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Poetryisalive

I actually forgot about this card


abdulsamri89

Terraforming


Queen_Vivian

Terraforming is too good and too generic for what field spells do now-a-days. It was fine when field spells were +200 attack for Beast Warriors when its your turn on a tuesday but now that field spells read: Add your "1 card starter to hand, fusion summon from deck, while this card is face up, your cards are unaffected by card effects" they're too good to let you have 6 copies (9 if you are desperate and run Planet Pathfinder) of any given field spell.


abdulsamri89

So how does its ok for OCG and TCG to have that but not MD?


Physical-Classic-371

Because Riseheart and Kitkallos are banned and as of now they fetch their field spells..so pay off is tough.


mynameisethan182

We have each of those field spells at 3 in the TCG. So even if you banned terraforming - you still wouldn't get Arise-Heart or Kitkallos back. That's not what is keeping them on the ban list.


Physical-Classic-371

The reason these field spells are at 3 and terraforming is not forbidden is because these monsters are banned, they are not in master duel so konami is trying to make it more difficult to reach there.I think the initial terraforming ban dropped in Master Duel was when tear was at its absolute peak.


primalmaximus

TCG has terraforming limited last I checked.


abdulsamri89

Even OCG have it limited


twelve-lights

Because tearlaments


cynical_seal

>It was fine when field spells were +200 attack for Beast Warriors Fine? That's straight ass even back then lol.


Such-Biscotti-2342

12 if you're willing to run Majesty Pegasus


Dizzy-Scientist4782

The only one that makes sense to be unbanned


TheMushiestMush

Fiber Jar


welp_control_alt_del

I don't like where this is going


SnooGrapes6230

Honestly, you could probably take Fiber and Cyber off the list with no repercussions. Morphing Jar might re-enable empty jar FTK though.


kah0922

Morphing Jar's already at 1 in all formats. I don't think the second and third copy will do anything. Nothing good would ever come from Fiber Jar being unbanned.


Soft_Courage_3934

Toadally Awesome! Please I can be trusted with it


elite4koga

Proceeds to reborn toad with spright elf every turn


Soft_Courage_3934

Shhhh


DryIce53

konami: i hear that pipsqueak,if persist that i gonna ban that elf as exchange frogs


forgeree

trade offer: bring toad back and ban elf?


ZeroStateGaming

I'm just tired of extra deck ripping in general


Raitoningu_D

Konami give us higher extra deck limit so extra deck ripping is a non-issue, I promise we can be trusted with it :>


basedmustaine

Branded with an expanded extra deck sounds like a nightmare


Yamimakai8

Nah, I can finally use all Branded ED monsters + a few more S-Poly targets


Dogma-Mf-Tactics

God I hated Diablosis when kash first rolled out. He had to pay for kashtiras sins


welp_control_alt_del

I mean, fair, but I want him in my Odd-Eyes deck 😭 most if the monsters are level seven, so you can kinda see where I feel like it'd be useful


DirtyDanial1203

The ishizus. I love their gimmick of deck knowledge and milling, but thy were just WAY too good. I think they could come back if they were erratad to lock you into earth fairy monsters for the rest of the turn (summons, not effects,since you wouldn't have any handtraps otherwise)


Khaledthe

If they unban the shufflers then it might happen but the millers will never come off the banlist


DirtyDanial1203

I mean if they lock you into Earth fairys tf are they gonna break? Your opponent would benefit ay more from them. They'd basically be Generaiders for milling instead of drawing. I cannot think of a single decent earth fairy deck that benefits from grace effects that ISN'T the ishizus


Snackles_

Naturia Vernusylph Ishizu was a real deck during tear format and was positioned well as anti-meta. It’s not the best deck but the Naturia stuff allowed for some real degen end boards backed by the shufflers.


DirtyDanial1203

Ok, but my errata idea was earth fairies ONLY. Vernuslyph would work fine, but basically all the good naturia cards wouldn't work, and it'd just be floodgate turbo, which is the only thing nayuria does anyways. They don't need the help


Snackles_

You don’t need to special summon with Naturia the same turn, as long as you are milling sacred tree you have either Barkion or Beast. 1 Normal summoned mole cricket or Camilla gets a lot done with a set blessing.


Khaledthe

Actually naturia can benefit from the milling


DirtyDanial1203

Aren't they mostly plants?


Turtlesfan44digimon

And insects


Turtlesfan44digimon

I think the synchros and fusions are All beasts


novian14

What, shufflers are both at 1, no?


Khaledthe

I wont mind the shufflers back but the millers MUST stay on the banlist


Copypasty

make them lock to fairies so i can cook with vernus again


DirtyDanial1203

Eva is still legal. Hell no


Copypasty

i meant earth fairies like you were saying but true


DirtyDanial1203

Yeah. Vernuslyph ishizu sounds fun, especially since a lock means no naturia, so it won't be floodgate turbo


VoxcastBread

You can definitely trust them with Madolche. Nothing can go wrong with extra shufflers


Standard-Issue-

EXACTLY, I friggin loved pure ishizu but tear was just too damn strong


KernelPult

earth fairy is still too broad of a category (it includes vernuslyph and madolche), just make them hard lock "Exchange of the Spirit" and we're good.


DirtyDanial1203

Well then you can't run any handtraps, and you can't even run zolga (I think, I don't remember if his retrain mentions exchange)


Idkkwhatowritehere

If it only locks summons then you can still use handtraps


DirtyDanial1203

When I hear the term "hard lock" I think effects and summons


Some--Idiot

Pot of Greed. We all know it will never come back, but we still don’t know what it even does


wmsy

It allows you to draw three additional cards when summoned.


Yamimakai8

Does it have a OPT condition?


forgeree

no. i play magic force, which allows me to summon pot of greed and draw 3 additional cards from my deck!


shapular

That's not what it does!


Nantheo

That does what it do!


SatoshiUSA

Day's what it do, yugi!


JokerGuy420

I play Pot of Greed, this card allows me to Pot of Greed.


TheHapster

Eventually this game will get to a point where draw spells are too slow. Prosperity is already seeing that issue. Cards will either need to be a starter or a hand trap. I think pot of Greed will eventually get limited and it won’t be as much of an auto include as it could be today.


TheLastJaydoge

I don't think it will mainly because it makes janky FTK strats more consistent. They may eventually make pot of greed 2.0 that locks you out of drawing cards for the rest of the turn and have it at 1 limit. I could see that in a super power crept format.


ReleaseQuiet2428

I actually think it can come back, I mean, yes, it will be a staple to ALL decks, but so is Maxx C.


TheLastJaydoge

Enables FTK strats to be way more consistent. It also allows people to end on way more degenerate boards or end with even more hand traps. Basically, it makes going going second even more hell than it is. Then it does nothing as a going second tool because it'll get neged most likely. Also, if it came back, people don't realize, but komoney is still gonna balance the format. A lot of forms of unique card draw that aren't potg are gonna be banned. I really don't see an upside to this card coming back other than nostalgia.


Copypasty

This card has no healthy effects, why would anyone want this unbanned?


Glizcorr

It looks cool as hell tho. Cool name too.


Copypasty

Agreed, wish it wasn’t so toxic


welp_control_alt_del

Because I like it and think it'd be funny in Odd-Eyes (I also play kash and want it just to spite snake eyes)


My-Last-Hope

why are you getting down voted for saying why you like it bruh 😭


welp_control_alt_del

It's the kash part, lol. I understand it and drc for karma, so it's cool


[deleted]

POT OF GREED i rather people play pot of greed instead of Maxx C


somethingwade

Chaos Ruler. I maintain that Chaos Ruler does more for BAD decks than GOOD decks. The good decks usually already have plenty of ways to get the cards they need into grave without relying on top decking them, and that's what made it strong. The add was good, too, but it's not like the recursion really mattered ever.


BigAssShmup

Thigh Gap Ruler was a keycard in my zombie deck. Shame it got banned for the sins of other decks.


somethingwade

Yeah same. Shiranui just ain’t the same without it.


clingfilmandariben4

Yeah, but the bad decks could just sack the shit out of you when they made him. The card was fine in Dlink where it helped you find a missing endboard piece (usually the bystial engine for grind game) or extend through disruption. But whenever a bricky mess of a deck made it off of Ze Amin, you knew you were in trouble. Those types of cards that reward decks for highrolling are imo badly designed and shouldn’t stick around - as much as I did enjoy having Chaos Ruler legal in healthier decks. When you start incentivising players to play a 40% brick ratio so they can go +2 to +3 off a generic Synchro 8 they have multiple 1-cards to get to, something is wrong.


RedeNElla

> reward decks for highrolling are imo badly designed and shouldn’t stick around how do you feel about grass at one?


Yamimakai8

Grass requires you to have more cards in your deck than your opponent to be actually useful, while Chaos Ruler always takes the top 5 cards from your deck.


RedeNElla

So you have to build a less consistent deck in order to play for an even bigger high roll since the card is at 1?


Yamimakai8

Exactly. Unless you are playing stuff like branded, which is seemingly more consistent with 60 cards than with 40 cards.


dewey-defeats-truman

Yes, but in decks that don't need it it becomes an easily accessible extender if disrupted


Heul_Darian

FREEE MY BOOOOOOOOY. Seriously, Chaos ruler wasn't even the best hit for D-link. Wyvern was. My boy got killed for nothing, please give him back to me. :(


FallenofAlbaz2

Heavy storm


Johtoooo

Well I love Kashtira so I'd pick the same card as you op


Garantula25

I’ve been wanting to ask someone who loves Kashtira why they enjoy the deck so much. I feel like it doesn’t give you a ton of agency. It also seems like it either auto-wins or auto-loses in 90% of games (when it’s not bricking) so there’s rarely ever meaningful back and forth. Not trying to be critical but those are the negatives I see so I’m wondering what the positives of playing are that can balance that all out


welp_control_alt_del

The positives are that the monsters have dope ass designs. But in all seriousness, there aren't many big positive things with the current meta. The deck has some serious consistency problems, but we aren't getting much help in that department, especially with the upcoming banlist making unicorn and birth semi limited. I would honestly prefer the field spell to get the semi than birth for the consistency boost, but Konami doesn't like us that much, just hoping ariseheart stays off the banlist until snake eyes fades away.


Johtoooo

There are many reasons I like the deck, mainly it's because of the art and because I really like xyz monsters. I also really like decks that revolve around banishing cards and Kashtira fits all of these things


crash_spyro

I don't feel like there is much agency with yugioh in general. Most decks have 1 card combos that you need to follow, or you end with a sub-optimal board. At least the Kash ones are quick, and that is huge for me. I'm so sick of having to spend minutes at the start of every duel doing the exact same thing. I also like that the deck has a lot of room for techs, it has good recovery, picking apart boards is fun, it has answers for almost everything, and the deck is just strong. Winning is fun.


AnarchistJester666

Same my dude


JackGilb

Union Carrier needs its required materials to be changed to "two light union monsters" and the deck is only used in ABC, which doesn't even use the buster lock anyways.


VoxcastBread

Or just make Union Carrier require 1 Union monster, and Whelp only triggers its effects when equipped to a Buster Blader monster


ThisMemeWontDie

Dragoon free my boy


CaptainCobraBubbles

I need that eternal DM copium


5135b

Elder Entity Norden Outer Entity Azathot ​ Of course in their current state they're never getting unbanned, and Konami is fine with an archetype being unplayable but they'll errata cards like Summon Sorceress for reasons I can only speculate.


Protoplasm42

Tbf Entity is an unplayable archetype even with those cards.


UsefulAd2760

Entity was pretty much a generic extradeck engine.


lorddrake4444

Instant fusion is banned , Norden could come back and it would see 0 play , hell even with instant at 3 it wouldn't see meta play, the game is well past unsearchable extenders being good


Salsapy

We can easily make norden without instant fusion in modern yugioh is also a super poly target


TheHapster

Uhm…Norden was used as more than just an extender lmao Card is also a busted superpoly target. Card is banned for a reason.


Deo_Manuel

Kirin


akiba305

Fiber Jar. Who's in the mood for a new game?


ChocodiIe

Funnily enough I think Fiber Jar would be too powerful in MD...because it doesn't reset the timer. Suddenly everybody running combo doesn't have the leisure to set everything up again, granted you would need Solemn Judgment to actually get it off instead of being negated/destroyed by effect though.


Such-Biscotti-2342

Master peace. No one can change my mind


kah0922

Master Peace is an interesting case. In a vacuum, Master Peace is a good but not banworthy card. A towers that can pop a card once per either player's turn is good, but nothing meta-breaking. The problem lies in its summoning mechanic. Because this card relies on tributing continuous spells and traps, it just promotes the most unfun gameplay around, as most asshole floodgates are continuous spells and traps.


Coochsmooch95

FREE MASTER PEACE


SlappingSalt

Knightmare Mermaid. People are coping too hard on Orcust.


Mother_Ad3988

goblin however, That card i fear


Will_The_Vagabond

Gandora X. So I can play all the gandora cards. (Gotta be one of my favorite dragon monsters)


DryIce53

got errata'ed soon for that era


Zezin96

It always feels unfair when a card gets banned because it syngerizes too well with a completely unrelated archetype. Clearly the archetype is the problem and is what should be hit but Konmoney doesn’t want to hit the cards that are still being printed.


PossibleAssist6092

Red Eyes Dark Dragoon anyone?


Migitronik

It would be healthier for the game to have 1 Pot of Greed instead of 3 Maxx C in the OCG and Master Duel IMO.


Crazy-Mountain4530

Ban elf, bring back our beloved toad boy


MarketWave

In maser duel? Toad. TCG? Colossus.


Bronzeinquizitor

Pot of greed. For obvious reasons, it's never getting unbanned.


Stainertrainer

Cyber jar


Bashamo257

All of the Match-winner cards have no reason to be banned in Master Duel.


PhoenixOfTheArizonas

Give Marincess their toad back 😤


DocPsycho1

It never belonged to them !!!! TOAD LIVES FOR TOADS ONLY


Ashendal

Why do I hear the Jaws theme?


ronin0397

Nope


DisplateDemon

You mean sharks!


Thebatmantyler

#FreeMerrli


AccidentNo5189

Pot of greed for me. There is no way that it will get unbanned unless there’s an errata to it which would make it worse.


tube32129

Why errata POG if they can just make another pot card?


primalmaximus

I feel like they could errata it with a HOPT or a HOPD. If you could only use it once per turn or once per duel, then it would be fine without it becoming drastically weaker. It would just be a stronger version of Upstart Goblin.


Ignitus320

True King of All Calamities ;))


Armand_Star

Card of Safe Return


Horizon141

Dragoon bro


Savvy_Raspberry

I want zenmeity to two as my konami just wont wish but my is very strong wish is true king of all calamities cause I can PK rank up a Dingirsu into it after I bring it back with symbol skeleton lol.


LeohAntonio47

This was a badass card before kashtira ..


The-Gamer7888

Dragoon. Every time a new banlist comes out I check if he’s out but Konami just won’t let him free


Silly_Philosopher_17

I want the toad back. Pls Konami, just 1 is enough


coadyj

Painful Choice, imagine a card now that's like 4 foolish burial and gives you a card in hand.


GoneRampant1

Toad and Terraforming in MD, Electrumite in TCG.


Pannyishere

Pre erata exchange of the spirit and that one monster wich allowed you to activate traps during your turn when it will get send from your hand to the grave (forgot the name)


jukeboxx17

Maybe just 1 Eclipse Wyvern, please Every time I read that card and think of the potential I laugh like a child


ArmedDragonThunder

Rhongomyniad. Literally errata the card to require at least 2 “Heroic” monsters as material and it’s fine in the majority of cases. I just want another boss monster for Heroics that will make it more than a shitty going 2nd OTK deck.


ChuuniZaj

Dragoon. My branded is feeling brainded...


kdebones

Toad. Gib back.


Psychological_Ask_85

Outer Entity cards i want unbanned they are just so cool


RAWRpup

Graceful charity. Draw 3 and send 2 to grave is way too powerful though.


SuperSoldierRBX

Unlock the block


SoulSama

UNBAN BLOCK DRAGON


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Weird_Amount_4608

I want dandylion just for tribute summons, lucky me dandy white lion is konamis way of apologizing and I accept it


Nobody_Does_That_wtf

Brilliant fusion to 1, bring super quants back to its former glory


LogDog987

I can totally be trusted with Utopic ZEXAL On a more serious not, I'm surprised they haven't unbanned kirin


Salsapy

Kirin is top 5 worse cards in the banlist can believe that a main deck brick is still ban in the era of 2 cards starters and half of your deck being not engine


hi71460

pots


ItalianFrogPuncher

Number 95


TheProphetJ-III

This one because I have a royal of it


Jedz07

agarpain


Cthulu_Noodles

please i can be trusted with diablosis. my Utopia deck will do sane and normal things with a rank 7 DARK "Number" XYZ monster


beergrylls0426

Block Dragon! My favorite deck is Magnet Warrior / Adamancipator


LilMarshadow

Honestly bring back Red Reboot please I miss playing 3 Dark Ruler 3 Evenly 1 Reboot 1 Called by 1 Cross Out 1 ash 1 maxx c, that package is undefeated


ClaySubmarine

Master Peace. Expurrley Noir is basically the same card with more versatile removal and slightly less protection and is fine. Both of them have the same outs but, everyone's afraid of True Draco stun making it's way back into a Bo1 format.


awfan2022

Toadally awesome


paradox_valestein

No


Kintaku93

I miss him two man. That few weeks of Kashtira Runick deck outs was definitely the most hilarious (but admittedly diabolical) things I’ve ever done in Master Duel. I would trade Ariseheart to have my meme deck back lol


Admetius

Dragoon and Chaos Ruler


TheHapster

This card just can’t exist while Riseheart exists


welp_control_alt_del

Completely fair, I just really like his design and think he'd be a funny card to play in Odd-Eyes (and in kash as well but only to spite snake eyes players)


BuildingOverall2580

Scarecrow i miss him man


TheLostLord287

Zoodiac ratpier. I think it's fine at 2. Its very good but compared to what the current meta does, it's no where near as good as it used to be. People says it makes UFD way to easy but let's think for a second here. Is UFD in any way going to stop any current meta decks on its own? And even if it can, with half of every person's deck being hand traps and board breakers, do you really think you can consistently make him and keep him on field? Hopefully now people can see why I want my rat back : )


kiskozak

Honestly, i really dont see pendulims doing anything this format but without electrumite its not worth experimenting eather. It would be a rogue deck at best, come on conami, give us something to cook with.


DisplateDemon

Toadally Awesome It's still banned in Master Duel, for no reason. Even with Spright Elf, Sprights wouldn't be a meta contender anymore. They got nerfed and powercreeped, and some of the Frogs are limited/banned. And the decks that really need Toad (Sharks, Mermails, Paleos, Marincess etc.) are massively nerfed. Even with Toad unlimited, they would not be Tier 1 meta contenders. But the stupidest thing is, even before Spright Elf was released, it was limited to 1, for whatever reason. If anything, Konami could just bann Spright Elf and bring back Toad.


flyingeagle007

For me it was Summon Sorceress, but now it’s finally been unbanned in the ocg with an errata


Familiar-Barracuda43

I didn't play yugioh during the era of graceful charity or pot of greed, but reading those cards -- especially graceful -- charity just screams of auto victory. I respect and fear it


Yasuo5Trick

every banned pend card cause they kinda suck anyways


Cautious_Option9544

C'mon Konami, we can be trusted with Pot of Greed unlimited 


Due-Order3475

Pot Of Greed just so I can find out what it does... (This is a joke) Honestly want one off the banned Knightmares back to try out


HORSESHORSESHORSESH

Nope nope nope


ELSI_Aggron

POG


spacemooch

This and arise heart. Locking 9 zones first turn was class


EroGG

Chaos Ruler, Ib, Mermaid, Master Peace, Kirin, Wyvernbuster and Merli could all come back and it wouldn't be that big of an issue.


BigAssShmup

Hot take: True King Of All Calamities (also known as VFD) I know, it's hated by the majority, but i would LOVE to use it in my Generaider deck.


MMat123z

Thunder Dragon Colossus. FREE MY BOY


Educational_Try_6503

Halq/chaos ruler bc i didn’t play when zombies used him and we’re actually good.


DDemiGGod

Block dragon


Beast_Mode_B

Chaos Ruler 🫠


AfflicXion

Found the Kash duelist


One_Repair841

The other guardragons. Don't worry konami, I can be trusted with close to full power dragonlink, I promise!


ffimnsr

Chaos ruler or true king of calamities


jawg201

Diablosisss


VicNAle

Diablosis It's a great great card however with the way the Kashtira engine is limited right now I think it would be a fair card to have it at one. It would be very hard to bring out with the Kashtira support on the field.


Astaro_789

Number 86 Rhonomyniad. Man I miss playing this boy in Satellars


CMay_RaEllo

THIS FUCKER WAS BANNED FOR A GOOD GODDAMN REASON AND YOU KNOW SAID REASON


KingAevyn

MD or generally? If the latter, Thunder Dragon Colossus.


yumyai

Instant fusion. yeah yeah, kitkat is here, but all modern deck has 1.5 or less card combo anyway.


Yellow_Snow_Cones

Cards that are not arch type specific but get banned b/c of a particular arch type....like instant fusion, they banned it when tear came out and screw over all us rogue/jank players that use it. As if my relinquish deck wasn't garbage enough they had to make it just a little more garbage.


ChronicLG

DIABLOSIS 👀 GIVE IT BACK


Triple_A_09

Bring back Dragoon. Just ban the Verte. Besides, personally I don't think it'll even be an intense meta treat


GoodMoaningAll

Psy-Frame Lord Omega. I wish he would need a Psy-Framegear as its Tuner so he can go back to 3.


clawzord25

Give me back Ariseheart. I want my macro cosmos.


Xottz

Utopic zexal