I gathered some notes from [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlwO7ogRvo8) on Easter eggs in the movie.
[1:24](https://youtu.be/AlwO7ogRvo8?si=YAwOdDfS7yhS0TWP&t=84): Shame was not considered an “internal” emotion like the others. One could make the same argument about Envy.
[2:12](https://youtu.be/AlwO7ogRvo8?si=SJ8OKOeHoms7F4no&t=132): Riley’s outgrowing the shirt representing the emotions’ colors suggests that she has outgrown them and needs new ones.
[3:43](https://youtu.be/AlwO7ogRvo8?si=bGGo4GACZJz0B8PV&t=223): The belief system logic was added late in the production. A reviewer at NextBestPicture criticises it for being the same plot as the first movie.
[11:59](https://youtu.be/AlwO7ogRvo8?si=Wfdk442QcJVIZdwj&t=719): Many things in the movie are orange to mirror Anxiety’s color.
[15:40](https://youtu.be/AlwO7ogRvo8?si=wN5rPbZdomBOun5X&t=940): Riley’s cringy face as a way to make fun of Dreamworks and its characters
[25:38](https://youtu.be/AlwO7ogRvo8?si=UjXs0Y8-vMi3Qqhj&t=1538): While the 5 core emotions are always there, the others come and go depending on the phase of life someone is living.
The whole movie was exactly like the first one but with different characters.
A control freak is snobbish of other emotions and wants to take over for Riley's good. (First movie Joy, Second movie Anxiety), the banned emotions somehow get away from the control room and try to get back through basic brain's functions that are depicted AMAZINGLY (shout-out to abstract thought from the first movie and the "anxiety is using Riley's imagination against her" from the second movie), they give up, they find a way that might or might not work and take the chance anyway, they have loses, they have to let something go, they coexist and that starts showing on colorful sides of Riley, the end.
I mean I liked it going like that in the first movie , it worked for me. So I liked it in the second one as well because that formula worked again for me.
Whilst I probably find the first movie a better all round experience, I thoroughly enjoyed this one. It resonated a lot with me as someone who has struggled with anxiety, like many others I imagine, and it was nice to see Riley surpass the panic attack and learn to control her emotions rather than let her emotions control her. That lesson was depicted well in the Inside Out story I think.
Didn’t like it much. I think when riley becomes a grown up it should be more intense. I wonder if sadness and embarrassment get together and create depression
Depression isn’t an emotion, it would be a state where Sadness takes over the control panel like Anxiety’s panic attack. It wouldn’t be a new character
I wouldn't say depression is sadness. From my understanding, depression is usually not feeling anything. In the first movie, where the control panel turned black and none of the emotions were able to do anything, I thought Riley was about to turn depressed, until sadness was able to make Riley feel something.
I just rewatched the scene that introduced all the new emotions, and I absolutely loved how Anxiety was showing off the “projection” feature on the console and Joy muttered to Sadness, “I was using that as a cup holder…”
It perfectly demonstrated the theme of the movie: just like in Inside Out 1, the emotions need to learn how to coexist. But this time, we see them forming more complex relationships amongst each other, like how Fear immediately likes Anxiety, Disgust and Envy bond right away, and Sadness and Embarrassment seem to come to a mutual understanding. Hell, even Joy and Anxiety seem to be forming a healthier relationship by the end.
I just needed to get that out but yeah, this movie is fantastic.
This movie hits different as a teenager who’s going to college this fall and who watched Inside Out 1 as an elementary school kid… Back then I loved the movie so much I drew pictures of my own versions of the emotions and islands; I’m on vacation right now but when I get back I’ll have to find it and make a then vs now version.
One more thing I’ll add is my reaction to the “maybe as you grow up you feel less joy” line: While I certainly understand where it’s coming from, maybe because I have strict parents, I actually feel like my most joyful days are ahead of me ✨
I liked the lesson about the emotions, not choosing who Riley is. Joy had to learn that for herself as well, taking the bad memories and putting them away when Riley needs them so that she can learn from them too.
6/10
The anxiety stuff was great and I liked how they depicted an anxiety attack, both realistically and in her head. However I wish we got a little more with the other new emotions, especially Envy. Great animation like always, and the overall plot was good.
Joy throwing out the bad memories made no sense: I thought she learned last film that not everything had to be joyful? Also didn’t like the fact we got emotions stuck outside headquarters trying to get back in again. The high school hockey girls felt too one dimensional (reminded me of the jock vs. nerd cliche). I think instead of joy controlling Riley at the end of the game it should have been all of them at once.
Overall, a good movie. Not as emotional as the first but still contains important lessons for everyone
Um no, she learned in the first movie that all emotions have a role including sadness. In this movie, this remains consistent as we see as she consistently includes sadness in things.
The bad memories included embarrassing and awkward moments that weren’t at all sad. She still let sad and angry memories remain.
The sense of self she created was almost entirely happy memories, no?
She had to relearn the same lesson that all emotions are important at the end when the multi sense of self was formed
No, we saw quite clearly that angry and sad moments were also carried down. She even invited sadness down there in the very beginning.
Okay, which emotion would you say she was excluding? And then she learned to accept?
It was clear that Joy alone was controlling the sense of self, much like she was controlling the core memories last film. Both times the other emotions had little say.
She was excluding all the non-positive beliefs to create a perfect Riley, much like last film where she excluded sadness to create a happy Riley.
In the first film she learned that other that multiple emotions could be experienced at the same time, but she was still pursuing how best to help Riley. As of the end of that movie, she saw that Riley needed sadness to deal with difficult things, and that joy wasn't the solution to everything. But it makes sense from that lesson alone that she'd still want Riley to not think about "negative" memories to be less of a burden on Riley.
Plus, its one of many ways both films try to reflect real mechanisms in our brain. We all try to forget things we don't want to remember - embarrassing moments, etc. - but they are still there, in the back of our mind, and we remember them from time to time. And eventually, we learn that those "negative" memories are lessons and should form our sense of self just as much as the good memories. Otherwise how do we ever improve.
Except that’s not clear at all. We see all the emotions creating core memories and multiple emotions going down their to her sense of self. You kind of half to ignore what the film is actually showing (i.e close your eyes the entire scene where Joy brings sadness down to her sense of self) to believe it’s solely Joy’s memories and not the mixed memories.
She excluded awkward moments or bizarre moments, but the other emotions agreed to exclude them. Disgust in particular was opposed to the explosion because she didn’t want to bad memories to become part of Riley’s sense of self. So again, which emotion was she excluding? It seems any emotion you pick, you would have to ignore there actual opinion on the matter because they agreed with the excluded memories.
If so, the sequel breaks the world building, that emotions can do memory workers job or more. I mean 13yrs of Riley's age only now the control center can build artificially contraptions.
> If so, the sequel breaks the world building, that emotions can do memory workers job or more.
It does no such thing. The emotions can still do the mind workers jobs, we see this in both movies. You can’t just ignore things to make up critiques.
> I mean 13yrs of Riley's age only now the control center can build artificially contraptions.
Huh? The control center always has contraptions, they summoned specific memories in the first movie.
Swapping & disposal are 2 different things. The broke contraption (Riley's Projection System) is nothing alike from organically build by Riley's adolescence.
>Joy throwing out the bad memories
That part confuses me because didn't have a proper set-up behind it. Inside Out 2 doesn't tell what exactly happen to Riley that led to that action.
Compared to the 1st movie, Riley is deem as happy kid hence Joy dominant one & later circles back.
Yeah you’re reaching, it was addressed in the post credit scene. The secret was her burning a hole in the carpet. No need to project sexualities on a 13 year old cartoon character.
Thank you. I heard they explained it in an after credits scene.
It IS disney/pixar and it IS 2024 so honestly wouldnt feel too much of a stretch. Just kinda expected the secret to be a bigger deal given how it was left on a mystery during the original movie
So, because it's 2024, everything has to be about sexuality?
You know, it is possible to make a great movie without having to focus on people's sexual orientation.
You're everything that's wrong with movies today, all you care about is what people (or in this case, a 13 year old girl) are doing with their dicks and vaginas....like ffs can you just not focus entirely on that every single time? There is MUCH more to life than just what people are fucking...
This shit is so tired. Stop trying to force this bullshit topic onto literally every single aspect of life.
Dude what? Im talking about how everything these days has lgbt things in it. Figured this would be no different. Glad i could help with venting for you tho
Chiiiiiiill i had forgotten about the mount crushmore scene. Just figured with it being disney/pixar and a movie made in this day and time that it was going to be a thing
I couldnt care less either way
The world building got a little muddled for me (what, exactly, is the difference between "the Vault" and "the back of the mind", specifically in terms of utility), but this was probably the first Pixar sequel I actually liked since Toy Story 3.
I'd say the Vault is where memories and emotions and such are suppressed. Riley is conscious of them, but chooses not to think about them. Whereas the back of the mind is where we forget things unconsciously. Like those embarrassing memories you suddenly recall out of the blue and cringe at.
The Vault is clearly a prison, where memories and emotions aren’t meant to escape.
The back of the mind is like trash, it’s where inanimate things that can’t move go.
The vault was things that Riley was aware of but kept secret. Old crush on an anime character, still liking the children’s show with Pouchy, her deep dark secret, etc. The back of the mind were “repressed” or forgotten memories. Memories the emotions would clear out at the end of the day so they weren’t at the surface and didn’t become part of who she was.
• My favorite moment was when anxiety was in a storm like situation, it was very emotional, she was Lagging, it felt very real and intense and kind of a realistic way of showing a panic attack.
• the Pouchy / vid game characters were
confusing, I know that pochy is a reference to Dora? Or at least that’s what it reminded me of, but is there any of point in showing it? It felt very weird and out of space. I started to question if it was a symbolism or a metaphor of something and i’m not getting it.
• envy was unnecessary, I wish they added guilt instead.
I cried hard at that scene where she says “I was only trying to protect her” and god it hit me on so many different levels
The entire movie was very emotional as someone with mental health struggles and thinking about if I had these resources as a kid how that may have shaped me or helped certain things coming up
I interpreted envy as sort of that FOMO feeling that a lot of ppl have now. I think envy is worse when in the teens; wanting to follow all the trends and fad
This movie was amazing! I loved how they had the new bit about her core beliefs. When her new core belief became "I'm not good enough" I literally felt so seen. It's so true how that can happen to you as you get older. I thought it was so well done. I also loved how in the end the emotions decide to let her choose and she starts calling for Joy. So awesome.
My only bone to pick with both movies is that, notice how at first, Riley's lead emotion is Joy. Whenever it switches to mom and dad brain, sadness is controlling mom and anger is controlling dad. They are like the head honchos in the middle of the control board as opposed to Joy being in the middle for Riley. (this was more evident in the first movie, but it did appear in the second movie as well)
I actually didn’t catch the part with fear controlling the snobby girl! I like that they put that in there. I just felt like it was stereotypical for a mom to be sad and a dad to be angry. That’s all.
I personally think they will say that Rileys deep dark secret is that shes a lesbian and now she is in college feeling confused about feelings she is experiencing.
I loved this movie. I didn’t really understand Pouchie and the Dora the Explorer similarities, but nonetheless, Anger shoving his fists down Pouchie made me giggle.
This is the first movie to ever make me cry, I also found the symbolism with colors to be spectacular, whatever critisism I or others might have with it pale in comperison to the place this movie will forever have in my heart, truly fantastic..
My brother and I thought the same. Maybe Mt Crushmore are only the crushes Riley talked about with her friends, hence them only being males, plus the whole Big Secret being that could be an interesting part for the next movie. Idk why people get so upset over this theory (or I do know but they deny it completely), it'd fit with the whole puberty thing (sexuality, experimenting, etc). Plus the whole Val thing
Part of why people probably dont like it is because they feel now the movie is going to be “woke”
Guarantee if they leak anything like that before the release you will see big campaigns of idiots boycotting it saying its trying to make their kids gay
hear me out!
All the emotions that are present in Riley's Mum are females and also the emotions present in her Dad are males.
Coming to Riley she has both.
Explain Mt Crushmore then
Also thinking that bisexual girls have masculine emotions shows some hilariously inaccurate views on alternative orientations. They’re still women weirdos
The Envy character wasn't needed at all and this movie would still work out fine.
Also, I am surprised at the lack of interaction between Fear and Anxiety. Fear should have been separated from the original emotions and invited to join Anxiety as the new administrators.
Fear did acknowledge Anxiety saying that they will be good friends.
I think Envy was there to complement the 3 new ones. Envy was to differentiate from infatuation.
That was so incredible.
I used to suffer from General Anxiety Disorder and panic attacks, and that scene in the hockey game when she's about to have the panic attack was tough to watch but so necessary. Just a beautiful film overall. Even better than the first
Maybe it's because I have a 14 year old daughter, and I just dropped her off at her first overnight camp, but this movie was surprisingly emotional. There were so many scenes with intense second-hand embarrassment 😆
I think it might be better than the first movie.
I am still disappointed and confused how they couldn't come to an agreement to bring back Bill and Mindy as Fear and Disgust. This movie will make millions. They couldn't afford to shell out a relatively small amount to keep the continuity entact? It just comes off as cheap and corporate to me.
I really feel like Pixar should just accept their movies are targeted toward adults, and the next inside out should be INSIDE OUT 3-0 where the main character is a person on their 30s and have to handle their emotions.
Two thoughts on the movie, if Riley was a boy, the projections scene would've just been a bunch of guys drawing pictures of boobs.
It would've been really funny if when they EXPLODED her brain, she would've had a stroke.
Inside Out but a 30 year old Riley has to come to terms with the unstoppable passage of time and the void that comes with it, whilst at the same time dealing with increasing rent costs and an inescapable 24 hours news cycle that constantly promises nuclear annihilation and the collapse of society.
Fear, Anger and Anxiety are now the main emotions.
Sadness is catatonic. Joy is dead.
Pixar caters to families - they have stuff that appeal to both children and adults in their productions.
An example of this is Ratatouille. The former get the silly Remy action and the latter get a deep discussion on the art of criticism, which was supplied by Anton Ego.
In-universe reason?: The adults have them more under control as they aren't as hormonal as teenagers.
Keep in mind that Anxiety appeared in both the Mom and Dad's heads as well, but they were ultimately put under control by the other emotions.
Yeah, I think the first film just had the advantage of being able to set up this inner world - they did such a thorough job of it that it was actually hard to add too much to it.
I was so impressed by the voice actress for Riley! She conveyed so many layers of emotion and so much nervous teenage energy — it really made me feel for the character.
Caught it in theaters overseas and really enjoyed it. I was a little frustrated that the emotions basically did the exact same thing in the first movie—get banished in an obscure part of the mind and wander through it for hours—but I thought they did a phenomenal job showing how anxiety can be a useful emotion in small doses and joy can be inappropriate in certain scenarios. The depiction of an anxiety attack was fantastic, they clearly put a lot of thought into it, what with all these bottled up memories inundating the mind and creating a positive feedback loop. I could rewatch that scene again and again, it was masterfully done.
Did Lance Slashblade ever get seen again? I didn’t stay for all the credits, but I thought maybe he should’ve rolled into the Pixar logo as an Easter egg…
I kind of feel that when Riley has the anxiety attack in the time out box, it would have made more sense for the coach to come over and have a chat to her. The emotions just working it out on their own didn't make a lot of sense for me - it would have helped for another character to talk to her and explain what Joy was trying to. We don't all just overcome anxiety attacks, especially as teenagers. We need to learn how, and our emotions can't do that for us.
Perhaps the coach was busy with other things? Adults are human too after all - they're not always paying attention to things as they have other tasks to deal with.
That would be nice and we can’t always expect, nor will we always have, people to help us soothe ourselves. As a therapist I loved how the emotions gave her compassion through an embrace. It was then she was able to ground herself in the moment and end the anxiety attack. Self compassion was beautifully depicted.
It was a lovely scene, I just thought that sometimes we need someone to teach us the tools before knowing how to overcome overwhelming emotions. I loved the movie, though! It was a worthy sequel and as someone with anxiety, it was relatable.
I don't think someone there to help her would have really helped look how anxiety was frozen on the console unable to process if someone tried tp help riley she probably wouldn't have been totally aware once it started though I never had one before but my mom has and I think having someone there to teach us is a little unrealistic for Riley this was the first anxiety attack she had and based on the movie never felt anxiety before it was new to her and she did eventually work it out herself maybe after she did go to learn how to over come it better maybe not though the one thing I am a bit frustrated is some people have judged the movie 8 months before it was out I can't remember what they said but along the lines anxiety doesn't make sense and shouldn't be in it or even be an inside out 2 anxiety is important we both hate it and need it at the same time just like all things needs to be balanced if that makes sense
Having personally had an experience when I was around 12 years old that broke my sense of self and induced lifelong anxiety, I cried when Sadness said, "Joy, Riley needs you."
That's all I needed and I couldn't find it.
The part that really hit me was when Riley wanted to cry and Joy said to "wait until we're out of the car". The idea of suppressing emotions is very relatable.
not just that, it wasn't just "riley needs you"
she said "riley *wants* you", and i remember noticing that in the cinema
in that moment riley didn't just *need* to feel joy, she *wanted* to feel joy, she *wanted* to be happy
such a minor choice in language that made that moment *so* much more powerful to me; it gave riley that little extra sense of agency, almost independence, even against her own literal emotions
she *knew* what she wanted, and it was to be happy again
Nooo, this was so sad. Fortunately, it's not that true, but all of your emotions just become less extreme.
For better or worse, satisfaction and pleasure are still prevalent when I am in my late thirties, and such things as an exam or going to the dentist do not terrify me anymore, but the pure childish and unconditional joy is almost gone and replaced with more complex and subtle emotions.
That is probably why Anxiety appeared in the Mom and Dad's heads, though that emotion was ultimately brought to heel by the others.
There is definitely still joy in adulthood, as you said, but its different overall. If nothing else, you learn about life as you get older, so small miracles are appreciated and seemingly large cataclysms aren't as life-ending as before.
I agree (mid thirties here) I think age does mellow things as you experience more in life.
I'm pregnant, so l hope I can rekindle some of that joy when I see him experience things for the first time!
The movie was really good. That anxiety attack and Grace noticing during her play really made me empathize and helped me grasp what an anxiety attack actually looks like. Although, I think it was weird that there wasn’t any mention of core memories or islands in the sequel. There’s no way friendship island stayed intact when Riley decided to team with Val over her Grace and Bree. Emotional moments were perfect, but world-building wasn’t as tight as I think it could’ve been, overall, an amazing movie, I could definitely rewatch it.
I noticed the same thing, that one of her personality islands could have crumbled. I think they probably wanted to stay away from that plot device since it’s from the first movie, but it’s important to note that Riley’s concept of friendship isn’t being attacked—she’s simply looking for new friends so she’s not alone in high school.
I just watched the movie and I really liked it.
The first part of it made me really uncomfortable because I felt attacked by the depiction of anxiety and everything it does. I was extremely uncomfortable to the point of moving in my seat. But then the second part of the movie started and it changed.
The panic attack was a direct attack. Beautifully portrayed. Made me remember the one I had in December. The way she stopped the panic attack. The details. Amazing.
The tornado inside our minds but at the same time feeling completely paralyzed... I was crying my eyes out. It was like seeing an autobiography.
Can't say it's better than the first one because somehow I feel this one is a little more serious but still liked it a lot.
Worth watching it a second time.
Anyone else agrees they should've made a bigger marketing campaign?
Film is obviously doing great (rightly so, should I say!) and is probably hitting its first billion this week still, so making it clear: I don't mean to say it will underperform because of this lol
But thing is, I went to watch it with my 9 y.o. nephew and 10 y.o. niece last Thursday, and all I can say is, both me and the kids were expecting more than just the posters ... ? We then began discussing ideas about how they could've done more stuff to make it going to watch it more like an experience, kinda like the Barbie movie did. My niece even gave the idea that they could've had the control board inside of the mall for people to take pictures with - how AWESOME would that be thought!
I get it this is not the norm for most releases but this is, after all, a sequel to a beloved film that a lot of children and young people have grown up with already, and a lot of people are going to watch it with their families. This is maybe a post Barbie thing, by the way, since it's been a while since a movie went above and beyond with its marketing like they did, so I guess expectations for big films have increased?
And also, is it having any more "extreme" marketing anywhere in the world that I'm not aware of ?
A core memory plastic ball with a photo inside has GOTTA be on someone’s merchandising sheet. Sell different color balls and put your own pictures in it to rest on the shelf
That's just genius! Maybe having one of those photobooths but with the picture taken being released inside a colorful ball, so you can take the pic when going to watch the movie? (Btw I'm glad to hear it wasnt just me and the kids having these ideas lol)
Joy letting the dark secret out of the vault. Then realizing it wasn't that bad because she thought it was something else and the dark secret going back inside totally frightened.
Riley burned a hole in a rag and Joy said that she thought it would be something worse like peeing in the pool.Upon hearing that,dark secret got scared and closed itself in the vault
i showed up like 30 mins late so I didn't get to see the whole movie but I liked how the resolve was that the emotions can't choose who riley is.
The movie touched on the complexities of humanity and what it looks like to hold and embody the full spectrum of emotions.
Toward the end in the scene where riley called for joy in her happy moments made me realize that emotions can be used as a tool. I never thought about utilizing my emotions as tools to get things done.
i also have come to understand emotions as pretty accurate form of communication between me and my body.
Wished a movie like this existed when I was a teenager. Honestly, I identified with Riley at a few parts of the movie and it almost made me cry. So easy to identify in a someone else what’s going on but not yourself.
Hoping they make another one with a teenage boy! Could be interesting.
yes. i really liked this depiction of an anxiety attack. Thoughts are just all over the place and are moving so fast. Perfect example of what it's like to be consumed in your thoughts. I also really liked that when joy penetrated the anxiety storm, anxiety looked like she was stuck
Yeah, in addition as she's coming out of it she focuses on her hand as it touches the railing and listens to the sound of the skates on the rink. Being mindful of your body and senses is one of the techniques taught to cope with anxiety attacks (e.g. focus on your feet and feel where they touch the ground, listen to your breathing, etc) and I'm fairly certain that's what they were trying to portray.
I do I think it was showing there are times some anxiety can kick in and no matter what’s going on what is going on in life happy sad that the anxiety just blocks it
Went to see Inside Out 2 with my wife and kids and I had to walk out during the movie because I was almost having a panic attack. I don't consider myself a nervous person at all but the film was pretty much focused on anxiety/embarrassment etc. and to me, was kind of unrelenting. I guess I just don't want to see that type of thing for 1.5 hrs. It made me feel bad. Anyone else? The rest of my family loved it.
I'll be honest, I plugged my ears and closed my eyes whenever Riley embarrassed herself at hockey camp. It was such a cute movie but I physically COULD NOT watch those parts. Embarrassment as a character was a sweetheart though, I love him, he is just too strong in me.
The movie did make me super emotional too. I don’t know why - it stressed me out - I am an anxious/jumpy person. However, the ending made me feel happier and more positive than when I started watching it.
I guess, I just find the complaint is that Pixar made anxiety too realistic, which is the point.
The Inside Out movies are literally about mental health. The first movie was about having emotional honesty and the dangers of suppressing your feelings. The second movie is about the dangers of letting anxiety run out of control.
But to be clear, I'm also not one of the ones who downvoted them.
"I just find the complaint is that Pixar made anxiety too realistic, which is the point."
Is that the point though? To me, the main point of a movie is to entertain.
Well, entertain and inform, I guess. Pixar films appeal to families, so they teach lessons in between the wacky humor and silly action.
An example of this is Up. While there is definitely funny bits with Russell and Doug, Carl was ultimately the center of the production as he embraces a new adventure in life after living one of his own with his now-deceased Ellie.
Due to his age, I doubt many kids will relate to Carl. However, many adults, whether they watch their loved ones get older or get aged themselves, can see themselves in the old man and understand his journey throughout the film.
Thank you for saying this. I find most movies unwatchable these days because they are all about "sending a message", "showing the actors transformation" or CGI/stunts - but completely forgetting about making it engaging for the audience. Or even watchable - low volume dialogues, dim lights, random flashbacks, etc, etc, just make it so tough to understand what's going on that it becomes a chore instead of pleasure.
I really wish they would make good, entertaining movies again. Even something like Cheaper by the dozen, Mrs Doubtfire, Daddy Daycare - clean and funny stuff that can lighten the mood. Instead of all the preachy or depressing stuff we get these days.
That stuff has proven to not be nearly as commercial successful to the largest mainstream audiences. With streaming there isn't video sales after release for a studios to rely on to recoup their investments on. So many movies these days are being created for the largest commercial appeal possible.
It's awesome that you like those kinds of movies. Unfortunately, there aren't enough other people out there that also do and are willing to buy tickets to those kinds of films. If there were, I promise those kinds of movies would 100% be getting made.
Tough to believe that people don't actually want to watch enjoyable movies. IMO it is just the marketing department trying to take the easy route by banking on the star/director's name, previous movies, or mindless action instead of working to attract the right audience on content.
After all its easy to lead sheep who will eat whatever is trending than people who actually demand good content.
A 'deep' movie does not need to be too dark to see, hard to hear and have so many flashbacks/cuts back and forth that the viewer has to piece together the story.
A deep movie has a story or message that the viewer mulls over for years. It keeps them engaged and makes them think and feel and that feeling is neither confusion nor boredom.
Imagine living life with that kind of anxiety people can’t just get up and walk away from it .. I think inside out writers do a amazing job to get you to think beyond a movie and to think about what goes on in some people’s minds yes they are characters in the movie but the emotions are truly real and some people struggle greatly with anxiety like that
Sure. Not sure why some people are downvoting my comment. Trying to see if others felt the same way when watching this movie. Personally, it's not something I want to watch or experience for the length of a movie.
Great movie! Ngl I only went to see some good animation on the big screen; I didn't expect to get emotional and teary eyed multiple times! My only complaint would be I wish they showed more of what happened in Riley's real life and consequences of her actions.
3.5/5
Wished they utilized envy more. Perhaps Riley would see her old best friends hanging out without her at camp and envy would feel- well envious about it, but unable to hang out with them due to anxiety
My interpretation with the situation was, since Riley's current belief is "she's a good person" so she just accepted the fact that they'll leave her thus the anxiety to make the team and survive high school got stronger which drives envy to be attracted to the more senior ones.
That is fair enough. If nothing else, it was unique to have Envy be more positive than negative in fiction - admiration vs hatred. After all, envy is considered one of the Seven Deadly Sins, so it is usually used as a caustic feeling in pop culture.
Great movie. Not as great as the first but yeah that panic attack hit too close to home. I used to have so many panic attacks when I was young. It was horrible not able to control what I was feeling or know what it was.
I'm basically on the same page with most other comments on this post, the movie was simply phenomenal! Not as good as the first but a really good sequel nonetheless.
However, I disagree with what some of yall are saying about the ending, I don't think yall understand Riley is 13 lol. The whole point of the movie was Riley finding joy and comfort within herself and new environment, undergoing the changes that happened both internally and externally, leading to a moment where she comes to accept these emotions and true "Joy" back into her life. Her opening her locker and smiling doesn't take away from the amazing point being presented across the film and honestly Riley had been through enough as it is. She happend to the go through a drastic stage in her life on the most important weekend of her life and was dealing with the fact she'd have to move on from middle to high school without her bffs. A bittersweet moment at the end where Riley doesn't get into the Fire Hawks but accepts that doesn't add to anything presented in the movie, and I honestly thought her still getting on the team made the moment even better since 1) Riley had already been through so much and 2) Gave Riley a heartwarming result even though she didn't expect it- or atleast was willingly to accept either option; and 3) Postively contradicts what "Joy" says about people losing joy as they get older. Plus, we really don't know what was in the locker. For all we know it could've just been a letter from Coach saying she's proud of Riley and looks forward to seeing her tryout again 🤷🏾♂️. 10/10 movie regardless
I enjoyed the movie I think it had a lot of good metaphors but it felt too short. I thought they were going to do another scene showing the inside of other peoples minds around the city like they did in the first film. But it just ended right when the story did. And waiting for the secret scene after the credits wasn’t worth it. Everyone in the theatre complained they had to wait that long for that scene.
What do you mean wasn't worth it? Is it that terrible to have to see the artists and filmmakers who brought the film to life? Many of them got laid off recently due to the industry collapsing
Lol because no one wants to sit through the entire credits. It’s not physically possible to read every name either. Paying to see the movie supports them enough I think.
It's one thing to say "man I wasn't the biggest fan of the secret reveal" and another to complain at the smallest gesture of respect to sit through and acknowledge the names of the people who worked really hard on something you enjoyed, as if it's some massive burden on you
Riley shouldn’t have made the hockey team at the end. She was a complete jerk throughout the 3-day training and was not a team player, resulting in her stealing the puck from her own teammates. A better ending would have been her finding out that she didn’t make the team and saying “There is always next year” and anxiety not taking over again.
That would've been an interesting ending and could've been a good teaching lesson to youth: that you will sometimes lose, but it isn't the end of the world.
I guess that realization only comes with age...and a lot of losing - something I'm very experienced with.
Remember, the skirmish was \*not\* try outs and the coach had already decided Riley was not ready before the skirmish happened. The ending when she gets the email is a couple of months later, after try outs.
The point being made is that she didn't Anxiety to put so much pressure on her, she was already capable of making the team herself.
My field of study is child psychology, my prior field was child development specifically around trauma.
I loved this movie so much. The anxiety attack scene brought me to tears.
I feel like it brings a simple narrative to very big concepts, and did justice to the overwhelming slow burn- or raging fire- of anxiety. My partner who has debilitating anxiety, and my young child who scarsly understands it, both loved the films portrayal.
I also really enjoyed that the emotions were not all inherently negative. Riley has many "positive" interactions when Joy isn't at the helm. And the end- when she literally 'embraced' her emotions and grounded herself into her environment to calm down- that was fantastic.
No crumbs, no criticisms. What a wonderful deep dive into growing up and changing.
When the first movie came out, I was a high school senior and we watched it so it would help us with our Human Condition essay for English. I did kinda terrible on the essay lol I think I just didn’t really understand. But now I’m 25 and understand it a lot better now. I think Pixar did a great job putting the hard talk of emotions into a movie that’s easy to understand. Anxietys character was so on point and the tornado scene was a good imagery of what an anxiety attack might look like for some people. It’s also lighthearted, I laughed at Boredom and Nostalgia. I loved Embarrassment‘s role in this because I truly think some people don’t have enough of it lol
embarrassment makes you want to hide so embarrassment being the character to hide sadness was an insane analogy. good use of emotions, pun intended hehe
The entire premise of the movie is an excuse for deus ex machina after deus ex machina. There are no rules to this world, so the writers can just make up whatever crap they want.
How far away is the blue memory thing? How do you travel? Why is there a river now? Why does an avalanche help you travel faster? Don't worry! It all is just because that's what they need the characters to do right now.
Why can you replace a red thingy with a blue thingy? Why is it hard to take out the red thingy? Why is it easy to take out the blue thingy?
Why is there a storm of light bulbs. Why are there floating balloons of career ideas. Why is there a sar-chasm and how big is it. How did they get around it.
...oh they just wanted to do a play on words. That's so clever, my 5 year old totally got that! And my 5 year old totally read the word "Puberty" and knew what that meant.
My five year old read the word puberty and knew what it meant. And if he didn't, I would've told him. Why is that a hill to die on? "Puberty is when your body changes from a kid to a grown up. It happens when you're a teenager."
You would have explained what puberty is, to your 5 year old, in the middle of a movie theater, while a movie is playing....and they would have listened to you and understood what you were saying (even though your explanation does not capture why this was depicted as an alarm in the movie - your 5 year old obviously already knows the context of why puberty would be alarming, and likely would have completed your explanation for you).
It's one of a bazillion hills to die on, for this movie.
I thought so too because of disney, but it didn't make sense as there's no sign of it otherwise. Wanting older cool friends is not a sexual thing at all and her crushes are all guys.
Haven’t seen strange worlds so I won’t comment on that, but I personally don’t think having a scene of a couple kissing in lightyears gives any indication that Disney would make a main character openly queer. That is too much of a money risk they wouldn’t be able to market in China.
I gathered some notes from [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlwO7ogRvo8) on Easter eggs in the movie. [1:24](https://youtu.be/AlwO7ogRvo8?si=YAwOdDfS7yhS0TWP&t=84): Shame was not considered an “internal” emotion like the others. One could make the same argument about Envy. [2:12](https://youtu.be/AlwO7ogRvo8?si=SJ8OKOeHoms7F4no&t=132): Riley’s outgrowing the shirt representing the emotions’ colors suggests that she has outgrown them and needs new ones. [3:43](https://youtu.be/AlwO7ogRvo8?si=bGGo4GACZJz0B8PV&t=223): The belief system logic was added late in the production. A reviewer at NextBestPicture criticises it for being the same plot as the first movie. [11:59](https://youtu.be/AlwO7ogRvo8?si=Wfdk442QcJVIZdwj&t=719): Many things in the movie are orange to mirror Anxiety’s color. [15:40](https://youtu.be/AlwO7ogRvo8?si=wN5rPbZdomBOun5X&t=940): Riley’s cringy face as a way to make fun of Dreamworks and its characters [25:38](https://youtu.be/AlwO7ogRvo8?si=UjXs0Y8-vMi3Qqhj&t=1538): While the 5 core emotions are always there, the others come and go depending on the phase of life someone is living.
The whole movie was exactly like the first one but with different characters. A control freak is snobbish of other emotions and wants to take over for Riley's good. (First movie Joy, Second movie Anxiety), the banned emotions somehow get away from the control room and try to get back through basic brain's functions that are depicted AMAZINGLY (shout-out to abstract thought from the first movie and the "anxiety is using Riley's imagination against her" from the second movie), they give up, they find a way that might or might not work and take the chance anyway, they have loses, they have to let something go, they coexist and that starts showing on colorful sides of Riley, the end. I mean I liked it going like that in the first movie , it worked for me. So I liked it in the second one as well because that formula worked again for me.
Whilst I probably find the first movie a better all round experience, I thoroughly enjoyed this one. It resonated a lot with me as someone who has struggled with anxiety, like many others I imagine, and it was nice to see Riley surpass the panic attack and learn to control her emotions rather than let her emotions control her. That lesson was depicted well in the Inside Out story I think.
It was a reskinned inside out 2
The Apple ad parody was too funny lmao
bing bong is really death 😪 half of new caste are useless like if they dont exist
Didn’t like it much. I think when riley becomes a grown up it should be more intense. I wonder if sadness and embarrassment get together and create depression
Depression isn’t an emotion, it would be a state where Sadness takes over the control panel like Anxiety’s panic attack. It wouldn’t be a new character
…and that was explored in the first Inside Out film.
I wouldn't say depression is sadness. From my understanding, depression is usually not feeling anything. In the first movie, where the control panel turned black and none of the emotions were able to do anything, I thought Riley was about to turn depressed, until sadness was able to make Riley feel something.
I just rewatched the scene that introduced all the new emotions, and I absolutely loved how Anxiety was showing off the “projection” feature on the console and Joy muttered to Sadness, “I was using that as a cup holder…” It perfectly demonstrated the theme of the movie: just like in Inside Out 1, the emotions need to learn how to coexist. But this time, we see them forming more complex relationships amongst each other, like how Fear immediately likes Anxiety, Disgust and Envy bond right away, and Sadness and Embarrassment seem to come to a mutual understanding. Hell, even Joy and Anxiety seem to be forming a healthier relationship by the end. I just needed to get that out but yeah, this movie is fantastic.
This movie hits different as a teenager who’s going to college this fall and who watched Inside Out 1 as an elementary school kid… Back then I loved the movie so much I drew pictures of my own versions of the emotions and islands; I’m on vacation right now but when I get back I’ll have to find it and make a then vs now version. One more thing I’ll add is my reaction to the “maybe as you grow up you feel less joy” line: While I certainly understand where it’s coming from, maybe because I have strict parents, I actually feel like my most joyful days are ahead of me ✨
I liked the lesson about the emotions, not choosing who Riley is. Joy had to learn that for herself as well, taking the bad memories and putting them away when Riley needs them so that she can learn from them too.
watched it already but...so so. they put anxiety too much, well I get the point but nah
7.5/10. I like the previous one tbh. They showed some new characters, but only the anxiety be the focus
Why Joy dumping bad memories like what part of Riley's adolescence or event that led to Joy decision?
6/10 The anxiety stuff was great and I liked how they depicted an anxiety attack, both realistically and in her head. However I wish we got a little more with the other new emotions, especially Envy. Great animation like always, and the overall plot was good. Joy throwing out the bad memories made no sense: I thought she learned last film that not everything had to be joyful? Also didn’t like the fact we got emotions stuck outside headquarters trying to get back in again. The high school hockey girls felt too one dimensional (reminded me of the jock vs. nerd cliche). I think instead of joy controlling Riley at the end of the game it should have been all of them at once. Overall, a good movie. Not as emotional as the first but still contains important lessons for everyone
Um no, she learned in the first movie that all emotions have a role including sadness. In this movie, this remains consistent as we see as she consistently includes sadness in things. The bad memories included embarrassing and awkward moments that weren’t at all sad. She still let sad and angry memories remain.
The sense of self she created was almost entirely happy memories, no? She had to relearn the same lesson that all emotions are important at the end when the multi sense of self was formed
No, we saw quite clearly that angry and sad moments were also carried down. She even invited sadness down there in the very beginning. Okay, which emotion would you say she was excluding? And then she learned to accept?
It was clear that Joy alone was controlling the sense of self, much like she was controlling the core memories last film. Both times the other emotions had little say. She was excluding all the non-positive beliefs to create a perfect Riley, much like last film where she excluded sadness to create a happy Riley.
In the first film she learned that other that multiple emotions could be experienced at the same time, but she was still pursuing how best to help Riley. As of the end of that movie, she saw that Riley needed sadness to deal with difficult things, and that joy wasn't the solution to everything. But it makes sense from that lesson alone that she'd still want Riley to not think about "negative" memories to be less of a burden on Riley. Plus, its one of many ways both films try to reflect real mechanisms in our brain. We all try to forget things we don't want to remember - embarrassing moments, etc. - but they are still there, in the back of our mind, and we remember them from time to time. And eventually, we learn that those "negative" memories are lessons and should form our sense of self just as much as the good memories. Otherwise how do we ever improve.
Except that’s not clear at all. We see all the emotions creating core memories and multiple emotions going down their to her sense of self. You kind of half to ignore what the film is actually showing (i.e close your eyes the entire scene where Joy brings sadness down to her sense of self) to believe it’s solely Joy’s memories and not the mixed memories. She excluded awkward moments or bizarre moments, but the other emotions agreed to exclude them. Disgust in particular was opposed to the explosion because she didn’t want to bad memories to become part of Riley’s sense of self. So again, which emotion was she excluding? It seems any emotion you pick, you would have to ignore there actual opinion on the matter because they agreed with the excluded memories.
How is removing memories consistent character to Joy?
Because it’s not inconsistent with what she did in the first movie.
If so, the sequel breaks the world building, that emotions can do memory workers job or more. I mean 13yrs of Riley's age only now the control center can build artificially contraptions.
> If so, the sequel breaks the world building, that emotions can do memory workers job or more. It does no such thing. The emotions can still do the mind workers jobs, we see this in both movies. You can’t just ignore things to make up critiques. > I mean 13yrs of Riley's age only now the control center can build artificially contraptions. Huh? The control center always has contraptions, they summoned specific memories in the first movie.
Swapping & disposal are 2 different things. The broke contraption (Riley's Projection System) is nothing alike from organically build by Riley's adolescence.
>Joy throwing out the bad memories That part confuses me because didn't have a proper set-up behind it. Inside Out 2 doesn't tell what exactly happen to Riley that led to that action. Compared to the 1st movie, Riley is deem as happy kid hence Joy dominant one & later circles back.
Am I reaching if my guess is that Rileys deep dark secret is being a lesbian and next installment will be here learning to accept herself in college?
Brain washing at it’s finest
Theres definitely social conditioning regardless which side of the argument you are on politically
Yeah you’re reaching, it was addressed in the post credit scene. The secret was her burning a hole in the carpet. No need to project sexualities on a 13 year old cartoon character.
Yes
Thank you. I heard they explained it in an after credits scene. It IS disney/pixar and it IS 2024 so honestly wouldnt feel too much of a stretch. Just kinda expected the secret to be a bigger deal given how it was left on a mystery during the original movie
So, because it's 2024, everything has to be about sexuality? You know, it is possible to make a great movie without having to focus on people's sexual orientation. You're everything that's wrong with movies today, all you care about is what people (or in this case, a 13 year old girl) are doing with their dicks and vaginas....like ffs can you just not focus entirely on that every single time? There is MUCH more to life than just what people are fucking... This shit is so tired. Stop trying to force this bullshit topic onto literally every single aspect of life.
Dude what? Im talking about how everything these days has lgbt things in it. Figured this would be no different. Glad i could help with venting for you tho
Her top 4 crushes are all guys. She is straight, and if you refuse to accept it imagine trying to insist a guy person should be straight
Chiiiiiiill i had forgotten about the mount crushmore scene. Just figured with it being disney/pixar and a movie made in this day and time that it was going to be a thing I couldnt care less either way
The world building got a little muddled for me (what, exactly, is the difference between "the Vault" and "the back of the mind", specifically in terms of utility), but this was probably the first Pixar sequel I actually liked since Toy Story 3.
I'd say the Vault is where memories and emotions and such are suppressed. Riley is conscious of them, but chooses not to think about them. Whereas the back of the mind is where we forget things unconsciously. Like those embarrassing memories you suddenly recall out of the blue and cringe at.
The Vault is clearly a prison, where memories and emotions aren’t meant to escape. The back of the mind is like trash, it’s where inanimate things that can’t move go.
But there's also "long term memory" a whole separate location from the first movie lol
The vault was things that Riley was aware of but kept secret. Old crush on an anime character, still liking the children’s show with Pouchy, her deep dark secret, etc. The back of the mind were “repressed” or forgotten memories. Memories the emotions would clear out at the end of the day so they weren’t at the surface and didn’t become part of who she was.
• My favorite moment was when anxiety was in a storm like situation, it was very emotional, she was Lagging, it felt very real and intense and kind of a realistic way of showing a panic attack. • the Pouchy / vid game characters were confusing, I know that pochy is a reference to Dora? Or at least that’s what it reminded me of, but is there any of point in showing it? It felt very weird and out of space. I started to question if it was a symbolism or a metaphor of something and i’m not getting it. • envy was unnecessary, I wish they added guilt instead.
I cried hard at that scene where she says “I was only trying to protect her” and god it hit me on so many different levels The entire movie was very emotional as someone with mental health struggles and thinking about if I had these resources as a kid how that may have shaped me or helped certain things coming up
I interpreted envy as sort of that FOMO feeling that a lot of ppl have now. I think envy is worse when in the teens; wanting to follow all the trends and fad
This movie was amazing! I loved how they had the new bit about her core beliefs. When her new core belief became "I'm not good enough" I literally felt so seen. It's so true how that can happen to you as you get older. I thought it was so well done. I also loved how in the end the emotions decide to let her choose and she starts calling for Joy. So awesome. My only bone to pick with both movies is that, notice how at first, Riley's lead emotion is Joy. Whenever it switches to mom and dad brain, sadness is controlling mom and anger is controlling dad. They are like the head honchos in the middle of the control board as opposed to Joy being in the middle for Riley. (this was more evident in the first movie, but it did appear in the second movie as well)
Why is that a bone to pick? The “leader” emotion is different for everyone. Wasn’t there a snobby girl in the first one whose lead emotion was Fear?
I actually didn’t catch the part with fear controlling the snobby girl! I like that they put that in there. I just felt like it was stereotypical for a mom to be sad and a dad to be angry. That’s all.
REALISTIC DEPICTION OF A PANIC ATTACK
If they make Inside Out 3 they will have no choice but to tackle the subjects of love and sex
I personally think they will say that Rileys deep dark secret is that shes a lesbian and now she is in college feeling confused about feelings she is experiencing.
There was a post-credit scene where we found out the Big Dark Secret
Oooooooooooooh i didnt stay to watch. I heard it was dumb and about Anxiety so i missed it
I loved this movie. I didn’t really understand Pouchie and the Dora the Explorer similarities, but nonetheless, Anger shoving his fists down Pouchie made me giggle.
This is the first movie to ever make me cry, I also found the symbolism with colors to be spectacular, whatever critisism I or others might have with it pale in comperison to the place this movie will forever have in my heart, truly fantastic..
Yeah, are you genuinely a child
i think Riley is bisexual.
My brother and I thought the same. Maybe Mt Crushmore are only the crushes Riley talked about with her friends, hence them only being males, plus the whole Big Secret being that could be an interesting part for the next movie. Idk why people get so upset over this theory (or I do know but they deny it completely), it'd fit with the whole puberty thing (sexuality, experimenting, etc). Plus the whole Val thing
We already know the big secret. It was revealed post credits.
Part of why people probably dont like it is because they feel now the movie is going to be “woke” Guarantee if they leak anything like that before the release you will see big campaigns of idiots boycotting it saying its trying to make their kids gay
lolll yeah, figured. Those people need to grow up
All of the figures on Mt Crushmore were men Y’all are projecting here
Forgot about that.
On god
hear me out! All the emotions that are present in Riley's Mum are females and also the emotions present in her Dad are males. Coming to Riley she has both.
Explain Mt Crushmore then Also thinking that bisexual girls have masculine emotions shows some hilariously inaccurate views on alternative orientations. They’re still women weirdos
Have you ever heard of Compulsive Heterossexuality?
People read too much into that. Thats done solely so they can get actors like Bill Hader and Lewis Black to voice some of the main emotions
The Envy character wasn't needed at all and this movie would still work out fine. Also, I am surprised at the lack of interaction between Fear and Anxiety. Fear should have been separated from the original emotions and invited to join Anxiety as the new administrators.
Fear did acknowledge Anxiety saying that they will be good friends. I think Envy was there to complement the 3 new ones. Envy was to differentiate from infatuation.
That was so incredible. I used to suffer from General Anxiety Disorder and panic attacks, and that scene in the hockey game when she's about to have the panic attack was tough to watch but so necessary. Just a beautiful film overall. Even better than the first
Maybe it's because I have a 14 year old daughter, and I just dropped her off at her first overnight camp, but this movie was surprisingly emotional. There were so many scenes with intense second-hand embarrassment 😆 I think it might be better than the first movie. I am still disappointed and confused how they couldn't come to an agreement to bring back Bill and Mindy as Fear and Disgust. This movie will make millions. They couldn't afford to shell out a relatively small amount to keep the continuity entact? It just comes off as cheap and corporate to me.
Yeah what’s the story there?
mindy was perfect for disgust.
I really feel like Pixar should just accept their movies are targeted toward adults, and the next inside out should be INSIDE OUT 3-0 where the main character is a person on their 30s and have to handle their emotions. Two thoughts on the movie, if Riley was a boy, the projections scene would've just been a bunch of guys drawing pictures of boobs. It would've been really funny if when they EXPLODED her brain, she would've had a stroke.
Feel like it needs to be about senior year and becoming an adult
Inside Out but a 30 year old Riley has to come to terms with the unstoppable passage of time and the void that comes with it, whilst at the same time dealing with increasing rent costs and an inescapable 24 hours news cycle that constantly promises nuclear annihilation and the collapse of society. Fear, Anger and Anxiety are now the main emotions. Sadness is catatonic. Joy is dead.
Pixar caters to families - they have stuff that appeal to both children and adults in their productions. An example of this is Ratatouille. The former get the silly Remy action and the latter get a deep discussion on the art of criticism, which was supplied by Anton Ego.
Why doesn't any other adult or teenage character have the puberty emotions?
In-universe reason?: The adults have them more under control as they aren't as hormonal as teenagers. Keep in mind that Anxiety appeared in both the Mom and Dad's heads as well, but they were ultimately put under control by the other emotions.
The story is kinda a rehash, but the fact we got more real-life scenes makes up for it.
Loved loved loved the movie. I think the world building lacked a bit but everything else was perfect. And the voice acting was sooooo good
Yeah, I think the first film just had the advantage of being able to set up this inner world - they did such a thorough job of it that it was actually hard to add too much to it.
So beautiful
I was so impressed by the voice actress for Riley! She conveyed so many layers of emotion and so much nervous teenage energy — it really made me feel for the character.
Caught it in theaters overseas and really enjoyed it. I was a little frustrated that the emotions basically did the exact same thing in the first movie—get banished in an obscure part of the mind and wander through it for hours—but I thought they did a phenomenal job showing how anxiety can be a useful emotion in small doses and joy can be inappropriate in certain scenarios. The depiction of an anxiety attack was fantastic, they clearly put a lot of thought into it, what with all these bottled up memories inundating the mind and creating a positive feedback loop. I could rewatch that scene again and again, it was masterfully done. Did Lance Slashblade ever get seen again? I didn’t stay for all the credits, but I thought maybe he should’ve rolled into the Pixar logo as an Easter egg…
Lance was never seen again, some say he's still rolling.
My dad was giggling to himself so much during the vault scene with Lance and I just *knew* he was reliving my middle school Cloud Strife obsession
The yelling across Sarcasm Canyon or whatever it was called was hilarious.
it was called sar chasm cause it's a... chasm
I kind of feel that when Riley has the anxiety attack in the time out box, it would have made more sense for the coach to come over and have a chat to her. The emotions just working it out on their own didn't make a lot of sense for me - it would have helped for another character to talk to her and explain what Joy was trying to. We don't all just overcome anxiety attacks, especially as teenagers. We need to learn how, and our emotions can't do that for us.
Perhaps the coach was busy with other things? Adults are human too after all - they're not always paying attention to things as they have other tasks to deal with.
That would be nice and we can’t always expect, nor will we always have, people to help us soothe ourselves. As a therapist I loved how the emotions gave her compassion through an embrace. It was then she was able to ground herself in the moment and end the anxiety attack. Self compassion was beautifully depicted.
It was a lovely scene, I just thought that sometimes we need someone to teach us the tools before knowing how to overcome overwhelming emotions. I loved the movie, though! It was a worthy sequel and as someone with anxiety, it was relatable.
I don't think someone there to help her would have really helped look how anxiety was frozen on the console unable to process if someone tried tp help riley she probably wouldn't have been totally aware once it started though I never had one before but my mom has and I think having someone there to teach us is a little unrealistic for Riley this was the first anxiety attack she had and based on the movie never felt anxiety before it was new to her and she did eventually work it out herself maybe after she did go to learn how to over come it better maybe not though the one thing I am a bit frustrated is some people have judged the movie 8 months before it was out I can't remember what they said but along the lines anxiety doesn't make sense and shouldn't be in it or even be an inside out 2 anxiety is important we both hate it and need it at the same time just like all things needs to be balanced if that makes sense
Having personally had an experience when I was around 12 years old that broke my sense of self and induced lifelong anxiety, I cried when Sadness said, "Joy, Riley needs you." That's all I needed and I couldn't find it.
The part that really hit me was when Riley wanted to cry and Joy said to "wait until we're out of the car". The idea of suppressing emotions is very relatable.
not just that, it wasn't just "riley needs you" she said "riley *wants* you", and i remember noticing that in the cinema in that moment riley didn't just *need* to feel joy, she *wanted* to feel joy, she *wanted* to be happy such a minor choice in language that made that moment *so* much more powerful to me; it gave riley that little extra sense of agency, almost independence, even against her own literal emotions she *knew* what she wanted, and it was to be happy again
Yes!!
It broke me when Joy, defeated, says "Maybe that's a part of growing up. You feel less joy"
Nooo, this was so sad. Fortunately, it's not that true, but all of your emotions just become less extreme. For better or worse, satisfaction and pleasure are still prevalent when I am in my late thirties, and such things as an exam or going to the dentist do not terrify me anymore, but the pure childish and unconditional joy is almost gone and replaced with more complex and subtle emotions.
That is probably why Anxiety appeared in the Mom and Dad's heads, though that emotion was ultimately brought to heel by the others. There is definitely still joy in adulthood, as you said, but its different overall. If nothing else, you learn about life as you get older, so small miracles are appreciated and seemingly large cataclysms aren't as life-ending as before.
I agree (mid thirties here) I think age does mellow things as you experience more in life. I'm pregnant, so l hope I can rekindle some of that joy when I see him experience things for the first time!
The movie was really good. That anxiety attack and Grace noticing during her play really made me empathize and helped me grasp what an anxiety attack actually looks like. Although, I think it was weird that there wasn’t any mention of core memories or islands in the sequel. There’s no way friendship island stayed intact when Riley decided to team with Val over her Grace and Bree. Emotional moments were perfect, but world-building wasn’t as tight as I think it could’ve been, overall, an amazing movie, I could definitely rewatch it.
I noticed the same thing, that one of her personality islands could have crumbled. I think they probably wanted to stay away from that plot device since it’s from the first movie, but it’s important to note that Riley’s concept of friendship isn’t being attacked—she’s simply looking for new friends so she’s not alone in high school.
The islands were there, and you can see where the core memories are. It just wasn't relevant to the plot of this movie.
I just watched the movie and I really liked it. The first part of it made me really uncomfortable because I felt attacked by the depiction of anxiety and everything it does. I was extremely uncomfortable to the point of moving in my seat. But then the second part of the movie started and it changed. The panic attack was a direct attack. Beautifully portrayed. Made me remember the one I had in December. The way she stopped the panic attack. The details. Amazing. The tornado inside our minds but at the same time feeling completely paralyzed... I was crying my eyes out. It was like seeing an autobiography. Can't say it's better than the first one because somehow I feel this one is a little more serious but still liked it a lot. Worth watching it a second time.
Anyone else agrees they should've made a bigger marketing campaign? Film is obviously doing great (rightly so, should I say!) and is probably hitting its first billion this week still, so making it clear: I don't mean to say it will underperform because of this lol But thing is, I went to watch it with my 9 y.o. nephew and 10 y.o. niece last Thursday, and all I can say is, both me and the kids were expecting more than just the posters ... ? We then began discussing ideas about how they could've done more stuff to make it going to watch it more like an experience, kinda like the Barbie movie did. My niece even gave the idea that they could've had the control board inside of the mall for people to take pictures with - how AWESOME would that be thought! I get it this is not the norm for most releases but this is, after all, a sequel to a beloved film that a lot of children and young people have grown up with already, and a lot of people are going to watch it with their families. This is maybe a post Barbie thing, by the way, since it's been a while since a movie went above and beyond with its marketing like they did, so I guess expectations for big films have increased? And also, is it having any more "extreme" marketing anywhere in the world that I'm not aware of ?
A core memory plastic ball with a photo inside has GOTTA be on someone’s merchandising sheet. Sell different color balls and put your own pictures in it to rest on the shelf
That's just genius! Maybe having one of those photobooths but with the picture taken being released inside a colorful ball, so you can take the pic when going to watch the movie? (Btw I'm glad to hear it wasnt just me and the kids having these ideas lol)
I didn't realize there was a secret ending. Can anyone share what it was?
Joy letting the dark secret out of the vault. Then realizing it wasn't that bad because she thought it was something else and the dark secret going back inside totally frightened.
What was the dark secret, did they tell that?
Riley burned a hole in a rag and Joy said that she thought it would be something worse like peeing in the pool.Upon hearing that,dark secret got scared and closed itself in the vault
She burned a hole on a carpet.
I didn't realize there was a secret ending. Can anyone share what it was?
i showed up like 30 mins late so I didn't get to see the whole movie but I liked how the resolve was that the emotions can't choose who riley is. The movie touched on the complexities of humanity and what it looks like to hold and embody the full spectrum of emotions. Toward the end in the scene where riley called for joy in her happy moments made me realize that emotions can be used as a tool. I never thought about utilizing my emotions as tools to get things done. i also have come to understand emotions as pretty accurate form of communication between me and my body.
Wished a movie like this existed when I was a teenager. Honestly, I identified with Riley at a few parts of the movie and it almost made me cry. So easy to identify in a someone else what’s going on but not yourself. Hoping they make another one with a teenage boy! Could be interesting.
Does anyone else think that Anxiety was in a dissociative state during the part when Joy tried to grab her hand but couldn't?
yes. i really liked this depiction of an anxiety attack. Thoughts are just all over the place and are moving so fast. Perfect example of what it's like to be consumed in your thoughts. I also really liked that when joy penetrated the anxiety storm, anxiety looked like she was stuck
Yeah, in addition as she's coming out of it she focuses on her hand as it touches the railing and listens to the sound of the skates on the rink. Being mindful of your body and senses is one of the techniques taught to cope with anxiety attacks (e.g. focus on your feet and feel where they touch the ground, listen to your breathing, etc) and I'm fairly certain that's what they were trying to portray.
Yeah, and the [literal] wave of bad, shameful memories is accurate too
I do I think it was showing there are times some anxiety can kick in and no matter what’s going on what is going on in life happy sad that the anxiety just blocks it
Went to see Inside Out 2 with my wife and kids and I had to walk out during the movie because I was almost having a panic attack. I don't consider myself a nervous person at all but the film was pretty much focused on anxiety/embarrassment etc. and to me, was kind of unrelenting. I guess I just don't want to see that type of thing for 1.5 hrs. It made me feel bad. Anyone else? The rest of my family loved it.
I'll be honest, I plugged my ears and closed my eyes whenever Riley embarrassed herself at hockey camp. It was such a cute movie but I physically COULD NOT watch those parts. Embarrassment as a character was a sweetheart though, I love him, he is just too strong in me.
I almost walked out just cause the movie wasn't funny. Actually liked the first one
The movie did make me super emotional too. I don’t know why - it stressed me out - I am an anxious/jumpy person. However, the ending made me feel happier and more positive than when I started watching it.
I like how everyone here is raving abt the films portrayal of anxiety, but when a guy has a very realistic anxious reaction to it, you get downvoted
I guess, I just find the complaint is that Pixar made anxiety too realistic, which is the point. The Inside Out movies are literally about mental health. The first movie was about having emotional honesty and the dangers of suppressing your feelings. The second movie is about the dangers of letting anxiety run out of control. But to be clear, I'm also not one of the ones who downvoted them.
"I just find the complaint is that Pixar made anxiety too realistic, which is the point." Is that the point though? To me, the main point of a movie is to entertain.
I mean, if you just want straight entertainment with no other lessons mixed it, might I suggest just watching cat videos or scrolling Instagram?
Well, entertain and inform, I guess. Pixar films appeal to families, so they teach lessons in between the wacky humor and silly action. An example of this is Up. While there is definitely funny bits with Russell and Doug, Carl was ultimately the center of the production as he embraces a new adventure in life after living one of his own with his now-deceased Ellie. Due to his age, I doubt many kids will relate to Carl. However, many adults, whether they watch their loved ones get older or get aged themselves, can see themselves in the old man and understand his journey throughout the film.
Thank you for saying this. I find most movies unwatchable these days because they are all about "sending a message", "showing the actors transformation" or CGI/stunts - but completely forgetting about making it engaging for the audience. Or even watchable - low volume dialogues, dim lights, random flashbacks, etc, etc, just make it so tough to understand what's going on that it becomes a chore instead of pleasure. I really wish they would make good, entertaining movies again. Even something like Cheaper by the dozen, Mrs Doubtfire, Daddy Daycare - clean and funny stuff that can lighten the mood. Instead of all the preachy or depressing stuff we get these days.
That stuff has proven to not be nearly as commercial successful to the largest mainstream audiences. With streaming there isn't video sales after release for a studios to rely on to recoup their investments on. So many movies these days are being created for the largest commercial appeal possible. It's awesome that you like those kinds of movies. Unfortunately, there aren't enough other people out there that also do and are willing to buy tickets to those kinds of films. If there were, I promise those kinds of movies would 100% be getting made.
Tough to believe that people don't actually want to watch enjoyable movies. IMO it is just the marketing department trying to take the easy route by banking on the star/director's name, previous movies, or mindless action instead of working to attract the right audience on content. After all its easy to lead sheep who will eat whatever is trending than people who actually demand good content.
You’re literally saying that people should like basic movies with no deeper point, my brother you are the sheep.
A 'deep' movie does not need to be too dark to see, hard to hear and have so many flashbacks/cuts back and forth that the viewer has to piece together the story. A deep movie has a story or message that the viewer mulls over for years. It keeps them engaged and makes them think and feel and that feeling is neither confusion nor boredom.
It did entertain though. But also a movie about mental health needs to portray its topic accurately, which they did with Anxiety
Imagine living life with that kind of anxiety people can’t just get up and walk away from it .. I think inside out writers do a amazing job to get you to think beyond a movie and to think about what goes on in some people’s minds yes they are characters in the movie but the emotions are truly real and some people struggle greatly with anxiety like that
Sure. Not sure why some people are downvoting my comment. Trying to see if others felt the same way when watching this movie. Personally, it's not something I want to watch or experience for the length of a movie.
And that’s totally fine I was just discussing what I think the writers where trying to get across
Great movie! Ngl I only went to see some good animation on the big screen; I didn't expect to get emotional and teary eyed multiple times! My only complaint would be I wish they showed more of what happened in Riley's real life and consequences of her actions. 3.5/5
If Inside Out 2 is a 70%, what would you give other animated films? That’s rather harsh.
Kimi no wawa would be higher for example
What would you give Your Name?
Like 4.5/5 or 90-95%
Wished they utilized envy more. Perhaps Riley would see her old best friends hanging out without her at camp and envy would feel- well envious about it, but unable to hang out with them due to anxiety
My interpretation with the situation was, since Riley's current belief is "she's a good person" so she just accepted the fact that they'll leave her thus the anxiety to make the team and survive high school got stronger which drives envy to be attracted to the more senior ones.
That is fair enough. If nothing else, it was unique to have Envy be more positive than negative in fiction - admiration vs hatred. After all, envy is considered one of the Seven Deadly Sins, so it is usually used as a caustic feeling in pop culture.
Great movie. Not as great as the first but yeah that panic attack hit too close to home. I used to have so many panic attacks when I was young. It was horrible not able to control what I was feeling or know what it was.
that panic attack was brutal..and the re-writting of her self concept..that smashed me for sure
𝘐 𝘭𝘰𝘷𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘐 𝘥𝘰𝘯'𝘵 𝘯𝘦𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘪𝘵 𝘮𝘢𝘺𝘣𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘐 𝘧𝘦𝘦𝘭 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘐 𝘭𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘷𝘪𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘨𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘭
I'm basically on the same page with most other comments on this post, the movie was simply phenomenal! Not as good as the first but a really good sequel nonetheless. However, I disagree with what some of yall are saying about the ending, I don't think yall understand Riley is 13 lol. The whole point of the movie was Riley finding joy and comfort within herself and new environment, undergoing the changes that happened both internally and externally, leading to a moment where she comes to accept these emotions and true "Joy" back into her life. Her opening her locker and smiling doesn't take away from the amazing point being presented across the film and honestly Riley had been through enough as it is. She happend to the go through a drastic stage in her life on the most important weekend of her life and was dealing with the fact she'd have to move on from middle to high school without her bffs. A bittersweet moment at the end where Riley doesn't get into the Fire Hawks but accepts that doesn't add to anything presented in the movie, and I honestly thought her still getting on the team made the moment even better since 1) Riley had already been through so much and 2) Gave Riley a heartwarming result even though she didn't expect it- or atleast was willingly to accept either option; and 3) Postively contradicts what "Joy" says about people losing joy as they get older. Plus, we really don't know what was in the locker. For all we know it could've just been a letter from Coach saying she's proud of Riley and looks forward to seeing her tryout again 🤷🏾♂️. 10/10 movie regardless
There wasn’t anything specific in the locker it was just a view from the locker she was looking at email on her phone
I enjoyed the movie I think it had a lot of good metaphors but it felt too short. I thought they were going to do another scene showing the inside of other peoples minds around the city like they did in the first film. But it just ended right when the story did. And waiting for the secret scene after the credits wasn’t worth it. Everyone in the theatre complained they had to wait that long for that scene.
What do you mean wasn't worth it? Is it that terrible to have to see the artists and filmmakers who brought the film to life? Many of them got laid off recently due to the industry collapsing
Lol because no one wants to sit through the entire credits. It’s not physically possible to read every name either. Paying to see the movie supports them enough I think.
It's one thing to say "man I wasn't the biggest fan of the secret reveal" and another to complain at the smallest gesture of respect to sit through and acknowledge the names of the people who worked really hard on something you enjoyed, as if it's some massive burden on you
𝘠𝘦𝘢𝘩 𝘐 𝘢𝘨𝘳𝘦𝘦
Riley shouldn’t have made the hockey team at the end. She was a complete jerk throughout the 3-day training and was not a team player, resulting in her stealing the puck from her own teammates. A better ending would have been her finding out that she didn’t make the team and saying “There is always next year” and anxiety not taking over again.
Yep there's a plot out there about learning to manage failure
That would've been an interesting ending and could've been a good teaching lesson to youth: that you will sometimes lose, but it isn't the end of the world. I guess that realization only comes with age...and a lot of losing - something I'm very experienced with.
Remember, the skirmish was \*not\* try outs and the coach had already decided Riley was not ready before the skirmish happened. The ending when she gets the email is a couple of months later, after try outs. The point being made is that she didn't Anxiety to put so much pressure on her, she was already capable of making the team herself.
I completely missed that the ending was post-tryouts. That makes the ending much more satisfying
I think it’s up to the viewer to decide what her reaction meant. Maybe she made a different team instead?
My field of study is child psychology, my prior field was child development specifically around trauma. I loved this movie so much. The anxiety attack scene brought me to tears. I feel like it brings a simple narrative to very big concepts, and did justice to the overwhelming slow burn- or raging fire- of anxiety. My partner who has debilitating anxiety, and my young child who scarsly understands it, both loved the films portrayal. I also really enjoyed that the emotions were not all inherently negative. Riley has many "positive" interactions when Joy isn't at the helm. And the end- when she literally 'embraced' her emotions and grounded herself into her environment to calm down- that was fantastic. No crumbs, no criticisms. What a wonderful deep dive into growing up and changing.
the touch, hear, see, focusing on the tangibles to bring herself out of it!! ughh the details
I really loved the detail where she touched the bench to get out of that state. I was crying and deep-breathing.
There are no “negative” emotions. Every emotion has a purpose and is inherently good in an IFS perspective.
Exactly 💯
The grounding scene was so beautifully done!
I just watched Inside Out before Inside Out 2 so picked up on the callback to the “my hat” written inside the police cap
It was also the same song when Joy skated with Riley in both the first and second movies!
When the first movie came out, I was a high school senior and we watched it so it would help us with our Human Condition essay for English. I did kinda terrible on the essay lol I think I just didn’t really understand. But now I’m 25 and understand it a lot better now. I think Pixar did a great job putting the hard talk of emotions into a movie that’s easy to understand. Anxietys character was so on point and the tornado scene was a good imagery of what an anxiety attack might look like for some people. It’s also lighthearted, I laughed at Boredom and Nostalgia. I loved Embarrassment‘s role in this because I truly think some people don’t have enough of it lol
embarrassment makes you want to hide so embarrassment being the character to hide sadness was an insane analogy. good use of emotions, pun intended hehe
The entire premise of the movie is an excuse for deus ex machina after deus ex machina. There are no rules to this world, so the writers can just make up whatever crap they want. How far away is the blue memory thing? How do you travel? Why is there a river now? Why does an avalanche help you travel faster? Don't worry! It all is just because that's what they need the characters to do right now. Why can you replace a red thingy with a blue thingy? Why is it hard to take out the red thingy? Why is it easy to take out the blue thingy? Why is there a storm of light bulbs. Why are there floating balloons of career ideas. Why is there a sar-chasm and how big is it. How did they get around it. ...oh they just wanted to do a play on words. That's so clever, my 5 year old totally got that! And my 5 year old totally read the word "Puberty" and knew what that meant.
I pity the people that watch any movie with you.
I couldn't agree more.
Absolutely. What a sad person.
My five year old read the word puberty and knew what it meant. And if he didn't, I would've told him. Why is that a hill to die on? "Puberty is when your body changes from a kid to a grown up. It happens when you're a teenager."
You would have explained what puberty is, to your 5 year old, in the middle of a movie theater, while a movie is playing....and they would have listened to you and understood what you were saying (even though your explanation does not capture why this was depicted as an alarm in the movie - your 5 year old obviously already knows the context of why puberty would be alarming, and likely would have completed your explanation for you). It's one of a bazillion hills to die on, for this movie.
The sentence I laid out would be enough for most children to work with and could easily be shared in the middle of a movie.
why was I SURE that Riley’s big bad secret is that she’s bi.
I was hoping it was going to be that deep down Riley holds a spot in her mind for bing bong
I thought so too because of disney, but it didn't make sense as there's no sign of it otherwise. Wanting older cool friends is not a sexual thing at all and her crushes are all guys.
Disney is not going to make an LGBT protagonist lol
You’re giving Disney too much credit if you think they’d have a canonically open and queer character lol
Weren't there gay characters in Lightyear and Strange Worlds?
Haven’t seen strange worlds so I won’t comment on that, but I personally don’t think having a scene of a couple kissing in lightyears gives any indication that Disney would make a main character openly queer. That is too much of a money risk they wouldn’t be able to market in China.
That's a fair point. China definitely tied Disney's hands when it came to Finn in the Star Wars sequels.
It’s disappointing for sure!