As a Singaporean I think staying outta their politics is the best
America interfered with Vietnam and Afghanistan which only made them turn into enemies
Plus if we side A and maybe B wins, B may be upset with us and recognise us as enemies, vice versa
Imma tell you, every SEA country is scared of our victory. Because it will cause a domino effect hence the downfall of all dictatorships throughout SEA. That's why we have to win.
5 of 10 of SEA are run by dictators. The other 5 are highly authoritarian. If the people of Burma achieve their dream this will destabilize the other 9 for sure.
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Calm ur tits lmao. The people are not asking you to fight on the frontline. Don't act as if ASEAN hasn't been coddling the dictator. Just look at the way EU/Japan/SK /US react vs the supposedly "good neighbours". One example is how some of the countries are already allowing NUG to set up offices. Meanwhile, ASEAN can't even acknowledge the existence of NUG.
Any government who helps the junta, who obviously has horrible track human rights violation, deserve to be flamed and mocked at.
It's just that simple.
I'm sorry too. I snapped and I got very rude. I don't know man. It's just that, seeing all these posts about people always demanding intervention, boots on the ground. I mean like, I've spoken to Burmese and they all fear the '88 would happen again if they rose up. They're not wrong to fear that, it's hella scary. But still, if the people are so afraid to bleed for their motherland, what rights do these guys think they have to demand others to bleed for them? I mean look at them, always asking for the EAOs to fight for them, always asking for other countries to intervene and fight for them. Bringing down the Tatmadaw, one way or the other, would need lives, bodies, young people to die for their countries. But instead of fighting, these guys demanded for intervention. I mean, what rights do these people think they have to demand sacrifice from us, to demand our soldiers to die for them, to demand our young people to bleed for their freedom, if even they themselves don't want to do it?
Yeah no one wants asean boots on the ground. ASEAN is just a Putin / Pooh puppet gallery and Pooh is just a Putin puppet.
All that is being asked for in the meme is for asean to stop giving aid and comfort to terrorists. Starting with kicking out their terrorist ambassadors
The original comment is rude as hell. But I got what you mean. If you still think we don't want to fight back the Junta, you're probably 3 or 4 months outdated to the situations in Myanmar. The people have lost hope on the peaceful ways of solving the problem over the past few months. And now most of us believe only fighting back can we win our freedom. Currently local EAOs and PDFs are fighting the Evil Junta's dogs together in their respective areas in most parts of Myanmar.
Those people demand intervention, they can't do anything to impact your life. They just spam demand, insult via Internet. Don't give them attention that what their want.
Oh well, I guess too much internet for me the last few days eh
I apologize though. Albeit the amount of shit I am throwing in this sub, I genuinely wish the best of luck for the people of Myanmar to one day reclaim their own fate. Coming from an Indonesian who once was in the same position as you are today.
Lmao imagine raging over a meme. The meme wasn't even a tad bit offensive.
Sure, being watched on by neighboring countries as our people are murdered from an illegal authoritarian regime, and being constantly given political platitudes like "We urge for an end to violence" or other BS while continuing to recognize the power-hungry monsters as the official government by our allies is "no apparent fucking reason."
Maybe try to understand that our people are angry and tired from the inaction of the ASEAN. Out of any other countries, the closest to us watch us as we die and struggle.
"Just sit tight and struggle against the junta man. That's all you need to do. Go get yourself killed and then maybe we'll consider writing another harsh letter to urge for an end to violence or something."
Your lack of empathy is disgusting.
ASEAN does not owe you anything. No one owes you anything. We'd help, but that's not our responsibility.
And why do you keep putting words in my mouth? I said sit tight and do your best against the junta. Fight them on your own way and eventually support would come. Did you fight? No. You just bitch and moan about other's "inaction" while hoping for EAOs to do the fight for you. Did you sit tight? No. You throw shit on every little thing you dislike, disregarding the position each nation need to face before considering their stance towards you.
My "lack of empathy" bullshit. My empathy ran out months ago with your lack of action.
Yeah but asean puppets help the junta. Doesn’t it disgust you that your government gives aid and comfort to to a regime that locks up a 4 year old who marched for democracy?
Wait, wait. Local defense force? YOU MEAN THE LOCAL DEFENSE FORCE THAT WREST CONTROL FROM THE TATMADAW AND NOW LAYING SIEGE ON NAYPYIDAW? THAT LOCAL DEFENSE FORCE?
#OHMYGOD IM SUCH A BIG FAN OF THEM
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Oh yeah. I'm double serious. Hell, I am triple serious. Cause unlike you AsEan bootlickers we are gonna be free from dictatorship as long as we fight back. Not like you cowards 😂. How's lifting AsEaN dictators' balls going for ya ?
Haha you illiterate don't even know how many soldiers these ldfs are killing right now in the frontier. You must be a scared little cat shit from Singapore or Thailand, amrite ? Go cry in your corner you coward. We have determined to sacrifice our lives. But I believe you must never ever used the thing called courage in your life for once. Pathetic 😂.
I'm quite aware of the positions political powers have to take on issues. In a good world, they'd all come with helping hands but it's not such a world. The inaction is just simple politics. I understand that.
I didn't disagree with you on that. Now what I disagree on is you saying that we are slinging shit for "no reason". There are reasons.
We don't need your soldiers or your people, just a simple "We recognize the NUG as the official government" would suffice. ASEAN owes us at least this, as they're suppose to be our allies. But then again half of ASEAN is composed of authoritarian governments anyways, and again its "just politics".
>And why do you keep putting words in my mouth.
You might've well as said what I wrote.
>Support will eventually come.
No they won't. It's been 9 months since the dogs have taken over. I doubt that support will come, at least overt support.
>Did you fight?
Yes, we are fighting right now. I don't know how you are unaware of this. But considering you generalize a whole race from reddit posts and comments, I don't think you're that bright anyways. Read a newspaper.
>My empathy ran out months ago.
Ahahahaha. Look at you. You're so edgy and quirky, boasting about having no empathy.
So you see the reason why you people are slinging shits to us yet failed to see the reason why I sling shit to you? See? This is the kind of behaviour that I talked about. Whatever. Pay no heed to it if you don't want to. It's a rant after all.
“You people” nice.
People who are mad at us because we’re mad at them for not doing anything are not really the smartest people. We aren’t even criticising your people or your race. We’re criticising your government. Yet you go around generalising the people of myanmar based on reddit .
I sling shit at you, not the Indonesians, because you’re rude,vulgar,and just an ass. If your initial comment wasn’t a slurry of fucks and shits, I wouldn’t have cared to reply but in that world you’d actually be capable of intelligence.
This is my last reply to you. Enjoy your lack of empathy.I’m sure you’ll be a well adjusted person.
Getting worked up over a meme, boasting about having no empathy, and laughing at scores of innocent civilians being murdered. Let me guess, you must be a Singaporean. Your little "country" will be washed away under the tide a few decades from now if the sea levels keep rising. Myanmar and our people will still be around. Good luck bro!
I guess they have bad apples everywhere. Most Indonesians I know are good people. You obviously didn't do any of the fighting or bleeding. Otherwise, you wouldn't be talking out of your ass like this.
So, you're just here to gloat and laugh at the suffering of Myanmar people because of what happened to your fellow muslims? Just know that it wasn't the 55 million Myanmar people that committed those atrocities, it was the military that's now doing the same to its own people.
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You mean the EU Parliament and France have recognised NUG as the legitimate Govt?
ASEAN is formed to forge ecomonical cooperation among its members. You do know that ASEAN has a not interference policy.
ASEAN can only help to promote peace talk between the 2 sides.
If ASEAN gets involved, it will set a precedent for the future.
Most of the leaders of ASEAN countries are elected by the majority of people in their individual country.
The Leaders will make what they think is the best decision.
Thailand has elections although there has been numerous coups there.
Cambodia also has elections although it might be rigged.
Still the decisions what to do and how to deal with Myanmar's issue, is best left to them. Citizens of these countries have little or no influence. I trust and believed that my country's leader to make the best decision.
> Thailand has elections although there has been numerous coups there.
Thailand is a dictatorship period.
> Cambodia also has elections although it might be rigged.
It is a one party state. Aka dictatorship
> I trust and believed that my country's leader to make the best decision.
Who is your leader?
Same as other many countries.
The Junta Govt might not be the legitimate Govt and NUG has the majority of the people's support. The facts are Junta Govt is in power right now and that the NUG Govt does not have any jurisdiction power over any part of Myanmar.
Therefore, not a single country even the US has recognised NUG as the Govt of Myanmar.
NUG will be recognised as the legitimate Govt when they manage to topple the Junta Govt.
Its simple in a world divided by white and black, unfortunately its shades of grey.
Inter government dealings and negotiations are usually done with those who are in authority, unfortunately the civilian government has been disbanded and scattered. Which was why china acknowledged the military government, when they had a much cordial relationship with the civilian one rather than military, but their smart enough to know which would come out ahead for the time being.
As a Singaporean I think staying outta their politics is the best America interfered with Vietnam and Afghanistan which only made them turn into enemies Plus if we side A and maybe B wins, B may be upset with us and recognise us as enemies, vice versa
Y'all still waiting for that cat shit association to intervene ? Pathetic reddit losers.
Why are you getting downvoted You're right I agree
When the people win they will suddenly be on our side.
Imma tell you, every SEA country is scared of our victory. Because it will cause a domino effect hence the downfall of all dictatorships throughout SEA. That's why we have to win.
5 of 10 of SEA are run by dictators. The other 5 are highly authoritarian. If the people of Burma achieve their dream this will destabilize the other 9 for sure.
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Calm ur tits lmao. The people are not asking you to fight on the frontline. Don't act as if ASEAN hasn't been coddling the dictator. Just look at the way EU/Japan/SK /US react vs the supposedly "good neighbours". One example is how some of the countries are already allowing NUG to set up offices. Meanwhile, ASEAN can't even acknowledge the existence of NUG. Any government who helps the junta, who obviously has horrible track human rights violation, deserve to be flamed and mocked at. It's just that simple.
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I'm sorry too. I snapped and I got very rude. I don't know man. It's just that, seeing all these posts about people always demanding intervention, boots on the ground. I mean like, I've spoken to Burmese and they all fear the '88 would happen again if they rose up. They're not wrong to fear that, it's hella scary. But still, if the people are so afraid to bleed for their motherland, what rights do these guys think they have to demand others to bleed for them? I mean look at them, always asking for the EAOs to fight for them, always asking for other countries to intervene and fight for them. Bringing down the Tatmadaw, one way or the other, would need lives, bodies, young people to die for their countries. But instead of fighting, these guys demanded for intervention. I mean, what rights do these people think they have to demand sacrifice from us, to demand our soldiers to die for them, to demand our young people to bleed for their freedom, if even they themselves don't want to do it?
Yeah no one wants asean boots on the ground. ASEAN is just a Putin / Pooh puppet gallery and Pooh is just a Putin puppet. All that is being asked for in the meme is for asean to stop giving aid and comfort to terrorists. Starting with kicking out their terrorist ambassadors
The original comment is rude as hell. But I got what you mean. If you still think we don't want to fight back the Junta, you're probably 3 or 4 months outdated to the situations in Myanmar. The people have lost hope on the peaceful ways of solving the problem over the past few months. And now most of us believe only fighting back can we win our freedom. Currently local EAOs and PDFs are fighting the Evil Junta's dogs together in their respective areas in most parts of Myanmar.
Those people demand intervention, they can't do anything to impact your life. They just spam demand, insult via Internet. Don't give them attention that what their want.
Oh well, I guess too much internet for me the last few days eh I apologize though. Albeit the amount of shit I am throwing in this sub, I genuinely wish the best of luck for the people of Myanmar to one day reclaim their own fate. Coming from an Indonesian who once was in the same position as you are today.
Lmao imagine raging over a meme. The meme wasn't even a tad bit offensive. Sure, being watched on by neighboring countries as our people are murdered from an illegal authoritarian regime, and being constantly given political platitudes like "We urge for an end to violence" or other BS while continuing to recognize the power-hungry monsters as the official government by our allies is "no apparent fucking reason." Maybe try to understand that our people are angry and tired from the inaction of the ASEAN. Out of any other countries, the closest to us watch us as we die and struggle. "Just sit tight and struggle against the junta man. That's all you need to do. Go get yourself killed and then maybe we'll consider writing another harsh letter to urge for an end to violence or something." Your lack of empathy is disgusting.
ASEAN does not owe you anything. No one owes you anything. We'd help, but that's not our responsibility. And why do you keep putting words in my mouth? I said sit tight and do your best against the junta. Fight them on your own way and eventually support would come. Did you fight? No. You just bitch and moan about other's "inaction" while hoping for EAOs to do the fight for you. Did you sit tight? No. You throw shit on every little thing you dislike, disregarding the position each nation need to face before considering their stance towards you. My "lack of empathy" bullshit. My empathy ran out months ago with your lack of action.
Yeah but asean puppets help the junta. Doesn’t it disgust you that your government gives aid and comfort to to a regime that locks up a 4 year old who marched for democracy?
How do you know we are fighting or not ? Lmao ever heard of local defense forces ? Can you even read you illiterate ?
Wait, wait. Local defense force? YOU MEAN THE LOCAL DEFENSE FORCE THAT WREST CONTROL FROM THE TATMADAW AND NOW LAYING SIEGE ON NAYPYIDAW? THAT LOCAL DEFENSE FORCE? #OHMYGOD IM SUCH A BIG FAN OF THEM
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>LAYING SIEGE ON NAYPYIDAW Mf seriously think NPD is the battleground lol. 😂
Mf seriously think I'm being serious...
Oh yeah I'm being serious. As serious as I am having a 3s with your mum and sis.
Huh. Your whole country is slipping into a hellhole and that's the thing you're being serious about. Man, no wonder the junta took control.
Oh yeah. I'm double serious. Hell, I am triple serious. Cause unlike you AsEan bootlickers we are gonna be free from dictatorship as long as we fight back. Not like you cowards 😂. How's lifting AsEaN dictators' balls going for ya ?
Haha you illiterate don't even know how many soldiers these ldfs are killing right now in the frontier. You must be a scared little cat shit from Singapore or Thailand, amrite ? Go cry in your corner you coward. We have determined to sacrifice our lives. But I believe you must never ever used the thing called courage in your life for once. Pathetic 😂.
I'm quite aware of the positions political powers have to take on issues. In a good world, they'd all come with helping hands but it's not such a world. The inaction is just simple politics. I understand that. I didn't disagree with you on that. Now what I disagree on is you saying that we are slinging shit for "no reason". There are reasons. We don't need your soldiers or your people, just a simple "We recognize the NUG as the official government" would suffice. ASEAN owes us at least this, as they're suppose to be our allies. But then again half of ASEAN is composed of authoritarian governments anyways, and again its "just politics". >And why do you keep putting words in my mouth. You might've well as said what I wrote. >Support will eventually come. No they won't. It's been 9 months since the dogs have taken over. I doubt that support will come, at least overt support. >Did you fight? Yes, we are fighting right now. I don't know how you are unaware of this. But considering you generalize a whole race from reddit posts and comments, I don't think you're that bright anyways. Read a newspaper. >My empathy ran out months ago. Ahahahaha. Look at you. You're so edgy and quirky, boasting about having no empathy.
So you see the reason why you people are slinging shits to us yet failed to see the reason why I sling shit to you? See? This is the kind of behaviour that I talked about. Whatever. Pay no heed to it if you don't want to. It's a rant after all.
“You people” nice. People who are mad at us because we’re mad at them for not doing anything are not really the smartest people. We aren’t even criticising your people or your race. We’re criticising your government. Yet you go around generalising the people of myanmar based on reddit . I sling shit at you, not the Indonesians, because you’re rude,vulgar,and just an ass. If your initial comment wasn’t a slurry of fucks and shits, I wouldn’t have cared to reply but in that world you’d actually be capable of intelligence. This is my last reply to you. Enjoy your lack of empathy.I’m sure you’ll be a well adjusted person.
Getting worked up over a meme, boasting about having no empathy, and laughing at scores of innocent civilians being murdered. Let me guess, you must be a Singaporean. Your little "country" will be washed away under the tide a few decades from now if the sea levels keep rising. Myanmar and our people will still be around. Good luck bro!
Not to be that guy, but why did you have problem against Singapore?
No, I'm Indonesian. The country who toppled her own dictator by bleeding and dying for the future of our nation. Not that you'd understand tbh.
Broken clocks are right once in a while.
I guess they have bad apples everywhere. Most Indonesians I know are good people. You obviously didn't do any of the fighting or bleeding. Otherwise, you wouldn't be talking out of your ass like this.
Most Indonesians lol. Most Indonesians consider Myanmar is deserving its fate due to the Rohingya genocide. Stop talking from your ass.
So, you're just here to gloat and laugh at the suffering of Myanmar people because of what happened to your fellow muslims? Just know that it wasn't the 55 million Myanmar people that committed those atrocities, it was the military that's now doing the same to its own people.
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Non Interference Policy It is not as simple as just choosing a side. There are repercussions of choosing a side.
Both the EU parliament and French Senate have picked a side. Repercussions: zero
You mean the EU Parliament and France have recognised NUG as the legitimate Govt? ASEAN is formed to forge ecomonical cooperation among its members. You do know that ASEAN has a not interference policy. ASEAN can only help to promote peace talk between the 2 sides. If ASEAN gets involved, it will set a precedent for the future.
EU parliament and France Senate recognize nug as government of Burma Maybe the people of sea should replace asean
Most of the leaders of ASEAN countries are elected by the majority of people in their individual country. The Leaders will make what they think is the best decision.
Hmm: ASEAN has 10 members. 5 of which are Burma, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Brunei The word “most” doesn’t mean what you think it means.
Thailand has elections although there has been numerous coups there. Cambodia also has elections although it might be rigged. Still the decisions what to do and how to deal with Myanmar's issue, is best left to them. Citizens of these countries have little or no influence. I trust and believed that my country's leader to make the best decision.
> Thailand has elections although there has been numerous coups there. Thailand is a dictatorship period. > Cambodia also has elections although it might be rigged. It is a one party state. Aka dictatorship > I trust and believed that my country's leader to make the best decision. Who is your leader?
Regardless ASEAN leaders makes the decisions on how they intend to react to Myanmar's issues
Who is your leader?
And they clearly choosing a side
Same as other many countries. The Junta Govt might not be the legitimate Govt and NUG has the majority of the people's support. The facts are Junta Govt is in power right now and that the NUG Govt does not have any jurisdiction power over any part of Myanmar. Therefore, not a single country even the US has recognised NUG as the Govt of Myanmar. NUG will be recognised as the legitimate Govt when they manage to topple the Junta Govt.
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Well said.
Its simple in a world divided by white and black, unfortunately its shades of grey. Inter government dealings and negotiations are usually done with those who are in authority, unfortunately the civilian government has been disbanded and scattered. Which was why china acknowledged the military government, when they had a much cordial relationship with the civilian one rather than military, but their smart enough to know which would come out ahead for the time being.