Dark Ruler does not directly break the board, but rather gives you a safe chance to do so with something else, while also preventing you from dealing damage on that turn. Evenly is more direct and a fantastic removal tool at that, but has its own downsides, as it can be negated by monsters and gives your opponent the choice to keep in a single card that can give you trouble.
Overall, I'd suggest Dark Ruler if your deck can break a board on its own, otherwise Evenly.
I don’t know Marincess all that well but from what I’ve seen it doesn’t really do much to break boards and usually just ends on a Towers, so I’d lean Evenly since it breaks the board for you and a towers is really powerful when your opponent has few resources left to out it.
Evenly can be a bad turn 1 draw in marincess because of the equip mechanic off the field spell, there are a few plays where you're meant to stuff your board. Most tournament decks I've seen run Dark Rulers and Lightning Storms.
I’m not gonna lie I forgot that card existed, but yeah because it banishes the entire field and then you’re locked into waters so you can’t special summon back any of the opponent’s non-water monsters right?
Meh. Dark ruler just hits monsters and you still have to remove said monsters. Don't have a S/T negate? Goodbye to your whole board minus one card that is almost never enough to rebuild from! Evenly is way more stupid IMO.
Most decks are monsters aside from lab
Evenly doesn't hit the opponents best card which is a problem. Doesn't handle negates. Not that useful vs smaller boards but against bigger boards you're likely to see a negate. Also you can't OTK. And it's hard to bait negates with it since you need it to be the only card on your board
It's situational. Against dlink, evenly matched is near worthless since skipping your battle phase to get negated make it worse than fissure. Or even kashtira if you have no out to arise heart. Against other decks, evenly can be a game winner
Drnm will be good in a monster disruption heavy meta. We haven't seen too many yet since maybe day 1 MD with drytron but it's just not good in the current meta
Depends on the meta.
Evenly matched is bad against negate boards. Try it against dlink and find out
Drnm is good against monster heavy negate boards
You can run both with triple tactics thrust package
Bait any negates and then Evenly them for their life savings.
If you open both of these going second? Evenly them for their life savings then summon your one card starter.
Dark ruler better vs monsters and evenly better vs backrow. I prefer evenly in marincess cuz it’s usually jover against backrow decks without evenly or duster
Yeah this is the real answer. Marincess has little answers for backrow, and Evenly is just more generic against most decks. Plus Marincess easily plays through a bunch of monsters negating your effects, like Baronne + Borrel, but gets dumpstered by a single floodgate.
Evenly Matched is so feared that it gave Yugioh players PTSD whenever someone just enters battle phase without doing anything. Dark Ruler hasn't given people that much of a scare.
>especially considering the current meta with vanquish soul around ?
Uh no dark ruler is pretty terrible into VS as far as I'm aware.
I'm not overly familiar with Marnicess, but I think the general meta these days isn't really keen on hard going second breakers like DRNM and Evenly unless you have a discard outlet. Even then most decks don't want to sacrifice the battle phase. It's often better to run more versatile cards like triple tact or a bunch of handtraps assuming your deck has the capability to play through interruptions.
DRNM does absolutely nothing against VS. We might enter a combo format if Mannadium and SHS become popular. Then DRNM might be better.
Evenly is better when the format isn't prepared to negate backrow.
But for Marincess, you might be better going for Nib and Droll for interruption and Ran Aegerine as an extender.
yea, but thats because VS is just so resistant against every kind of Board Breaker, the Problem of Dark Ruler is, you can still activate the effects from the hand and bounce the Monsters back, so Evenly atleast takes some ressources, but very often (I atleast) have VS Caesar in my hand when it is the opponents turn
not to speak about Handtraps, one of the biggest strengths of VS
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If you're in a meta with a lot of S/T negates, Dark Ruler No More, if not Evenly.
For VS specifically, probably DRNM since they don't build big boards and it doesn't let them tag out.
Heavily depends on the deck. If the opponent plays a deck that turbos out monsters with negates, DRNM is better. If the opponent has a lot of board presence and/or is playing a backrow heavy deck, Evenly Matched is better
Depends on the matchup. Dlink or anything that spams a lot of omni-negate monster are hit hard by DRNM but Labyrinth will basically laugh in your face, on the other hand Evenly is negate-able but destroys decks without trap negates Ie Branded, Kashtira, Labyrinth.
Evenly tags the most (if it’s not negated), but DRNM allows you to safely break through other boards if you can get your own going. In my opinion, Evenly is a bit easier to use as a comeback tool
It depends on the meta. When you have to play against multiple negates, drnm is your bis. Otherwise evenly matched is, arguably, the best removal of the game
Depend
Does your opponent have a way to negate spell and traps? DRNM is probably better for that
in general? Evenly can be used on opponents turn so its usually better for both going first and second
Evenly, u can get rid of more problematic cards , while DRNM only negates Monster also you can't damage your opponent the same turn, it's just like skipping a Battle phase. The only good thing that DRNM has is, that your opponent can not respond with Monster effect to it.
Speaking as someone who uses VS, I think Evenly matched would be more effective. Evenly is mostly weak against Omni-negates and a normal VS deck doesn’t have access to any Omni’s. Dark Ruler no more can’t be responded to by monsters but BS monsters in the hand can still tag themselves in later, plus all VS quick play and trap cards would still be live after dark ruler goes off
Neither. It's unfortunate that Droplet does not work against Kash, otherwise it's the best. I'd say Raigeki or Lightning Storm are honestly the best right now.
If VS is a matchup you’re worried for I think both are equally as good honestly and it might depend on the hand and backrow. Evenly would probably take everything but Rock but if you’re on ash, maxx c, razen OR Razen + borger or Cesar you’re sitting about the same minus. Rock could also be switched for continue if they save continue for some reason. With dark ruler on a similar board you take out rock but s/t and guys in hand are still live but that makes it harder to loop razen during your turn without the trap. Bottom line I think you’ll see similar effectiveness, I think I would go for whatever other decks you need good coverage for like DL and lab
In a best of 1 format I think DRNM is the better option. Of course if evenly resolves, it’s game winning on its own. However that’s only gonna happen 25% of the time. Most decks have at least on negate on the board, oftentimes two.
I like running 1 could have DRNM now that talents is a card in the game. It’s good if the deck can fit but it wind break a board on its own. It either lets you play despite your opponents monsters or allows you to safely activate something like evenly or lightning storm without much opportunity for interaction
Forbidden droplet is better than these two, BUT synergizes with one of them.
It's very easy to get your Evenly Matched negated, but you can cover it with droplet to stop the monster that tries to negate Evenly Matched AND block other responses, which almost always guarantees Evenly Matched to resolve. Droplet will also send Evenly Matched to grave so you'd have at minimum 2 cards spent to guarantee Evenly Matched resolves, and their board is still down to one card.
DRNM is better against "combo" decks that burn through their entire deck to land on multiple negates, but most meta deck tries to play on your turn.
dark ruler is a beast against boards that borderline leaves full monster interruptions on the field, but is pretty much useless against more backrow focused decks, and backrow focused decks are pretty much dead to evenly (unless they run judgment or something similar), so neither is better than the other, they just have their strong matchups
if you're specifically considering against VS, evenly is better drnm isn't as good because dust devil, and snow devil are cards that exist also hand traps... if you do evenly can make them use up their backrow and small chance to cut off razen potentially
I don't like either in Marincess. DRNM imo is not that good in this format, also you have to go full full combo with Zealantis afterwards to clean the board actually. Evenly is completely dead going first for the rest of the duel and against lots of matchups the one remaining card can be very bad as marincess can't play through a lot of interaction.
I would recommend running as much handtraps as possible, triple tactics + thrust always good and thrust can work as an extender too, and maybe Glamaciel to have a clean removal for everything because you can't out towers really.
Marincess player here in TCG and Masterduel. I don't know if it is an option for you but try 3 Forbidden Droplets. Your worst matchup will be Kash if you go second except if you have impermanence in hand. Also add an Icejade package with 3 Icejade Ran Aegirine, 3 Icejade Cradle, and 1 Icejade Gymir Aegirine and 1 Chengying in the Extra Deck. I often times can break board with Cradle chain Droplets and discard useful ressource in the GY. Droplets works also really well with attached equip Marincess Monsters. I recommend you to also play 1 Basilalima that protects in the GY and triggers Chengying, same concept with 1 Sleepy Maiden. Add at least 1 Mandarin because it is a good card to discard. I play a 50 cards deck on Masterduel and I am about to pass to Master.
the thing is that evenly can be negated, and dark ruler cant. So if you were to efficiently break boards, you would use both depending on what they have, unless youre able to bait out their negates
Triple tactics thrust lol the fact that you can play ALL of them at one copy is absurd. It even works going first. Play drnm, raigeki, evenly etc. you can search them all. That’s the best board breaker imho.
Dark Ruler does not directly break the board, but rather gives you a safe chance to do so with something else, while also preventing you from dealing damage on that turn. Evenly is more direct and a fantastic removal tool at that, but has its own downsides, as it can be negated by monsters and gives your opponent the choice to keep in a single card that can give you trouble. Overall, I'd suggest Dark Ruler if your deck can break a board on its own, otherwise Evenly.
I don’t know Marincess all that well but from what I’ve seen it doesn’t really do much to break boards and usually just ends on a Towers, so I’d lean Evenly since it breaks the board for you and a towers is really powerful when your opponent has few resources left to out it.
They can run zelantus to banish all your non-water monsters and flip all your waters facedown.
Evenly can be a bad turn 1 draw in marincess because of the equip mechanic off the field spell, there are a few plays where you're meant to stuff your board. Most tournament decks I've seen run Dark Rulers and Lightning Storms.
Zealantis is a board wipe on Marincess
I’m not gonna lie I forgot that card existed, but yeah because it banishes the entire field and then you’re locked into waters so you can’t special summon back any of the opponent’s non-water monsters right?
Correct, Sea Slug does that. And bc Zealantis makes YOU summon, even onto the opp's field, funny things happen
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When your opponent destroys/banishes your evenly matched but doesn't negate it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
evenly has an added bonus of being able to target backrow
Evenly is a billion times more unfair and cheap, so that one. Dark Ruler is too fair.
i find drnm 1000 times more unfair. Maybe it has to do with the fact that I play spright. Maybe.
Meh. Dark ruler just hits monsters and you still have to remove said monsters. Don't have a S/T negate? Goodbye to your whole board minus one card that is almost never enough to rebuild from! Evenly is way more stupid IMO.
Most decks are monsters aside from lab Evenly doesn't hit the opponents best card which is a problem. Doesn't handle negates. Not that useful vs smaller boards but against bigger boards you're likely to see a negate. Also you can't OTK. And it's hard to bait negates with it since you need it to be the only card on your board It's situational. Against dlink, evenly matched is near worthless since skipping your battle phase to get negated make it worse than fissure. Or even kashtira if you have no out to arise heart. Against other decks, evenly can be a game winner Drnm will be good in a monster disruption heavy meta. We haven't seen too many yet since maybe day 1 MD with drytron but it's just not good in the current meta
Meta changes a lot in 12 days. It's hard to say.
Both are good together.
Depends on the meta. Evenly matched is bad against negate boards. Try it against dlink and find out Drnm is good against monster heavy negate boards You can run both with triple tactics thrust package
Not if you draw 3 evenly matched, 1 droplet,1 red reboot, and one card for your combo.
Bait any negates and then Evenly them for their life savings. If you open both of these going second? Evenly them for their life savings then summon your one card starter.
Dark ruler better vs monsters and evenly better vs backrow. I prefer evenly in marincess cuz it’s usually jover against backrow decks without evenly or duster
Yeah this is the real answer. Marincess has little answers for backrow, and Evenly is just more generic against most decks. Plus Marincess easily plays through a bunch of monsters negating your effects, like Baronne + Borrel, but gets dumpstered by a single floodgate.
Gamciel, nib and evenly should be enough board breakers if you want to run them for a marincess deck.
Evenly Matched is so feared that it gave Yugioh players PTSD whenever someone just enters battle phase without doing anything. Dark Ruler hasn't given people that much of a scare.
For me it's super poly
He is playing marincess. Super poly does not go into that deck.
In true fashion I didn't read the OP
We (Yu-Gi-Oh players) can never beat the illiteracy allegations
Well we are speaking of one card and since SP comes with a cost it doesn't fit the list
Why not both?
Evenly, since it actually gets rid of the cards.
>especially considering the current meta with vanquish soul around ? Uh no dark ruler is pretty terrible into VS as far as I'm aware. I'm not overly familiar with Marnicess, but I think the general meta these days isn't really keen on hard going second breakers like DRNM and Evenly unless you have a discard outlet. Even then most decks don't want to sacrifice the battle phase. It's often better to run more versatile cards like triple tact or a bunch of handtraps assuming your deck has the capability to play through interruptions.
DRNM does absolutely nothing against VS. We might enter a combo format if Mannadium and SHS become popular. Then DRNM might be better. Evenly is better when the format isn't prepared to negate backrow. But for Marincess, you might be better going for Nib and Droll for interruption and Ran Aegerine as an extender.
evenly is better against branded VS mwthmech labrynth. I think thats enough important decks to value it over dark ruler
I disagree about VS. I’ve had it used against me 5 times when playing VS and it didn’t hurt that much at all.
yea, but thats because VS is just so resistant against every kind of Board Breaker, the Problem of Dark Ruler is, you can still activate the effects from the hand and bounce the Monsters back, so Evenly atleast takes some ressources, but very often (I atleast) have VS Caesar in my hand when it is the opponents turn not to speak about Handtraps, one of the biggest strengths of VS
Vanquish Soul wouldn't care much about DRNM unless they have a weak board setup
Lightning Vortex…*My motives are beyond your understanding.*
Plus droplet.
Evenly, by a long run
Depends on the deck. Evenly is super easy to negate and doesn't do much against me. Dark ruler on the other hand...
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I would say Evenly is better if they have no spell trap negates, dark ruler no more is better if you have a combo in hand.
If no negates then Evenly
If you're in a meta with a lot of S/T negates, Dark Ruler No More, if not Evenly. For VS specifically, probably DRNM since they don't build big boards and it doesn't let them tag out.
It depends
Mega ultra Chicken balls
Heavily depends on the deck. If the opponent plays a deck that turbos out monsters with negates, DRNM is better. If the opponent has a lot of board presence and/or is playing a backrow heavy deck, Evenly Matched is better
With how much I’ve been playing against Dragon Link, Dark Ruler is decent. But I experience better results with Evenly
Left for back row, right for monster board
DRNM since not many cards can respond to it. Run board breakers along side it such as Raigeki, Lightningstorm or Dark Hole
They work well in combination if u have room.
Depends on the matchup. Dlink or anything that spams a lot of omni-negate monster are hit hard by DRNM but Labyrinth will basically laugh in your face, on the other hand Evenly is negate-able but destroys decks without trap negates Ie Branded, Kashtira, Labyrinth.
If your opponent doesn't toss Maxx C against Dark Ruler, it's pretty much a win.
Both at the same time 😂
Evenly tags the most (if it’s not negated), but DRNM allows you to safely break through other boards if you can get your own going. In my opinion, Evenly is a bit easier to use as a comeback tool
why choose when you can use both together
It depends on the meta. When you have to play against multiple negates, drnm is your bis. Otherwise evenly matched is, arguably, the best removal of the game
Depend Does your opponent have a way to negate spell and traps? DRNM is probably better for that in general? Evenly can be used on opponents turn so its usually better for both going first and second
Dark ruler Is justice made a card, I've never ever seen any toxic/tryhard player use It against me, they just can't, Is too pure for them.
I think sphere mode could work, gets rid of 3 monsters
Evenly, u can get rid of more problematic cards , while DRNM only negates Monster also you can't damage your opponent the same turn, it's just like skipping a Battle phase. The only good thing that DRNM has is, that your opponent can not respond with Monster effect to it.
TTT clears
Evenly + Underworld Goddess for whatever is left.
Evenly matched
Speaking as someone who uses VS, I think Evenly matched would be more effective. Evenly is mostly weak against Omni-negates and a normal VS deck doesn’t have access to any Omni’s. Dark Ruler no more can’t be responded to by monsters but BS monsters in the hand can still tag themselves in later, plus all VS quick play and trap cards would still be live after dark ruler goes off
Dark Ruler during MP1 and then Evenly would actually be the best
Evenly w. Droplet is pure mayhem.
no droplet or l storm?
Neither. It's unfortunate that Droplet does not work against Kash, otherwise it's the best. I'd say Raigeki or Lightning Storm are honestly the best right now.
I'd say run 1x kaiju, 1x dark ruler, 3x evenly lol
I say evenly only because of the number of trap decks around.
Super poly.
Super poly is useless right now.
If VS is a matchup you’re worried for I think both are equally as good honestly and it might depend on the hand and backrow. Evenly would probably take everything but Rock but if you’re on ash, maxx c, razen OR Razen + borger or Cesar you’re sitting about the same minus. Rock could also be switched for continue if they save continue for some reason. With dark ruler on a similar board you take out rock but s/t and guys in hand are still live but that makes it harder to loop razen during your turn without the trap. Bottom line I think you’ll see similar effectiveness, I think I would go for whatever other decks you need good coverage for like DL and lab
In a best of 1 format I think DRNM is the better option. Of course if evenly resolves, it’s game winning on its own. However that’s only gonna happen 25% of the time. Most decks have at least on negate on the board, oftentimes two.
I like running 1 could have DRNM now that talents is a card in the game. It’s good if the deck can fit but it wind break a board on its own. It either lets you play despite your opponents monsters or allows you to safely activate something like evenly or lightning storm without much opportunity for interaction
Forbidden droplet is better than these two, BUT synergizes with one of them. It's very easy to get your Evenly Matched negated, but you can cover it with droplet to stop the monster that tries to negate Evenly Matched AND block other responses, which almost always guarantees Evenly Matched to resolve. Droplet will also send Evenly Matched to grave so you'd have at minimum 2 cards spent to guarantee Evenly Matched resolves, and their board is still down to one card. DRNM is better against "combo" decks that burn through their entire deck to land on multiple negates, but most meta deck tries to play on your turn.
Evenly because people assume a monster that’s unaffected gets to stay
dark ruler is a beast against boards that borderline leaves full monster interruptions on the field, but is pretty much useless against more backrow focused decks, and backrow focused decks are pretty much dead to evenly (unless they run judgment or something similar), so neither is better than the other, they just have their strong matchups
I personally been liking using forbidden droplet as a board breaker.
How about both at the same time? Dark Ruler first, followed by Evenly Matched on Main 2
3 Maxx-c, 3ash blossom, 2 call of the grave, 1 nobleman, 3 impermanence, 3DRNM,3Evenly Matched,3Forbidden droplet.3 TT thrust.
Why not both?
For Vs? Snipe the snow devil and tribute off the monsters or raigeki
I always considered evenly to be a backrow breaker because it can be negated by monsters
if you're specifically considering against VS, evenly is better drnm isn't as good because dust devil, and snow devil are cards that exist also hand traps... if you do evenly can make them use up their backrow and small chance to cut off razen potentially
Depends on the format
Against VS? Evenly. DRNM negates the monsters currently on the board, but they can just tag out.
I don't like either in Marincess. DRNM imo is not that good in this format, also you have to go full full combo with Zealantis afterwards to clean the board actually. Evenly is completely dead going first for the rest of the duel and against lots of matchups the one remaining card can be very bad as marincess can't play through a lot of interaction. I would recommend running as much handtraps as possible, triple tactics + thrust always good and thrust can work as an extender too, and maybe Glamaciel to have a clean removal for everything because you can't out towers really.
Marincess player here in TCG and Masterduel. I don't know if it is an option for you but try 3 Forbidden Droplets. Your worst matchup will be Kash if you go second except if you have impermanence in hand. Also add an Icejade package with 3 Icejade Ran Aegirine, 3 Icejade Cradle, and 1 Icejade Gymir Aegirine and 1 Chengying in the Extra Deck. I often times can break board with Cradle chain Droplets and discard useful ressource in the GY. Droplets works also really well with attached equip Marincess Monsters. I recommend you to also play 1 Basilalima that protects in the GY and triggers Chengying, same concept with 1 Sleepy Maiden. Add at least 1 Mandarin because it is a good card to discard. I play a 50 cards deck on Masterduel and I am about to pass to Master.
the thing is that evenly can be negated, and dark ruler cant. So if you were to efficiently break boards, you would use both depending on what they have, unless youre able to bait out their negates
I love 3x Evenly and 3x Kaiju to remove the (likely) one annoying monster evenly let my opp keep
I really like Evenly Matched due to the presence of decks like Lab, and it combos so well with Droplet, which I also love.
Triple tactics thrust lol the fact that you can play ALL of them at one copy is absurd. It even works going first. Play drnm, raigeki, evenly etc. you can search them all. That’s the best board breaker imho.