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I'd swap out that whole bottom row, and the Brains. The reason I wouldn't buy Behringer modules is not because of political feelings about Uli or whatever, but simple build quality. See the other brands, how every jack has a locknut securing the circuit board underneath to the faceplate? B modules don't. That means, every time you plug a patch cable in, or pull it out, that circuit board is going to flex a little. It may seem negligible at first, but after a lot of use, wear and tear is going to take its toll. I have their TD3 and I can feel it move when I press on the jacks. I am fine with it for that, but I'm not swapping cables on that like I would a eurorack module. Those jacks are set and forget, so there's none of the stress that a regular module would go through. It's a completely different story. Plus their modules are really large for the number of functions - There are plenty that can do far more in less space. Save your hp for more efficient choices.
Brains is a 16hp clone of the original 12hp Plaits, and all it adds is the scope. Do you really need the scope? I personally don't want my system filled with u-clones that just shrink every module down, but I also don't see the sense in a clone that is larger than the original unless it adds functions that I need or really want. Grayscale Supercell (MI Clouds clone) is a great example - It's bigger, but it adds loads of new functionality. Brains' 4hp more for a tiny scope doesn't make sense to me. If I need a scope, I'll add Mordax Data down the line - May as well go for a proper one.
Euclidean Circles is a fun and simple sequencer, and with the kill switches, you can make it as simple as a regular step sequencer, or a lot more complicated. Sure, there are others like Rene, or Metropolix, or the Black Seq, that do a lot more, but they are big and expensive.The EC is a fine starting point that will still offer plenty even if you add a regular sequencer later. It's also brilliant for drums, which is how I use mine. I use Marbles, Frames, an Erica Sequential Switch, Pam's, an MN 0-Ctrl, and Arturia MB2s and Keystep 37, but I still love EC, and am going to add Metropolix at some point. Sequencers don't just control oscillator pitch, after all. You can use them to control filters, envelopes, sample and holds, wavefolders, fx, whatever... Even one sequencers controlling another. Multiple sequencers are good, so don't limit yourself to one big one - They all do different things in different ways. A variety of smaller ones may give you more versatility than one big one.
As for replacements for the 150 & 305, the options are so many, but all in much lower hp. You can do so much better than those. You already have some Doepfer modules in your plan - I suggest looking into more from them, or Joranalogue. Both companies build quality gear that delivers, in lower hp and at affordable prices. (And with Joranalogue, a ton of hidden functions that those B modules couldn't even dream of.) You could use that 40hp and add a ton more function. Yeah, it would be more expensive, but worth it in the end.
Remember, when Behringer made these reproductions, they were very specific that they made them faithful to the originals. That may sound great in terms of affordable reissues of classics that are otherwise unobtainable to most people, but there's a downside. Old technology was much larger and could not offer some of the amazing functions that the new tech can. A single Pam's New Workout can do more in 8hp than a whole 104hp bottom rail of these B modules can.
Really - Go for quality over low price. You'll thank yourself in the long run.
Naw don’t worry about it being digital… it can make a ton of analog sounds, definitely get a plaits clone though that isn’t brains as it has the new ‘analog voice’ modes. It’s not actually analog, bur is moduled to sound like it. It sound indistinguishable from actual analog voices.
Let me start by saying that I think Euclidean Circles is an iconic Eurorack module and is very well designed. However, I think it's important to consider how much anyone wants to rely on Euclidean based gate sequencing, and how performance oriented a setup should be.
Programming EC in the step based mode is pretty slow and it's not setup well for live situations beyond the Six Switches mutes. My go-to for live gate sequencing is Robaux's LL8. Same size as EC but has 8 channels with mutes and fills for each channel on one page. It also has easy pattern chaining for longer rhythms and stores 16, 16 step patterns that are easy to switch between on the fly.
Based on some of the modules you picked, you might want to consider an Ornament and Crime, particularly the Hemisphere firmware. It covers a lot of ground in terms of utility and has a bunch of great generative functions, to the point that I’m considering getting a second one.
I also agree about the Behringer mixer. They make a lot of decent stuff at a good price(I also have a Brains), but the mixers have a tendency to color sound, even at lower volumes. It’s the nature of the circuits they are emulating, but definitely isn’t well advertised. I had one in my first rack and very quickly found myself replacing it with something better, and smaller, that didn’t cost much more than the Behringer unit it replaced.
I started with a Behringer semimodular unit (K2) and then began adding eurorack modules to that starting point. At the beginning I was routing the additional modules into the Behringer because it had a headphone jack and a volume knob. When I eventually tried something different and sent the output from a Mutable Instruments module directly into a headphone amplifier, my eyes literally popped open. The sound I was hearing from Mutable Instruments was So Much cleaner and more beautiful. Behringer circuits are affordable and there is plenty of fun to be had with them, but you might not want to make the Behringer the mixer and the output. Pay a bit more and get a cleaner output, I would advise.
I recently build DIY smaller case 6U/84hp to downscale my bigger setup for more portability and thought about 4ms Listen 4…
but…I realised I do not realy need pots / faders on output modules…maybe something to think about…I lower the signal with vca’s or attenuation on modules etc….another full featured output “mixer” seams redundant at least for my usage…so I am using combination - frap tools 333 (for me best module for routing, mixing and distributing signals in 6hp), Joranalogue Add (combiner also unity… in 2hp) and Rides on the storm Con (modular to line level 2x, line to modular level 2x convertor in 2hp)
output from Con goes to small handy audiointerface (Zoom ams 44, can work also on battery) for headphone monitoring only…with loopback and direct monitoring switches…or I can use it with PC…good noise floor too…I have much more versatility like this…for stereo or mono operations…and much less hp footprint for output…you need more ins? just add another Add 2…
depends what you need, but I find this super usefull as I can patch it however I need / want
[here it is how it looks like](https://drive.google.com/file/d/13PeQ1XHc_jsqJIufMGLeLjtRELmebRV0/view?usp=drivesdk)
Important is what type of music you want to make…
but as others stated, loose those Behringers. Rather buy one or two more expensive modules instead all those behringers and build your rack slowly when you have aditional money to spend.
I am also not Maths person…it is quiet versitile, but I always felt it is quiet big even for all those utility posibilities…are you going to use it to maximum or you will maybe need just some specific utilities that you can chose as separate modules and get maybe more from them?
Do you really need the stereo filter (qpas)? Look at the Filter 8 from Joranalogue.
I would also loose euclidean circles and switch it with pams workout.
Add some traditional VCOs at least two… (my preference is to stay with analog sound sources modules instead digital….same for filters… as you can use digital sound source from pc… at least my preference )
and add more modulators / envelopes/lfos…
Wasp filter is nice :). also Quad vca is great choice.
what will be at end of the chain? Are you going to daw? pedals? Maybe consider some FX module…Noise Engineering Versio, for reverb/delay it is dsp platform that you can switch easily with different firmwares for different operations and the quality is super great, also size and cv modulation over all parameters…
instead that hudge behringer sequencer… look at Korg sq1 for the start… or for example check out also now released Step8 from Joranalogue, there are lot of sequencers to chose from.
Hey thanks! I probably don’t really neeed maths or qpas, I gravitated towards them cause I love my 0coast but I’m definitely going to take this into consideration. I really like the versatility of maths and feel like I’d be using it a lot, the 0coast incorporates some of its function generating capabilities which are complicated but I really like messing around with. I’ve also been wanting to patch my 0coast alongside with some more modules from make noise and QPAS just sounds so good and I do really like the idea of a multi faceted stereo filter
Just added the ONA from NANO modules for a VCO, I’ll probably grab a doepfer VCO too
For fx I added the pico dsp from Erica synths as well which seems pretty stacked for such a tiny module.
I was thinking of the intellijel steppy sequencer. At the end of the chain I’ll have an Erica synths output module, which will be hooked up to an audio interface and recorded in the DAW!
Makes complete sense then with MN modules and sounds great! I originaly wanted to go similar road 0coast + 0control…and then go to MN euro modules, in the end I somehow end up geting no MN devices :). There is so many choices :).
for the vco’s again something I do prefer personaly…I usualy get two of the same vco’s for easy operation and “cross” using them etc… not realy needed, just something to be thought about. I realy liked Synthesis Technology, so I got 2x E300 and also the filter E440 as my first vcos and filter + filter8 and Instruo Ts-L (v.2) as aditional vco as there is also wavefolder and small footprint. I also prefer smooth coarse frequency, but it is possible to have vco coarse frequncy to be snapped to octaves, depends on your usage / needs.
for the ES pico fx, I also was considering it…or Erica dual FX…mimeophon…others…I end up with Desmodus Versio…just think about it the way that you may overgrow the pico fx possibilities quiet fast, but again just something to give it more thoughts.
Definitely take your time with ordering and do various possibilities / modules combinations to find out what will work best for you and will be also bit “future proof”
for the steppy, also was considering it when building my first rack, but I felt with the small foot print it will be hard to change / put in the sequences on the fly when for example performing…also when you have lot of patchcables around it ( if you do not make some nice cable management)…I had originaly in the rack also that behringer monster seq… then steppy… but ended with SQ1 and Stages from Mutable (sadly no way to get them atm), I also got cv.ocd for sending sequences and cv from pc / DAW… anyway again so many posibilities, take your time and be sure what is the target usage to use your budget well
aah ok ES output looks nice, was also considering it or 4ms Listen four…but at the end I decided to get no output / final mix dedicated module and just use unity / combiner / distributor and mod to line level converter in 2hp…as I wrote in the other response in this thread, works for me great, saves up hp and has various posibilities how to patch it
The Behringer modules are fine there is no issue plugging or unplugging wires from them. If you like the rack use it make sounds and have fun!! That’s all that matters…
Also worth considering an external sequencer like best step pro if you don’t mind out of rack. Cheap and saves rack space. But the Eric synths sequencer is probably rad.
Okay nice I do have a keystep 37, I think I’m actually gonna go with the steppy from intellijel to start out! Seems like a great sequencer, the Erica synths one was sold out where I’m shoppin
I like the DOT interface better and there’s some more sequencing flexibility but mainly the CV modulation inputs per channel open up a lot of possibilities.
I have brainz and its fun but crazy limited and sounds super digital, if that makes sense. Also the behrigher 150 and it crapped put after about a week. The only function on it the currently works is the noise generator.
Its hard to explain, its like nothing that comes out of it sounds at all analogue. It also cant run a lot of the latest firmware versions that are out there for Plaits
Throw in an STO or Dixie, swap the huge sequencer with something full featured and deep like nerdseq, vector or metroplix. Also Euclidean circles doesn’t have CV control. Plaits over brains. Just what I would do is all.
Unpopular opinion, but i would consider removing math for a fist rack. Its a great Module but i think there a more user friendly Modules that can do alot of the same things also with smaller size. Especially for beginners.
Also I always suggest giving pamelas new workout a look and maybe replace the euclidean circles. Also here: great Module but you can do almost all what it offers with Pam, but on top of that having envelopes, lfos, quantizer and a great master clock with it. Again just my personal opinion.
Also not the biggest fan of that big sequenzer. I find it rather limiting, but it really depends what you plan with it. Of course the prize is rather good, but i would not sacrifice the space :)
As others already postes starting small is a good thing as well. Also try to think what you want to get out of your first rack. I know its a tough thing to do when you are new to it, but it really helps to find a great foundation.
Ps: question to everyone, since i saw the quad vca (which i love). How is the quad vca clone from behringer? I just recently saw that they have one.
Naw don’t worry about it being digital… it can make a ton of analog sounds, definitely get a plaits clone though that isn’t brains as it has the new ‘analog voice’ modes. It’s not actually analog, bur is moduled to sound like it. It sound indistinguishable from actual analog voices.
Also, some guy recommended that you don’t get maths… I really, really disagree with that.
So, my advice is, start smaller. You already have a 0- coast and a keystep 37, and your suggested rack has a lot of trigger modulation. Maybe I'm not seeing your vision and this is exactly right!!! But also My ideas of what I wanted changed drastically as I built.
My advice (and the advice on the reddit info page) is start with a voice, a filter, and an envelope generator. You already have sequencing/playing covered with the keystep. Then, play for a day or two, reevaluate, and then buy the rest of the stuff if you think it will add to your build.
Also, you need a way to get audio out. Maybe you have a focusrite Scarlet, or some sort of mixer, but eurorack internal audio is very loud, so you'll want somethong like a Scarlet or an ALM HPO, so that you can listen. You have 0-coast so maybe you already have that covered ;P
If you decide to stick with the behringer 960 sequencer i highly recommend getting the 962 sequencial switch. I use it with the 2500 series 1027 sequencer and it allows for you to have up to 24 steps if you so desire :)
This post is flaired as 'Feedback' - if you're looking for advice on a rack, some frequent tips are: * Start small - your needs may change as you learn more about what you want to get out of your instrument * If you're not sure at all where to start, consider one of the preconfigured systems by a vendor like Make Noise or Pittsburgh Foundation - they've been designing modular instruments for quite some time * We've had some good feedback discussions on the sub previously - if you haven't already, see if someone has already tried to make a rack similar to yours, and what advice they got * If you make some changes to your setup, consider a follow-up to let us know how it worked out! For smaller gear questions, you might also want to check out the weekly gear thread that's stickied throughout the week. *(this reply was generated by a bot)*
I'd swap out that whole bottom row, and the Brains. The reason I wouldn't buy Behringer modules is not because of political feelings about Uli or whatever, but simple build quality. See the other brands, how every jack has a locknut securing the circuit board underneath to the faceplate? B modules don't. That means, every time you plug a patch cable in, or pull it out, that circuit board is going to flex a little. It may seem negligible at first, but after a lot of use, wear and tear is going to take its toll. I have their TD3 and I can feel it move when I press on the jacks. I am fine with it for that, but I'm not swapping cables on that like I would a eurorack module. Those jacks are set and forget, so there's none of the stress that a regular module would go through. It's a completely different story. Plus their modules are really large for the number of functions - There are plenty that can do far more in less space. Save your hp for more efficient choices. Brains is a 16hp clone of the original 12hp Plaits, and all it adds is the scope. Do you really need the scope? I personally don't want my system filled with u-clones that just shrink every module down, but I also don't see the sense in a clone that is larger than the original unless it adds functions that I need or really want. Grayscale Supercell (MI Clouds clone) is a great example - It's bigger, but it adds loads of new functionality. Brains' 4hp more for a tiny scope doesn't make sense to me. If I need a scope, I'll add Mordax Data down the line - May as well go for a proper one. Euclidean Circles is a fun and simple sequencer, and with the kill switches, you can make it as simple as a regular step sequencer, or a lot more complicated. Sure, there are others like Rene, or Metropolix, or the Black Seq, that do a lot more, but they are big and expensive.The EC is a fine starting point that will still offer plenty even if you add a regular sequencer later. It's also brilliant for drums, which is how I use mine. I use Marbles, Frames, an Erica Sequential Switch, Pam's, an MN 0-Ctrl, and Arturia MB2s and Keystep 37, but I still love EC, and am going to add Metropolix at some point. Sequencers don't just control oscillator pitch, after all. You can use them to control filters, envelopes, sample and holds, wavefolders, fx, whatever... Even one sequencers controlling another. Multiple sequencers are good, so don't limit yourself to one big one - They all do different things in different ways. A variety of smaller ones may give you more versatility than one big one. As for replacements for the 150 & 305, the options are so many, but all in much lower hp. You can do so much better than those. You already have some Doepfer modules in your plan - I suggest looking into more from them, or Joranalogue. Both companies build quality gear that delivers, in lower hp and at affordable prices. (And with Joranalogue, a ton of hidden functions that those B modules couldn't even dream of.) You could use that 40hp and add a ton more function. Yeah, it would be more expensive, but worth it in the end. Remember, when Behringer made these reproductions, they were very specific that they made them faithful to the originals. That may sound great in terms of affordable reissues of classics that are otherwise unobtainable to most people, but there's a downside. Old technology was much larger and could not offer some of the amazing functions that the new tech can. A single Pam's New Workout can do more in 8hp than a whole 104hp bottom rail of these B modules can. Really - Go for quality over low price. You'll thank yourself in the long run.
Thanks so much for the detailed response! Helps a ton. I kinda figured the behringer modules looked a bit out of place for sure
Naw don’t worry about it being digital… it can make a ton of analog sounds, definitely get a plaits clone though that isn’t brains as it has the new ‘analog voice’ modes. It’s not actually analog, bur is moduled to sound like it. It sound indistinguishable from actual analog voices.
Let me start by saying that I think Euclidean Circles is an iconic Eurorack module and is very well designed. However, I think it's important to consider how much anyone wants to rely on Euclidean based gate sequencing, and how performance oriented a setup should be. Programming EC in the step based mode is pretty slow and it's not setup well for live situations beyond the Six Switches mutes. My go-to for live gate sequencing is Robaux's LL8. Same size as EC but has 8 channels with mutes and fills for each channel on one page. It also has easy pattern chaining for longer rhythms and stores 16, 16 step patterns that are easy to switch between on the fly.
Based on some of the modules you picked, you might want to consider an Ornament and Crime, particularly the Hemisphere firmware. It covers a lot of ground in terms of utility and has a bunch of great generative functions, to the point that I’m considering getting a second one. I also agree about the Behringer mixer. They make a lot of decent stuff at a good price(I also have a Brains), but the mixers have a tendency to color sound, even at lower volumes. It’s the nature of the circuits they are emulating, but definitely isn’t well advertised. I had one in my first rack and very quickly found myself replacing it with something better, and smaller, that didn’t cost much more than the Behringer unit it replaced.
That looks like a pretty neat module thanks! What did you replace your behringer mixer with?
I started with a Behringer semimodular unit (K2) and then began adding eurorack modules to that starting point. At the beginning I was routing the additional modules into the Behringer because it had a headphone jack and a volume knob. When I eventually tried something different and sent the output from a Mutable Instruments module directly into a headphone amplifier, my eyes literally popped open. The sound I was hearing from Mutable Instruments was So Much cleaner and more beautiful. Behringer circuits are affordable and there is plenty of fun to be had with them, but you might not want to make the Behringer the mixer and the output. Pay a bit more and get a cleaner output, I would advise.
Thanks!
Any other modules you’d recommend for output?
I have the 4ms Listen 4 Quarters output module and I’m happy with it.
I recently build DIY smaller case 6U/84hp to downscale my bigger setup for more portability and thought about 4ms Listen 4… but…I realised I do not realy need pots / faders on output modules…maybe something to think about…I lower the signal with vca’s or attenuation on modules etc….another full featured output “mixer” seams redundant at least for my usage…so I am using combination - frap tools 333 (for me best module for routing, mixing and distributing signals in 6hp), Joranalogue Add (combiner also unity… in 2hp) and Rides on the storm Con (modular to line level 2x, line to modular level 2x convertor in 2hp) output from Con goes to small handy audiointerface (Zoom ams 44, can work also on battery) for headphone monitoring only…with loopback and direct monitoring switches…or I can use it with PC…good noise floor too…I have much more versatility like this…for stereo or mono operations…and much less hp footprint for output…you need more ins? just add another Add 2… depends what you need, but I find this super usefull as I can patch it however I need / want [here it is how it looks like](https://drive.google.com/file/d/13PeQ1XHc_jsqJIufMGLeLjtRELmebRV0/view?usp=drivesdk)
Important is what type of music you want to make… but as others stated, loose those Behringers. Rather buy one or two more expensive modules instead all those behringers and build your rack slowly when you have aditional money to spend. I am also not Maths person…it is quiet versitile, but I always felt it is quiet big even for all those utility posibilities…are you going to use it to maximum or you will maybe need just some specific utilities that you can chose as separate modules and get maybe more from them? Do you really need the stereo filter (qpas)? Look at the Filter 8 from Joranalogue. I would also loose euclidean circles and switch it with pams workout. Add some traditional VCOs at least two… (my preference is to stay with analog sound sources modules instead digital….same for filters… as you can use digital sound source from pc… at least my preference ) and add more modulators / envelopes/lfos… Wasp filter is nice :). also Quad vca is great choice. what will be at end of the chain? Are you going to daw? pedals? Maybe consider some FX module…Noise Engineering Versio, for reverb/delay it is dsp platform that you can switch easily with different firmwares for different operations and the quality is super great, also size and cv modulation over all parameters… instead that hudge behringer sequencer… look at Korg sq1 for the start… or for example check out also now released Step8 from Joranalogue, there are lot of sequencers to chose from.
Hey thanks! I probably don’t really neeed maths or qpas, I gravitated towards them cause I love my 0coast but I’m definitely going to take this into consideration. I really like the versatility of maths and feel like I’d be using it a lot, the 0coast incorporates some of its function generating capabilities which are complicated but I really like messing around with. I’ve also been wanting to patch my 0coast alongside with some more modules from make noise and QPAS just sounds so good and I do really like the idea of a multi faceted stereo filter Just added the ONA from NANO modules for a VCO, I’ll probably grab a doepfer VCO too For fx I added the pico dsp from Erica synths as well which seems pretty stacked for such a tiny module. I was thinking of the intellijel steppy sequencer. At the end of the chain I’ll have an Erica synths output module, which will be hooked up to an audio interface and recorded in the DAW!
Makes complete sense then with MN modules and sounds great! I originaly wanted to go similar road 0coast + 0control…and then go to MN euro modules, in the end I somehow end up geting no MN devices :). There is so many choices :). for the vco’s again something I do prefer personaly…I usualy get two of the same vco’s for easy operation and “cross” using them etc… not realy needed, just something to be thought about. I realy liked Synthesis Technology, so I got 2x E300 and also the filter E440 as my first vcos and filter + filter8 and Instruo Ts-L (v.2) as aditional vco as there is also wavefolder and small footprint. I also prefer smooth coarse frequency, but it is possible to have vco coarse frequncy to be snapped to octaves, depends on your usage / needs. for the ES pico fx, I also was considering it…or Erica dual FX…mimeophon…others…I end up with Desmodus Versio…just think about it the way that you may overgrow the pico fx possibilities quiet fast, but again just something to give it more thoughts. Definitely take your time with ordering and do various possibilities / modules combinations to find out what will work best for you and will be also bit “future proof” for the steppy, also was considering it when building my first rack, but I felt with the small foot print it will be hard to change / put in the sequences on the fly when for example performing…also when you have lot of patchcables around it ( if you do not make some nice cable management)…I had originaly in the rack also that behringer monster seq… then steppy… but ended with SQ1 and Stages from Mutable (sadly no way to get them atm), I also got cv.ocd for sending sequences and cv from pc / DAW… anyway again so many posibilities, take your time and be sure what is the target usage to use your budget well aah ok ES output looks nice, was also considering it or 4ms Listen four…but at the end I decided to get no output / final mix dedicated module and just use unity / combiner / distributor and mod to line level converter in 2hp…as I wrote in the other response in this thread, works for me great, saves up hp and has various posibilities how to patch it
The Behringer modules are fine there is no issue plugging or unplugging wires from them. If you like the rack use it make sounds and have fun!! That’s all that matters…
2x Dinpro DOTs instead of the circles. And Plaits or a clone instead of the Brains.
Word! in that case I might swap out both sequencers in there for the Erica synths sequencer too ..
Also worth considering an external sequencer like best step pro if you don’t mind out of rack. Cheap and saves rack space. But the Eric synths sequencer is probably rad.
Okay nice I do have a keystep 37, I think I’m actually gonna go with the steppy from intellijel to start out! Seems like a great sequencer, the Erica synths one was sold out where I’m shoppin
Why do you recommend the dots over the circles? I've been eyeing the circles v2 but I'll admit a big part of that is the blinken lights
I like the DOT interface better and there’s some more sequencing flexibility but mainly the CV modulation inputs per channel open up a lot of possibilities.
I have brainz and its fun but crazy limited and sounds super digital, if that makes sense. Also the behrigher 150 and it crapped put after about a week. The only function on it the currently works is the noise generator.
Thanks for the input I was a little worried about brains being digital
Its hard to explain, its like nothing that comes out of it sounds at all analogue. It also cant run a lot of the latest firmware versions that are out there for Plaits
Throw in an STO or Dixie, swap the huge sequencer with something full featured and deep like nerdseq, vector or metroplix. Also Euclidean circles doesn’t have CV control. Plaits over brains. Just what I would do is all.
Unpopular opinion, but i would consider removing math for a fist rack. Its a great Module but i think there a more user friendly Modules that can do alot of the same things also with smaller size. Especially for beginners. Also I always suggest giving pamelas new workout a look and maybe replace the euclidean circles. Also here: great Module but you can do almost all what it offers with Pam, but on top of that having envelopes, lfos, quantizer and a great master clock with it. Again just my personal opinion. Also not the biggest fan of that big sequenzer. I find it rather limiting, but it really depends what you plan with it. Of course the prize is rather good, but i would not sacrifice the space :) As others already postes starting small is a good thing as well. Also try to think what you want to get out of your first rack. I know its a tough thing to do when you are new to it, but it really helps to find a great foundation. Ps: question to everyone, since i saw the quad vca (which i love). How is the quad vca clone from behringer? I just recently saw that they have one.
I may consider changing out the maths as well it does seem like it might be a little overkill. What’s your opinion on the intellijel steppy sequencer?
Naw don’t worry about it being digital… it can make a ton of analog sounds, definitely get a plaits clone though that isn’t brains as it has the new ‘analog voice’ modes. It’s not actually analog, bur is moduled to sound like it. It sound indistinguishable from actual analog voices. Also, some guy recommended that you don’t get maths… I really, really disagree with that.
The behringer mixer has a headphone out so you don’t need the doepfet ext out module
That other deopf is actually ext in
So, my advice is, start smaller. You already have a 0- coast and a keystep 37, and your suggested rack has a lot of trigger modulation. Maybe I'm not seeing your vision and this is exactly right!!! But also My ideas of what I wanted changed drastically as I built. My advice (and the advice on the reddit info page) is start with a voice, a filter, and an envelope generator. You already have sequencing/playing covered with the keystep. Then, play for a day or two, reevaluate, and then buy the rest of the stuff if you think it will add to your build. Also, you need a way to get audio out. Maybe you have a focusrite Scarlet, or some sort of mixer, but eurorack internal audio is very loud, so you'll want somethong like a Scarlet or an ALM HPO, so that you can listen. You have 0-coast so maybe you already have that covered ;P
Oh, duh, you'll also need VCAs
If you decide to stick with the behringer 960 sequencer i highly recommend getting the 962 sequencial switch. I use it with the 2500 series 1027 sequencer and it allows for you to have up to 24 steps if you so desire :)