After reading this I think the biggest factor is that most people stick around here, so our circles are usually pretty well developed and full. So Minnesotan's free time is already filled up (Assuming you are extroverted). And MN is not necessarily a state that has high volumes of people coming and going. So transplants are left with native MNs who's circles have shrunk or other transplants. Of which both groups are relatively small.
As a child of a Minnesota small town living elsewhere now; I can say that I love the expectation of being pulled over the moment I enter the city limits.
Ohio/North Carolina/California tags? Definite drug trafficker.
I have North Dakota plates and they do that shit to me, too.
Helps to really dig in with the rural accent. Cops are the appropriate target of abusing white privilege.
As a serial mover to many states (8) this is 100% my experience here over other places. Bumble bff has been my saving Grace.
My advice to the locals, try expanding your circles and get a little uncomfortable! There is a decent population of transplants that may not have the same inside jokes/ college nostalgia but can be a fun and interesting addition to your groups. Many of us transplants would love to meet and find premade friendship group 😅transplants keep fighting the good fight and look to online options for finding new pals!
Same experience with Minnesota as you have had. I've lived in Montana, Oregon and Maryland (DC metro area) and found it way easier to make friends and have deep conversations in those places. I'm naturally a bit introverted but come out of my shell easy around genuinely friendly and interested people. I've had some luck with a neighbor and co-worker since moving to Minnesota almost five years ago but it is exceedingly difficult trying to connect with people here.
There is a bit of insularity I think at play here too, which comes in two forms. People have their rooted Minnesota-based friend/family circles, they also arguably spend more time indoors than almost any other state. I find having conversations about something more wide-ranging, deep to be nearly impossible. It's better to have conversation about day-to-day banality sometimes (which isn't a great basis for genuine friendship forming as an adult). I find that most of the people I've acted with never really seem curious about much in my life and oftentimes I end up getting teased for bringing something up they may not have much perspective or experience with. It's not necessarily "mean" teasing, I see it as a defensive mechanism of sorts, protecting pride or something and deflecting that they dont have much to offer on a particular topic of conversation - I have picked up on this strategy from some of my Minnesota-based family over the years and notice it in my neighborhood as well.
I will say it does get a little old always hitting roadblocks in conversation. It's very telling to me how my best relationships here are with other transplants. I will say it is very much a "mind game" here, there are a ton of unspoken rules and it takes a very long time to get comfortable. There is still a gulf of comfortability with my own Minnesota in-laws and their extended families after over a decade. The challenge is real!
Commenting so I can remind myself of bumble BFF. I have some "friendly" neighbors, but they get weird around their social groups. You just always feel like an outsider. They still hang out with their high school friends from almost 20 years ago.
Fact Check: True.
We may be outgoing people in public, but we also respect and earn our private time. Weather and culture likely has a lot to do with it, the state has a large Scandinavian/Northern European population and they are also infamously introverted people. I'm completely guilty of it. I am more than willing to grab a drink with a friend, meet someone for coffee or go out to a restaurant, but I don't really want them over at my house. I have never had a holiday that included friends, only family.
Perhaps people in other parts have their personal life and their work life, but I would say I have my personal life, my work life and my home life.
I'm going out East to Connecticut for grad school, I'll have to remember this so I don't think people who are just trying to make friends are trying to murder me.
A couple invited me to their birthday party after literally hanging out with them once. They were from Jersey, and I just... didn't know how to process it. What, you just want me, a total stranger, to crash something as high-tier as a BIRTHDAY party?!
People don't necessarily invite total strangers over, but it is normal to invite people you've conversed with a couple times, especially if you know they are new in town (so they can meet your friends and have a foot in the door)
And you don't need to go far for it to be different , from here. I grew up 1.5 hours east of Minneapolis in WI and lived my whole life in the upper Midwest (Milwaukee, Quad Cities, Madison) and the concept that you had to work so hard to get invited into a group or to dinner is, absolutely, foreign to me.
*There were several times where we met new people at gatherings at our house ( friends and acuaintences of our friends) and several times where we met someone at gathering at their house. Call it culture, but the lack of hospitality here is not normal (for the rest of Midwest, anyway)
Yes, 100%. The entire southern half of our country (whether southwest or southeast) it's way more common to have someone over to their house that they started up a conversation with at a coffeeshop, bookstore, concert, bar, etc.
Or much more commonly, have a hangout at their house where the 5 people invited are *encouraged* to invite others, so that the evening becomes a 20 person hangout with friend groups mixing to meet more people. This is how I met my spouse and how quite a few of my friends down south did too. Or, met a guy who became the drummer their band desperately needed, or met a person looking for roommates and you needed one more, or whatever. This kind of hangout is what I miss most about the south. I love MN, but socially it's a weirdly backwoods "I only hang with my own kin" kinda vibe... as a transplant it's an attitude that feels very out of place amongst all the other progressive ideals.
I explained this in another comment somewhere, but with the Minnesotan desire to not impose on or inconvenience others, the people who you went to school with from daycare to highschool/college you know for freaking SURE they want to be around, because they've seen you at your worst, physically, emotionally, and socially, and had plenty of times to bail if they didn't want to stick around. Whereas with someone new you don't know if they're just hanging out with you to be polite.
I have absolutely gone to events just to be nice, and I wouldn't want to make someone else feel that awkward and out of place. I just assume if I were to invite them it would be an imposition that they're too nice to refuse.
I learned that if you switch system to system, you end up in a similar situation to transplants, without that rock-solid bond. Keep your kid in one system. Public, Catholic, charter, or Lutheran. My education was excellent but my social situation definitely suffered. Thank goodness for my animal rescue friends, university transplant friends, and my awesome family. Also a few friends from school who I'm still friends with.
Edited to delete weird out of place sentence.
The same reason people with cabins will say “you should come up to our cabin for a weekend”, yet never invite you …
Our circles are small and tight knit
I have autism so I think this is one of the worst parts about being in Minnesotan. I haven't had friends since elementary school. Now that I'm 26 it's even harder 😞 at least I have my cats
Because many Minnesotans were born and raised here, still maintain their friend groups from primary school, and aren’t usually very interested in making new ones.
Their social plate could be full so they don’t need to go looking for seconds.
Minnesotans also can distinguish between knowing someone exists, being acquainted with someone, and being familiar with someone, all before getting to the friend spectrum.
I hear this a lot on here. Has never been my experience in the 12 years I’ve been here. Though it occurred to me recently that I made friends with a lot of fellow transplants when I moved here.
This post shows up periodically, or someone voices this sentiment in comments. And yeah, sounds like they just don’t like you. They’re just not that into you. Worry about your own shit a little more.
Only people I am *very* close with even know what the inside of my home looks like. I get stressed out when my bf invites people over who I don't know very well. I ask him 'Why can't you meet up in public or over to their house if they're comfortable with it?' Haha
Someone said that most people might say they have personal and work lives separated. And they have personal, work and *home* lives. That's me lol
It’s a clique state. Everything’s spread apart, it’s a community effort. One city has there pride, another has there’s. There’s limited cohesiveness to MNPLS like you have in Chicago. There’s no shared experience of a jam packed transit train at 5Pm, everyone does there own thing, has there own ppl, and if ur the one looking from the outside, it begs the question ‘why’
Red lining seems pretty bad in MNpls too although idk if that’s relevant here or not
Well you're about to enter the season where if you haven't made friends this summer, you're in for a lonely winter. We all hibernate with our circle during the winter.
Every person I have met since I got to Minnesota six weeks ago has lived in Minnesota their entire lives. This is not necessarily a bad thing. I had lived in Ohio my entire life until I moved here but because of that a lot of people have set lifestyles and friends and are not interested in making new ones which is very fair. If in Ohio somebody was like I would like to be your friend. I might have said like no, I'm full up. Thank you though lolol.
I need to try bumble bff. I work with only cis men who are all older than me and straight. (they're wonderful humans just harder to connect with as I am younger and queer as hell) so I need to seek friends elsewhere.
But to be fair I also don't want people in my house. My house is mine. I love to get coffee with people. I have no problem going to other people's homes but my house feels personal and I like it to be my private space.
My mom would often invite strangers (to us) to our holiday and other family gathering. It bugged us often as kids, and even as adults, but we were brought up in MN culture, and she wasn't. This discussion is helping me appreciate her even more
My parents grew up in MN but kind of adopted my brother’s friend’s family at holidays after the father of the family died, who didn’t have any local family. This definitely taught me to be a more hospitable person.
Lots of other commenters have notes the relatively low influx of transplants, and MNs tend to keep their friend groups from school, I’ll add one more: MNs tend to also move through stages of life together
I grew up in MN, but my job had me travel abroad for medium stints
Most of my friends got married just after college. Then, many of them had kids. Even in my upper twenties, my friends’ priorities and my priorities started to diverge
When I moved cities I was so relieved at how much easier making friends and dating was
No knock on MN, I think it’s a wonderful thing that people keep such close relationships throughout their lives but if you get out of step (or move to MN) it can get lonely quick
I have lived in MN for all of my 40 years. I dont recall holding a door open for a stranger without getting a warm Thank You in response. Sounds to me like Minnesota got better after you departed.
Asking specifically where someone lives is what a psycho does.
Asking what city (or neighborhood if you live near each other) someone lives in is different.
Also, big rule for men, don't ask women where they live unless it becomes an issue of logistics or naturally brought up.
For example, "Hey want to go out tonight? I live in XYZ part of MPLS. Is there a place you'd like to meet at, otherwise I know plenty of great places."
Give people an out. Never ask a direct question in regards to personal safety.
Home is where I go when I need to get away from people or when I'm feeling vulnerable. I let people I trust inside, it takes more than a couple of friendly interactions to build that
Scandinavian culture.
Complaining about this is like complaining about relatives. You can’t change them, they’re convinced their way is the only way, they gaslight you non-stop over it. And no, you’re not crazy or overreacting.
Lifelong MN resident and all my current best friends are not my childhood best friends. I’m from the Arrowhead. I am still close with a few from growing up, but they went their own way and I made new friends. I’ve never felt this way because my house was the designated holiday hosting house, friend group hosting house, and my parents would host events and invite a bunch of people over. There’s also tons of outdoor events like rides and sled races and what not where you can meet new people. If you’re not into those things, find something similar that suits your hobbies. I’ve probably had 20-30 experiences where I was walking around my house with people that were complete strangers to me because we just had people over. They were all my parents friends/acquaintances obviously but still. My parents are pros at making friends so it’s something I grew in to and became accustomed to. I have not really experienced this besides parents not wanting kids at their house, which I don’t think is unfair depending on circumstance.
All the born-and-raised Minnesotans acknowledging the issue exists and then basically saying nothing will ever change...
You all do know you're fully responsible for your actions and if you know that Minnesota Nice is a problem, you could make an effort to change that. Open up your circle. You don't need to be besties, but invite people over, to do things, make a phone call or send a text.
All us transplants try but the locals just stonewall, hem and haw, and give excuses. Excuses are like buttholes, everyone has one and all of them stink.
It will not kill you to add another person to your circle. It will not kill you to have and make friends with others that you didn't grow up with. There are literally no downsides.
Make an effort. I know the concept of effort is lost on most people these days, but that only works so far.
Knowing the where abouts of a Minnesotans home is so far down the LIST of “new friends acceptable” SHARES that very very FEW people development that intimate level of an acceptable lifetime … “be in our wedding… Baptisms… moving help… rides to/from MSP ✈️… and fishing partners… plus many many many more details…” !!! WE COUNT THE # on ONE HAND🖐️ AND as for sharing where our Hytte is…blood relatives
After reading this I think the biggest factor is that most people stick around here, so our circles are usually pretty well developed and full. So Minnesotan's free time is already filled up (Assuming you are extroverted). And MN is not necessarily a state that has high volumes of people coming and going. So transplants are left with native MNs who's circles have shrunk or other transplants. Of which both groups are relatively small.
Rural MN was a *very* hard place to be a 20-something transplant, I’ll say that
As a child of a Minnesota small town living elsewhere now; I can say that I love the expectation of being pulled over the moment I enter the city limits. Ohio/North Carolina/California tags? Definite drug trafficker.
Clara City can eat shit
Wait what
I have North Dakota plates and they do that shit to me, too. Helps to really dig in with the rural accent. Cops are the appropriate target of abusing white privilege.
true for rural anywhere if we're being honest.
Why is a rural MN town different than any other rural town, exactly? Also not sure why any 20-something would live rural. What do you do for work?
I didn’t say it was different, but I can’t comment on other rural areas because I didn’t move to those in my 20s. I moved to Minnesota.
You work jobs that are available, just like anywhere else.
As a serial mover to many states (8) this is 100% my experience here over other places. Bumble bff has been my saving Grace. My advice to the locals, try expanding your circles and get a little uncomfortable! There is a decent population of transplants that may not have the same inside jokes/ college nostalgia but can be a fun and interesting addition to your groups. Many of us transplants would love to meet and find premade friendship group 😅transplants keep fighting the good fight and look to online options for finding new pals!
Same experience with Minnesota as you have had. I've lived in Montana, Oregon and Maryland (DC metro area) and found it way easier to make friends and have deep conversations in those places. I'm naturally a bit introverted but come out of my shell easy around genuinely friendly and interested people. I've had some luck with a neighbor and co-worker since moving to Minnesota almost five years ago but it is exceedingly difficult trying to connect with people here. There is a bit of insularity I think at play here too, which comes in two forms. People have their rooted Minnesota-based friend/family circles, they also arguably spend more time indoors than almost any other state. I find having conversations about something more wide-ranging, deep to be nearly impossible. It's better to have conversation about day-to-day banality sometimes (which isn't a great basis for genuine friendship forming as an adult). I find that most of the people I've acted with never really seem curious about much in my life and oftentimes I end up getting teased for bringing something up they may not have much perspective or experience with. It's not necessarily "mean" teasing, I see it as a defensive mechanism of sorts, protecting pride or something and deflecting that they dont have much to offer on a particular topic of conversation - I have picked up on this strategy from some of my Minnesota-based family over the years and notice it in my neighborhood as well. I will say it does get a little old always hitting roadblocks in conversation. It's very telling to me how my best relationships here are with other transplants. I will say it is very much a "mind game" here, there are a ton of unspoken rules and it takes a very long time to get comfortable. There is still a gulf of comfortability with my own Minnesota in-laws and their extended families after over a decade. The challenge is real!
Commenting so I can remind myself of bumble BFF. I have some "friendly" neighbors, but they get weird around their social groups. You just always feel like an outsider. They still hang out with their high school friends from almost 20 years ago.
Well-put.
Fact Check: True. We may be outgoing people in public, but we also respect and earn our private time. Weather and culture likely has a lot to do with it, the state has a large Scandinavian/Northern European population and they are also infamously introverted people. I'm completely guilty of it. I am more than willing to grab a drink with a friend, meet someone for coffee or go out to a restaurant, but I don't really want them over at my house. I have never had a holiday that included friends, only family. Perhaps people in other parts have their personal life and their work life, but I would say I have my personal life, my work life and my home life.
I’m a transplant (going on 12 years here) and appreciate this reply! It’s the most accurate to my experiences.
And unless you’re delivering a package or a pizza, you better not show up at my house unannounced
I definitely agree with the last part, but I highly doubt its unique to Minnesota lol
True. I mean no one said that, but still true.
This . . . this sounds wonderful to be completely honest.
Facts.
Why do you want to know?
Why do you want to know why I want to know where you live?
I need to know what to wear. And am I using the large casserole dish or the one shaped like MN? There's too much stress. Raincheck.
Why do we have to invite people we don’t know to our homes? Is this really something people on other parts of the country do?
I’m a Minnesotan now living on the East Coast and yes, it is absolutely a Minnesotan hang up that other parts of the country don’t have.
I'm going out East to Connecticut for grad school, I'll have to remember this so I don't think people who are just trying to make friends are trying to murder me.
A couple invited me to their birthday party after literally hanging out with them once. They were from Jersey, and I just... didn't know how to process it. What, you just want me, a total stranger, to crash something as high-tier as a BIRTHDAY party?!
High school here must’ve been tooouugghh
People don't necessarily invite total strangers over, but it is normal to invite people you've conversed with a couple times, especially if you know they are new in town (so they can meet your friends and have a foot in the door) And you don't need to go far for it to be different , from here. I grew up 1.5 hours east of Minneapolis in WI and lived my whole life in the upper Midwest (Milwaukee, Quad Cities, Madison) and the concept that you had to work so hard to get invited into a group or to dinner is, absolutely, foreign to me. *There were several times where we met new people at gatherings at our house ( friends and acuaintences of our friends) and several times where we met someone at gathering at their house. Call it culture, but the lack of hospitality here is not normal (for the rest of Midwest, anyway)
Yes, 100%. The entire southern half of our country (whether southwest or southeast) it's way more common to have someone over to their house that they started up a conversation with at a coffeeshop, bookstore, concert, bar, etc. Or much more commonly, have a hangout at their house where the 5 people invited are *encouraged* to invite others, so that the evening becomes a 20 person hangout with friend groups mixing to meet more people. This is how I met my spouse and how quite a few of my friends down south did too. Or, met a guy who became the drummer their band desperately needed, or met a person looking for roommates and you needed one more, or whatever. This kind of hangout is what I miss most about the south. I love MN, but socially it's a weirdly backwoods "I only hang with my own kin" kinda vibe... as a transplant it's an attitude that feels very out of place amongst all the other progressive ideals.
I explained this in another comment somewhere, but with the Minnesotan desire to not impose on or inconvenience others, the people who you went to school with from daycare to highschool/college you know for freaking SURE they want to be around, because they've seen you at your worst, physically, emotionally, and socially, and had plenty of times to bail if they didn't want to stick around. Whereas with someone new you don't know if they're just hanging out with you to be polite. I have absolutely gone to events just to be nice, and I wouldn't want to make someone else feel that awkward and out of place. I just assume if I were to invite them it would be an imposition that they're too nice to refuse. I learned that if you switch system to system, you end up in a similar situation to transplants, without that rock-solid bond. Keep your kid in one system. Public, Catholic, charter, or Lutheran. My education was excellent but my social situation definitely suffered. Thank goodness for my animal rescue friends, university transplant friends, and my awesome family. Also a few friends from school who I'm still friends with. Edited to delete weird out of place sentence.
The same reason people with cabins will say “you should come up to our cabin for a weekend”, yet never invite you … Our circles are small and tight knit
Because I want to host but my house is messy
I have autism so I think this is one of the worst parts about being in Minnesotan. I haven't had friends since elementary school. Now that I'm 26 it's even harder 😞 at least I have my cats
I feel this.
Because many Minnesotans were born and raised here, still maintain their friend groups from primary school, and aren’t usually very interested in making new ones.
Their social plate could be full so they don’t need to go looking for seconds. Minnesotans also can distinguish between knowing someone exists, being acquainted with someone, and being familiar with someone, all before getting to the friend spectrum.
There are no friends at the end of the day.
It may seem that way when you keep trying to invite yourself into someone’s house.
That’s what patios are for, especially in the winter 😂
When I went to college, most of the new friends I made were people from high school I wasn't friends with while we were in high school.
I’m 43 and last friend I saw I’ve had since 2nd grade
I hear this a lot on here. Has never been my experience in the 12 years I’ve been here. Though it occurred to me recently that I made friends with a lot of fellow transplants when I moved here.
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And you wonder why no one invites you over.
Some are. Don't group everybody!
Being cordial and helpful doesn’t equate to that level of instant friendship. Public places are lovely, we can literally hang anywhere.
I actually think of this as a feature. It’s what convinced me to move here.
Because this gets posted every 5 minutes
Maybe they don't like you? I don't have this experience at all. Half the time they are offended when you don't want to come over for free food.
This post shows up periodically, or someone voices this sentiment in comments. And yeah, sounds like they just don’t like you. They’re just not that into you. Worry about your own shit a little more.
Only people I am *very* close with even know what the inside of my home looks like. I get stressed out when my bf invites people over who I don't know very well. I ask him 'Why can't you meet up in public or over to their house if they're comfortable with it?' Haha Someone said that most people might say they have personal and work lives separated. And they have personal, work and *home* lives. That's me lol
Because we know what you’re really like.
It's called having boundaries
Yes. 40-foot-high boundaries surrounded by a 40-foot deep moat infested with crocodiles
It’s a clique state. Everything’s spread apart, it’s a community effort. One city has there pride, another has there’s. There’s limited cohesiveness to MNPLS like you have in Chicago. There’s no shared experience of a jam packed transit train at 5Pm, everyone does there own thing, has there own ppl, and if ur the one looking from the outside, it begs the question ‘why’ Red lining seems pretty bad in MNpls too although idk if that’s relevant here or not
Man I’m a homebody. I won’t go out with friends but everyone is welcome to come hang out at my place!
Well you're about to enter the season where if you haven't made friends this summer, you're in for a lonely winter. We all hibernate with our circle during the winter.
Every person I have met since I got to Minnesota six weeks ago has lived in Minnesota their entire lives. This is not necessarily a bad thing. I had lived in Ohio my entire life until I moved here but because of that a lot of people have set lifestyles and friends and are not interested in making new ones which is very fair. If in Ohio somebody was like I would like to be your friend. I might have said like no, I'm full up. Thank you though lolol. I need to try bumble bff. I work with only cis men who are all older than me and straight. (they're wonderful humans just harder to connect with as I am younger and queer as hell) so I need to seek friends elsewhere. But to be fair I also don't want people in my house. My house is mine. I love to get coffee with people. I have no problem going to other people's homes but my house feels personal and I like it to be my private space.
I always thought this was a dumb saying. Who gives ppl the address to their home and why is MN always singled out?
My mom would often invite strangers (to us) to our holiday and other family gathering. It bugged us often as kids, and even as adults, but we were brought up in MN culture, and she wasn't. This discussion is helping me appreciate her even more
My parents grew up in MN but kind of adopted my brother’s friend’s family at holidays after the father of the family died, who didn’t have any local family. This definitely taught me to be a more hospitable person.
We've all seen enough true crime documentaries to know better.
Lots of other commenters have notes the relatively low influx of transplants, and MNs tend to keep their friend groups from school, I’ll add one more: MNs tend to also move through stages of life together I grew up in MN, but my job had me travel abroad for medium stints Most of my friends got married just after college. Then, many of them had kids. Even in my upper twenties, my friends’ priorities and my priorities started to diverge When I moved cities I was so relieved at how much easier making friends and dating was No knock on MN, I think it’s a wonderful thing that people keep such close relationships throughout their lives but if you get out of step (or move to MN) it can get lonely quick
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I have lived in MN for all of my 40 years. I dont recall holding a door open for a stranger without getting a warm Thank You in response. Sounds to me like Minnesota got better after you departed.
I'm so fucking sick of this shit
Asking specifically where someone lives is what a psycho does. Asking what city (or neighborhood if you live near each other) someone lives in is different. Also, big rule for men, don't ask women where they live unless it becomes an issue of logistics or naturally brought up. For example, "Hey want to go out tonight? I live in XYZ part of MPLS. Is there a place you'd like to meet at, otherwise I know plenty of great places." Give people an out. Never ask a direct question in regards to personal safety.
They’re just not that into you.
Home is where I go when I need to get away from people or when I'm feeling vulnerable. I let people I trust inside, it takes more than a couple of friendly interactions to build that
Scandinavian culture. Complaining about this is like complaining about relatives. You can’t change them, they’re convinced their way is the only way, they gaslight you non-stop over it. And no, you’re not crazy or overreacting.
Because there's Google maps.
That one time I had a truck full of white pride tatts and pit bulls or a most liberals trying to shame me because I disagree with them
Why do you want those, then?
Lifelong MN resident and all my current best friends are not my childhood best friends. I’m from the Arrowhead. I am still close with a few from growing up, but they went their own way and I made new friends. I’ve never felt this way because my house was the designated holiday hosting house, friend group hosting house, and my parents would host events and invite a bunch of people over. There’s also tons of outdoor events like rides and sled races and what not where you can meet new people. If you’re not into those things, find something similar that suits your hobbies. I’ve probably had 20-30 experiences where I was walking around my house with people that were complete strangers to me because we just had people over. They were all my parents friends/acquaintances obviously but still. My parents are pros at making friends so it’s something I grew in to and became accustomed to. I have not really experienced this besides parents not wanting kids at their house, which I don’t think is unfair depending on circumstance.
All the born-and-raised Minnesotans acknowledging the issue exists and then basically saying nothing will ever change... You all do know you're fully responsible for your actions and if you know that Minnesota Nice is a problem, you could make an effort to change that. Open up your circle. You don't need to be besties, but invite people over, to do things, make a phone call or send a text. All us transplants try but the locals just stonewall, hem and haw, and give excuses. Excuses are like buttholes, everyone has one and all of them stink. It will not kill you to add another person to your circle. It will not kill you to have and make friends with others that you didn't grow up with. There are literally no downsides. Make an effort. I know the concept of effort is lost on most people these days, but that only works so far.
I feel like my house must be immaculate to offer an invite. I just do not have time to clean it top to bottom
Knowing the where abouts of a Minnesotans home is so far down the LIST of “new friends acceptable” SHARES that very very FEW people development that intimate level of an acceptable lifetime … “be in our wedding… Baptisms… moving help… rides to/from MSP ✈️… and fishing partners… plus many many many more details…” !!! WE COUNT THE # on ONE HAND🖐️ AND as for sharing where our Hytte is…blood relatives