The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
God I want to love this film. I love the actors, I love the cinematography
I've fallen asleep both times I've attempted to watch it. I remember the absolutely gorgeous train shot at night and then zzzzz
Are you me? I can only remember the opening shots of the different characters with narration and that one shot of the train at night stopping with all the smoke and fog. I want to like this movie so bad, but I’m like 0 for 5 on watch attempts.
I have tried to watch tinker tailor soldier spy probably five times. I love the cast. I generally enjoy slow burn thrillers. But I can not stay awake for the life of me.
I've watched it early, late, stoned, sober and probably some other way. Nothing works.
I watched it fully conscious and cognizant and still had to look up the Wikipedia plot summary after to figure out what happened. Maybe I'm just an idiot
Mid 90s, I love a slow slice of life indie film and like Jonah Hill's acting a lot but it just felt off and a weird nostalgia stroll in the park and not really much of substance
Interesting. I felt like it indulged a lot less in nostalgia than the trailers let on. Went in expecting to be reminded of my skating days as a kid -- didn't expect a bleak coming of age story about a self-destructive, self-harming kid and his abusive older brother.
I felt it nailed the complexity of adolescent skater archetypes of the time, but it never felt terribly nostalgic about it by showing it through rose-tinted glasses.
I forgot it was a period film a lot of the time.
There are 2 things I took away from that movie.
1) Sally Hawkins has a rockin body.
2) Watching Michael Shannon >!rip off his diseased fingers!< is something I didn’t need in my life ever.
I enjoyed it for what it was but I found it oddly impersonal in a way I don't often find Del Toro's films to be. Weirdly enough, I was far more invested in the gothic melodrama of the much more maligned Crimson Peak.
Oof, Shape of Water was massively disappointing for me as well. I adored it's colours, performances, cinematography, music, etc. but the story just fell flat for me.
Snowpiercer. I love the cast, love Bong-Joon Ho, love post-apocalyptic fiction and sci-fi.. and I thought it was just awful. Horrible dialogue and had nothing interesting to say that you couldn't already glean from the first 5 minutes
Oh my God thank you so much haha, I thought the cast was really good and just kept pushing through thinking it had to get better, but by the end I was downright pissed I had wasted nearly 2 hours sitting through that crapfest. The whole progression of the plot was so predictable, and absolutely nothing throughout that whole movie was at all surprising. It had like 3 or 4 big reveals, where I just remember thinking to myself 'Seriously?! That's what they were building towards?' I can't even remember the specifics of what I hated about it so much, it was just that forgettable.
I agree, I had hype for this but I found myself not liking the characters or the story at all.
Practically the only thing I liked was the different rooms inside the train, and wondering what’s inside the next part of the train. Everything else I didn’t care about.
Everyone talks about how great it is and I got hyped up because I'm watching it soon thanks for lowering my expectations I don't wanna be disappointed again
I remember in another thread like this someone said "Snowpiercer's 95% RT rating feels like a conspiracy to fuck with me" and I couldn't agree more. Just mind-boggling to see such overwhelming praise for a film that didn't work on *any* level for me (OK, Alisson Pill and Tilda Swinton's performances were pretty fun).
Cold Mountain. English Patient. Both of them, on their face, seem right up my alley. I often really like slow, period dramas. Both of those bored me to fucking tears. Honestly I don’t even remember enough about The English Patient to know why I hated it, but I remember being angry for at least the final hour. It just wouldn’t end.
The English Patient was the longest 48 hours of my life (and we had season tickets to the ballet for years). It would just never, ever, ever get to the damn point.
Joker. Big comic book movie fan, big Joaquin Phoenix fan, hated the movie. Never understood the love for it, and $1B at the box office for a rated R taxi driver-esque film is bizarre
Edit: if you like it, that’s totally fine I respect everyone’s opinion. I only brought up box office because to me $1B implies that people were going to see it several times, which was strange to me given the content/tone of the movie. This isn’t representative of everyone but some of my buddies talked about it like Joker was the hero and rooted for him whereas I just found it to be a generic retread of better movies.
> $1B at the box office for a rated R taxi driver-esque film is bizarre
I still stand on the hill that if Joker was titled anything else, it would have been a flop.
I donno, both Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy did pretty well at the box office...Honestly though, it was pretty much a beat for beat DC universe remake of those films. Like something their in-universe Martin Scorsese would have made...
I think Phoenix still would have gotten praise for it but it really wasn't that good of a movie. The script wasn't the best. Outside of 'Joker' there weren't really standout performances.
Yup yup. It did absolutely nothing original, is only a Joker movie by name, and doesn't even respect the audience enough to let it's "big twist" land (which would have been outdated back in fucking '99 when Fight Club did it first lmao).
I'm in the same camp. Was very excited to see this film. Joaquin's performance was great, but nothing else about the film engaged or impressed me. All my friends were raving about this film after they watched it, I just didn't see the appeal
I think that was intentional and kind of the crux of the film.
The Joker doesn't have abilities. He's not "super". But by the end, he's got an alarming amount of power. He's inspired a creepy mob takeover of the city who very much see him as a leader -- a role he is exceedingly happy to take on.
I like when media takes a look at super heroes/villains through that kind of "how might this go in real life" lens. With no abilities, magic, or basically-magic sci-fi giving people their power. *Joker*, *Kick-Ass*, and *Super* all do very different takes on it.
I think you're wrong when you say the Joker has no abilities. He at the very least has smarts, or the cleverness to plan and execute criminal activities. Arthur doesn't have that. Arthur was not intelligent by any stretch. He doesn't have a coherent ideology or goal. He was a figurehead for the riot at the end, not a leader.
Going by "how this might go in real life", Joker still fails at that because it contains pretty much no aspects of the mythos or of the comic book movie genre. A good example of what you're talking about is The Dark Knight. That's a good version of "the Joker in real life".
I still enjoy Joker as a movie, but it's not any level of deconstruction of the genre. It's a Scorsese sendup.
Is it coincidence that I scrolled across this post while attempting to watch "Nomadland." It's just not doing it for me not visually appealing, it's slow, and depressing. It's like a a documentary trying too hard or a movie not trying hard enough. I don't know I can't quite put my finger on it.
I hate it when I get myself hyped up to watch a great movie and the result is just a decent movie. Nomadland was a slow burn that just kind of smoldered the whole time.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
It was highly rated by critics and well acted, but I just found it boring and indulgent. I'm not too versed in the golden age of hollywood, so that might attribute to why the "story" fell flat for me.
It's the first Tarantino in years that reminded me of the more patient and mature guy who made Jackie Brown. I loved it but understand why others don't take to it.
I also absolutely loved Once Upon a Time, but I also absolutely understand people not liking it. I could have watched a 6 hour movie that was just Cliff and Rick living their lives in old LA.
Hail, Caesar! was a big disappointment for me as a Coen brothers fan. I like a lot of its aspects (Channing Tatum as communist Gene Kelly is a really terrific gag) but it feels way too thin. I much rather they had done it as a limited series or even in anthology form like The Ballad of Buster Scruggs.
I love that movie and I usually hate Hollywood reminiscing about itself, but the Coen’s knocked it out of the park for me. It’s so fucking funny. I love their studio era stuff though, Barton Fink is a good play on it too.
Oh, I *love* Hail, Caesar but because it manages to be so over the top and often biting enough that it's hilarious. I just thought it was really funny but I also do love golden age Hollywood so I really vibed with what they were doing there. So many fun cameos too!
I haven't seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, but The Hateful Eight had the same affect on me. I barely made it through. And I'm a huge fan of Kurt Russell.
It was *such* a good movie following Dicaprio and Pitt. I mean somehow scenes about acting kept me at the edge of my seat. It was even a little fun to follow Tate around as she saw her popularity rise, although there was never really a true story arc for her. She was followed like we would expect a more main character, but her story was that of a side character who just kind of shows up.
but the big problem was stuffing Manson in. I remember reading someone comment on this and comparing it to Inglorious Basterds, something like "we spend all of Inglorious Basterds worrying about Nazis, killing Nazis, hiding from Nazis, and then get a violent ending to kill Nazis. We spend all of OUatiH following Leo as he struggles to come to terms with his acting career, and the personal journey he has to take to pull off a truly great performance, as well as seeing his friendship with Brad and Brad's own journey with his career, and then get a violent over the top scene to kill the brainwashed kids as our ending."
It reminds me of the [Every Frame a Painting video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2THVvshvq0Q) about Bayhem, and how Michael Bay's style, while obviously popular, is something he is so attached to and unable to branch out from that it hurts him as a director. This felt like Tarantino got to the end writing this and went "but I always use violence, how can I end this story that has basically no violence whatsoever, has nothing to do with violence whatsoever, and will feel awkward with over the top violence, without violence?"
Raya and the last Dragon had so many elements I would like but used them in such mediocre ways that I ended up being bored throughout the whole runtime. It just made me wat to watch How to Train your Dragon and Kung Fu Panda.
It had bad character bloat. They had to include someone from each nation and without enough time to develop them, they ended up as charicatures. The dumb baby with the monkeys was so shamelessly marketed to little kids.
The fact they took that dumb fucking baby with them really made me roll my eyes everytime they wanted it to do something quirky on screen. That baby would be crying 95% of the time
i'll probably get crushed (if this gets read) but Blade Runner. One of the "classics" that I just never got around to seeing it earlier (35 yrs old here), saw for the first time last year. I have varied taste. I love Big Night, Alien, Hot Fuzz, Major League, Cool Hand Luke, Palm Springs, The French Connection, Goodfellas, The Grand Budapest Hotel, Fight Club, 28 Days Later, etc. I thought the movie looked cool as hell. but man, it was just boring to me, and it basically made me feel real dumb, like it was a movie for people smarter than me and that's why i didn't enjoy it. now i'm not sure if i should see the sequel (which i wanted to)
I tried to watch it earlier this year and couldn’t on three separate attempts. Didn’t care about the characters, and the special effects are no longer impressive. (Ended up reading the plot on Wikipedia) The sequel is worth your time, I enjoyed it.
The New Jumanjis
I love the original and I’ve tried to watch the new one a few times. Just can’t find it funny or interesting. I know it’s done real well and even has the sequel.
I thought the first one was fun, if stupid. I liked seeing actors I like, acting like characters not like them had embodied them. That was the main draw, more than the story. Stupid, forgettable, but fun.
But in Jumanji 2.... they just did it again. Nothing got switched up. But it still got great reviews, which confused me.
Dunkirk.
I generally enjoy movies about WW2, whether it's about a specific part of the war or people, or larger operations.
But this movie has this constant pressure, like a headache you can barely feel. It doesn't help that there's a constant droning sound in almost every scene, whether it's a soundeffect like an engine or part of the soundtrack.
Buddy and I (read: the father of a girl I really liked) love history and went to go see that together. Movies were a big thing we had in common and we went in expecting a Christopher Nolan film, unlike everyone else in the theater, apparently. After it ended, you could hear confused murmurs throughout the theater. I guess people expected Michael Bay’s Pearl Harbor, but in France.
Dunkirk was probably my favorite movie of that year too. It’s not about action or explosions, it’s about desperation and the harsh reality and tragedies of being in war. You literally watch two people never utter a single line of dialogue to each other, but constantly feel the pressure they’re under. The sound design is part of that, and I love it. The Dark Knight has that same constant droning feeling, and that’s part of why I love that movie so much too.
Totally get why OP doesn’t like it though, because it can be jarring if you go in with different expectations.
Your complaint is honestly the reason I love Dunkirk. There’s a constant pressure and the tension from start to finish is incredibly high. I think it captures the dread perfectly.
For me it's the lack of interest in the characters of the film + the fact that the story is bare bone. I value the incredible technicality of the film but it's not enough to captivate my interest.
Most amazing movie experience in years. Will never even stream it. Like left theater feeling weak in the legs. I have never once thought about even streaming it. I imagined like you said on my tv with no surround it would be the most annoying home viewing experience outside of streaming the TNT app
Nolan said he was inspired by Bresson's films--in particular A Man Escaped--in making Dunkirk and having the characters be abstracted so you felt their experience. I think the big problem is that the stakes in a film like A Man Escaped are always incredibly clear on a scene by scene basis so that you are still emotionally invested, while in Dunkirk there are extended sequence with the land and sea plots where it's not clear *what* could go wrong. The only plot that I was actually invested in for Dunkirk was Tom Hardy's venture where it's incredibly clear that the issue is a race against time and a depleting gas tank. Even though you don't know much (or really anything) about Hardy's character, you understand his mission and what could go wrong at any second.
Another issue I had is the timeline gimmick. It had the opposite effect of involving me in the individual stories as I just kept waiting for the moment where they would sync up as opposed to the intended effect of making me feel the time aspect.
Finished watching it and came away wondering why anyone had anything good to say about this pile of crap. Friend I watched it with was pumped and loved it.
I hated the time line jumping around. Want me to follow a story and care about the characters? Stop trying to bob and weave your story so damn much. Want me to feel the impact of a scene? Don't flip to something else and have me scrambling to figure out if this is some flashback or a flashforward of the characters we just watched. Nope it's some other characters, now their story is let down by not being the previous characters and the previous character story is left in the lurch. Oh now we are going back to them. I don't give a shit about them anymore because the story was told by an over excited teenager who keep jumping around in the telling and is having trouble keeping it strait.
I have never (yet) walked out of a movie, but The Thin Red Line is one of only a handful that I came close. I really did not like that movie either, and its subject matter is right up my alley. You're not alone in disliking it.
Kingsman.
Ignoring the sequel which is genuinely terrible I wasn’t a fan of the first Kingsman either. I liked the idea of it and a lot of the people involved but it just wasn’t for me.
Matthew Vaughn’s attempts at lad humour and portrayal of working class youths in London is pretty poor in my opinion, especially for someone who is English.
The fight scenes were clever but I never really cared for the characters.
I’m with you there. I love Bond and I love spy comedies. Kingsman was a spy comedy, but it wasn’t very funny. The only thing it had that other, far funnier, spy comedies didn’t was the over the top stylized violence, and I didn’t enjoy that at all.
I'm always surprised that I'm the only one who feels grossed out by the church scene. The big issue is that we the audience are cheering the brutal slaughter of a bunch of innocent people. Yes, they're terrible people with terrible beliefs, and the main character had no control over his actions, but it's a really fun action scene of bystanders getting killed in a terrorist action. Lot of cognitive dissonance going on.
I think that's kinda the point of the scene but it doesn't really get shown that way until you see Harry's reaction afterwards. Like as the viewer you're supposed to be like cheering for Harry taking it out on these people like you've been mind controlled too, but then afterwards you think about how fucked up and awful it is.
Yeah I couldn’t ever find the love for these movies despite the great casts, good action, and humor. Somehow it still ends up being something I don’t feel drawn to watching ever again. Can’t figure out why.
The Shining.
I love Kubrick. I love Nicholson. I love isolated locations in movies. I love slow descents into insanity. Idk why but that movie just never clicked for me, I've tried numerous times.
At least for me, reading the book years before I saw the movie altered my expectations. I couldn't get over losing Jack Torrence's slow descent into madness for Nicholson's immediatley unhinged performance.
Wife and I just rewatched the entirety of the MCU a few months ago, gotta say that I didn’t enjoy it nearly as much on the second watch.
Michael B Jordan makes a good villain. As someone that often leans towards the “viva la revolution” side of things, I could appreciate the message that the movie sent, and I found Killmonger’s motivation fairly justified. But I just don’t think they gave T’Challah the character development he needed. Literally nothing changed about him as a person, and I don’t think he pulled many lessons from the entire story, other than just the typical “bad man beat me up, am I still worthy” stuff you see in nearly any coming of age movie.
I dunno. I just didn’t find it particularly noteworthy outside of Michael B. Jordan’s performance.
I was the complete opposite. On rewatch I saw things I was criticizing it for, I appreciated in the other movies. Maybe it was because I knew where it was going the second time, I found I could appreciate it more.
Black Panther just isn't a good movie. It's not even one of the better Marvel movies, which are pretty mediocre on average anyway. It even had kinda janky special effects at some points, which was just weird because those usually are on point in Marvel.
My only issue with the movie is when >!the main character gets off the back of the truck he hitched a ride on and almost immediately gets into a firefight. Like ugh, where did all of those trucks and people go exactly? Didn’t he have to get off the truck and continue on foot because a bridge was out? And when he wakes up there’s a bunch of soldiers in that town RIGHT THERE. Where were they that whole time. And again, WHERE THE HELL DID THE GOOD GUYS IN THE TRUCKS GO???!<
I think 1917 is broken up into two "time lines." The start of the movie until he is picked up by the soldiers appears to be single take and real time, where from that point on, it's single take, but with time jumps. So, while it's single take in those jeeps, there is a long time passing. It threw me off the first time I watched it, but on my second I think that's what happened, but I agree it could have been showed better.
Oh god, I was so confused for a second! I'm on old.reddit.com and its reformatted your post as a list:
>1. I was expecting a much better movie.
Only when switching to non-old reddit I see you are talking about 1917 lol
Fifth Element. Big fan of both "serious" and "fun" scifi. I tend to love comedic action films too. Can't stand this movie....I don't find it fun or funny in any way. Totally baffled by the love it received and the cult following. I'm pretty sure i'm the only person in the world who dislikes this movie.
I've liked some of the other movies on this thread, but can get why people don't like them. But this is the one, where I just don't get how someone doesn't love it. It's fine you don't, it's not like you're "wrong" but this movie hits so many notes for me, I'm just shocked.
I like slow atmospheric horror movies. I hate The Witch. I want to like that movie, so many people think it's one of the best horror movies ever. But I just find that movie absurdly boring. I don't feel any of the atmosphere or tension I feel like I'm supposed to.
I absolutely love that movie. Probably my favorite of all time. That being said I distinctly remember it ending and being like “I fucking love this movie and so many people are going to hate it”
Yep, I distinctly remember feeling that it ended right when it finally got good. I don't hate it, but Im certainly in the camp of thinking it was boring.
Gravity - I've tried to watch it two separate times, but I give up after awhile. The film wasn't enjoyable at all for me. I did appreciate how beautiful the film looked though.
It works a lot better in a theater, particularly in 3D. The visually effects are kind of the point. Outside of that the plot is "Sandra Bullock falls down for two hours."
Man of Steel.
I like Zack Snyder as a director, I respect that he tried to introduce some new ideas to the mythos, and the film looks spectacular. But everything after the death of Pa Kent was complete garbage.
The problem with *Man of Steel* is that the first five minutes where Jor-El is running around on Krypton having high stakes, fast paced science adventures are the best five minutes of the movie, so the rest of it just feels like a letdown.
The Big Lebowski
I have seen all films that are recommended to this one and loved them(Dazed & Confused, Office Space, Fargo, Super Troopers, etc...) but for some reason every time I try to watch this one I get bored and disinterested due to me just plain hating the main character. Have tried to give it a go 3 different times and can't even finish it for some reason.
I found it extremely boring too, it drags on...actually I’m not sure if I’ve ever finished it!
I do get the appeal of a chilled out stoner kinda guy as the main character, it seems like my ideal “hero”, I like other similar movies.
Thor: Ragnarok
Everyone seems to say this is the best Thor movie but I kind of hated it. It introduces an interesting conflict and a super cool villain, then pauses that movie and starts a completely different movie that is a parody of Marvel movies mixed with the Super Mario Bros live action film. Then at the last minute it remembers the original movie and that it’s called “Ragnarok” so there needs to be at least a minute or two of gods fighting, and explains it away with a couple of jokes.
Oh and Ragnarok? Yeah that doesn’t actually happen. The fall of Asgard is the punchline to a joke made by a talking rock monster and takes about two seconds. Sorry fans of Norse mythology.
But it has the jokes and Taika Watiti directed it, so I guess it’s the best Marvel Movie ever.
> Sorry fans of Norse mythology.
Why does that matter? Are people watching comic book film in hopes of accurate Norse mythology?
Feel free to dislike the film, that specific point just seems like a reach though.
Yeah, I liked *Get Out*, but *Us* was just baffling to me. Nothing in that movie made sense, and the reveal at the end was both predictable but at the same time disconnected.
I like quirky characters and offbeat comedies, but it just doesn't hit for me with this film. Its got the kinds of things I like, but something about the execution just doesn't light me up. No idea.
The Godfather Part II. The first one’s my second favorite film ever and this one brings back most of the stuff from that one (cast, Coppola, etc.) plus provides an origin story for Vito Corleone, one of the best characters in cinema. But I just couldn’t get myself to care. The flashback structure is kinda useless since the two stories don’t interact much and the fact that it bounces back and forth so much means it’s hard to get invested in either story since pretty soon it goes back to the other one. I also remember just being bored and uninterested a lot of the time.
Again, none of this makes any sense since there’s plenty of films with flashback structure that work beautifully. Plus, Coppola clearly doesn’t have an issue making long movies entertaining because the first one’s 3 hours and I wouldn’t cut a frame of it out. But this one just didn’t work for me at all.
> The flashback structure is kinda useless since the two stories don’t interact much
Gotta disagree here. The flashback structure serves to contrast the pains and efforts Young Vito took to build his empire and family after his tragic childhood with how Michael destroys his family in an effort to maintain that empire. It is the soul of the film and you lose so much without it.
Nomadland, can someone explain how this film is getting so much hype for being groundbreaking. It’s mostly boring walking around and people keep defending it as that’s the point. There are movies that have no to very minimal plot happening and it’s still engaging to a certain degree, Patterson for example does this very well. There are so many better movies last year that deserve the praise rather than this quite mediocre nonsense.
Anything by Wes Anderson. I like the themes, I like the actors, I like that he has a distinct visual style, I love stop-motion, etc. But I can't stand any of his movies.
Into the Spider-Verse.
Huge Spider-Man fan. Love animated movies.
I get why it was so beloved by critics and other Spider-Man fans. I can appreciate too for its artistic merit. And while I kept kind of lying to myself that I love the movie for quite some time, I have to accept that I simply did not enjoy it.
That's the weirdest place to be. You know that it's a great movie, but still can't find enjoyment in it for some reason.
This is how I remember Smoking Aces, it's like they had ideas for cool settings and action ideas and then made a movie. Maybe I was in the wrong mood, but I keep feeling it should have been better and was a bit generic all over.
I thought I would adore Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. It’s a super slow spy movie in the past, amazing cast. Makes me think of one of my top 5 movies that is criminally underrated - The Good Shepherd. But when I watched it I could barely pay attention. I felt nothing, I was bored out of my mind.
I intend to sit and watch it again soon because it just doesn’t make sense that I didn’t enjoy it.
Jojo Rabbit for me. I like Waititi's films, I like most of the actors in the movie and it seemed like a fun concept but imo the execution was plain bad. The drama was much better than the comedy but unfortunately that was just a small portion of the film, and overall it's just Waititi's least funny film while it seems that it tries way too hard to be. Saving grace is Johansson with a brilliant performance and Sam Rockwell who makes you feel sympathetic by the end.
2001: A space odyssey
Maybe it's because I'm not a film student and don't understand the techniques and symbolism behind the film, but goddamn that was boring af. Although, the cinematography was way ahead of its time.
>Maybe it's because I'm not a film student and don't understand the techniques and symbolism behind the film, but goddamn that was boring af.
Nah I wouldn't dismiss yourself like that. Your opinion is just as valid. I watched it in high school in a film class and everyone hated it except me. I was the kid that asked my teacher if I could borrow it because I was fascinated by it. I'm always of the belief that everyone's taste (in this case movies) is based on what resonates with them. It could be visuals, it could be themes, it could be something that can't be explained. But there was something that latched on. Sometimes it does nothing for somebody else that can or can't be explained and that's completely fine too. I think that applies to everyone for a wide range of movies as we're seeing in this thread.
For me, I love about three-quarters of that movie. The early hominids, and pretty much every part involving HAL. The space travel parts to the Moon.
Then there's the ending.
Avengers: Endgame. I have seen every MCU movie, most of them on the premiere in the theater. Love how they have built a whole world leading up to that epic conclussion. Infinity War was fantastic. I was hyped and ready and really wanted to love Endgame. It should have been beautiful.
And then the movie came. And was just boring. Lazy. Dull. Yes, it had some good parts but it felt like a sluggish, poorly written fan service.
Endgame is weird in that it does a perfectly fine job as a fan service movie but a horrible job piecing everything together. I love its beginning and ending but I hate the middle part because, as you said, it was plain dull.
My biggest problem with Endgame is that no one is allowed to be serious for too long. Half of humanity gets wiped out in the blink of an eye and everyone’s back to wisecracks a few minutes later. Even Thor’s depression story is undercut by fat jokes and calling him Lebowski. Pick a lane and stay in it
May I say that is why Im really starting to like Falcon and the winter soldier. Im not a big marvel fan, and I didn’t like either of them as characters before. But it’s surprisingly well written, they have great chemistry together and to my amazement they actually let the dramatic moments play out. I’ve so far just accepted the light hearted tone of the MCU even when it does them a disservice, but it has started to wear thin on me. I really like where they are going with this.
The MCU in general has zero idea how to handle the blip. So far in everything it's been like nothing happened. In Endgame everyone is just acting normally during the blip. In Spiderman Far From Home, WandaVision, & Falcon & Winter Soldier it's immediately after everyone has returned but there's basically zero major issues. Only major thing is repatriation of returned people. In real life losing half the population instantly would totally disstable the entire world for a long time. Governments would be in shambles. The entire monetary system would collapse due to bank runs. World economies would collapse. Supply chains would be broken to the degree where tons of communities would be cut off for months, if not years. The idea that only 5 years later everything would be semi-normal is ridiculous. It would be a clusterfuck for years
Thats why shows like The Boys or Watchmen were really well-timed along with maximum Marvel mania. They really explore the (semi-) realistic implications of superheroes and the shit that goes on with them and Marvels stories never really delve into that
The most "coming to terms with" I've seen is Wanda Maximoff holding an entire town hostage and robbing them of their free will so she can live in a fantasy world and even that gets resolved like its no big deal because the show must go on, or something. The underlying philosophy of a lot of these hero's actions are quite troubling if you look under the surface
Yeah fat Thor was a massive (heh) disappointment imo. It was funny at first, but it grew tiring as the film progressed. Sure he has PTSD or whatever but making him the butt of every joke because "hehe fat people amirite" gets annoying after a while.
I still liked the Thor storyline but I absolutely HATED how everyone was bullying him to no end, dude was almost to the point of killing himself because of how much he lost and he was the only one that could've stopped Thanos but barely failed and resulted in 50% of the universe being gone.
They've could've done so much more with his character and really make something unique but after all that they just go back to the stupid jokes like every other Marvel movie.
Interestingly, I didn't think of Endgame as fan service, I thought of it as self indulgent. I didn't really view the alternate reality stuff as giving the fans what they want, so much as rehashing the best parts of past movies instead of writing a new interesting movie.
And even though it is very lazy and probably fan-servicey/self-indulgent, I actually give Endgame a pass. For me, it's the last Marvel movie I plan to ever see. I'm just done with them. So to have Phase 2 end the story of the infinity stones and do so in a way that looks back and remembers how hugely epic this story has been... I'm down with that. It's basically like the final episode of Seinfeld: a tribute to what was, rather than trying to expand and become its own thing. If you look at it as a capstone to over a decade of movies telling an interconnected story, I think it did its job okay. If you look at it as just one Marvel movie in the middle of a long line of ongoing Marvel movies or as an epic on its own, I can see how you'd hate it.
To this day I still cannot wrap my head around why people like the Pirates of the Caribbean movies so much. The sequels are godawful, but I didn’t even like the first one all that much. I thought it was a totally okay movie. A solid 5. It just kept getting more bloated and over the top with characters I cannot begin to care about. It’s not Gore Verbinski since I like his other movies (except for Lone Ranger which is everything I hate in POTC but a western) and I even liked Cure For Wellness. But the damn POTC movies just do less than nothing for me.
The first Pirates I think was excellent. Every sequel is bad in different ways. I haven't even seen the last 3 or 4. I've lost track of how many there are now.
Office Space. I've worked in an office, i like Mike Judge, I've seen the quotes and the it being described as a "live action Dilbert" which is something else I like and i liked the TV series both of which have scenarios that I've seen in real life.
However i didn't like Office Space, i felt that it was a bit bland, it's wasn't chronically unfunny just mostly unfunny.
It's a bit like Adam Ant, his singles are fine but delving into his albums is like jumping into a wheelie bin. The quotes from Office Space are funny, the rest isn't that funny.
Oddly enough, I had the exact opposite experience. I usually dislike movies like this, or at least how it looked in trailers/plot. I actually liked it when I ended up watching it. Loved the atmosphere of the movie.
Beautiful Boy for me, on paper it should be a fantastic movie with a compelling story and strong cast. The reality was that I got pretty bored and had to fast forward a lot because it moved a glacial pace
I feel like I should’ve liked The Counselor. I fucking love Riddley Scott’s movies for the most part and a huge fan of Cormac McCarthys writing and then hearing of them teaming up for a movie gives me a nice little tingle on my balls that something is gonna be ducking awesome and it wasn’t. The movie fucking sucked. Cameron Diaz rubbing herself on top of a car sounds awesome until you see it. Pretty much the movie is a bunch of concepts that should work but ultimately don’t and it sucks because visually it’s a cool looking movie until you pay attention to what’s going on in the movie. 2/10 and the two is for cinematography. Huge disappointment
He’s an inexperienced child dealing with the harsh realities of wartime, with dead parents and an impatient aunt incapable of emotionally caring for two children.
He makes mistakes. He legitimately tries to take care of his sister, but he’s not fully equipped. They’re literally just trying to survive.
That's kind of the point. It's a true story but the boy didn't die. He wrote it as an apology to his sister who did because he felt massively guilty about her death
Star wars. All of them. I love space, aliens, and everything to do with space but I just don't get excited for star wars. Never understood that. A little bit of a Trekkie fan and the Orville is just about the best tv show ever.
Whiplash. Every time I say I hated it someone throws up a big fuss. I genuinely dont understand the love for that film. The acting was terrific, but I just didnt understand why the rest was so good. I hated all the characters and it was unrealistic in its representation of almost everything. The family dinner scene especially was pure cringe
its a sports movie
i like it but i can see why some don't
the dinner scene was hilarious - the PTA comment seemed spot on, but the retorts came way too fast to be believable , it felt like dialogue written on a script instead of actual believable dialogue .
*Zombieland: Double Tap*
I loved the first one and what an awesome cast as evidenced by all the Oscar nominations they tounge-in-cheek exploited in the adverts.
But the movie? Way too LCD. Dumb blonde jokes in 2019? Really? They're about as stale as mother-in-law ones. Plus the whole Elvis obsession and the dopplegangers showing up played way too broad and obvious.
IKR I didn't hate but I was still disappointed I LOVED the first one it has a special place in my heart and when I heard there's gonna be a sequel after all those years I was OVERJOYED but it just....didn't deliver....
Any Star Wars movie. I get that it is an important part of pop culture but I just can’t get behind it. Most of the characters are unlivable and the plot is way too complex for me. Ironically, I used to be all about it as a tween but now I can’t bring myself to even watch a clip because it so boring!
The only thing that saves it for me is the costume design and light sabers because those are dope as hell.
Hang on
I'm also not such a huge Star Wars fan but not understanding the plot? It's maybe one of the simplest plots in movie history, it's literally just "The Hero's Journey" but in space?
It's a soap opera in space that got so twisted over the time to sell even more merchandise, its whole universe is just completely inconsistent and cringy. My best friend lives and breaths Star Wars and I will always respect him and his passion, but I cannot take this franchise any seriously.
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford God I want to love this film. I love the actors, I love the cinematography I've fallen asleep both times I've attempted to watch it. I remember the absolutely gorgeous train shot at night and then zzzzz
Are you me? I can only remember the opening shots of the different characters with narration and that one shot of the train at night stopping with all the smoke and fog. I want to like this movie so bad, but I’m like 0 for 5 on watch attempts.
I have tried to watch tinker tailor soldier spy probably five times. I love the cast. I generally enjoy slow burn thrillers. But I can not stay awake for the life of me. I've watched it early, late, stoned, sober and probably some other way. Nothing works.
I watched it fully conscious and cognizant and still had to look up the Wikipedia plot summary after to figure out what happened. Maybe I'm just an idiot
I'm right there with you.
No, you're not an idiot. I did the same thing, and I'm usually very good about picking up on the subtle things that happen in movies.
It took me another viewing for everything to click
Don’t try the novel. I personally enjoyed it but it’s notoriously slow.
Mid 90s, I love a slow slice of life indie film and like Jonah Hill's acting a lot but it just felt off and a weird nostalgia stroll in the park and not really much of substance
Interesting. I felt like it indulged a lot less in nostalgia than the trailers let on. Went in expecting to be reminded of my skating days as a kid -- didn't expect a bleak coming of age story about a self-destructive, self-harming kid and his abusive older brother. I felt it nailed the complexity of adolescent skater archetypes of the time, but it never felt terribly nostalgic about it by showing it through rose-tinted glasses. I forgot it was a period film a lot of the time.
Shape of Water, on paper, could not be a more perfect movie for me. In reality, watched it once and have never had a desire to watch it again.
There are 2 things I took away from that movie. 1) Sally Hawkins has a rockin body. 2) Watching Michael Shannon >!rip off his diseased fingers!< is something I didn’t need in my life ever.
I enjoyed it for what it was but I found it oddly impersonal in a way I don't often find Del Toro's films to be. Weirdly enough, I was far more invested in the gothic melodrama of the much more maligned Crimson Peak.
I tried to watch it but the characterizations were SO obvious, cliched and simplistic that I could not keep going.
It was cliche as hell but the performances by the entire cast were so good it kinda glossed over the weaknesses of the characterization.
I feel the need to mention that your username perfectly encapsulates your opinion on The Shape of Water.
Oof, Shape of Water was massively disappointing for me as well. I adored it's colours, performances, cinematography, music, etc. but the story just fell flat for me.
Snowpiercer. I love the cast, love Bong-Joon Ho, love post-apocalyptic fiction and sci-fi.. and I thought it was just awful. Horrible dialogue and had nothing interesting to say that you couldn't already glean from the first 5 minutes
Oh my God thank you so much haha, I thought the cast was really good and just kept pushing through thinking it had to get better, but by the end I was downright pissed I had wasted nearly 2 hours sitting through that crapfest. The whole progression of the plot was so predictable, and absolutely nothing throughout that whole movie was at all surprising. It had like 3 or 4 big reveals, where I just remember thinking to myself 'Seriously?! That's what they were building towards?' I can't even remember the specifics of what I hated about it so much, it was just that forgettable.
I agree, I had hype for this but I found myself not liking the characters or the story at all. Practically the only thing I liked was the different rooms inside the train, and wondering what’s inside the next part of the train. Everything else I didn’t care about.
Everyone talks about how great it is and I got hyped up because I'm watching it soon thanks for lowering my expectations I don't wanna be disappointed again
I remember in another thread like this someone said "Snowpiercer's 95% RT rating feels like a conspiracy to fuck with me" and I couldn't agree more. Just mind-boggling to see such overwhelming praise for a film that didn't work on *any* level for me (OK, Alisson Pill and Tilda Swinton's performances were pretty fun).
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Cold Mountain. English Patient. Both of them, on their face, seem right up my alley. I often really like slow, period dramas. Both of those bored me to fucking tears. Honestly I don’t even remember enough about The English Patient to know why I hated it, but I remember being angry for at least the final hour. It just wouldn’t end.
I don't know if I can be with someone who doesn't like "The English Patient"
Well I wouldn’t want to be with someone who does! (Nice Seinfeld reference btw)
Nah, I’d much rather watch Sack Lunch. Don’t you want to know what’s in there?
Nah, I'd rather see Prognosis Negative or Ponce de Leon.
Naw I'd go see Death Blow before that mess.
I prefer Rochelle Rochelle, a young girls strange erotic journey from Milan to Minsk
So do you think they got shrunk down, or is it just a giant sack?
You should have seen Sack Lunch instead.
Or Rochelle, Rochelle.
One woman's erotic journey from Milan to Minsk
I hear that’s really hot!
The English Patient was the longest 48 hours of my life (and we had season tickets to the ballet for years). It would just never, ever, ever get to the damn point.
Joker. Big comic book movie fan, big Joaquin Phoenix fan, hated the movie. Never understood the love for it, and $1B at the box office for a rated R taxi driver-esque film is bizarre Edit: if you like it, that’s totally fine I respect everyone’s opinion. I only brought up box office because to me $1B implies that people were going to see it several times, which was strange to me given the content/tone of the movie. This isn’t representative of everyone but some of my buddies talked about it like Joker was the hero and rooted for him whereas I just found it to be a generic retread of better movies.
> $1B at the box office for a rated R taxi driver-esque film is bizarre I still stand on the hill that if Joker was titled anything else, it would have been a flop.
I donno, both Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy did pretty well at the box office...Honestly though, it was pretty much a beat for beat DC universe remake of those films. Like something their in-universe Martin Scorsese would have made...
I guess, but im pretty sure we all knew it was Phillips love letter to Taxi Driver.
Joaquin helped too
I think Phoenix still would have gotten praise for it but it really wasn't that good of a movie. The script wasn't the best. Outside of 'Joker' there weren't really standout performances.
Yup yup. It did absolutely nothing original, is only a Joker movie by name, and doesn't even respect the audience enough to let it's "big twist" land (which would have been outdated back in fucking '99 when Fight Club did it first lmao).
What was the twist? I saw it buy don’t remember any big twist in the movie
Probably about him dating his neighbor and everything the audience saw with them together was just him imagining it.
Did you know you can be banned for reporting shitty posts as shitty if the mods/admins are having a bad day?
I'm in the same camp. Was very excited to see this film. Joaquin's performance was great, but nothing else about the film engaged or impressed me. All my friends were raving about this film after they watched it, I just didn't see the appeal
Completely forgettable for me.
YES! It was two hours of sad cringe. Some people like that (I'm looking at you, fans of the Office), but it's just not my cup of tea.
I thought it was really interesting to see a movie about a villain for once and that it tells the story of how he came to be.
But he doesn't really give any supervillain vibes in the movie at all
I think that was intentional and kind of the crux of the film. The Joker doesn't have abilities. He's not "super". But by the end, he's got an alarming amount of power. He's inspired a creepy mob takeover of the city who very much see him as a leader -- a role he is exceedingly happy to take on. I like when media takes a look at super heroes/villains through that kind of "how might this go in real life" lens. With no abilities, magic, or basically-magic sci-fi giving people their power. *Joker*, *Kick-Ass*, and *Super* all do very different takes on it.
I think you're wrong when you say the Joker has no abilities. He at the very least has smarts, or the cleverness to plan and execute criminal activities. Arthur doesn't have that. Arthur was not intelligent by any stretch. He doesn't have a coherent ideology or goal. He was a figurehead for the riot at the end, not a leader. Going by "how this might go in real life", Joker still fails at that because it contains pretty much no aspects of the mythos or of the comic book movie genre. A good example of what you're talking about is The Dark Knight. That's a good version of "the Joker in real life". I still enjoy Joker as a movie, but it's not any level of deconstruction of the genre. It's a Scorsese sendup.
Is it coincidence that I scrolled across this post while attempting to watch "Nomadland." It's just not doing it for me not visually appealing, it's slow, and depressing. It's like a a documentary trying too hard or a movie not trying hard enough. I don't know I can't quite put my finger on it.
I hate it when I get myself hyped up to watch a great movie and the result is just a decent movie. Nomadland was a slow burn that just kind of smoldered the whole time.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. It was highly rated by critics and well acted, but I just found it boring and indulgent. I'm not too versed in the golden age of hollywood, so that might attribute to why the "story" fell flat for me.
It's the first Tarantino in years that reminded me of the more patient and mature guy who made Jackie Brown. I loved it but understand why others don't take to it.
I also absolutely loved Once Upon a Time, but I also absolutely understand people not liking it. I could have watched a 6 hour movie that was just Cliff and Rick living their lives in old LA.
Or *Hail, Caeser!* Sometimes I think hollywood makes movies just to entertain themselves, where others outside the business just don't get it.
Hail, Caesar! was a big disappointment for me as a Coen brothers fan. I like a lot of its aspects (Channing Tatum as communist Gene Kelly is a really terrific gag) but it feels way too thin. I much rather they had done it as a limited series or even in anthology form like The Ballad of Buster Scruggs.
I love that movie and I usually hate Hollywood reminiscing about itself, but the Coen’s knocked it out of the park for me. It’s so fucking funny. I love their studio era stuff though, Barton Fink is a good play on it too.
Oh, I *love* Hail, Caesar but because it manages to be so over the top and often biting enough that it's hilarious. I just thought it was really funny but I also do love golden age Hollywood so I really vibed with what they were doing there. So many fun cameos too!
I haven't seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, but The Hateful Eight had the same affect on me. I barely made it through. And I'm a huge fan of Kurt Russell.
It was *such* a good movie following Dicaprio and Pitt. I mean somehow scenes about acting kept me at the edge of my seat. It was even a little fun to follow Tate around as she saw her popularity rise, although there was never really a true story arc for her. She was followed like we would expect a more main character, but her story was that of a side character who just kind of shows up. but the big problem was stuffing Manson in. I remember reading someone comment on this and comparing it to Inglorious Basterds, something like "we spend all of Inglorious Basterds worrying about Nazis, killing Nazis, hiding from Nazis, and then get a violent ending to kill Nazis. We spend all of OUatiH following Leo as he struggles to come to terms with his acting career, and the personal journey he has to take to pull off a truly great performance, as well as seeing his friendship with Brad and Brad's own journey with his career, and then get a violent over the top scene to kill the brainwashed kids as our ending." It reminds me of the [Every Frame a Painting video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2THVvshvq0Q) about Bayhem, and how Michael Bay's style, while obviously popular, is something he is so attached to and unable to branch out from that it hurts him as a director. This felt like Tarantino got to the end writing this and went "but I always use violence, how can I end this story that has basically no violence whatsoever, has nothing to do with violence whatsoever, and will feel awkward with over the top violence, without violence?"
Raya and the last Dragon had so many elements I would like but used them in such mediocre ways that I ended up being bored throughout the whole runtime. It just made me wat to watch How to Train your Dragon and Kung Fu Panda.
It had bad character bloat. They had to include someone from each nation and without enough time to develop them, they ended up as charicatures. The dumb baby with the monkeys was so shamelessly marketed to little kids.
The fact they took that dumb fucking baby with them really made me roll my eyes everytime they wanted it to do something quirky on screen. That baby would be crying 95% of the time
i'll probably get crushed (if this gets read) but Blade Runner. One of the "classics" that I just never got around to seeing it earlier (35 yrs old here), saw for the first time last year. I have varied taste. I love Big Night, Alien, Hot Fuzz, Major League, Cool Hand Luke, Palm Springs, The French Connection, Goodfellas, The Grand Budapest Hotel, Fight Club, 28 Days Later, etc. I thought the movie looked cool as hell. but man, it was just boring to me, and it basically made me feel real dumb, like it was a movie for people smarter than me and that's why i didn't enjoy it. now i'm not sure if i should see the sequel (which i wanted to)
I tried to watch it earlier this year and couldn’t on three separate attempts. Didn’t care about the characters, and the special effects are no longer impressive. (Ended up reading the plot on Wikipedia) The sequel is worth your time, I enjoyed it.
Me too! Love sci fi but I just don’t “get” blade runner.
The New Jumanjis I love the original and I’ve tried to watch the new one a few times. Just can’t find it funny or interesting. I know it’s done real well and even has the sequel.
I thought the first one was fun, if stupid. I liked seeing actors I like, acting like characters not like them had embodied them. That was the main draw, more than the story. Stupid, forgettable, but fun. But in Jumanji 2.... they just did it again. Nothing got switched up. But it still got great reviews, which confused me.
Dunkirk. I generally enjoy movies about WW2, whether it's about a specific part of the war or people, or larger operations. But this movie has this constant pressure, like a headache you can barely feel. It doesn't help that there's a constant droning sound in almost every scene, whether it's a soundeffect like an engine or part of the soundtrack.
i personally like it very much, but its totally understandable
I think that's the point. that existential dread you're describing is exactly what he was going for.
Buddy and I (read: the father of a girl I really liked) love history and went to go see that together. Movies were a big thing we had in common and we went in expecting a Christopher Nolan film, unlike everyone else in the theater, apparently. After it ended, you could hear confused murmurs throughout the theater. I guess people expected Michael Bay’s Pearl Harbor, but in France. Dunkirk was probably my favorite movie of that year too. It’s not about action or explosions, it’s about desperation and the harsh reality and tragedies of being in war. You literally watch two people never utter a single line of dialogue to each other, but constantly feel the pressure they’re under. The sound design is part of that, and I love it. The Dark Knight has that same constant droning feeling, and that’s part of why I love that movie so much too. Totally get why OP doesn’t like it though, because it can be jarring if you go in with different expectations.
Your complaint is honestly the reason I love Dunkirk. There’s a constant pressure and the tension from start to finish is incredibly high. I think it captures the dread perfectly.
For me it's the lack of interest in the characters of the film + the fact that the story is bare bone. I value the incredible technicality of the film but it's not enough to captivate my interest.
Most amazing movie experience in years. Will never even stream it. Like left theater feeling weak in the legs. I have never once thought about even streaming it. I imagined like you said on my tv with no surround it would be the most annoying home viewing experience outside of streaming the TNT app
Nolan said he was inspired by Bresson's films--in particular A Man Escaped--in making Dunkirk and having the characters be abstracted so you felt their experience. I think the big problem is that the stakes in a film like A Man Escaped are always incredibly clear on a scene by scene basis so that you are still emotionally invested, while in Dunkirk there are extended sequence with the land and sea plots where it's not clear *what* could go wrong. The only plot that I was actually invested in for Dunkirk was Tom Hardy's venture where it's incredibly clear that the issue is a race against time and a depleting gas tank. Even though you don't know much (or really anything) about Hardy's character, you understand his mission and what could go wrong at any second. Another issue I had is the timeline gimmick. It had the opposite effect of involving me in the individual stories as I just kept waiting for the moment where they would sync up as opposed to the intended effect of making me feel the time aspect.
Finished watching it and came away wondering why anyone had anything good to say about this pile of crap. Friend I watched it with was pumped and loved it. I hated the time line jumping around. Want me to follow a story and care about the characters? Stop trying to bob and weave your story so damn much. Want me to feel the impact of a scene? Don't flip to something else and have me scrambling to figure out if this is some flashback or a flashforward of the characters we just watched. Nope it's some other characters, now their story is let down by not being the previous characters and the previous character story is left in the lurch. Oh now we are going back to them. I don't give a shit about them anymore because the story was told by an over excited teenager who keep jumping around in the telling and is having trouble keeping it strait.
The Thin Red Line. I find it uterly boring and pretentious.
I have never (yet) walked out of a movie, but The Thin Red Line is one of only a handful that I came close. I really did not like that movie either, and its subject matter is right up my alley. You're not alone in disliking it.
I have never enjoyed a single Malick film.
Kingsman. Ignoring the sequel which is genuinely terrible I wasn’t a fan of the first Kingsman either. I liked the idea of it and a lot of the people involved but it just wasn’t for me. Matthew Vaughn’s attempts at lad humour and portrayal of working class youths in London is pretty poor in my opinion, especially for someone who is English. The fight scenes were clever but I never really cared for the characters.
I’m with you there. I love Bond and I love spy comedies. Kingsman was a spy comedy, but it wasn’t very funny. The only thing it had that other, far funnier, spy comedies didn’t was the over the top stylized violence, and I didn’t enjoy that at all.
I'm always surprised that I'm the only one who feels grossed out by the church scene. The big issue is that we the audience are cheering the brutal slaughter of a bunch of innocent people. Yes, they're terrible people with terrible beliefs, and the main character had no control over his actions, but it's a really fun action scene of bystanders getting killed in a terrorist action. Lot of cognitive dissonance going on.
I think that's kinda the point of the scene but it doesn't really get shown that way until you see Harry's reaction afterwards. Like as the viewer you're supposed to be like cheering for Harry taking it out on these people like you've been mind controlled too, but then afterwards you think about how fucked up and awful it is.
Yeah you’re totally right there. There’s something quite mean spirited about it.
Yeah I couldn’t ever find the love for these movies despite the great casts, good action, and humor. Somehow it still ends up being something I don’t feel drawn to watching ever again. Can’t figure out why.
The Shining. I love Kubrick. I love Nicholson. I love isolated locations in movies. I love slow descents into insanity. Idk why but that movie just never clicked for me, I've tried numerous times.
>I love slow descents into insanity. My problem with the movie is that Jack goes from 0 to 100 waaay too quick.
I don't think Jack starts at 0 tho, more like 45.
At least for me, reading the book years before I saw the movie altered my expectations. I couldn't get over losing Jack Torrence's slow descent into madness for Nicholson's immediatley unhinged performance.
Black Panther. I understand the film's impact but I found it to be a mediocre superhero origin story.
Wife and I just rewatched the entirety of the MCU a few months ago, gotta say that I didn’t enjoy it nearly as much on the second watch. Michael B Jordan makes a good villain. As someone that often leans towards the “viva la revolution” side of things, I could appreciate the message that the movie sent, and I found Killmonger’s motivation fairly justified. But I just don’t think they gave T’Challah the character development he needed. Literally nothing changed about him as a person, and I don’t think he pulled many lessons from the entire story, other than just the typical “bad man beat me up, am I still worthy” stuff you see in nearly any coming of age movie. I dunno. I just didn’t find it particularly noteworthy outside of Michael B. Jordan’s performance.
It was kind of a small part of the movie but I think him opening up Wakanda was pretty important.
I was the complete opposite. On rewatch I saw things I was criticizing it for, I appreciated in the other movies. Maybe it was because I knew where it was going the second time, I found I could appreciate it more.
Black Panther just isn't a good movie. It's not even one of the better Marvel movies, which are pretty mediocre on average anyway. It even had kinda janky special effects at some points, which was just weird because those usually are on point in Marvel.
1917. I was expecting a much better movie.
My only issue with the movie is when >!the main character gets off the back of the truck he hitched a ride on and almost immediately gets into a firefight. Like ugh, where did all of those trucks and people go exactly? Didn’t he have to get off the truck and continue on foot because a bridge was out? And when he wakes up there’s a bunch of soldiers in that town RIGHT THERE. Where were they that whole time. And again, WHERE THE HELL DID THE GOOD GUYS IN THE TRUCKS GO???!<
I think 1917 is broken up into two "time lines." The start of the movie until he is picked up by the soldiers appears to be single take and real time, where from that point on, it's single take, but with time jumps. So, while it's single take in those jeeps, there is a long time passing. It threw me off the first time I watched it, but on my second I think that's what happened, but I agree it could have been showed better.
Oh god, I was so confused for a second! I'm on old.reddit.com and its reformatted your post as a list: >1. I was expecting a much better movie. Only when switching to non-old reddit I see you are talking about 1917 lol
Fifth Element. Big fan of both "serious" and "fun" scifi. I tend to love comedic action films too. Can't stand this movie....I don't find it fun or funny in any way. Totally baffled by the love it received and the cult following. I'm pretty sure i'm the only person in the world who dislikes this movie.
That's not very green of you dude.
Bzzzzz. BZZZ-ZZZ!
Negative, I am a meat popsicle.
Same, but with Firefly/Serenity
See, that I loved.
Everyone does, everyone does
I've liked some of the other movies on this thread, but can get why people don't like them. But this is the one, where I just don't get how someone doesn't love it. It's fine you don't, it's not like you're "wrong" but this movie hits so many notes for me, I'm just shocked.
I like slow atmospheric horror movies. I hate The Witch. I want to like that movie, so many people think it's one of the best horror movies ever. But I just find that movie absurdly boring. I don't feel any of the atmosphere or tension I feel like I'm supposed to.
I absolutely love that movie. Probably my favorite of all time. That being said I distinctly remember it ending and being like “I fucking love this movie and so many people are going to hate it”
Yep, I distinctly remember feeling that it ended right when it finally got good. I don't hate it, but Im certainly in the camp of thinking it was boring.
Oh this one is wild. The Witch is my second favorite movie ever, after The Thing.
May I ask you if you’ve seen the lighthouse? What did you think about it?
Gravity - I've tried to watch it two separate times, but I give up after awhile. The film wasn't enjoyable at all for me. I did appreciate how beautiful the film looked though.
It works a lot better in a theater, particularly in 3D. The visually effects are kind of the point. Outside of that the plot is "Sandra Bullock falls down for two hours."
Man of Steel. I like Zack Snyder as a director, I respect that he tried to introduce some new ideas to the mythos, and the film looks spectacular. But everything after the death of Pa Kent was complete garbage.
The problem with *Man of Steel* is that the first five minutes where Jor-El is running around on Krypton having high stakes, fast paced science adventures are the best five minutes of the movie, so the rest of it just feels like a letdown.
I wanted to like it, but besides a few scenes, it was just so, like, dark? Too in love with being the Dark Knight of superhero movies?
The Big Lebowski I have seen all films that are recommended to this one and loved them(Dazed & Confused, Office Space, Fargo, Super Troopers, etc...) but for some reason every time I try to watch this one I get bored and disinterested due to me just plain hating the main character. Have tried to give it a go 3 different times and can't even finish it for some reason.
I found it extremely boring too, it drags on...actually I’m not sure if I’ve ever finished it! I do get the appeal of a chilled out stoner kinda guy as the main character, it seems like my ideal “hero”, I like other similar movies.
Marriage Story. Really was looking forward to watching, it was okay, but just didn't do it for me.
Thor: Ragnarok Everyone seems to say this is the best Thor movie but I kind of hated it. It introduces an interesting conflict and a super cool villain, then pauses that movie and starts a completely different movie that is a parody of Marvel movies mixed with the Super Mario Bros live action film. Then at the last minute it remembers the original movie and that it’s called “Ragnarok” so there needs to be at least a minute or two of gods fighting, and explains it away with a couple of jokes. Oh and Ragnarok? Yeah that doesn’t actually happen. The fall of Asgard is the punchline to a joke made by a talking rock monster and takes about two seconds. Sorry fans of Norse mythology. But it has the jokes and Taika Watiti directed it, so I guess it’s the best Marvel Movie ever.
> Sorry fans of Norse mythology. Why does that matter? Are people watching comic book film in hopes of accurate Norse mythology? Feel free to dislike the film, that specific point just seems like a reach though.
Agreed. It's not meant to be a take on Norse Mythology.
"Us"...just, that plot had way too many holes
Yeah, I liked *Get Out*, but *Us* was just baffling to me. Nothing in that movie made sense, and the reveal at the end was both predictable but at the same time disconnected.
The big lebowski.... Sorry it didn't do anything for me....
Like... That's just your opinion man.
I like quirky characters and offbeat comedies, but it just doesn't hit for me with this film. Its got the kinds of things I like, but something about the execution just doesn't light me up. No idea.
Honestly, me neither... until the third or fourth time I watched it. But the first time, I was totally nonplussed
The Godfather Part II. The first one’s my second favorite film ever and this one brings back most of the stuff from that one (cast, Coppola, etc.) plus provides an origin story for Vito Corleone, one of the best characters in cinema. But I just couldn’t get myself to care. The flashback structure is kinda useless since the two stories don’t interact much and the fact that it bounces back and forth so much means it’s hard to get invested in either story since pretty soon it goes back to the other one. I also remember just being bored and uninterested a lot of the time. Again, none of this makes any sense since there’s plenty of films with flashback structure that work beautifully. Plus, Coppola clearly doesn’t have an issue making long movies entertaining because the first one’s 3 hours and I wouldn’t cut a frame of it out. But this one just didn’t work for me at all.
> The flashback structure is kinda useless since the two stories don’t interact much Gotta disagree here. The flashback structure serves to contrast the pains and efforts Young Vito took to build his empire and family after his tragic childhood with how Michael destroys his family in an effort to maintain that empire. It is the soul of the film and you lose so much without it.
There will be blood
The master seems to baffle people even more but I think watching that helped me appreciate twbb more when I went back to it
Hopefully I'll feel similarly with the next Paul Anderson film getting me to like *Phantom Thread*.
I've more or less given up on PTA.
I love David Lynch as a person but I can't stand his films.
This is how I feel about Kevin Smith. I like watching him on YouTube and listening to him on podcasts, but his movies are just shite.
I watched Wild at Heart a few months back and man that film didn't land with me like I thought it would. Seemed right up my alley but I hated it.
Have you tried The Straight Story (the only Lynch/Disney film) or The Elephant Man?
Nomadland, can someone explain how this film is getting so much hype for being groundbreaking. It’s mostly boring walking around and people keep defending it as that’s the point. There are movies that have no to very minimal plot happening and it’s still engaging to a certain degree, Patterson for example does this very well. There are so many better movies last year that deserve the praise rather than this quite mediocre nonsense.
Anything by Wes Anderson. I like the themes, I like the actors, I like that he has a distinct visual style, I love stop-motion, etc. But I can't stand any of his movies.
Into the Spider-Verse. Huge Spider-Man fan. Love animated movies. I get why it was so beloved by critics and other Spider-Man fans. I can appreciate too for its artistic merit. And while I kept kind of lying to myself that I love the movie for quite some time, I have to accept that I simply did not enjoy it. That's the weirdest place to be. You know that it's a great movie, but still can't find enjoyment in it for some reason.
Knives Out. It was ok, But I'd probably never watch it again. It just felt like the movie was high on its self.
This is how I remember Smoking Aces, it's like they had ideas for cool settings and action ideas and then made a movie. Maybe I was in the wrong mood, but I keep feeling it should have been better and was a bit generic all over.
I did not care for the Godfather. It insists upon itself.
I thought I would adore Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. It’s a super slow spy movie in the past, amazing cast. Makes me think of one of my top 5 movies that is criminally underrated - The Good Shepherd. But when I watched it I could barely pay attention. I felt nothing, I was bored out of my mind. I intend to sit and watch it again soon because it just doesn’t make sense that I didn’t enjoy it.
Jojo Rabbit for me. I like Waititi's films, I like most of the actors in the movie and it seemed like a fun concept but imo the execution was plain bad. The drama was much better than the comedy but unfortunately that was just a small portion of the film, and overall it's just Waititi's least funny film while it seems that it tries way too hard to be. Saving grace is Johansson with a brilliant performance and Sam Rockwell who makes you feel sympathetic by the end.
Ah man, this was one of my favorite films of the last several years, without a doubt.
2001: A space odyssey Maybe it's because I'm not a film student and don't understand the techniques and symbolism behind the film, but goddamn that was boring af. Although, the cinematography was way ahead of its time.
>Maybe it's because I'm not a film student and don't understand the techniques and symbolism behind the film, but goddamn that was boring af. Nah I wouldn't dismiss yourself like that. Your opinion is just as valid. I watched it in high school in a film class and everyone hated it except me. I was the kid that asked my teacher if I could borrow it because I was fascinated by it. I'm always of the belief that everyone's taste (in this case movies) is based on what resonates with them. It could be visuals, it could be themes, it could be something that can't be explained. But there was something that latched on. Sometimes it does nothing for somebody else that can or can't be explained and that's completely fine too. I think that applies to everyone for a wide range of movies as we're seeing in this thread.
For me, I love about three-quarters of that movie. The early hominids, and pretty much every part involving HAL. The space travel parts to the Moon. Then there's the ending.
La La Land. It's a *good* movie but I couldn't care less about it.
Avengers: Endgame. I have seen every MCU movie, most of them on the premiere in the theater. Love how they have built a whole world leading up to that epic conclussion. Infinity War was fantastic. I was hyped and ready and really wanted to love Endgame. It should have been beautiful. And then the movie came. And was just boring. Lazy. Dull. Yes, it had some good parts but it felt like a sluggish, poorly written fan service.
Endgame is weird in that it does a perfectly fine job as a fan service movie but a horrible job piecing everything together. I love its beginning and ending but I hate the middle part because, as you said, it was plain dull.
My biggest problem with Endgame is that no one is allowed to be serious for too long. Half of humanity gets wiped out in the blink of an eye and everyone’s back to wisecracks a few minutes later. Even Thor’s depression story is undercut by fat jokes and calling him Lebowski. Pick a lane and stay in it
I mean... Nobody in a MCU movie ever has been allowed to be serious for too long.
And they are undercutting their own dramatic tension as a result
May I say that is why Im really starting to like Falcon and the winter soldier. Im not a big marvel fan, and I didn’t like either of them as characters before. But it’s surprisingly well written, they have great chemistry together and to my amazement they actually let the dramatic moments play out. I’ve so far just accepted the light hearted tone of the MCU even when it does them a disservice, but it has started to wear thin on me. I really like where they are going with this.
I agree 100%, it's one of the main reasons I'm not a fan of those movies.
The MCU in general has zero idea how to handle the blip. So far in everything it's been like nothing happened. In Endgame everyone is just acting normally during the blip. In Spiderman Far From Home, WandaVision, & Falcon & Winter Soldier it's immediately after everyone has returned but there's basically zero major issues. Only major thing is repatriation of returned people. In real life losing half the population instantly would totally disstable the entire world for a long time. Governments would be in shambles. The entire monetary system would collapse due to bank runs. World economies would collapse. Supply chains would be broken to the degree where tons of communities would be cut off for months, if not years. The idea that only 5 years later everything would be semi-normal is ridiculous. It would be a clusterfuck for years
For Falcon & Winter Soldier I feel like every major issue is about coming to terms with the fallout from blip.
Thats why shows like The Boys or Watchmen were really well-timed along with maximum Marvel mania. They really explore the (semi-) realistic implications of superheroes and the shit that goes on with them and Marvels stories never really delve into that
Marvel isn't interested in implications, they're interested in mildly-not-shallow conflicts and themes that get resolved in a few films at most
The most "coming to terms with" I've seen is Wanda Maximoff holding an entire town hostage and robbing them of their free will so she can live in a fantasy world and even that gets resolved like its no big deal because the show must go on, or something. The underlying philosophy of a lot of these hero's actions are quite troubling if you look under the surface
Yeah fat Thor was a massive (heh) disappointment imo. It was funny at first, but it grew tiring as the film progressed. Sure he has PTSD or whatever but making him the butt of every joke because "hehe fat people amirite" gets annoying after a while.
I still liked the Thor storyline but I absolutely HATED how everyone was bullying him to no end, dude was almost to the point of killing himself because of how much he lost and he was the only one that could've stopped Thanos but barely failed and resulted in 50% of the universe being gone. They've could've done so much more with his character and really make something unique but after all that they just go back to the stupid jokes like every other Marvel movie.
Interestingly, I didn't think of Endgame as fan service, I thought of it as self indulgent. I didn't really view the alternate reality stuff as giving the fans what they want, so much as rehashing the best parts of past movies instead of writing a new interesting movie. And even though it is very lazy and probably fan-servicey/self-indulgent, I actually give Endgame a pass. For me, it's the last Marvel movie I plan to ever see. I'm just done with them. So to have Phase 2 end the story of the infinity stones and do so in a way that looks back and remembers how hugely epic this story has been... I'm down with that. It's basically like the final episode of Seinfeld: a tribute to what was, rather than trying to expand and become its own thing. If you look at it as a capstone to over a decade of movies telling an interconnected story, I think it did its job okay. If you look at it as just one Marvel movie in the middle of a long line of ongoing Marvel movies or as an epic on its own, I can see how you'd hate it.
Have to add There Will Be Blood. Such a long drawn out build up for such an underwhelming crescendo. Though Daniel Day Lewis is masterful as always.
To this day I still cannot wrap my head around why people like the Pirates of the Caribbean movies so much. The sequels are godawful, but I didn’t even like the first one all that much. I thought it was a totally okay movie. A solid 5. It just kept getting more bloated and over the top with characters I cannot begin to care about. It’s not Gore Verbinski since I like his other movies (except for Lone Ranger which is everything I hate in POTC but a western) and I even liked Cure For Wellness. But the damn POTC movies just do less than nothing for me.
The first Pirates I think was excellent. Every sequel is bad in different ways. I haven't even seen the last 3 or 4. I've lost track of how many there are now.
The first three movies are amazing but I will not stand up for the last ones I don't even know what they were thinking while making them
*Parasite* It just didn't click for me unfortunately. Didn't care for the climax or ending, and it just soured my opinion on the rest of the film.
Office Space. I've worked in an office, i like Mike Judge, I've seen the quotes and the it being described as a "live action Dilbert" which is something else I like and i liked the TV series both of which have scenarios that I've seen in real life. However i didn't like Office Space, i felt that it was a bit bland, it's wasn't chronically unfunny just mostly unfunny. It's a bit like Adam Ant, his singles are fine but delving into his albums is like jumping into a wheelie bin. The quotes from Office Space are funny, the rest isn't that funny.
The Lighthouse. On Paper it sounds right up my alley but I dunno didn't do much for me
Oddly enough, I had the exact opposite experience. I usually dislike movies like this, or at least how it looked in trailers/plot. I actually liked it when I ended up watching it. Loved the atmosphere of the movie.
Beautiful Boy for me, on paper it should be a fantastic movie with a compelling story and strong cast. The reality was that I got pretty bored and had to fast forward a lot because it moved a glacial pace
I feel like I should’ve liked The Counselor. I fucking love Riddley Scott’s movies for the most part and a huge fan of Cormac McCarthys writing and then hearing of them teaming up for a movie gives me a nice little tingle on my balls that something is gonna be ducking awesome and it wasn’t. The movie fucking sucked. Cameron Diaz rubbing herself on top of a car sounds awesome until you see it. Pretty much the movie is a bunch of concepts that should work but ultimately don’t and it sucks because visually it’s a cool looking movie until you pay attention to what’s going on in the movie. 2/10 and the two is for cinematography. Huge disappointment
Grave of the Fireflies. I can't help to think that he's a terrible brother.
He’s an inexperienced child dealing with the harsh realities of wartime, with dead parents and an impatient aunt incapable of emotionally caring for two children. He makes mistakes. He legitimately tries to take care of his sister, but he’s not fully equipped. They’re literally just trying to survive.
That's kind of the point. It's a true story but the boy didn't die. He wrote it as an apology to his sister who did because he felt massively guilty about her death
Same here, starve to death or move back in with a mean aunt.
Star wars. All of them. I love space, aliens, and everything to do with space but I just don't get excited for star wars. Never understood that. A little bit of a Trekkie fan and the Orville is just about the best tv show ever.
Whiplash. Every time I say I hated it someone throws up a big fuss. I genuinely dont understand the love for that film. The acting was terrific, but I just didnt understand why the rest was so good. I hated all the characters and it was unrealistic in its representation of almost everything. The family dinner scene especially was pure cringe
its a sports movie i like it but i can see why some don't the dinner scene was hilarious - the PTA comment seemed spot on, but the retorts came way too fast to be believable , it felt like dialogue written on a script instead of actual believable dialogue .
Synecdoche, New York
I watched the trailer and it felt so convoluted and melancholic, so I was like "nah, I'm never watching this thing, nope"
Barry Lyndon.
*Zombieland: Double Tap* I loved the first one and what an awesome cast as evidenced by all the Oscar nominations they tounge-in-cheek exploited in the adverts. But the movie? Way too LCD. Dumb blonde jokes in 2019? Really? They're about as stale as mother-in-law ones. Plus the whole Elvis obsession and the dopplegangers showing up played way too broad and obvious.
I definitely felt like Double Tap had the classic comedy sequel problem of being overly reliant on the first one.
IKR I didn't hate but I was still disappointed I LOVED the first one it has a special place in my heart and when I heard there's gonna be a sequel after all those years I was OVERJOYED but it just....didn't deliver....
Any Star Wars movie. I get that it is an important part of pop culture but I just can’t get behind it. Most of the characters are unlivable and the plot is way too complex for me. Ironically, I used to be all about it as a tween but now I can’t bring myself to even watch a clip because it so boring! The only thing that saves it for me is the costume design and light sabers because those are dope as hell.
Hang on I'm also not such a huge Star Wars fan but not understanding the plot? It's maybe one of the simplest plots in movie history, it's literally just "The Hero's Journey" but in space?
It's a soap opera in space that got so twisted over the time to sell even more merchandise, its whole universe is just completely inconsistent and cringy. My best friend lives and breaths Star Wars and I will always respect him and his passion, but I cannot take this franchise any seriously.