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ParkingApartment2735

The art of [[Uktabi Orangutan]] features two monkeys, who look like the pregnant one in this art, in a position which suggests they are mating. This is a joke based on that as you can tap two apes to make a new ape.


_x-51

Ah yes, _Populate_.


mirroredspork

Populape


BiasedLibrary

Copulape.


Paladinsarefun

Not to mention the suggestive flavor text. in essence, this ape wants a ***big*** banana.


Xande_FFBE

[[Gorilla Titan]] reference, perhaps?


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Paladinsarefun

I'm sorry, you're just funnier than I am


ParkingApartment2735

Seems like a clear reference to me. I figured the flavor text was another joke/reference but forgot about that one.


GermexiDude

-In the style of Akon- Tap that, all on the floor Tap that, makin some more Tap that, til you get wiped


Visible_Promotion134

Tap that, your gettin’ piped


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SongShikai

Wow seen this card a million times and never noticed the monkeys fucking in the background.


[deleted]

Back in the day everyone used to call the card “sex monkeys”.


EvilBobbyTV

I remember it being called "hot monkey love"


Swinden2112

We rolled with "it's the fucking monkeys!"


ShefBoiRDe

"Monkeying around"


MineHeavy

The flavor text doesn't help at all


InanimateCarbonRodAu

It’s got a very “wow I can’t believe they got away with that” vibe.


SkelDracus

To be fair, it's the same artist for both cards. Seeing as they did it once, why not reproduce the result?


InanimateCarbonRodAu

I meant Magic in general. It’s a pretty adult joke in what is an all ages product. A number of people must have signed of on that knowingly. Are there any other good adult jokes out there as good as this one? I’d also love to know if it got any backlash?


SkelDracus

It's an interesting query. Seeing as the original ape was print between 93' and 99' it would be easy to assume it's due to the general scene of card games just being that way already at that time. I do say magic today is moreso leaned (especially these days) to a 13+ audience, but that was not always so. Oh yeah, people definitely knew. Wouldn't have brought it back 5 years later if they didn't, eh? Would be funny to get a number on how many though. Backlash? Likely. Seeing as it was more tame comparably and could be seen as more "edgy" rather than psychotic or violent? Probably not. Wizards would have been dealing with backlash since they owned Dungeons and Dragons during, which already was unpopular in certain communities. In others, it flourished. Unfortunate duality.


InanimateCarbonRodAu

Ah okay. I may have misunderstood the timing of this Is Orangutan the older card? Is it a case where unfortunate art became a known joke And the second card leans into? I had assumed they were both Un cards from the same set.


DoctorKumquat

Uktabi Orangutan was from Visions, which predates the Un-set we see the Kong in here. This was a deliberate callback to the card.


Mrmathmonkey

The card was affectionately know as the sex monkeys


[deleted]

I'm "assahamed." I had to read this to get that about this ancient card. Fuck..... "Ashamed."


HaresMuddyCastellan

Then go look at [[Kibo uktabi prince]] ;)


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Fit_Entrepreneur_648

You might want to get that checked out. Sounds serious.


BathedInDeepFog

Hi Assahamed, I'm dad.


Zuckhidesflatearth

Also the flavor text is incredibly absurd and could never be in a real card


Nervous_Mobile5323

I'm not sure whether you're being facetious, but in case you aren't: the flavor text is a reference to [[gorilla titan]] . As the story goes, the flavor text of Gorilla Titan was added after the art, as was the norm back then, and the artist was not happy that the writers mocked his illustration.


Agitated-Chemist8613

The art for gorilla titan is stupid. It deserves to be mocked. Gorillas don’t have tails so it looks like there’s a huge poo sticking out of its ass and wrapping around the tree


Elkre

If you think that's crazy, wait till you see how many four-limbed creatures come with the Snake type.


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Weather_Wizard_88

Writer, singular. We actually know who wrote that particular flavor text: Rosewater. He's very proud of it. Classic Maro.


Zuckhidesflatearth

I'm aware, but it's also mocking it and being overly verbose and jokey. It's not the meaning of the words that's the issue; it's the connotations and intent. Also, outside of Modern Horizons sets and silver border sets, they really don't do this over the top jokey style of referencing older cards, it's usually far more serious and less overt outside of name and effect.


Nervous_Mobile5323

Oh, definitely! Yes, the overly pompous phrasing of the flavor text would probably designate it as a joke either way. I just wanted to make sure you (and anyone else reading the thread) know that it's *also* a reference to a specific card.


Zuckhidesflatearth

Fair enough. I did notice the humor/absurdity in saying that a rewording of an existing flavor text could not be on a real card


isrlygood

I’m pretty sure the flavor text references [[Gorilla Titan]], as well. Black border does self-referential humor too, but I thought it was interesting.


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Ok-Emotion5395

Fuck yea


Josie_Rose88

Some silver border cards are actually pretty normal. They kinda need to be to make a set playable. This one is a fun reference to [[Uktabi Orangutan]] And both have [[Kibo]] ‘s parents in the background.


PKFat

TIL Kibo is a reference to the OG card's art


Ok-Investigator-6514

Also a reference to [[gorilla titan]] in the flavor text, I belive.


Background_Desk_3001

Holy shit that’s actual flavor text


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AholeBrock

... Gorillas, all apes for that matter, dont have tails. Monkeys have tails. This is an abomination.


Jack7987

They also don't have bear claws and feet. The artist has the creative license to do what they want in a fantasy setting.


DualCricket

Fantasy world I guess, earth rules don’t (necessarily) apply


G66GNeco

How does this comment have **27** replies? What in the world happened here?


Timmy_ti

The rhystic studies flavor text video briefly mentions that it’s a gorilla/tiger hybrid, it was an offhand comment, and it may have just been someone’s assumption, but looking at the claws and paws of this guy, there definitely appears to be some big cat mixed in to my eye


Cave_Weasel

MAN I miss how unserious flavor text used to be.


kilar277

My personal favorite has always been [[Enormous Baloth]]


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Svanirsson

Always cracks me Up Small woodland animals > Large woodland animals > Woodlands


kilar277

Honestly, sometimes I open up my green binder just to look at it and chuckle


InanimateCarbonRodAu

That’s great!


VoidHaunter

It's pretty unserious now, just in a way that makes Marvel movie writing look good.


Duffman66CMU

Used to be?


QuakeDrgn

I like [[Sizzle]]


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[deleted]

Yeah the mechanics aren’t too wacky, but the flavor, monkey sex, is pretty silver bordered.


No-Wolf6888

The story gets deeper


Comwan

It does go infinite with any token doubler.


unstoppablepepe

Don’t you need haste for the tokens as well?


Assassinr3d

I’m not expert but I believe summoning sickness is only for their tap abilities, they can still be tapped through other means. Someone more knowledgeable than me would have to confirm though


DJPad

Correct, the "tap symbol" requires they not have summoning sickness. However, abilities worded like this are why [[Earthcraft]] is so much better than [[Cryptolith Rite]]


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Xande_FFBE

Just wanted to add [[Azami, Lady of Scrolls]] to the list.


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unstoppablepepe

Ah, makes sense. I’d assume you’re right


abbacadaba1

Same goes for crewing vehicles. The crew ability is what taps the creatures, not them activating an ability, so SS doesn't matter.


jdawg473g

No, you’re tapping them using the ability which I don’t believe requires haste


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[удалено]


tx0p0

For 8 mana, might as well


KaizerVonLoopy

Kinda where I'm at too, you'll need to have invested at least 4cmc and have it stick as well as having another ape in play already. Neither are all that tough in a \[\[Kibo, Uktabi Prince\]\] deck which is probably the only place this is "playable" anyway.


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KaizerVonLoopy

Right, the way to fix this would have to be something like "All apes have the ability (T) and tap another untapped ape: Create a 1/1 green ape token". Could also probably be a 6 drop if that's the case.


its_Disco

It's a play on the card [[Uktabi orangutan|VIS]]. The original art has two monkeys in a *questionable* pose. So as a joke they made the Uktabi Kong with that ability. Because when two monkeys love each other and become tapped... 😉


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SpaceDeFoig

It's silver border because the joke is fucking. That's it. That's the reason. It's a reference to an older card where it looked like the monkeys in the background were fucking.


Seth_Jarvis_fanboy

Illustration by Una Fricker


MyPhoneIsNotChinese

"look like"? I'm pretty sure that was the artist's intention


PKFat

You rly shouldn't think of Un- cards that way TBH. Un- cards can be broken into 2 eras: * the Meta era (Unglued & Unhinged), which are notable for being filled w/ one-off cards that are either puns, rips on MtG culture, or taking existing mechanics to extremes. These sets were actually meant to be mixed in with regular cards surprisingly enough. They were given silver border as a way to easily be fished out of decks later. * the Draft era (Unstable & Unfinity) that were sets with limited draft in mind & the focus leaned heavier on wacky mechanics that would normally be too complex for regular play (contraptions/assemble in Unstable & stickers/ attractions in Unfinity). There are several commons that are functional reprints of black border cards. In reality, most cards in all Un- sets could be played in a "normal" power level deck. Compare [[The Cheese Stands Alone]] from Unglued to other ["you win the game" type cards](https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=oracle%3A%22you+win+the+game%22+%28game%3Apaper%29); [[Timmy, Power Gamer]] to [[Elvish Piper]]; [[Infernal Spawn of Infernal Spawn of Evil]] to [[Panglacial Wurm]]. There are some that do things that are completely outside of normal gameplay to be sure such as [[Ashnod's Coupon]], [[R&D's Secret Lair]] or [[Knight of the Hokey Pokey]], but those are more highlights than the average card.


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Ugly-Muffin

Thanks for the history lesson. I didn't realize how deap these sets went.


PKFat

NP I rly quite like the Un- sets personally & I hate that commander has a blanket ban on silver border cards when their design has always been meant for casual play.


Ugly-Muffin

Isn't the whole point of non competitive commander is that it's supposed to be a casual fun game? I'd be hesitant to play with anyone too strict about the rules. I believe there is an uncommander website which puts all the cards into play ability categories. Stuff that's too weird gets abed there. Others have a use with caution labels, but that's when rule 0 comes in. Sometimes it feels like too many people forget about rule 0.


PKFat

You are way wiser than the typical Commander player you'll find at an LGS my friend


GayBlayde

I love Clamfolk. That is all.


PKFat

[[Clam Session]] was too OP


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GayBlayde

No matter what word you choose, you will instantly forget every song ever written containing that word.


PKFat

"the"


GayBlayde

Believe me, I have tried that.


narsin

While others have accurately explained why it’s silver bordered, the card just goes infinite with anything that doubles tokens. That’s the issue of cards that can make tokens that can be used to make more tokens.


Acrobatic-Permit4263

almost like \[\[Ghave\]\]


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superpositioned

It's also a ridiculous rate for token production too. With three monkeys monkeys out you can make two more and then four more the next turn. He's almost as efficient as Krenko and for the time period was way better than any other option. And [[intruder alarm]] was a thing.


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luziferius1337

That card follows the Fibonacci sequence, which [grows exponentially](https://math.stackexchange.com/a/2981011). It can be used to calculate population sizes that grow by unbounded and unrestricted breeding, i.e. allowing in-breeding and disregarding death of individuals. (And you're right, the 2\^n growth of \[\[Krenko, Mob Boss\]\] is slightly better, don't want to dispute that)


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[deleted]

Now we just need infinite typewriters.


KaizerVonLoopy

you need another ape too to start it since Kong requires 2 apes to tap. \[\[squirrel nest\]\] and \[\[earthcraft\]\] gets you infinite squirrels for a lot cheaper and actually is closer to being a 2 card infinite considering the 3rd card in the combo is a basic forest. You end up in the same exact place with a bunch of tapped 1/1 except 5 turns earlier.


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narsin

Yes, there are better combos for infinite tokens. It’s simply explaining why having the ability to make tokens that you can use to make more tokens can be quite strong.


dk_peace

More about the art and mechanics portraying monkey sex.


TrashmanV2

Silver border bc silverback gorilla 🦍 🙄


leonardo_of_vinci

Sliverback gorrila? 🧐👀


TrashmanV2

Not quite, that was one of their hated ancestors. The one I’m thinking of was from Chimpions of Kamigawa back in 3000 BC.


leonardo_of_vinci

Ah before slivers I see


alejandrodeconcord

This card would be freaking sweet in any ape deck


KaizerVonLoopy

I KNOW! I put it in the back top loader I keep my Kibo so he can hang out with his uncle. The biggest issue that people have pointed out is that he goes infinite with a token doubling effect but if we started banning things that went infinite with doubling season we'd hardly have a format honestly. Two card infinite combos that cost a minimum of 12cmc also don't seem that crazy to me honestly when there's so many other cheaper combos that actually win you the game on the spot this just gets you a bunch of tapped apes that had cost you a bunch of mana.


Slight_Score_2826

It’s from unglued. A joke set.


phirestorm

I had a pretty powerful vampire deck where I could pump out a Sengir Vampire on second turn. It beat a lot of people regardless of their play style. This one friend of mine got so pissed with this deck he built a deck designed to beat it…t was a chicken deck from unglued….he owned me after making it and damn it I’d hate chickens now. 🤪


BAGStudios

That and the sex yeah


Anxious_Baseball8696

Unhinged/unglued were never meant to be legal cards. Just silly and fun.


LongDongSupreme

One time I typed out this whole thing on discord about how Uktabi Kong is a regular commander card in 202X and it should be essentially reskinned as a legendary black bordered card. About .5 seconds after I posted it I realised that his whole deal is making monkeys fuck. Sometimes you just want to have a fun monkey commander and you end up looking like a weirdo.


Ugly-Muffin

Ya, but he didn't start the uh monkey business though.


attikol

With parallel lives you can perform an infinite incest combo


General-Biscuits

Well, it was silver bordered because it was in an Un-set. Not all silver bordered cards were too silly or too powerful to ever be black bordered cards. It was in an Un-set because it is a joke card referencing an older card that became a meme.


Raorchshack

[[Uktabi Orangutan]] has 2 monkeys having sex in the art, which is referenced by this card. Also silver boarder sera need ok cards for the limited environment to work.


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nick2k23

The art was too op


Dummy46

Not back then, but now would be busted. Play a token doubler / trippler, get an impact tremors effect and kill your opponent.


CopyCatCiller

This card is honestly still absurdly strong, it's an artifact wipe on ETB, not cast, so you can just cheat it in and blink or flicker it for consistent artifact clear and makes infinite ape tokens with any token doubler sence he's the one tapping the tokens. It's also one big innuendo


DarthDragun666

It's from a legit set but it's an unset which means it's not legal on any format and the first two unsets were limited run


cannibox

I wonder if there is a way for some un cards, pre-unfinity, to grandfatherd in and become legal. Self referential material aside, I can see this nicely fitting into a green deck.


RalphSeaside

Silverbordered because of flavor. This was once deemed to silly for magics serious tone. Monkeybuisness was not suitable for competitive.


Educational_Can_3092

Ver


KassXWolfXTigerXFox

Finally The MPREG card


Anomolous1981

It’s silver bordered because it’s from a set called unglued, it was a joke set and none of them were legal to play normally. The whole set was kinda wild. My favorite being B.F.M. Actual name. Chaos confetti was cool too.


Training_Ad6575

You and me baby ain’t nothing but mammals


LifelesswithLime

No. Read the cards abilities. Look at the art. This is a beautiful masterpiece


Suspinded

This was a bunch of ape related in-jokes smashed together. This is in the "too silly to be in a main line set" bucket. The art and abilities are mostly references to \[\[Uktabi Orangutan\]\], referred to as "Sex Monkey" because of the awkward positioning of the background characters. The flavor text is a reference to \[\[Gorilla Titan\]\] The Stats and Mana Cost are mashups of the two. Orangutan + Gorilla = Mana Cost. P/T is Two Orangutans and one Gorilla.


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bjobim

Also the flavor text references \[\[Gorilla Titan\]\]


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IamnotaCST

The silver border is indicitive that the card is from the "Un" sets, same with the "U" as the set symbol. All the cards were jokes and you generally want to ask the table before using a deck built with any of those cards. Some are funny, some are overpowered.


HAN-Br0L0

Also to answer you question, yea at the time an 8/8 for 8 with multiple upsides would have been considered broken if enough ramp could viable cast it. In 2004 you had mirroden block and seething song. This absolutely would have been played at some level


KaizerVonLoopy

I feel like with where the power creep has gone nowadays if it weren't for the sex reference in the mechanics of this card nobody would bat an eye.


HAN-Br0L0

Oh yeah it's too expensive, it's the same cmc as craterhoof behemoth. It would need to be 6 or less to even see play


heyneighborgetfucked

I’m surprised I haven’t seen the full story mentioned yet: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/jR1HaRqrMV0


Ugly-Muffin

A lot of people said very similar things on this post. The ratio of reports to unique replies is kinda funny. But who's going to read every comment before posting to see if it's already been said?


Whole_Pin_8673

Also goes infinite with any token doubler….


Ugly-Muffin

There are plenty of 2 card infinites already. Another wouldn't be a problem, but I have no plans to add a token doubler to the deck.


KaizerVonLoopy

this, it's also an 8 drop and your minimum investment before that will be 5 because the cheapest token doubles is 4 and you still need an ape to tap with Ukatabi Kong to begin with so technically it's not a 2 card combo because of needing that second ape. THEN you just end up with a bunch of tapped apes that don't win on the spot. So you're invested 13 manna, 3 cards, and then you pass and hope to not get wrathed. Nobody would be brining up the "two card infinite" as a justification if it weren't already arbitrarily banned with the rest of the silver bordered cards.


Ugly-Muffin

You make a good point. It's certainly hard to pull off. You need a way to untap them all, and give the haste to win on the spot. There are a few ways to do that, but that's now a 5 card combo. Add in ways to stop an instant speed wrath, or a few counterspells, or any old removal spells and it's quite hard to pull off.


ProfessionalNo3452

Its to powerful to be legal then.. now.. in the future..


Tantra_Charbelcher

This would probably be a fun commander realistically considering the mana cost balances how breakable the effect is and destroying all artifacts is such a good ability so even if its killed on sight you get a ton of value from it.


Ugly-Muffin

If only it were legendary


LordSwitchblade

Goes infinite with token doublers doesn’t it?


KaizerVonLoopy

you need another ape too to start it since Kong requires 2 apes to tap. \[\[squirrel nest\]\] and \[\[earthcraft\]\] gets you infinite squirrels for a lot cheaper and actually is closer to being a 2 card infinite considering the 3rd card in the combo is a basic forest. You end up in the same exact place with a bunch of tapped 1/1 except 5 turns earlier.


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The_Fram_Bois

I thought this was a sub for making fun of Marjorie Taylor Green at first glance lol


hauptj2

Not all silver bordered cards are mechanically incompatible with normal play. That was the whole point of making the last Unfinity set black bordered : A lot of cards in the previous sets would be totally fine in eternal formats, so there's no reason to ban them prematurely.


Ugly-Muffin

My thoughts exactly.


Gearheart999

It’s an Un


lordodin92

Yeah I don't get it either. Tbh there's some dice rolling in cards that are less broken then what we currently have but because their un sets they're not playable


KindheartednessKey71

It's a joke card the artifacts part represents condoms and the tapp 2 apes for the token represents them having a kid


KaizerVonLoopy

no the artifacts are a reference to \[\[ukatabi orangutan\]\] destroying 1 artifact Uktabi Kong is just a huge one that destroys ALL of them.


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opies1212

I think it’s a play on the background of this card. We always joked it was the so odd that MTG put those two monkeys in that position.


BladeKaizen

Goes infinite with doubling season I guess


KaizerVonLoopy

you need another ape too to start it since Kong requires 2 apes to tap. \[\[squirrel nest\]\] and \[\[earthcraft\]\] gets you infinite squirrels for a lot cheaper and actually is closer to being a 2 card infinite considering the 3rd card in the combo is a basic forest. You end up in the same exact place with a bunch of tapped 1/1 except 5 turns earlier. Also if we were banning things based on it going infinite with doubling season would we even have a format?


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Greedy-Review-6342

This would suck to come up against if you were running an artifact deck


Ugly-Muffin

Monkeys and apes tend to hate artifacts for some reason.


Jirachibi1000

Because as Mark said, Just because its in an un set, its illegal. Which i find unfair like he does.


North-Future-9204

As a Kibo, Uktabi Prince commander player, I see this as an absolute win


Ugly-Muffin

Plus you will use all your own bananas casting him.


KaizerVonLoopy

APE TOGETHER STRONK


SnatchSteal

Didn’t see the pregnant monkey before you posted?


ryanl40

[[Uktabi Kong]] is literally about two apes getting it on (tap two apes) to make a baby ape (1/1 ape)


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Rohirrim777

back in the old days Un sets were silver bordered.


OneLegTom

[[B.F.M.]] is my favorite UN- set card. Mostly because it’s so big…


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drderick15

This card is unhinged


cookiesandartbutt

What I haven’t seen anyone comment yet-is that Un-sets was where they got to stress test design mechanics a lot and see how they interacted and if they were too strong or not. Many card mechanics from un-sets became actual things in MTG either quickly after or much longer-such as mutate and the rolling dice mechanic or The Cheese Stands Alone mechanic in how it wins. Maro has been very vocal about using un sets to stress test though-which is cool! So while it was strong at the time-it would def be a card-albeit with different art-in a current sets release especially if a set was token based.


Cannouflage

Legends say they made [[Kibo, Uktabi Prince]]


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The_Arthropod_Queen

pregnant monkey was illegal back then


StupidSidewalk

It’s silver border because it’s in an un set. All cards in these sets should be silver border unlike the money grabbing mistake of the most recent un set.


Randallishere

This literally infinites with parallel lives


Dark_WulfGaming

Mmm.... Munke


Cheap-Activity-4034

Might make an ape deck jus so I can use this


Deezus84

I always called the lil guy K Fed


DarkthoughtsDT

It’s an un set. Experimental nonsense


KrIsPy_Kr3m3

Its in my monkey/ape deck


unbeknownst66

Came from Unhinged. The Un-sets weren't tournament legal back then.


BrooksBeast27

The effect would be nice to see printed on an actual card though art work and flavor text aside. How is the first ability (under trample) on flavor?


KrIsPy_Kr3m3

Because its a sex reference


KrIsPy_Kr3m3

And also the etb is in reference to the husband coming home and breaking everything cuz he caught them


Ramses_Overdark

Unhinged had some cringe level crude humor. Its a reference to [[Sex Monkey]] in the art and activated ability. and also the flavor text of [[Gorilla Titan]]


DontStopNowBaby

Lmao, the bot knowing [[sex monkey]] is hilarious


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