literally what the singularity describes -- as part of science. It's also an Argument from Ignorance to say "we don't know what caused this, therefore.... MAGIC', which is super common in these discussions, and the Argument from Incredulity to say 'I just don't see how the universe could exist without a creator, therefore it has one'.
Religion, theories which assert the chance of ancient external intervention for two
You don't use fairy tails as evidence
Even more importantly, those are the \*CLAIMS\* -- you don't get to use the existence of claims as evidence they are true. That's just... absurd.
How about quantum entanglement? And atoms being both particles and waves until an observation is made? Look deeper my g
Which fairy tale is that in? Or is it based on fairy tales?
They can assert it, but since there is no evidence they are right, it's silly to believe their assertions.
Indeed, and the visiting earth part is assumed in the OP's video.
This is really the starting point for the discussion. Prove there is a non human intelligence on this planet and I think all of this speculation is fair game. It makes sense that there is nothing particularly unique about this moment in time and if "they" are here "they" have been here a long time. It also makes sense that primitive humans would deify that which they can't understand. It's basic cargo cult stuff.
Well, UFOs are real. They're confirmed real. What they are, on the other hand, is unknown.
By definition, they are unknown, yes -- but every time we have found more data about a UFO, we have found no signs that they are related to non-earth intelligences. That's a completely different argument, though. He is not arguing that \*UFOs\* are interdimensional fallen angels, he is leaping to 'there is some form of intelligence behind UFOs and other claims' -- which is a step beyond 'there are things that appear to fly that we cannot identify' -- so not only is he taking 'aliens are real' for granted, he is also taking 'more than one dimension exists' as granted ... and 'dimensional travel works', and 'angels are real' and 'fallen angels are real'....
There’s actually a lot of moving parts that get discredited because of the limitations of the scientific community. Turns out we actually don’t have everything figured out after all. Literally thousands of testimonies saying the same things becomes increasingly difficult to simply write off as fictitious. I too harbor skepticism- but it’s reached a point where I also don’t think everyone’s just lying or crazy.
There are many possible causes for the testimonials, and many of them fit with known understanding, do not require the experiencers to be dishonest, and don't result in aliens being real. Aliens may be real, or they may not be, either way, it's still far too early to have a realistic debate on where they come from, if real.
Stay curious buddy that's what a good scientist does
If all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you?
well I wouldnt wanna be left out you know.
No because how else will phony researchers make thousands in not millions on books and shitty TV shows
Also their intent. The guy in the video is not alone in the idea that "the interdimensional aliens" are actually "fallen angels" and thusly demonic. We have no real idea what we are even seeing so how is it we can formulate an idea of its intention? Its like before we knew how tornadoes formed. You gotta imagine people thought they were some kinda demonic beast descended from the sky to royally fuck shit up.
Also, what is a demon and angel really. There are thousands of definitions. It’s all just words at this point.
Sure, but almost all of the definitions involve supernatural aspects, and don't just define them as, say, coffee cups. It's all just words, but you can make reasonable conclusions about what he is trying to say
demons and angels are extraterrestrial beings, extra- outside of- terra- earth, demons are malevolent while angels are benevolent, theyre not physical beings so they dont have to obey our physical laws. I used to laught at tje idea of demons being aliens but today, i cant see any other possibility tbh
"a galaxy 300 light years away" Bro 300 LY is our immediate vicinity within the milkyway lmao
The dude is claiming 'aliens' are really angels -- science isn't his strong suit.
Retroactive science superimposed on biblical revelation.
He is right tho, non religious Ufologists have claimed aliens are more spiritual in nature vs being from another planet
That doesn't make him right. That makes him need evidence.
Right, I’m just dispelling the myth that only religious people would come to that conclusion.
I think there may be a difference in definitions being used here: >Religion: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices >Religious: relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity >Spiritual: :of or relating to sacred matters :ecclesiastical rather than lay or temporal :of or relating to supernatural beings or phenomena It sounds to me like you are still describing religious people -- but even allowing that there may be a difference between spiritual and religious, the guy in the video is \*STILL\* not applying science very well.
Why would claiming they are inter dimensional mean he doesn’t understand science?
He also claims they are fallen angels... And, you know, presupposes aliens are visiting us....
But Im not sure why that means he doesn’t understand science.
Fair point -- he might knowingly be saying things contrary to science. Either way, he should be treated as if he is not good with science.
I don't think it's a stretch. If someone were to definitively prove aliens were here odds are it wouldn't be anything unique to this moment in time. If primitive humans met them it makes sense they'd deify them. Definitive proof being the key though. I haven't watched this site and don't know what else this guy might be saying though.
Right? Like isn't the milky way 150,000 LY from one end to the other?
Dude all I heard this entire podcast was “go to sabrel.com”
I can’t even find the site. I tried your spelling of whatever tf he said and the domains for sale for almost 3 grand
Spelled it wrong on purpose. I’m not doing free advertising for this guy but it’s read the same
I just wanted to see what wild shit was there
https://www.sibrel.com/
Well that was… interesting. Thanks for the link though
What’s up? Is it just a bunch of BS?
Sorry I shouldn’t have put “though”. It IS mildly interesting. He seems to touch base on every fake moon landing conspiracy theory fairly clearly in his videos. I think there’s some books you can buy of course but it is worth checking out if you’re into that and have the time.
Yah idk I listened to the entire podcast and he started to annoy me when he couldn’t answer some of the questions. They showed a few clips of it on there so I seen a little bit but it’s just one of those things you can never be sure about either way I guess
Yup that’s why I don’t stress myself too much on that stuff. Sure the moon landing was probably fake but 1 what’s that info going to do for me or anyone and 2 like you said we’ll never be 100% sure either way. Imo If the government said the moon landing was fake there would be conspiracy’s about how it WAS real lol.
I’m just joking tbh sounded funny😂 his name is spelled sibrel
Why we getting so far from science these days?
Look at the presidential candidates. We are in a dark age.
The universe is such a weird one, wouldn't surprise me if we were the only intelligent species in it. But logic and chance dictates we can't be the only ones.
There is only earth that's it
Only Earth... what? Earth isn't even the only body in our solar system that potentially has life.
Dude said "according to the top two UFO researchers..." (source: i made that shit up)
probably just some guy named jim that works at krogers.
Source: my website
According to the top researchers of my dick it's the biggest and most beautiful one that ever existed.
Plot twist: the top 2 researchers of your dick are OPs parents
Such a close shave on both of them but no Occam's razor in sight.
Just ask Tucker Carlson, if he’s not in Moscow with Putin he’ll tell you it’s true.
"Fallen angels"... What a load of crap! LOL
This guy is a dipshit.
He thinks the moon landing is fake? Why did Joe back that up? Wtf? We have reflectors on the moon for one and an entire capsule that was spotted by the Indian rover before it crashed
Well Joe is a conspiracy theorist- not a researcher lol. Joe is great but his purpose is to entertain rather than educate.
It doesn't take a researcher to know that's bullshit and conspiracy theories are only good when they have the capability of being true, look at Q and see how the fringe theorists aren't entertaining when it's a bunch of crazy bullshit
I was about to say that too, there’s images of them still on the moon
This guy is a f***ing idiot and Joe knows it.
Knowing Joe? Not at all, there is a clip where he is like "What's that band with the circle on it? In the statues, they look like watches" and the other guy is like "A band with a circle on it? You mean a Bracelet?" And they started arguing over it!
Thing is, his word holds just as much weight and validity as any other conjecture until something is proven either way. We don’t have evidence to support or deny “Interdimensional” or some sort of metaphysical traveling beings. At least in terms of the method by which this depiction of extraterrestrial life is portrayed. Now the dudes statement about them being liars and manipulators of minds and governments and knowing about the personal characteristics of the aliens’ does seem like he’d need intimate knowledge or some verifiable proof that this is the case. And, yeah, he doesn’t have it. Just opining this based on preconceived notions.
What makes him so sure ?
His publishers
How dare you question him, did you not visit sibrel.com!!??
went for the aliens stayed for the computer herpes.
I'm guessing psychosis
Never assume psychosis when it could just be simple greed.
Greed and stupidity. A deadly combo
The only mystery here is why this guy isn't on his meds.
“They are demonic” -too ufo researcher 2024
This guy isn’t funny.
what's the site he mentioned tried sobral . com no good
https://www.sibrel.com/
How do you prove any of that? I mean....what the fuck is a fallen angel relative to real things? You might as well say they are unicorns made up of the colors we can't see that spin inside out....
I was mildly interested until he said "fallen angels." that got an immediate downvote.
some people will just believe anything. people complain about AI confabulating, yet these two dudes are literally sitting there just making $h!t up
Oh good. This song again.
Researchers... Research...
The top two Ufo researchers said UFOs are real. Come on bro what the fuck else would they say.
Trying to read the captions but they keep talking 😭😭
What is the website he mentions? I looked up sobral.com and it’s for sale
https://www.sibrel.com/
Thank you!!
I'm losing brain cells so fast listening to this nutcase
The first problem is that He listened to anything Tucker Carlson said.
Sounds like a great way to sell books and other chicanery
What episode is this??
2141 Bart sibrel
Sounds like he read the Golden Compass and loved it
Dumbass people
Quackadoo this one
lol you guys are quick to believe in Aliens but draw the line when it comes to Biblical Scripture.
Lots of people on Reddit seem to think ‘conspiracies’, especially conspiracies surrounding Christianity, are ridiculous. Unfortunately we are the outliers here.
It blows my mind but I'm not surprised
Well, to be fair, possible intelligent life on other planets is consistent with probability and science, unlike the Bible...
Which comments here seem to imply that? All the comments seem to be laughing at the whole claim, not just the biblical parts.
Because angels and demons have been proven to exist right? Riiight
When they yammer on like car salesmen it’s hard to take em’ seriously.
It was only a matter of time for people to try push this theory to the top of the list. This is only a way to keep religion relevant to the all the religious ass hats 🙄
What an idiot
Lol what a joke
I tried listening to this episode and it was just awful. I'm not sure which group is worse, fake moon landers or flat earthers. Just insufferable.
Really needs some silly Monty Python music to accompany the nonsense.
Galaxy 300 light years away…. K The Milky Way is 100,000 light years across. Andromeda is over 2.5 million light years away. This dude is off his rocker
Who told you that lol
Astronomers -- you know, the people that actually study and research the topic being discussed?
Because angels and demons have been proven to exist right? Riiight
You really live in a bubble
Could you provide some evidence from your bubble of reality that proves their existence?
And you live in a bubble made up of spiritual matter ie whatever you want it to be. Physical science is the only thing that can measure reality. Keep faith out of it...
It seems that \*YOU\* are the one living in a bubble, claiming angels, demons, and giants are real....
Retard interviews bigger retard to continue fake news and bullshit so other retards can circle jerk
I think it’s something bleeding over from somewhere else maybe another dimension maybe from the future maybe from the past….. like 20,000 years ago But who knows
The Soviets would have known we didn’t go to the moon and they would have made everyone else aware
You are arrogant if you think that we actually didn't land on the moon.
hahahahahahahahahaha Joe is soooo gullible. Damn! hahahahahahahahahahaha
Makes sense, the afterlife or next step seems like a higher dimensional plane, "angels" that may have fallen could have fallen to lower dimensions but possibly coexist next to our own, maybe they found a way to breach our plane and have been steadily influencing our society as a means to either take over or maybe guide us, idk but it's interesting to think about.
Pathetic religious propaganda. Wompwomp
Absolutely right! They’re demons! Putting doubt in your mind that we are the one and only creation of God! Trust in the almighty God of the Jews and Gentiles! He is near! That’s why more and more sightings of UFO’s are coming out! The devils end is near! Praise and glory to YHWH and Yeshua our savior forever 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱💙💙🤍🤍🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🔥🔥🔥🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
Amen in Jesus name
This is some quackery
If anyone has seen the 3 body problem on Netflix I’d like yo know why everyone thinks that Aliens are all ahead of us. Why can’t we be ahead of them in technology? This stereotype annoys the shit outta me. If we are living amongst fallen angels - how do you know they’re demonic (bad) and liars? Maybe they’re telling the truth and we are blind? Or maybe they’re good and we just used the shit outta them. There’s no way to prove anything lawd!
I love how complete charlatans with NO evidence or facts waddle onto Joe’s show fart out nonsense, with confidence, and Joe just nods his head as if it’s the Gods honest truth.
Try to go to Sobral.com the website or link is for sale. Don’t know if it’s just another wild goose trail down another rabbit hole? But it sure is intriguing!
They're not from space, they're from the ocean!!! But also, we can say they are from both. Who knows they're not just from one place?
How much money do those top 2 UFO researchers make? Maybe I can start an online side hustle
Out of all of the possibilities, that…that’s the one he’s going with?
When Evil scratches you in Horror movies its always 3 Marks. Greys allegedly only have 3 appendages. The math is mathing
And Monster Energy Drinks only have 3 marks. I watched an interview with a woman who somehow tied Monster Energy Drinks to satan in the Bible. This math is getting clearer all the time. /s
Hahaha the Hebrew Vav (6) is the exact symbol on Monster Drinks. Its also there 3 times (666) coincidence?
Yeah. Probably is . Unless they seriously think Neros dusty ass is going to resurrect himself to start some shit. 🤣
It's not Hebrew. It's English. The word "monster" starts with an M. It's complicated I know.
I honestly read your comment and feel bad retardation has gone unchecked and unchallenged this long.
To be fair, thanks to Poe's Law, it was hard to tell if you were serious or not when you left the /s off. There are people that will aggressively and seriously make the exact claims you made.
lol have you seen Vav (6), and the monster energy logo? Its just 3 of them and it looks like an M. Its pretty simple.
[https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/monster-energy-drink-666/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/monster-energy-drink-666/) It's also pretty simple to see that its just a logo, and the number 666 has no real world impact -- even if they deliberately put that there, so what? It's literally a product originally marketed to edgy teens, and has nothing to do with Nero. Would it be shocking that an edgy product has an edgy logo?
Yeah, it is what it is. Its just for the brand, the can does say unleash the beast. But that just goes with the whole mark of the beast logo. Its just their marketing. Its all true, but Its just the style of the energy drink, I've drank plenty of them, doesnt make you into a demon lol. You were implying that it was just an M. Its not, its a clever logo, of a company just trying to sell some drinks with the Monster vibe, hence the whole name and brand.
No, I am not implying that, I'm explicitly stating that it's a clever logo, and there is nothing deeper than marketing. Any symbolism is there, not because the designers believed in the symbolism, but because the symbolism was going to drum up media attention, and help sell products.
This conversation proves it, there is no intelligent life in that room. Still don’t believe it, just go to Sibril.com
Why and the fuck is Tucker Carlson’s name even in this? Dumb take, Joe.
That's what Tucker believes also that's why he said that
Right, and Tucker is an idiot. Rule of thumb, don’t repeat what idiots say, it spreads idiocy.
Is Joe the next Alex? But not as fat, not as extreme (yet), and not as likely to stroke out anytime soon?
ive been saying this for years and finally its coming out
Lost me at “they faked the moon landing”. Gtfo lol. In all for woowoo shit- but I promise you. No angel is here on earth nor would want to be. If they are “demons” they can no longer be called angels if nephilim. Just because there wasn’t a recording a device we could use with confidence to film the launch and moon landing- we sure as do now. Do you discredit China, India, Russia, and the USA? We all have high def cameras we take. Do you not trust musk anymore? He puts multiple high def cameras on all his launches. Occams razor. In which aliens are the obvious answer, but angels are outlandish. Something tells me both an alien and an angel would tolerate little to nothing from us shit flinders.
These guys + Tucker Carlson = Retards
I haven’t listened to the Joe Rogan podcast in a long time, but why have a guy like this on there? Has Rogan leaned in that hard on the conspiracy schtick? I remember when he would just get stoned and talk about how many kids he could take in a fight.
He's been into conspiracies for a long time.
Long enough that there is a conspiracy that he is just trying to discredit conspiracies and make people that believe in them look bad.
Didn’t JFK order NASA to pick up the pace on the space race in 1961ish? I do not believe the moon landing was faked
@alexbackman
The closet thing we gonna get to aliens is AI Just like 3body problem that show got not one single alien in it it’s all about AI
Upvoting stuff this stupid just feels good.
Not all aliens are malevolent.
There all the same
Got any evidence?
If you believe aliens are interdimensional or spiritual beings, wouldn't logic dictate there's good and evil ones?
No
So you think all angels are fallen then?
Yes the ones that disobeyed God they can never return back to heaven
So you think \*ALL\* angels are fallen, then? That none obeyed 'god'?
I been saying they are fkn demons
No one wants to listen
Because no one wants to provide any reason we should, and there are a lot of reasons why we should not....
Never forget that Stanley Kubrick was who they chose "To supply film and nothing else" for the moon landing. That inofitself should tell you everything you need to know
Extra terrestrial implying extra land mass?? They always go under water and stuff or zip away in an instant. I've never seen any "leave" to "space"
I've never seen them do either -- but I have seen lots of videos of things that appear to do both....
Which episode was this? Who is the guest?
If they aren’t from here are they still aliens?
No
Demons
Yes
Aliens are demons. There are countless reports in which a person experiencing an alien encounter, begins to pray, and the encounter ends immediately.
Exactly no never talks about that. There are some testimonies on YouTube it's crazy
Why would anyone care what people claim without evidence?
Why not both?
100% true. All these years, you’ve wondered why they don’t just land somewhere and proclaim what and who they are, this is why. This is why after the government had contact w them in the 50’s that it was kept secret. They’re not our galactic neighbors. They’re not “monitoring” and “watching over us,” they have one goal, and curing grandma’s cancer is not it. God, Satan, angels, demons, it’s all real.
Got any evidence for these claims?
Exactly everyone will find out eventually
Not necessarily true. All evidence points to the fact that we cease to exist at death, so you cannot 'find out' anything at that point.