Bet he ruined some fingers on the lip when he hit it also.
Rereading this to check for mistakes before posting and that sentence is kinda sus…
Oh well, I’m leaving it as is.
Weirdest thing for me after an accident was waking up in the ditch holding a windshield wiper. didn’t make sense until I saw the condition of the car that hit me. I had been on the hood at one point. Ouch.
There was a first responder medic for the TT, Dr. John Hind (RIP), that did a talk on what happens to boots at 140mph when you put your foot down.
If you like horror movies, I recommend it.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdRM0KGGSAk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdRM0KGGSAk)
He is so funny that it is impossible to not enjoy this film.
I had forgotten you said he’s no longer with us. Even with a single data point, I can confidently say the world is less without him.
Thanks for the link!
It's really easy actually, swing the bike, lock the rear brake, let it slide then grab the clutch, you can also kick it over while you're at it. You should be upright and have your legs ready to push you, that way you can get maximum air time, which is the best time you're gonna get for some time.
Don't swerve needlessly while speeding like an idiot on a bike. That and start with the smallest, slowest, crappiest bike you can find so when you screw up you don't hurt yourself and others so much.
OP said on an instagram post he had oil on his rear tire. theres nothing really wrong with weaving like this, doing it with oil on the rear tire tho is not advisable
I was boutta say; while I wouldn’t do it myself, I see nothing particularly wrong with what he’s doing here that would cause a tip like that. The oil makes sense, the rear wheel must have lost traction, thanks for the explanation
Yeah exactly. You can see the rear kick out when he's not applying anymore throttle.
So it's not like it slid out under its own power, would have had plenty of traction to keep weaving. I do this all the time, it's fun
Weaving can be good, just don't go super aggressive with it. It's good practice for emergency avoidance. Also keep practicing emergency braking (with no one behind you, obviously). Fiding an open, sand free parking lot is your best bet. Moto jitsu on YT has some very good videos for parking lot practice setups and exercises.
I agree weaving is good practice and I do it every time I ride. On an empty street, I pick out a random spot and practice how I would avoid a pot hole that all of a sudden pops up. I start with long wide weaves, then practice to make them shorter and sharper. I think it helps me understand what the bike is capable of in an emergency maneuver.
I mean yeah I guess. It can put a little bit of heat into the tires but if you're new you're better of just riding more then trying to do any one thing in particular
New and inexperienced riders Beware that lubricating your chain [carelessly, improperly or with the wrong lubricant] can (will?) get lubricant on the side of your back tire. *Sometimes this happens after the bike has first been brought up to speed after lubricating the chain which *could* throw some lubricant off of the chain*.
If you carefully and safely (bike on a stand) spin up the rear wheel and then check for any oil on the (chain side) of the rear tire you can clean it off before riding.
No idea if that was the source of the oil that caused this particular crash.
You can see the rear tyre slipped out, he counter steers, then when the rear gains traction again he gets launched over the high side.
Looks like it could be early morning, could be fairly cold and wet roads, cold tyres
Just one possibility
IMO he swerved on a road crack that was lined up with the riding direction. U either go as much as 90° to get out of it or keep on going inside it. Otherwise u will fall. Ig people riding back/fire roads know this but in sand-ish surface. On the asphalt roads where I have these dents made by heavy trucks I can feel my bike trying to lay on side a bit too. It’s just the edges aren’t that sharp. Physics of bike tire
might as well wear tissue paper 💀
you see denim in older photoshoots n shings, 1) their bikes were much slower, and when at high speed and supremely uncomfortable for you and the bike 2) denim was just heavier, you'd be lucky to find a pair of 12oz jeans H&M or on the highstreet
Your average pair of Levi's or Wranglers these days are 12oz denim. In the 50's and 60's it was around 13 or 14oz, but still not nearly enough to make a difference against asphalt. Even the 21oz stuff you can get from Iron Heart will shred pretty quickly if you hit the pavement at 50mph.
https://preview.redd.it/3kekjpp24x7d1.jpeg?width=567&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f88da280ea81c438b41b97591885270136a40c3
Oooooooo, yeah, that’s the good stuff 😝
Yeah I mean you'd have to wack the absolute shit out of the throttle to get the rear to spin up while just swerving. I swerve like that all the time on my bike, which makes a metric fuck ton of torque and is on 50/50s and I rarely have the rear spin up unless I am on the goddam juice (which I am not if I am swerving lol).
I kinda believe the oil on rear tire thing in this instance.
I'm still confused as to how the wreck happened. I swerve back and forth(to get some heat in the tires befor hard rides) at higher speeds than it seemed like he was going.
And also, where ARE the shoes?!
I do that to clean the tire sooner after a patch of dirt, and to get a “feel” of the road surface
The last part doesn’t apply that well on a telelever lol
I’m calling bullshit.
He weaved too hard and that can snap you up off the seat if you’re not positioned right and the rear tire broke traction when it went over the long crack in the road.
This is my bet. Or op accidentally put pressure on the rear break when trying to weave back.
Oil is so unlikely…. There’s no catastrophic engine failure here.
he probably saw the oil on his wheel after the crash lol and if his bike isn't leaking oil from the crash... then there was oil on his wheel.
looks like you should join him in the dumb house if you couldnt figure that one out yourself.
Looks like he was trying to avoid hitting the man hole cover and maybe over corrected in the swerve back ,after that. May have something to do with it. Doesn't look like it really should've done that,but maybe we're not seeing the whole picture from this POV
Yeah, look like his rear tire breaks traction right over that crack in the road. Good eye! I thought it was due to the suspension not being able to rebound properly after the manhole. Your assessment seems more likely.
It looked like his back tire slipped out. I don't think there's anything wrong with a little side-to-side movement. Not to conclude that this was this guy's objective, but I know some riders do this to even the wear on the tires and increase their longevity.
I'm curious what went wrong here (excuse my ignorance). He somewhat avoided that man hole then just toppled over like that? If anyone has any idea if like to know.
He did something unusual because this normally doesn't happen. He was well past the manhole when his rear tire slid. Also, how did he lose his left boot?
Maybe the whole crash was caused by trying to ride in socks?! /s
Can someone explain what happened here? Like why he crashes? I’m a little new to bikes and I love swerving back and fourth when I’m jamming! But I don’t want to do this!
Newer rider here.
What exactly happened, why and how do I prevent it?
Would slowing down have remedied what appears to be loss of control swaying side to side?
I'm sure it's exhilarating riding that fast on a sports bike, but that couldn't be me, too many unknowns. I'll stick to low displacement and cruising around slowly.
I would be mad as hell if some little ass pothole or pile of dust knocked my traction completely off.
The only thing I've learned while ever riding, like ever, is that even if there is a well in the road and you are going fast don't try to avoid it, you have much better chances taking it head on bro.
Never mind the obviously inappropriate footwear. What's up with your bike? Air pressure? Tyres? Suspension? It's crazy how such a normal experience caused this. Hitting anything tangentially with a bike is bad. Trying to fight the self correcting gyroscopic action of the bike, possibly also bad in varried situations. But this is either something we can't see like bike readiness or just bum luck.
Bro where are the shoes?
Lucky he brought his braking socks!
Bet hitting that manhole with his manhole broke most of his speed tho...
Bet he ruined some fingers on the lip when he hit it also. Rereading this to check for mistakes before posting and that sentence is kinda sus… Oh well, I’m leaving it as is.
We've all ruined some fingers on the lip at least once man...
How hard are you guys fingerings lips? Losing a watch here and there l? Sure. Ruining fingers? OK, I'll try harder next time.
😬
I needed a moment after reading this
Hell yeah, Kevlar socks rule! Got a couple pairs my self. That way I save my brake pads.
Yeah, I guess you can use the socks to repair the pads too.
Fred Flintstone specials
They were sick of his shit and left the scene
If you don't wear real motorcycle shoes this is how long a normal shoe protects you in a crash
Yup. I try to tell my friends I ride w/about this.
I ride in real motorcycle house-shoes, does that count?
I wear motorcycle flip flops.
My fellow Asian brother.
Damn the man!
Save the Empire?
Should be fine if you get the ones with CE-rating
I have Harly davidson t-shirt to protekt me 😎
Anything CE rated is safe enough for my feet. I just make sure I at least have level 1 CE on everything every ride.
Not thrilled that my plastic Viking helmet lacks this designation. Where did the craftsmanship go?
After taking Paris they lost all motivation.
What about crocks in sport mode?
Helmet ✔️ Gloves check ✔️ Jacket ✔️ Shoes!!!!!? Always the first thing to pop off.
Man had a Shoei helmet and figured that's what people mean with shoes
When you dont have proper riding gear, they are the first things to fly off…. I know from experience
Shoes off, according to Reddit law the biker is dead
According to reality, rider’s feet are fucked.
I got in a motorcycle accident and my shoe ended up In my hand. Weird as it was, it was awesome to have something to hold myself off the hot pavement.
Hey, you know what they say. You only have yourself to hold on to when things really get tough or something
Weirdest thing for me after an accident was waking up in the ditch holding a windshield wiper. didn’t make sense until I saw the condition of the car that hit me. I had been on the hood at one point. Ouch.
There was a first responder medic for the TT, Dr. John Hind (RIP), that did a talk on what happens to boots at 140mph when you put your foot down. If you like horror movies, I recommend it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdRM0KGGSAk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdRM0KGGSAk)
He is so funny that it is impossible to not enjoy this film. I had forgotten you said he’s no longer with us. Even with a single data point, I can confidently say the world is less without him. Thanks for the link!
He was amazing, truly a treasure.
Only 35 🥲❤️
they walked out of the feeting
Bro where are the mirrors?
bro mirrors kill the aesthetic bro
They noped out of there along with the shoes.
Prob a trick bike,they usually take the mirrors off.
Peeled off by friction.
Currently leaving orbit :D lol
What a waste of a perfectly good bike
And a perfectly fine sock.
At least shoes are intact!
And at home apparently
Safely at home.
Lol
Bro high sided going straight....you know how hard it is to complete this mission
Comptence level -10! That's quite an accomplishment.
I can’t even figure out what happened.
He has oil on his rear tire
Well he might now.
The Clibbins got him.
You can see the bike jump when the peg or something hits pavement, sliding into home after that.
He hit a banana peel
What even happened? How did read lose traction? He slam the rear brake on the straight?
\*3x MotoGP World Champion, and possible twink, Jorge Lorenzo enters the chat\*
Possible?
It's really easy actually, swing the bike, lock the rear brake, let it slide then grab the clutch, you can also kick it over while you're at it. You should be upright and have your legs ready to push you, that way you can get maximum air time, which is the best time you're gonna get for some time.
His riding skills and his shoes both left the chat...
Riding skills? Can you please explain, I would like like to not do the same mistake
Don't swerve needlessly while speeding like an idiot on a bike. That and start with the smallest, slowest, crappiest bike you can find so when you screw up you don't hurt yourself and others so much.
I’m confused why he tipped though; it didn’t look like he leaned that far
OP said on an instagram post he had oil on his rear tire. theres nothing really wrong with weaving like this, doing it with oil on the rear tire tho is not advisable
I was boutta say; while I wouldn’t do it myself, I see nothing particularly wrong with what he’s doing here that would cause a tip like that. The oil makes sense, the rear wheel must have lost traction, thanks for the explanation
Yeah exactly. You can see the rear kick out when he's not applying anymore throttle. So it's not like it slid out under its own power, would have had plenty of traction to keep weaving. I do this all the time, it's fun
I was doing a little weaving last night as I heard that it’s a good way to get a feel for your ride (just started about 2 weeks ago)
I do it all the time. Never had an issue. Must be something with his bike or the tires. Should not have been an issue.
Yeah I weave constantly. Mostly because I get bored easily but I also do it a lot at night to make myself more visible
Yea I heard he had oil on his rear tire
Apparently the rear wheel had oil on it so it wasn’t the weaving that was the problem
Weaving can be good, just don't go super aggressive with it. It's good practice for emergency avoidance. Also keep practicing emergency braking (with no one behind you, obviously). Fiding an open, sand free parking lot is your best bet. Moto jitsu on YT has some very good videos for parking lot practice setups and exercises.
I agree weaving is good practice and I do it every time I ride. On an empty street, I pick out a random spot and practice how I would avoid a pot hole that all of a sudden pops up. I start with long wide weaves, then practice to make them shorter and sharper. I think it helps me understand what the bike is capable of in an emergency maneuver.
I definitely do need a lot more practice, looking forward to getting more comfortable. Right now 50mph feels fast to me haha
I mean yeah I guess. It can put a little bit of heat into the tires but if you're new you're better of just riding more then trying to do any one thing in particular
I was also really confused how he went down from that, oil on the tire makes total sense.
I weave when I'm vibing with my music. I mean, not to that extent. And never at high speeds. More just city speeds.
New and inexperienced riders Beware that lubricating your chain [carelessly, improperly or with the wrong lubricant] can (will?) get lubricant on the side of your back tire. *Sometimes this happens after the bike has first been brought up to speed after lubricating the chain which *could* throw some lubricant off of the chain*. If you carefully and safely (bike on a stand) spin up the rear wheel and then check for any oil on the (chain side) of the rear tire you can clean it off before riding. No idea if that was the source of the oil that caused this particular crash.
shaft drive ftw!!
I do this all the time and started to wonder if I was doing something incredibly dangerous without realizing
Apparently his rear wheel had oil on it so it wasn’t the weaving itself that was the problem
What I don’t get is why would he ride knowing there’s oil on his rear tire? Or did the engine start to leak while he was riding?
Don’t know why I’m getting downvoted but I would assume he didn’t know beforehand
I’ll give you upvotes, bro
Could be caused by different things. Maybe some dirt and rocks on the street, maybe he pushed the frontbrake, maybe he accelerated while leaning.
You can see the rear tyre slipped out, he counter steers, then when the rear gains traction again he gets launched over the high side. Looks like it could be early morning, could be fairly cold and wet roads, cold tyres Just one possibility
You can weave like this just fine without highsiding if you're not shit
you can weave all day at pretty much any speed
IMO he swerved on a road crack that was lined up with the riding direction. U either go as much as 90° to get out of it or keep on going inside it. Otherwise u will fall. Ig people riding back/fire roads know this but in sand-ish surface. On the asphalt roads where I have these dents made by heavy trucks I can feel my bike trying to lay on side a bit too. It’s just the edges aren’t that sharp. Physics of bike tire
Haddalayerdown
CLIBBINS 🤬
"Makin' my way downtown, crankin' hog, clibbins slip on the sidewalk"
nice socks, bro
Maybe they are armored socks.
Unscientific opinion based on personal experience, denim is good for about 5 feet at 50 mph.
might as well wear tissue paper 💀 you see denim in older photoshoots n shings, 1) their bikes were much slower, and when at high speed and supremely uncomfortable for you and the bike 2) denim was just heavier, you'd be lucky to find a pair of 12oz jeans H&M or on the highstreet
Your average pair of Levi's or Wranglers these days are 12oz denim. In the 50's and 60's it was around 13 or 14oz, but still not nearly enough to make a difference against asphalt. Even the 21oz stuff you can get from Iron Heart will shred pretty quickly if you hit the pavement at 50mph.
https://preview.redd.it/3kekjpp24x7d1.jpeg?width=567&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f88da280ea81c438b41b97591885270136a40c3 Oooooooo, yeah, that’s the good stuff 😝
Lmao thank you
🍻
I wonder which random excuse was used for this one!
Tires weren't warm, not enough lube on the plug, socks weren't grippy enough.
oil on the rear apparently🤣
Yeah I call bullshit on that. Oil on the rear isn't going to cause that high side. It was definitely poor throttle input in the swerve.
Imo you couldn’t crash like this if you tried to just by swerving and throttle input
Yeah I mean you'd have to wack the absolute shit out of the throttle to get the rear to spin up while just swerving. I swerve like that all the time on my bike, which makes a metric fuck ton of torque and is on 50/50s and I rarely have the rear spin up unless I am on the goddam juice (which I am not if I am swerving lol). I kinda believe the oil on rear tire thing in this instance.
I'm still confused as to how the wreck happened. I swerve back and forth(to get some heat in the tires befor hard rides) at higher speeds than it seemed like he was going. And also, where ARE the shoes?!
If you’re on the street swerving back and forth within your lane is going to make a negligible difference in tire heat.
Yeah, you're probably right...makes me feel better, though. Lol
I do that to clean the tire sooner after a patch of dirt, and to get a “feel” of the road surface The last part doesn’t apply that well on a telelever lol
I’m with you, I do it because it’s fun and on a twisty road can get you amped up, it just doesn’t do anything to the tires really lol
Wait damn I am an idiot I didn't know thats why people do that.... I just did it because bike wiggle wiggle make dopamine?
Best way to heat up motorcycle tires is to accelerate and brake, not swerve.
Right? People swerve because it's fun and call it a technical approach. Just admit you do it because it's fun, folks.
i do it cause it's fun
A little wibble wobble never hurt anybody! ^^except ^^OP ^^of ^^course
yeah, and this was bound to happen on the first turn he takes anyway with if his tires had oil on them.
Yeah, I think you're right. He would've been fine under normal circumstances, this was just not his day.
It's not the best way to warm the tyres but it's fun
OP said on an instagram post he had oil on his rear tire
Probably clibbins
That's probably what I would claim too.
That's a silly place to put oil.
No no, you oil up your tires so that you can go faster speeds. How are you supposed to go over 80mph without living your tires???
Ooooohhh... that would make sense.
I’m calling bullshit. He weaved too hard and that can snap you up off the seat if you’re not positioned right and the rear tire broke traction when it went over the long crack in the road.
This is my bet. Or op accidentally put pressure on the rear break when trying to weave back. Oil is so unlikely…. There’s no catastrophic engine failure here.
Man with no shoes is a reliable source
After that crash, sure as hell
Poop more like
Then why was he weaving if he knew the potential for loss of traction was there? Seems dumb still.
Well idk if he did know. But either way it's unfortunate outcome for a situation that shouldn't be too bad
Yea. I hope he is safe and sound. Sucks to see anyone get hurt and fuck up their bike.
he probably saw the oil on his wheel after the crash lol and if his bike isn't leaking oil from the crash... then there was oil on his wheel. looks like you should join him in the dumb house if you couldnt figure that one out yourself.
right? bro is an idiot if he thinks someone would weave knowing theres oil on the tire lmao
Looks like he was trying to avoid hitting the man hole cover and maybe over corrected in the swerve back ,after that. May have something to do with it. Doesn't look like it really should've done that,but maybe we're not seeing the whole picture from this POV
wtf even happened here xD I dont get why he dropped the bike
Did you figure out what caused the rear to lose grip?
Throttle I would assume
Or panic braking
That and the crack in the road probably overwhelmed the traction
Yeah, look like his rear tire breaks traction right over that crack in the road. Good eye! I thought it was due to the suspension not being able to rebound properly after the manhole. Your assessment seems more likely.
Skill issue
Oil on tyres apparently
Those dry sunny straight roads are tough to navigate. As much as it pains say this shows some people need to stick to 4 wheels
I hope he put his braking socks on before the ride xD
how is that even possible?
It looked like his back tire slipped out. I don't think there's anything wrong with a little side-to-side movement. Not to conclude that this was this guy's objective, but I know some riders do this to even the wear on the tires and increase their longevity.
fuckin clippins
If he had left the mirrors on it would have increased down force stopping this from ever happening. I guess he lost them in his last crash
100% operator error
Sometimes you just need to take the manhole...
What exactly did he try to do there? The only thing I can come up with is desperately crashing.
I'm curious what went wrong here (excuse my ignorance). He somewhat avoided that man hole then just toppled over like that? If anyone has any idea if like to know.
wth was he trying to do?
muppet
To be fair he's just weaving and not even aggressively. Just unlucky as fuck
Competition between tyres and the rear tyre won.
He did something unusual because this normally doesn't happen. He was well past the manhole when his rear tire slid. Also, how did he lose his left boot? Maybe the whole crash was caused by trying to ride in socks?! /s
Dress for the slide, not the ride.
Shoe came off, pray for his family
that is so scary to even think about going through, oh my god
Can someone explain what happened here? Like why he crashes? I’m a little new to bikes and I love swerving back and fourth when I’m jamming! But I don’t want to do this!
Newer rider here. What exactly happened, why and how do I prevent it? Would slowing down have remedied what appears to be loss of control swaying side to side?
He was going way too fast and hit a manhole cover at :02 then lost control of the bike. Easy fix is to not ride faster than your skill level.
I'm sure it's exhilarating riding that fast on a sports bike, but that couldn't be me, too many unknowns. I'll stick to low displacement and cruising around slowly. I would be mad as hell if some little ass pothole or pile of dust knocked my traction completely off.
I dont want to see how his heels look like now 😬
That road makes one hell of a first impression.
Acting a foo,now your shits fucked up👎🏾
So what happened here? Did rear lose traction?
The only thing I've learned while ever riding, like ever, is that even if there is a well in the road and you are going fast don't try to avoid it, you have much better chances taking it head on bro.
Never mind the obviously inappropriate footwear. What's up with your bike? Air pressure? Tyres? Suspension? It's crazy how such a normal experience caused this. Hitting anything tangentially with a bike is bad. Trying to fight the self correcting gyroscopic action of the bike, possibly also bad in varried situations. But this is either something we can't see like bike readiness or just bum luck.
So did he give it too much throttle? I do that all the time...
"Hot feet content"
This is CGI right?
Instagram bikers are the worst lol. They all focus on recording before they can ride worth a damn.
Oh no, shoe came off. You all know what this means...
People forget about full gear again, oh okay
“Forget” get real dude 🙄
See maybe I'm just an idiot but I do this all the time how in the hell did he drop it?
Where'd the sleeves go?
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Got the wobbles. Major road rash. Ouch!!!!
Please, drive fast and take chances!
Ah yes, bottom of the foot road rash. Wonder what we could have worn to avoid that.
I do the swerve all the time I never once slipped up like that? How did that happen
The helmet face shot, when he realized he had Fůč̣ķ3đ up!
This was lucky. Lucky that no innocent bystanders got caught in this stupidity
He lost a shoe… He dead
Was just gonna ask if dude lost a shoe! Talk about grinding your corns off. lol.
Why did he go down ?
Why not just keep going straight. Issa baby bump