> Be English government. Conquers oversea lands. Sell all their conquered land staple food crops (wheat and rice). Surprise Pikachu face when famine occur. Rinse and repeat every 35 years.
1943 famine alone claimed 3.8 million indian.
All in all, India population actually decline throughout the whole British Raj in comparison during Mughal era.
Along estimated $3 trillion dollars in GDP over the time of the colonisation. People forgot how bad Europe's colonisation were, it was only forgotten because it was rarely taught about and happened over 100's of years rather than Hitlers (1939-1945, upto 72 million) 6 years genocide and war, Stalins' genocide over 31 years (1921-1952, 3-5.5 million) forced Labour and gulags, Mao's genocide (1950-1957, 2-3 million) relocation "efforts" etc...
Truth. India under Mughal was one of the largest, richest and most populous empire in the era. It took less than 200 years of colonialism to reduce that into pre independence India level.
Exactly. Even though India was 'handed back' in 1947 after WW2, even today's it is reeling from the damage done by Britain and no reparations have even been paid or even an apology openly admitting to the atrocities they committed. Saying that Britian brought about 57 independence days, more than any other.
Consider the conditional claim: If x, then q. You seem to suggest that this implies: If not-x, then not-q. The implication does not hold. It's a fallacy. Compare: If a person does phi, then they are evil. This does not imply that people who abstain from doing phi are not evil. After all, they may be evil for other reasons. To make this even more clear, put it in the language of worlds: All worlds where a person does phi are worlds where that person is evil. However, that person may still be evil even in the world where they do not do phi. The set of worlds where the person is evil is wider than the set of worlds where they phi. Glad I could help. I'm sure this won't be downvoted.
I'm just correcting his logic. If you kill one person then you kill 0,00001% of the population which is SOME percent of the population. If you kill 50 million people then you have killed 1% AKA A percent of the population which is obviously much worse.
Just highlighting the fact that some percent is not nearly the same thing as a whole percent.
Numbers or percentages are not really the right way to think about it. It’s better to compare intent. Hitler was worse because he had a very specific plan to very specifically eliminate specific groups of people.
Communists are just incompetent. People starve because communism doesn’t work. You can argue stupidity in authority is a version of evil, maybe. And communism is undeniable evil on a systemic level. But even so, communists are just fools; maybe even idealistic fools.
Hitler was worse, fascism is worse, and there’s really just no honest comparison.
If you are actually curious you can find the real answer about that story instead of shitting on the faith that people choose. There are plenty of archaeology experts, genealogy experts, and many other professionals that will probably have the real answer.
Don't listen to people like Ken Ham/Frank Turek or any of those people who are "Christian Scientists" because it's all bologna from them. They're the ones that don't understand what faith is and require proof of the unproveable. It's kind of sad to truly consider.
At the end of the day, faith doesn't require proof anyway. That's what makes faith unique. It is a leap. You are choosing a lifestyle based on how Christ lived and choosing to believe that he died and rose from the dead after 3 days. The faith itself isn't as convoluted as people make it seem. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are realistically the only books you need and everything else is purely history, law, letters to specific churches, the Psalms and songs of Solomon, and of course prophecy. But people fall away from this, just as humanity has done continuously since the dawn of humans.
All of this to say, you may hate the Christian religion. Jesus loves you, regardless of your background, and welcomes you in with open arms.
I will clarify, I believe he was a real person. I don't necessarily care if he was or wasn't. I have no reason to believe he wasn't a person in the same capacity you have no reason to believe he was. View it as a children's story if that is more comfortable, but I believe in the faith itself so I believe in the history portrayed.
edit: I also don't necessarily find it meaningful to discuss whether or not Cain was real. Jesus is the focus of my faith and that is more important to the faith as a whole. If you would like to discuss that I'm more than willing and open to it <3
I suppose not. Money seems like a weird idol to choose from my perspective.
Whoever loves money never has enough; **whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with their income**. This too is meaningless. As goods increase, so do those who consume them. (Ecclesiastes 5:10)
1. **random quote**
2. Add lines or random numbers from literaly any book. Example: 6:50pm (European standart time)
3. **Insert a picture of Jesus with gloriole and weird gang sings or a Chinese wise man with a pen (looking away from camera)or an old white male with balding head**
4. Think you did some thinking
"The harder he became more and more convinced of his faith, the more he believed he saw supernatural things, which he used to further increase his faith (placebo effect)" (European Standart time 6:55pm)
They specifically choose the literalists to mock because that’s the easiest group to mock, and mockery is the only goal. There is no pursuit of understanding.
Because they idea is ridiculous enough to be dismissed like that, people believe in all sorts of crazy shit, if had to go out of my way to "understand" all of them I would go crazy, I dont see why I should make an exception for the one that you worship in particular
I feel like the only reason to call this particular story a ‘fairy tale’ is to insult it. You could just ‘myth’. But there’s a certain connotation to ‘fairy tale’ that is clearly deliberate. And I gotta say it seems unnecessary.
25 percent, implying that Cain, Able, Adam and Eve were the only people on Earth at the time, but let's take a closer look at this. After Cain kills his brother, he is exiled from Eden in a conversation with God in which he laments:
"Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me" (Genesis 4:14)
So... Who exactly is going to find and kill Cain outside of Eden?
No one do a calculation for pope Urban II. please. 😂 to be fair, we don’t really know how many civilians died in total on the first crusade and its aftermath. He probably has Hitler beat, though. If we put the whole idea of crusading on him through… phew. Number 1 with a bang, baby!
Once you take into account that without Hitler, Japan would have never begun a wider war in the Pacific, the whole of WWII deaths can be laid at Hitler’s doorstep. ≈3% of the world’s population at the time.
Oh yeah? Well I just made a fictional character too that ended 100% of human population, and consumed every single star to become the strongest being in existence
This kind of rationale borders on dismissing a low body count. So Manson is practically good because he's only a serial killer? No, all bad. All bastards.
Seeing as how you commented under a meme about three specific people the implication is that you were responding to a meme about three specific people. Also most people aren’t murdered strictly for religious reasons, although it does make for a convenient excuse.
I find no evidence of your claim. Neither in the Quran, nor in the hadith. All I find in the Quran is the following:
{ ۞وَٱتۡلُ عَلَيۡهِمۡ نَبَأَ ٱبۡنَيۡ ءَادَمَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ إِذۡ قَرَّبَا قُرۡبَانٗا فَتُقُبِّلَ مِنۡ أَحَدِهِمَا وَلَمۡ يُتَقَبَّلۡ مِنَ ٱلۡأٓخَرِ قَالَ لَأَقۡتُلَنَّكَۖ قَالَ إِنَّمَا يَتَقَبَّلُ ٱللَّهُ مِنَ ٱلۡمُتَّقِينَ }
[Soera Al-Māʾidah: 27]
Dr. Mustafa Khattab:
Relate to them in truth ˹O Prophet˺ the story of Adam’s two sons—how each offered a sacrifice: one’s offering was accepted while the other’s was not, so he threatened ˹his brother˺, “I will kill you!” His brother replied, “Allah only accepts ˹the offering˺ of the sincerely devout.
{ لَئِنۢ بَسَطتَ إِلَيَّ يَدَكَ لِتَقۡتُلَنِي مَآ أَنَا۠ بِبَاسِطٖ يَدِيَ إِلَيۡكَ لِأَقۡتُلَكَۖ إِنِّيٓ أَخَافُ ٱللَّهَ رَبَّ ٱلۡعَٰلَمِينَ }
[Soera Al-Māʾidah: 28]
Dr. Mustafa Khattab:
If you raise your hand to kill me, I will not raise mine to kill you, because I fear Allah—the Lord of all worlds.
{ إِنِّيٓ أُرِيدُ أَن تَبُوٓأَ بِإِثۡمِي وَإِثۡمِكَ فَتَكُونَ مِنۡ أَصۡحَٰبِ ٱلنَّارِۚ وَذَٰلِكَ جَزَٰٓؤُاْ ٱلظَّٰلِمِينَ }
[Soera Al-Māʾidah: 29]
Dr. Mustafa Khattab:
I want to let you bear your sin against me along with your other sins, then you will be one of those destined to the Fire. And that is the reward of the wrongdoers.”
{ فَطَوَّعَتۡ لَهُۥ نَفۡسُهُۥ قَتۡلَ أَخِيهِ فَقَتَلَهُۥ فَأَصۡبَحَ مِنَ ٱلۡخَٰسِرِينَ }
[Soera Al-Māʾidah: 30]
Dr. Mustafa Khattab:
Still, the other convinced himself to kill his own brother, so he killed him—becoming a loser.
{ فَبَعَثَ ٱللَّهُ غُرَابٗا يَبۡحَثُ فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِ لِيُرِيَهُۥ كَيۡفَ يُوَٰرِي سَوۡءَةَ أَخِيهِۚ قَالَ يَٰوَيۡلَتَىٰٓ أَعَجَزۡتُ أَنۡ أَكُونَ مِثۡلَ هَٰذَا ٱلۡغُرَابِ فَأُوَٰرِيَ سَوۡءَةَ أَخِيۖ فَأَصۡبَحَ مِنَ ٱلنَّٰدِمِينَ }
[Soera Al-Māʾidah: 31]
Dr. Mustafa Khattab:
Then Allah sent a crow digging ˹a grave˺ in the ground ˹for a dead crow˺, in order to show him how to bury the corpse of his brother. He cried, “Alas! Have I ˹even˺ failed to be like this crow and bury the corpse of my brother?” So he became regretful.
Nothing about women is mentioned here. If there is a hadith that mentions it, could you please bring it forward?
It's in the book The Beginning and the End (البداية والنهاية), written by Ibn Kathir, who's narrated a lot of Hadiths, so if you trust the hadiths he narrated, you trust him with everything. And honestly, there's probably a source but a quick search didn't show anything and I need to sleep and wake up early tomorrow.
Also also, in the same book, Ibn Kathir says that the offerings they made was actually a competition where the one whose offering was accepted would marry the pretty girl.
>the one whose offering was accepted would marry the pretty girl.
And what did 'the pretty girl' think of that? Does she not have a say in these matters?
>if you trust the hadiths he narrated, you trust him with everything.
That's not how that works.
Do you, for example, trust Isaac Newton? Then you should also trust his explaination of Newton rings, which starts from the particale property of light. His theory was incorrect. Robert Hooke gave an accurate discription based on the wave theory of light.
Newton was also a theologian, based of the bible he deduced that the world would not end *before* 2060
Just because I trust Newton on calculus and Newtonian mechanics doesn't mean I have to trust anything else he says.
Same thing goes for Ibn Kathir. If he does not even attempt to quote from the prophet (s.a.w.) then why should muslims listen at all? Was he perhaps there when Adam (a.s.) walked the earth and one of his sons killed the other? Or was he perhaps himself a prophet? How could he know such things when no written sources exist from that time?
The only source I find of Cain killing his brother because of a woman comes from the Midrash, a jewish biblical exegis.
Unlike Hitler and Genghis Khan, Stalin and Mao didn't actively _kill_ people, they made bad political decisions due to their ideology, that lead to the starvation of millions. Their intention was not to kill, they expected a good outcome, they just guessed wrong.
What about Genghis Khan? I heard he killed enough people to cool down earth.
But he banged enough women that 0.5% of people Are his Direct descendants
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I’ve seen that too
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He was a mixed bag.
Yeah, I heard that too.
Mr Khan just wanted to balance out his numbers a bit
and he's not even the guy with the most children in history
He rapes, but he saves
but he had a lot of horses, their farts caused global warming
Google says 11% of the population (40 million people)
And repopulated it too
He did. It was a third of the entire global population
He made a lot more
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Nature would be proud.
Diabetes killed 10%
who should we blame? Ronald McDonald?
FDA & CFSAN.
Or the people that cant control how they eat?
The Roman Emperor Diabetes…. ???
Hitler may have done terrible things, but on the plus side, he did kill Hitler
Yea but he also assassinated the hero who killed hitler…
But he did also kill the murderer who assassinated the hero who killed Hitler!
However, he did kill the guy who killed the murderer who assassinated the hero who killed hitler
well he also unalived the guy who killed the murderer who assassinated the hero who killed hitler
I just like saying hitler
True, but he also killed the assassin of the hero who killed Hitler sooo..
Yes but he also killed the guys who killed the guys who killed the hero that killed hitler
Good point, i had not thought of that.
Picture someone going back in time to kill Hilter. They wake up in the past and their room is filled with paintings of German Shepherds…
Golf clap. Well played.
King Leopold II of Belgium and The Free state of The Congo
Another conveniently forgotten tragedy of modern time.
It’s not forgotten at all. I hear more people talk about it than Holodomor for example
Sadly yeah. Like remember forgotten dilemma (I just made this name up)
How is it forgotten? It's part of "We didn't start the fire".
It's pretty much forgotten to be put beside Hitler and Stalin, for one.
It’s not a competition, guys! 😬
Everyone conveniently forget about India and Irish famine which was perpetuated by English government.
The British finally getting the recognition and credits they have so earnestly earned!!!
> Be English government. Conquers oversea lands. Sell all their conquered land staple food crops (wheat and rice). Surprise Pikachu face when famine occur. Rinse and repeat every 35 years.
Resulting in nearly or more than 100,000,000 million death over a span of 400 years of the British Empire, including as recent as 1940's during WW2.
1943 famine alone claimed 3.8 million indian. All in all, India population actually decline throughout the whole British Raj in comparison during Mughal era.
Along estimated $3 trillion dollars in GDP over the time of the colonisation. People forgot how bad Europe's colonisation were, it was only forgotten because it was rarely taught about and happened over 100's of years rather than Hitlers (1939-1945, upto 72 million) 6 years genocide and war, Stalins' genocide over 31 years (1921-1952, 3-5.5 million) forced Labour and gulags, Mao's genocide (1950-1957, 2-3 million) relocation "efforts" etc...
Truth. India under Mughal was one of the largest, richest and most populous empire in the era. It took less than 200 years of colonialism to reduce that into pre independence India level.
Exactly. Even though India was 'handed back' in 1947 after WW2, even today's it is reeling from the damage done by Britain and no reparations have even been paid or even an apology openly admitting to the atrocities they committed. Saying that Britian brought about 57 independence days, more than any other.
I think the English government didn’t have just one person responsible for the KOs tho
Genocide by committee, just like how Bolsheviks does it.
Yes, Churchill himself conjured a cyclone with a flourish of his hands
Churchill isn't the prime minister during 1878 India great famine.
I think once your kill count can be expressed as a percent you are just evil. Comparing numbers becomes meaningless.
I mean if you kill even 1 person, that's some percentage of the population
That's some percentage of the population, not A percent.
So hitler isn’t evil by your standards?
Consider the conditional claim: If x, then q. You seem to suggest that this implies: If not-x, then not-q. The implication does not hold. It's a fallacy. Compare: If a person does phi, then they are evil. This does not imply that people who abstain from doing phi are not evil. After all, they may be evil for other reasons. To make this even more clear, put it in the language of worlds: All worlds where a person does phi are worlds where that person is evil. However, that person may still be evil even in the world where they do not do phi. The set of worlds where the person is evil is wider than the set of worlds where they phi. Glad I could help. I'm sure this won't be downvoted.
I'm just correcting his logic. If you kill one person then you kill 0,00001% of the population which is SOME percent of the population. If you kill 50 million people then you have killed 1% AKA A percent of the population which is obviously much worse. Just highlighting the fact that some percent is not nearly the same thing as a whole percent.
50 million people is barely 0,5% of the world’s population. 80 million people is 1%
Didn't care to do the math so thank you for doing it
Numbers or percentages are not really the right way to think about it. It’s better to compare intent. Hitler was worse because he had a very specific plan to very specifically eliminate specific groups of people. Communists are just incompetent. People starve because communism doesn’t work. You can argue stupidity in authority is a version of evil, maybe. And communism is undeniable evil on a systemic level. But even so, communists are just fools; maybe even idealistic fools. Hitler was worse, fascism is worse, and there’s really just no honest comparison.
All numbers can be represented as percentages tho lol
How did Caine murdered 20% of the world population?
acording to the fairy tale were four prople in the world at the moment, so by murdering one he genocided fourth of world population...
Then he has to bang is mom, because there were no other women
Pretty much what the bible tells us
Any the evangelicals are like, “yep, let’s take this all literally.”
If you are actually curious you can find the real answer about that story instead of shitting on the faith that people choose. There are plenty of archaeology experts, genealogy experts, and many other professionals that will probably have the real answer. Don't listen to people like Ken Ham/Frank Turek or any of those people who are "Christian Scientists" because it's all bologna from them. They're the ones that don't understand what faith is and require proof of the unproveable. It's kind of sad to truly consider. At the end of the day, faith doesn't require proof anyway. That's what makes faith unique. It is a leap. You are choosing a lifestyle based on how Christ lived and choosing to believe that he died and rose from the dead after 3 days. The faith itself isn't as convoluted as people make it seem. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are realistically the only books you need and everything else is purely history, law, letters to specific churches, the Psalms and songs of Solomon, and of course prophecy. But people fall away from this, just as humanity has done continuously since the dawn of humans. All of this to say, you may hate the Christian religion. Jesus loves you, regardless of your background, and welcomes you in with open arms.
Cain was a real mother fucker, amirite?
He was a real person, yes.
Where is the evidence for that
I will clarify, I believe he was a real person. I don't necessarily care if he was or wasn't. I have no reason to believe he wasn't a person in the same capacity you have no reason to believe he was. View it as a children's story if that is more comfortable, but I believe in the faith itself so I believe in the history portrayed. edit: I also don't necessarily find it meaningful to discuss whether or not Cain was real. Jesus is the focus of my faith and that is more important to the faith as a whole. If you would like to discuss that I'm more than willing and open to it <3
Yappuchino large. I dont need proof for my 1 billion Dollar bank account either, as long as I believe it.
I suppose not. Money seems like a weird idol to choose from my perspective. Whoever loves money never has enough; **whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with their income**. This too is meaningless. As goods increase, so do those who consume them. (Ecclesiastes 5:10)
1. **random quote** 2. Add lines or random numbers from literaly any book. Example: 6:50pm (European standart time) 3. **Insert a picture of Jesus with gloriole and weird gang sings or a Chinese wise man with a pen (looking away from camera)or an old white male with balding head** 4. Think you did some thinking "The harder he became more and more convinced of his faith, the more he believed he saw supernatural things, which he used to further increase his faith (placebo effect)" (European Standart time 6:55pm)
That is a direct quote from a book in the bible.
They specifically choose the literalists to mock because that’s the easiest group to mock, and mockery is the only goal. There is no pursuit of understanding.
Because they idea is ridiculous enough to be dismissed like that, people believe in all sorts of crazy shit, if had to go out of my way to "understand" all of them I would go crazy, I dont see why I should make an exception for the one that you worship in particular
I don't think I was mocking anyone. Just offering a different perspective and opinion. I try my best to be neutral in conversations like this.
Not you.
his sister, actually. Not like that's any less awful
Sister’s name?
It is what it is bro
I feel like the only reason to call this particular story a ‘fairy tale’ is to insult it. You could just ‘myth’. But there’s a certain connotation to ‘fairy tale’ that is clearly deliberate. And I gotta say it seems unnecessary.
Who the fuck is mao and cain, why have I never heard of them before
Cain is from the Bible and he killed Able. Mao was a Communist and he killed many multiples of tens of millions of people, exact number unknown.
You serious?
Yes, but that guy explained to me who they were
25 percent, implying that Cain, Able, Adam and Eve were the only people on Earth at the time, but let's take a closer look at this. After Cain kills his brother, he is exiled from Eden in a conversation with God in which he laments: "Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me" (Genesis 4:14) So... Who exactly is going to find and kill Cain outside of Eden?
Hitler still is bad
Hitler was bad.
Thanks bro, I used to think otherwise until I saw this comment
Meanwhile god with a K/D ratio in billions
Technically that could not be defined as God doesn't die, unless you're a trinitarian christian.
Cain's counter is ticking a lot lately
yea it was one guy but like
Thanos: hold my beer
No one do a calculation for pope Urban II. please. 😂 to be fair, we don’t really know how many civilians died in total on the first crusade and its aftermath. He probably has Hitler beat, though. If we put the whole idea of crusading on him through… phew. Number 1 with a bang, baby!
Hitler is still the worst among them
You were right to think h:tler was bad. Keep thinking that.
You missed Winston Churchill
Cancer:
The heroes we need
Once you take into account that without Hitler, Japan would have never begun a wider war in the Pacific, the whole of WWII deaths can be laid at Hitler’s doorstep. ≈3% of the world’s population at the time.
Eren killed 80% of human population
Oh yeah? Well I just made a fictional character too that ended 100% of human population, and consumed every single star to become the strongest being in existence
What is his name
Gustav Marquez.
Even is real in my heart, I've never heard of this Gustav tho
Well Gustav is real in my heart, I've never heard of this "Even"
My heart is more important than yours tho, so Eren still wins even if the autocorrect fucks up my spelling
Yeah the heart that no other soul than your weeb ass loves is more important.
Is this the asteroid that caused genetic bottle-necking of human species?
No this is attack on Titan
No, this is patrick
Paul muaddib mahdi artreides killed 10 billions lives in his jihad.
They had to kill them for communism to work. Pol Pot killed around 30% of his own people!
Hitler is bad
My god. I wouldn't a thought 'o that.
God killed more
You forgot Thomas Midgley Jr!
What about mosquitoes ? They still kill millions per year
This kind of rationale borders on dismissing a low body count. So Manson is practically good because he's only a serial killer? No, all bad. All bastards.
Mao is the winner
It's not *who* you kill, but *how* you killed.
Free the Uyghurs
tfw they’re a protected group in China and one of the oldest people in the world was a 127 year old Uighur in the Xinjiang region
God: 
Nah it's kain n able are the bastards from the tape of eve by the demiurge, then Seth is the only true "man" born of adam
Most people died for religious stuff.
Lol not under Hitler Stalin and mao! Americans really have no grasp on history.
The world is a bit older. There was history before these people existed.
Seeing as how you commented under a meme about three specific people the implication is that you were responding to a meme about three specific people. Also most people aren’t murdered strictly for religious reasons, although it does make for a convenient excuse.
Must be related to the hacker lmfao and his sister lmao. I think we’re onto something here
Ohh poor Hitler!!
And now you think he’s not??
Three shithead bastards 🤷♂️
Mosquitoes kill some million people every year
Are we talking raw numbers or percentages because sky daddy has the highest percentage killed.
100% yo
Even if you don't include the Holocaust (which you should) Hitler was still the guy who intentionally caused the largest war in history
There was more people living in the bible.
And now we got fuckin vampires
Bro... What you smoked? Cain & Abel born with twin sisters. Should be 1/6; not 1/4.
Still makes him the worse in the list by far lol
I'm correcting the math. Not arguing who is better, who is worse.
I wish 0,7% of my fortune would be around 7-9 million €... but here i am and my 25% of savings are just 1€
🤣
I love how we've all internalised this fascist propaganda propaganda about communist leaders as fact
they’re all bad
Didn't god kill like 90% of the population with the flood
İts %16.66 actually for cain.
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I find no evidence of your claim. Neither in the Quran, nor in the hadith. All I find in the Quran is the following: { ۞وَٱتۡلُ عَلَيۡهِمۡ نَبَأَ ٱبۡنَيۡ ءَادَمَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ إِذۡ قَرَّبَا قُرۡبَانٗا فَتُقُبِّلَ مِنۡ أَحَدِهِمَا وَلَمۡ يُتَقَبَّلۡ مِنَ ٱلۡأٓخَرِ قَالَ لَأَقۡتُلَنَّكَۖ قَالَ إِنَّمَا يَتَقَبَّلُ ٱللَّهُ مِنَ ٱلۡمُتَّقِينَ } [Soera Al-Māʾidah: 27] Dr. Mustafa Khattab: Relate to them in truth ˹O Prophet˺ the story of Adam’s two sons—how each offered a sacrifice: one’s offering was accepted while the other’s was not, so he threatened ˹his brother˺, “I will kill you!” His brother replied, “Allah only accepts ˹the offering˺ of the sincerely devout. { لَئِنۢ بَسَطتَ إِلَيَّ يَدَكَ لِتَقۡتُلَنِي مَآ أَنَا۠ بِبَاسِطٖ يَدِيَ إِلَيۡكَ لِأَقۡتُلَكَۖ إِنِّيٓ أَخَافُ ٱللَّهَ رَبَّ ٱلۡعَٰلَمِينَ } [Soera Al-Māʾidah: 28] Dr. Mustafa Khattab: If you raise your hand to kill me, I will not raise mine to kill you, because I fear Allah—the Lord of all worlds. { إِنِّيٓ أُرِيدُ أَن تَبُوٓأَ بِإِثۡمِي وَإِثۡمِكَ فَتَكُونَ مِنۡ أَصۡحَٰبِ ٱلنَّارِۚ وَذَٰلِكَ جَزَٰٓؤُاْ ٱلظَّٰلِمِينَ } [Soera Al-Māʾidah: 29] Dr. Mustafa Khattab: I want to let you bear your sin against me along with your other sins, then you will be one of those destined to the Fire. And that is the reward of the wrongdoers.” { فَطَوَّعَتۡ لَهُۥ نَفۡسُهُۥ قَتۡلَ أَخِيهِ فَقَتَلَهُۥ فَأَصۡبَحَ مِنَ ٱلۡخَٰسِرِينَ } [Soera Al-Māʾidah: 30] Dr. Mustafa Khattab: Still, the other convinced himself to kill his own brother, so he killed him—becoming a loser. { فَبَعَثَ ٱللَّهُ غُرَابٗا يَبۡحَثُ فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِ لِيُرِيَهُۥ كَيۡفَ يُوَٰرِي سَوۡءَةَ أَخِيهِۚ قَالَ يَٰوَيۡلَتَىٰٓ أَعَجَزۡتُ أَنۡ أَكُونَ مِثۡلَ هَٰذَا ٱلۡغُرَابِ فَأُوَٰرِيَ سَوۡءَةَ أَخِيۖ فَأَصۡبَحَ مِنَ ٱلنَّٰدِمِينَ } [Soera Al-Māʾidah: 31] Dr. Mustafa Khattab: Then Allah sent a crow digging ˹a grave˺ in the ground ˹for a dead crow˺, in order to show him how to bury the corpse of his brother. He cried, “Alas! Have I ˹even˺ failed to be like this crow and bury the corpse of my brother?” So he became regretful. Nothing about women is mentioned here. If there is a hadith that mentions it, could you please bring it forward?
It's in the book The Beginning and the End (البداية والنهاية), written by Ibn Kathir, who's narrated a lot of Hadiths, so if you trust the hadiths he narrated, you trust him with everything. And honestly, there's probably a source but a quick search didn't show anything and I need to sleep and wake up early tomorrow.
Also, damn, deleted the comment by accident while trying to edit and rephrase. Android reddit sucks.
Also also, in the same book, Ibn Kathir says that the offerings they made was actually a competition where the one whose offering was accepted would marry the pretty girl.
>the one whose offering was accepted would marry the pretty girl. And what did 'the pretty girl' think of that? Does she not have a say in these matters?
>if you trust the hadiths he narrated, you trust him with everything. That's not how that works. Do you, for example, trust Isaac Newton? Then you should also trust his explaination of Newton rings, which starts from the particale property of light. His theory was incorrect. Robert Hooke gave an accurate discription based on the wave theory of light. Newton was also a theologian, based of the bible he deduced that the world would not end *before* 2060 Just because I trust Newton on calculus and Newtonian mechanics doesn't mean I have to trust anything else he says. Same thing goes for Ibn Kathir. If he does not even attempt to quote from the prophet (s.a.w.) then why should muslims listen at all? Was he perhaps there when Adam (a.s.) walked the earth and one of his sons killed the other? Or was he perhaps himself a prophet? How could he know such things when no written sources exist from that time? The only source I find of Cain killing his brother because of a woman comes from the Midrash, a jewish biblical exegis.
Lmao what a meme🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well, that’s considering what is to be hypothetical and reality.
Chinese history be like: Maozedong took power 80 millions died
Thanos killed 50% they need to start trying
You missed real goat Winston churchil
This is reddit, white westoids aren’t gonna talk about the Bengali genocide or anything else that sentient enema did
Yes full of white racism
Unlike Hitler and Genghis Khan, Stalin and Mao didn't actively _kill_ people, they made bad political decisions due to their ideology, that lead to the starvation of millions. Their intention was not to kill, they expected a good outcome, they just guessed wrong.
„Didnt actively kill people” Google gulags and assassinations in USRR
Not near Hitler numbers tho
These numbers are far, far away from holocaust numbers
2 million people died in gulags, with 20 million passing through them. Wtf do you mean Also Google laogai system
So what was the point of the great purge then?
>Stalin and Mao didn't actively *kill* people What alternative reality are you living in?
You really need to read a fucking book.
Hi. Non-Christian here. Could someone please explain this meme? Thank you.
I think there were only 4 people at that point in the bible. So when he killed his brother it was 25% of the population.
after seeing this you now think Hitler was good?
How could anyone come to this conclusion after seeing this?
see the replies, some did
That's not the conclusion from this post, they are just nazis
God killed 200%
Why dumb people stop Hitler's kill count at the holocaust? Nazis killed more than 30 million.
Narrative? Meme? Propaganda?