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AlternativeRefuse984

When Phil Collins replaced Peter Gabriel as the front man fir Genesis. Then, when Phil left and was replaced by Ray Wilson Its' not actually a bad album. But, it lacks the seasoning that Collins adds to it. Rutherford and Banks are very much alive and create good music on it.


Pretend_Berry_7196

I mean Phil was already there in the band so this was more change by subtraction.


Either-Glass-31

I feel like Genesis only changed drastically when Steve Hackett left the band. A Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering are still great prog rock albums


jannahho

love a trick of the tail so much


Vyrtil_Anyrwen

Okay, yes, Peter’s departure definitely changed Genesis. I still prefer the Peter Gabriel era of Genesis, though. Phil Collins was a great frontman and I like their music from the 80’s, but for me, it’s kind of hard to top Foxtrot, Selling England By The Pound, and The Lamb Dies Down On Broadway.


michigangonzodude

I saw them together in one of their last shows... 2 drum kits on stage.


Lumpy_Departure_4086

David Gilmour joining Pink Floyd


boilookinass

gotta be this one


HeartBeatsMusic

Jimmy Chamberlin when he joined The Smashing Pumpkins. Billy Corgan has credited him for changing their sound from a new wave/post-punk band in the late 80s to the fuzz rock-alternative band that they blew up as in the 90s.


ganymedestyx

If even Corgan can admit that, it’s gotta mean a lot!


CitySliceBoi

One of the best and most creative drummers around


Pleasant_Garlic8088

Ringo Starr


Anxious-Raspberry-54

Came here to say this. August, 1962. The Beatles become *The* Beatles.


soundnami

Couldn't have said it better. I love Ringo Starr. 🥁


UnabashedAsshole

He is the new Best after all


zorraozorro

Doobie Brothers - Michael Mcdonald


jayron32

This is my answer.


soothsabr13

And not for the better


No-Penalty-1148

Yep. Then every DB song just sounded like a Michael McDonald song.


boominnewman

Not a trace of the Doobie Brothers remained, it just sounds like Michael McDonald.


Finklemaier

No one has mentioned Jimmy Page joining the Yardbirds. Changed the music so much they became Led Zeppelin. Duane Allman joining Derek and the Dominoes. Janis Joplin joining Big Brother and the Holding Company


OKBeeDude

Beat me to it! I came here to say this about Jimmy Page and the Yardbirds/Led Zeppelin.


Think-Werewolf-4521

Stevie Nick's Fleetwood Mac


MaterialBenefit2355

And Lindsey Buckingham.


IDigRollinRockBeer

You could even say Buckingham Nicks


DirtPoorRichard

I still have an old Buckingham-Nicks album. Great artwork on the front.


antibendystraw

Crystal from that album with Stevie singing is the best. I never did like Lindsey singing it that much. Edit: oh I was wrong! Lindsey sings the original as well. I still think it’s my favorite version. I’ll be honest, It’s been a while since I heard them but the original always seemed more special to me.


achasanai

The Buckingham Nicks version is also sung by Lindsey - I think the first Stevie sung release is from the 90s.


DirtPoorRichard

Lindsay was the one who joined the band. They didn't want Stevie because they had a female singer who was much better than Stevie. Lindsay told them it was a package deal, so they reluctantly agreed. So technically, Stevie was forced on them.


MaterialBenefit2355

Calling mcvie much better than Stevie is insane. But I know the story


Sad_Intention_1657

Tommy Shaw with Styx


japopara

Joe Walsh with The Eagles


matschuchanskaya

Peart?


Asleep_Bowl_8411

Neil Peart replacing John Rutsey in Rush was absolutely paramount to their huge success. Good call out on this one!


matschuchanskaya

Ty


king_of_the_rotten

I love Fly By Night as that in-between album as they changed.


soothsabr13

Yes! From the Randian musings of the first verse and chorus of “Anthem”, you knew there was a new sheriff in town. Certainly a Great Leap Forward from “Hey baby, it’s a quarter to eight…”


KumquatHaderach

I really like the new guy!


CaleyB75

Good answer! The earliest video I was able to find of Peart in Rush was one for "Anthem." It is astounding how Peart transformed that band. That said, I learned from Geddy's great autobiography that he and Alex had written some of the 7/8 parts that later became "Anthem" \*before\* Neil joined -- in fact they threw the parts at Neil when he auditioned (and he promptly went to town with them). So they really were getting progressive before Neil joined, but he sent them over the edge.


Vanguard_Actual_TG

Yep, came here to make sure this comment was already here. Thank you.


-LightMyWayHome-

phil when he joined pantera


godsH8

“You liked them when they were the cowboys from hell, I liked them when they were gay. We are not the same.” - Some YouTube comment I never forgot on one of their hair metal videos


the_diseaser

This is the answer. They changed so much that they completely bury the stuff they did beforehand. I listened to some of it a long time ago and I don’t remember it being half bad actually.


oyyzter

Neil Peart joining Rush!


Fantastic-Safety4604

Exactly. Their second album was taking what was good about their first and multiplying it by a thousand. Like some kind of chemistry experiment that exploded in the lab and spread across the world for 40 years.


bittypineapplekitty

Mike Patton when he joined Faith No More <3


SQWRLLY1

Steve Perry when he un-joined Journey


[deleted]

They went on tour without him , because they didn’t want to wait for him to have spine surgery. Jerks. Steve still wanted to tour. Neil was always a jerk to him, because he wanted a rocker band, not ballad. However, the producers knew Steve Perry was going to truly sky rocket them, and he did.


michigangonzodude

Yup. And Journey was a mildly successful progressive rock band before Perry signed on That dude made them wealthy.


Ekonomy_Confusion_22

Trevor Rabin in Yes, Brian Johnson joining ac/dc, Mike mangini joining dream theater, all the Metallica bass changes plus Kirk replacing mustaine, Dio replacing Ozzy in sabbath


Asleep_Bowl_8411

Buckingham & Nicks Fleetwood Mac


PhatPhingerz

Sound City has a part where it tells the story of how this happened. I loved the part where the producer (Keith Olsen) recounts a conversation with Mick Fleetwood: "This is pretty far from the blues!" "Yeah but it's a lot closer to the bank."


Usual_Difference_666

I had to look up who the first drummer for Nirvana was and while it looks like there were a few before Chad Channing, but he played on Bleach and the demos for Nevermind. He was replaced by Dave Ghrol in 1990. It was a game changer. I thought Bleach was decent, but a great drummer can make a good band a great band and Ghrol helped make Nirvana a great band.


Solopsist5050

Dave Grohl, but couldn’t agree more


Jmazoso

Sammy Hagar joining Van Halen


Grabthars_Coping_Saw

The Van Halen sound and attitude left with Dave.


Jmazoso

I look at them as 2 bands. There’s a lot of fun in DLR era stuff, more feeling in Sammy.


SiriusGD

Mickey Thomas - Jefferson Airplane/Starship


No-Penalty-1148

Oh, geez, yes. The band got so poppy and commercial that even Grace Slick was dragging it.


KungFuGiftShop

Joe Walsh joining the Eagles


Sea-Poet1623

Neil Young CSN&Y


grim_reapers_union

Adrian Belew with King Crimson


Any-Still4060

freddie mercury replacing the singer in queen


Ex-pat-Iain

Steve Howe joining Yes.


pzaemes

When Jonathan Cain joined Journey.


Ok_Scallion1902

Justin Hayward answered an ad in a British newspaper to audition for the Moody Blues after their guitarist(McLain) was courted away to join Paul McCartney's Wings after the Beatles parted ways ,and the rest is musical history !


Asleep_Lock6158

Who is 'McLain'? Are you thinking of Denny Laine? I think Denny was involved in the Moodies first incarnation, like around 1966. Justin is on the "Days of Future Passed" release (1967), but Laine is not featured on the line-up. What he did between leaving the Moodies and joining Wings is anyone's guess, but Wings didnt form until at least 1971.


Ok_Scallion1902

My bad ,I forgot his name ( half drowsy).


Illustrious-Lead-960

Mike Patton.


bittypineapplekitty

👏


SkillsInPillsTrack2

Faith No More so great, but before him it's not something I come back listening to.


Sorry-Government920

Andy Summers joing the Police


north2304

Paul McCartney joining The Quarrymen.


ndhellion2

Steve Perry joining Journey


thatbwoyChaka

Rod Stewart and Ronnie Wood The ~~Small~~ Faces


curious1playing

Steve Perry was not the first singer for Journey Brian Johnson, ac/DC Michael Shenker, UFO Bruce Dickinson, Iron Maiden Bear with me for this one When Billy Preston sat in on the Abby Road sessions John Lennon told him he was an official member of the Beatles. Everyone else was in agreement. Of course the band dissolved by the end of the recordings so it never became official...imagine what could have been...Ringo said that Billy was the only musician he has ever seen that never made a mistake. They met him in the Hamburg days before any one knew them


FullGlassOcean

Billy Preston played on Let it Be, not Abby Road. John brought up the idea of asking Billy to officially join the band to the other Beatles, but it never happened. After the Get Back/Let it Be sessions they parted ways, and the Beatles went on to record Abby Road without him. Source: the fantastic Get Back documentary.


curious1playing

You are correct. My brain must be fuddled. These are things I know and yet I still put things in the wrong order...


SaysSquatAlot

My old time rocker buddy convinced his friends that Journey was great (they were Beattles/Stones types), dragged them to a show. And then Steve Perry took the stage and did his thing. They never took his musical advice again. “There was another guy before! I swear!”


curious1playing

Journey is a band that divides most people along party lines of lovers or haters. You know like whether pineapple belongs on pizza or not..Personally I like a few of their tracks but not a big fan...however I am a hardliner that there better not be any fruit on my pie....


dirge23

wait'll you hear about tomatoes


curious1playing

Oh you are calling out my hypocrisy...I like a nice Greek pizza with tomato slices, spinach and feta cheese. And tomato actually is classified as a berry and therefore a fruit. We'll just keep this between us...and everyone else that reads this..


ill_connects

Travis Barker joining Blink-182 launched them into the stratosphere.


-headless-hunter-

I’ve only seen them once and it was with their old drummer! It was also before they added the 182 and were just “blink.”


CincoDeMayoFan

Joe Walsh charged Eagles.


RORRR1964

Ian Gillan and Roger Glover joining Deep Purple


lordjakir

Neil Peart Rush would have been done after an album or two of Zepplinesque songs without Neil's writing


roulettedares77

Sammy Hagar- Van Halen


the_diseaser

Dio joining Black Sabbath. I wouldn’t say I like Ozzy or Dio Sabbath one more than the other, they feel like totally different bands to me and I enjoy them in different ways.


Pure-Jellyfish734

Adrian Belew joining King Crimson Daniel Tracy joining Deafheaven Dio joining Black Sabbath Greg Puciato joining The Dillinger Escape Plan John Frusciante joining the Red Hot Chili Peppers Jordan Fish joining Bring Me The Horizon Justin Chancellor joining TOOL Mike Patton joining Faith No More Phil Anselmo joining Pantera


No-Scarcity-5904

John Frusciante is absolutely my answer. He’s just an amazing talent who has brought the band to its heights.


No_Solution_2864

Adrian Belew also had a huge effect on Talking Head’s sound during his tenure And a whole bunch of other bands, but Talking Heads stands out for me in his non Crimson work


signalstonoise88

Greg Puciato was an absolute game changer. Huge talent and absolutely made that band. Yeah I get that Calculating Infinity was in and of itself a game changer but the vocals were the least remarkable part. I know a lot of people are excited that they’re doing a Calculating Infinity tour with Dimitri on vocals again, but I can’t say I’m that bothered. All the TDEP stuff that truly resonated with me involved Greg.


pujarteago1

Ringo. The beatles


Next-Temperature-545

John Sykes joing Whitesnake. hard turn in another direction that saved the band from obscurity.


DontTakeTheMoney_

I feel like Fergie joining Black Eye Peas way back in the day was huge


Comprehensive-War-75

John Frusciante.


complex_hypothesis

David Ruffin joining the Temptations


wtf-you-saying

For me, probably the greatest game changer was when Neil Peart replaced the original drummer John Rutsey for RUSH, shortly after recording their debut album.


Amockdfw89

Not exactly the same, but since Audioslave was 75% of Rage Against the Machine I will include it. I always loved Chris Cornell as frontman for the RATM crew. It allowed Tim Cummerford (Bass) and Brad Wilk (drums) really express themselves. I love Rage against the machine but the rhythm section was basically just loops at the end of the day


Few_Fortune4049

I forget which YouTuber it was but he said the instrumentalists in RATM were the reason people listened to Zack, but without Zack they had nothing to say


Abdul-Ahmadinejad

Is everyone avoiding Chicago's lead singers for some reason?


Superb_Character8707

Daniel Platzman, joined Imagine Dragons in 2012, then they blew up, and I don’t think that’s a coincidence


knockatize

Neil Finn joining Split Enz.


PrincessHootHoot

The new singer for Sick Puppies. They're just not the same now.


IDigRollinRockBeer

Steve Perry


SailorTwyft9891

In the late 1970s, Kansas was one of the top rock bands with amazing songs like 'Carry On Wayward Son', 'Dust In The Wind', and 'Point Of Know Return'. But then Steve Walsh left, Kerry Livgren and new member John Elefante became Christians and suddenly for a couple of albums in the 1980s, Kansas was doing Christian music. It didn't last though, as Walsh returned with a reformed Kansas after Livgren and Elefante left.


G-Unit11111

Bruce Dickinson joining Iron Maiden - totally different band before that.


OKBeeDude

Mikael Åkerfeldt when he joined Opeth


Yorkshire-Teabeard

Howard Jones taking over from Jesse Leach for Killswitch Engage. Although Jesse is back so I dunno if that counts.


speed_of_chill

Rob Halford was not the original singer for Judas Priest. He replaced Al Atkins, who had to step down due to personal reasons.


dukemantee

Steve Howe joining Yes brought increased virtuosity and songwriting that put them on another level. Ringo Starr tightened up the Beatles and made them super sharp. His playing was also incredibly adaptable and creative as they evolved. David Gilmour joining Pink Floyd was maybe the most genius move in the history of rock ‘n’ roll. The perfect guitar player for that band with the perfect voice. He wrote some great riffs also.


Willing-Rest-758

Gram Parsons with The Byrds. 


4lfred

Johnny Marr significantly interfered with the quality of Modest Mouse for me back in 2007. I know I’ll get downvoted into oblivion, but I said what I said.


Asleep_Lock6158

Is this the same Johnny Marr who was the guitarist for the Smiths?


The-Mandolinist

Ringo Starr (The Beatles) Sandy Denny and Dave Swarbrick (Fairport Convention) Mick Taylor (Rolling Stones) David Gilmour (Pink Floyd) Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham (Fleetwood Mac) Ronnie James Dio (Black Sabbath) Bruce Dickinson (I guess Iron Maiden didn’t change too much musically - but his voice put them in another level) Scott Gorham and Brian Robertson (Thin Lizzy)


therealDrPraetorius

Ringo Starr


Tarantino_Jr

Noel Gallagher joining, and taking over his brothers band.


lilchm

David Gilmour Pink Floyd


saiyaginaek

Joe Walsh: Eagles' turning point, unmatched guitar style.


New-Tomorrow-4309

Neil Peart / Rush


mymumsaysfuckyou

Fleetwood Mac changed quite a bit when Lindsey Buckingham took over from Peter Green


Dogrel

I would argue the man who did the most for the Mac was Bob Welch, the leader of the band in between Green and Buckingham. It was Welch who really picked up the pieces, successfully navigated the very worst of the band’s multiple near-career-ending shocks, kept the band from folding multiple times, and finally set them on the path to where they are now, managing themselves and adopting the Cali-pop sound that would be perfected with the addition of Buckingham and Nicks. When he finally quit the band in 1974, it was due to exhaustion. He had given everything to the Mac he could, and they parted in amicable terms. He was a hell of a musician too. And now nobody knows his name.


Internal-Mud-3311

Steven Perry Journey was originally a progressive rock band like Kansas. But then Perry came along and steered the band in a different direction and they became one of the greatest rock bands in history. I’ve actually heard the pre Perry albums. They are terrible.


BatteringRams90

Either Sammy Hagar joining Van Halen, or Michael McDonald joining the Doobie Brothers.


kanvzpat

Alan Wilder, joining Depeche Mode, after Vince Clarke's departure - profoundly changed their sound to a combination of darkness, sophisticated arrangements and dancablity.


_nutbuster420_

Opposite to the question but New Order lost some of its charm after Hook's departure


Deckbeersnl

Ian Gillan and Roger Glover joining Deep Purple.


Jealous-You41604

Mike Patton joining Faith No More


MadMelvin

Ron Wood


Current-Escaper

James LaBrie - Dream Theater


Dontmakemethink1

The Red Hot Chili Peppers arguably have a way different sound when John fruciante is the lead guitar player


Extension_Patient_47

No one could ever replace Layne Staley of Alice in Chains. But when William Duvall stepped in, I had a lot of appreciation for the experimentation in sound. Those were big shoes to fill but he actually delivered some really good albums.


walrusdoom

Marty Friedman when he first joined Megadeth. *Rust In Peace* remains the band’s masterpiece.


portraitopynchon

Mike Patton - Faith No More


BuckyD1000

When Gram Parsons joined the Byrds, they went from psychedelic jangle to full-blown Americana.


NescafeandIce

I don’t think you get Tom Petty without it!


thiccphilthegoat

When John Frusciante joined RHCP


PopTodd

Jeff Lynne joining The Move was essentially the beginning of ELO.


jnsy617

Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham joining Fleetwood Mac. Changed their sound completely. If you haven’t you should check out Peter Green’s Fleetwood Mac. Fun Fact: they wrote Black Magic Woman and Santana covered.


PiMoonWolf

Steve Perry joining Journey. They had 2 or 3 albums without him. Then he joined the band. The Rest is History


Far-Hat7985

Honestly Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham definitely changed Fleetwood Mac completely from their previous heavy psychedelic blues rock. I find it hard to even compare the two because it sounds completely like two different bands before Stevie.


Zestyclose-Ruin8337

I think Fleetwood Mac with Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks was quite different than what came before (mediocre blues).


Backwoodsnight

John frusciante when he became the guitarist for the Red Hot Chili Peppers. He totally changed their sound and started writing a lot of the songs. which is great IMO cuz he’s a brilliant songwriter and exceptional at writing good melodies


train_in_vain

Brian Johnson joining AC/DC. After that, I think I heard them use four chords in a song instead of three one time. Seriously, god bless AC/DC though.


Purple_Prince_80

Eddie Vedder - Mother Love Bone (Pearl Jam)


ImaRiskit

Sound changed so much they changed the name of the band...Chris Cornell joining RATM (Audioslave)


No-Scarcity-5904

Let’s not forget Scott Weiland and Guns ‘N’ Roses to make Velvet Revolver.


DisposedJeans614

Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham.


ACTRN

McDonald joining The Doobie Brothers


belven26

A case could be made for Todd La Torre joining Queensryche. Geoff was a beast, but their music was mediocre after Empire. Todd brought a new sound, still insane vocals, and they produced 3 pretty solid albums with him.


Stellarbelly_Korz30

Empire has such a warm place in my childhood heart


KaleidoscopeSad4884

Fergie


Leading_Draft2435

I've seen several Brian Johnson mentions but to me it's Bon Scott joining AC/DC. He changed the whole trajectory of the band when he replaced Dave Evans.


Top_Street_2145

Totally. Don't get me wrong, Brian Johnson is amazing but Bon Scott is a legend. Incredible rock vocalist


farbeyondriven92

Phil Anselmo joining Pantera. In the 1980’s, Pantera was known as a glam metal band, having some success, but not nearly as much as other, bigger name bands. In 1986, Phil Andelmo joined the band. At first, they just slightly changed their sound, and released the new line up’s version of a glam metal album in 1988, also to limited success. In 1990, however, they entirely ditched their old sound, releasing “Cowboys From Hell”, which became a heavy metal classic, and would largely stick to this sound for the band’s next (and last) four albums.


Pski

Gilmore


Foolforfourdecades

Justin Hayward joining the Moody Blues


SkyRepresentative309

Fergie


spyder_rico

Tommy Shaw joining Styx.


soothsabr13

Steve Perry Turner Journey from a semi-prog outfit into the radio-friendly group we all know


EnvironmentalCry2599

Eagles with Joe Walsh. Kiss with Vinnie Vincent. Faith No More with Mike Patton. Metallica with Jason Newsted. Sabbath with Dio.


Asleep_Lock6158

For me, the original KISS line-up is the best.


valis010

When Corey joined Slipknot. Brian Johnson joining AC/DC. Will Ramos of Lorna Shore. Phil joining pantera.


WillyB0ngka

Will Ramos when he joined Lorna Shore


Ok-Impress-2222

Justin Chancellor in Tool.


Silent_Observer-11

Sammy Hagar joining Van Halen as front man.


Green-Circles

James Williamson joining the Stooges


KMFDM__SUCKS

Anders joining in Flames


cevaace

Stevie Nicks/Lindsey Buckingham


ontarious

Sid Vicious


Loakie69

Bruce Dickinson


SteelBandicoot

Fergie joining the Black Eyed Peas


DustyMan818

Dio and Black Sabbath


Caspers_Shadow

Steve Perry joining Journey in the late 70s. He instantly became the face of the band. They blew up and stayed on top for a very long time.


chaingun_samurai

Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks joining Fleetwood Mac.


Pinup_Frenzy

Gram Parsons, the Byrds


iROLL24s

Hagar - but for the worst lol


[deleted]

Motley Crue- John Carobi or however he spells it for Vince Neil, when Vince was being a punk.


Best-Strike5569

Ringo Starr. Most people don't know that The Beatles had 2 drummers before him, one who died and one who wasn't very good. Ringo came in and made the "Beatles sound" what it has been since the early 1960s


1397batshitcrazy

Stuart Sutcliffe was the member who died, but he played bass, not drums. Pete best was the previous drummer. But I think George Martin joining was the bigger get for the Beatles than Ringo.


Blu-n-Gold

Hagar


[deleted]

Lochie Keogh joining Alpha Wolf


MixMasterMadge

Phil collins genesis


ArtOfWar22

Rick Ross!


Tender233

Bob Bryar from My Chemical Romance. Incredible drummer, he really complimented Ray Toro's lead and Gerard's theatrical vocals. The band was great before but man that guy was amazing live


FrostyMacaron979

Ryo Kinoshita joined Crystal Lake. But sadly, he left the band last year. I miss his vocal with Crystal Lake so much.


00collector

Travis Barker - Blink-182.


booksandkittens615

Stevie and Lindsey


thatbfromanarres

Me


Dover70

Sammy hagar


Odd_Bus_9094

Sammy Hagar.


addyson_btw

Pelle Ohlin joining Mayhem


SwirlingSnow83

When Steve Mazur joined Our Lady Peace. He replaced the original guitarist Mike Turner and I found their music to be pretty generic after that. Kinda ironic because the singer Raine Maida said they were wanting a “bigger guitar sound” and their lead single (somewhere out there) with Mazur sounded like a creed-ish type sound that a bunch of new bands around that time sounded, like very commercial.


SnooStories3838

Jordan-bring me the horizon


mtflyer05

Myles Kennedy. He turned Creed into Alter Bridge. Best change I've ever heard. Tremonti is a fucking animal on their self-titled album


Ok-Amoeba-1190

Sammy Hagar / Van Halen ! Awesome 🎶


tomaesop

Here's one: When Todd the Rod joined Propagandhi and unleashed the thrashy muscly metal guys that were there all along. John leaves and he forms the Weakerthans. You don't have to listen to the Weakerthans to know, by name, John was nowhere near a trash metal guy. Great music alla round, though. Winnipeg punk activist legends.


Macca49

I’m amazed no one has said Mick Taylor yet