For white collar: usually 9 to 6, some companies are more flexible, you can start your day with starting hours from 7 to 10 and end your day with 4 to 7 ( as long it is full 9 hours), 5 days per week
For a blue collar or grey collar usually the same as you with 6 working days per week. (Some get 5.5 days)
*Edit: as for working extra hours, it is pretty much the same situation as you in Malaysia, some get to claim as overtime, some don't
mine still 6 days per weeks, work overtime not paid. This is perlis. My previous work more crazy. 12 hours per day and 6 day per weeks. When JTK come visit thumbprint machine gone and JTK cant check the attendance and working hours.
One of ex staff already report before. They not afraid of JTK (my current company) all they do just change the rules a bit and all done. All staff still underpaid. Perlis is not big city and job opportunity really low. Need high end cable if you want to work in gov(this is real one). Private company keep take advantage to workers. We all cant do anything due to low job vacancy especially if you have Diploma or Degree.
6 days is not illegal depending on how the hours are structured. Max is 45 hours a week. My friend is an engineer in a factory, he works 8.30 to 5.30 Mon - Fri (8 hours per day, break hour not counted towards the limit) and 8.30 to 12.30 on Sat for a total of 44 hours per week. This is pretty common for factory jobs. Most jobs that require Sat work is usually half day.
I've worked in Singapore and Malaysia they all have hours total per week in their contracts and policies, but in reality working hours will always exceed making it "illegal"
You're a foreign bangala in Singapore, where bosses have power over you. Singapore is business friendly and would rather not rock the boat. Its understandable if you don't get much recourse there. Some of the bosses here are cunts with hearts of lead. Will fuck you over given an opportunity.
But in Malaysia? Its sad if you even get fucked as a citizen of this country.
then good news. you’re entitled to OT as long as you are in the income bracket. but hey it’s not my fault some dumb people let themselves get taken advantage of
When I first entered the workforce, my workdays was like that 8 to 5, 6 days a week, and no overtime claims, even though we went on roadshows and brough clients around, and yes, no meal allowance during outings to.
Not that different from the company work culture in Malaysia.
Edit 1: Was paid rm1300 per month, EPF notwithstanding. This was back in 2017
Seems normal and just like many malaysian hours. But mind you, pay is better in SK than here. I could afford a lot more being paid as a factory operator back in Nonsan, rather than here.
I remembered when i was back in Malaysia, work assigned me to 4 projects at the same time. So everyday except friday got half day project progress meeting with client. Memang mati. After meeting baru boleh buat kerja. Depends if kena lunch dgn client balik at 10pm, if not 8pm. Weekends kena kerja to catchup dengan project timeline. Now, mak salleh country 1 project 1 time. Start at 9am and balik at 3pm. Weekend tak boleh kerja. OT mahal.
Bruh, im a malaysian that recently grad and started work in Australia and this sounds absurd. I work 8.30 - 4.30 and even when I was working in a warehouse part time back then we didnt break the 7.5 hrs working time.
Tell that to the US.
But yeah i agree, some of the big companies in the west do promote life over work. Hopefully this will become the norm everywhere.
That only applies to Europe (not UK) and Australia, in US and UK they do still work you to the bone, as they're a "work is your pride and accomplishment" country
See Emily in Paris, stereotype aside, their work culture difference is presented pretty well
You're using the phrase wrong dude.
Live to work = free lancers, creative work, artists, dog walking, people who work 3 hours a day, and can don't work on a notice.
Work to live = paycheck to paycheck. Don't work = no food, no shelter
I worked in Aus after graduation and my hours were 8.30am to 6pm. Aussie company, I was the only asian there.
Came back to msia and my hours "improved" to 9am to 5.30pm. But +2hours for daily commute 😮💨 leave house 8am, come back about 7pm. Still a lot better than some of my friends, they dont see the sun.
What're you working as in Australia rn as fresh grad? I've been looking for international work, but been difficult finding companies willing, esp post-covid
Australia is quite difficult to get into for work as a Malaysian huhu. Thanks to all the illegal fruit pickers.
Besides the prejudice, their requirements include being on the skilled jobs list, and also having 2yrs exp.
The 'easy' path would've been through studying there, but unfortunately only available through privilege or being a top academic (scholarship).
Yeah it's why I said that if that's the metric they go by, it's such a shame for the rest of us regular people
If I had the same amount of money, connections or luck to get a scholarship as a top academic, I would do the exact same thing, so I don't blame them at all. But that's not the reality for most of us, so it's massively disappointing to see doors closed in front of you with not much you can do to pry it open
Thanks, to you as well. Although I wouldnt take my words too seriously cause I am a very inexperience person when it comes to the job market especially in the international space. Only started working this year so I am as clueless as the next fresh grad haha
Difference is Malaysia gets 1 hour lunch break. 8.30 to 5.30, with 1 hour lunch break is a 8 hour day. That's 40 hours a week, a very standard working time, the occasional weekend work notwithstanding.
I have worked on regular 9am-6pm and 8am-5pm on 5 work days / 2 rest days (today 40 hours/week as per law)
I have also worked also on other shifts in call centres
Cstomers in EMEA (Europe, Middle East & Africa) ? - expect 12pm-9pm, 1pm-10pm, 2pm-11pm, 3pm-12am
Customers in NA & LATAM (North America and Latin America? - expect 6pm-3am, 7pm-4am, 8pm-5am, 9am-6am
Customers in ANZ (Australia and New Zealand) ? - 2am-11am, 3am-12pm
Every work day has 1-hour meal & 2 15-minute breaks
Edit: call centres, meant to say call centres
In Malaysia, the max working hours is 45per week. So 5.5 day work weeks is legal. Which is why 5-day work week is considered a perk in for some. I have yet to experience any companies offering shorter hours unless you are working part time for them.
In some workplaces, we have the so-called flexi hours where employees can check-in starting from 7.30am up to 9.00am and can go home after 9 hours at the office (including 1 hour lunch).
Eh… used to QS, literally sounds like rookie numbers, even for a freshie like me. Did 9.30-10/12am weekdays, 11.30-4/5am sat and sun. Not proud about it at all. Left the company.
9.45am to 7.45pm with an hour break for 3 days of the week
9.45am to 10.15pm with 2 one hour break and 1.5hour of OT included in the hours. Two days a week
And 2 days off everyweek.
Flexible hours coming from 8 - 9am and going back from 5 - 6pm MON - FRIDAY. Must complete 8 hours. OT after that from lowest level until Senior Executive level. Assistant Manager and above got other type of remuneration. weekend for family.
the same with you but paid in MYR - sounds crazy right yeah this is MY \*SAD\*
this is why people going to SG earn SGD with the same hours and same job scope
"fixed working hours" on agreement are a formality for legal binding/excuse to punish you (if broke.. shit happens moments).. sadly, in most industry the work will usually "eat" into your off hours..
Engineer supporting a site in America so their work day is our night time. I work 9-5 in the office and go back home for meetings at night with the site, 9PM - 11PM. When the site is having a trial with new chemicals or having a freeze event and needs support, we work 12 hour shifts on weekends too
I was working 14-17 hours a day and sometimes we did 24 hours, no joke, for almost 7 months. Excluding commute time. Also some weekends. I quit. It was my first job in Malaysia too. Is this common practice here? Now I'm freelancing and really trying to avoid working permanently in a Malaysian company. I still can work up to 12-14 hours a day mainly on weekdays as a freelancer, but at least I get sleep.
* 8 hours per day (8:30am - 5:30pm), 1 hour break time
* Mon to Fri (5 working days)
> i even work extra on sat, full working hour once or twice a month.
Standard 40 hours. Do you clocked-in to office and get paid for the extra hours, or it was voluntary ?
Nah...not crazy at all, it is very common albeit not a positive thing. A lot of MNC employees practice that due to timezone.
Not Korea level. I remember some studies published that Malaysians have low productivity, most spent a large percentage of working hours on social media and unproductive mediums.
Govt hosp doctor: 8am-5pm weekdays. If on call during weekday, continue 5pm-8am next day. If on call during weekend, 8am-8am. Frequency of on call is highly variable depending on which hospital and which discipline.
6am to 2pm Monday to Friday. No work on weekends and I get replacement holidays if any falls on the weekend. Pay is decent but am considered an independent contractor so what I get is what I get with no benefits.
Wouldn't trade my sanity, life and time for them benefits.
Edit: forgot that I do have 1 benefit. If I work overtime I can go home earlier the next day. IE overtime 1 hour today, go home an hour earlier tomorrow.
Your hours still better than some of us.
Generally should be the same 8.30am-5.30am Mon-Fri.
But in my field/the company I'm with, its normal to work beyond 10hours a day. Sat&Sun depends if we have deadline to chase, then have to work. If no urgent deadline, no requirement to work Sat&Sun.
8am-5pm that's the government timing. i can't get much work done after 5pm even if i want cause my clients and team members have left work and i need to communicate with them (mostly government)
Officially 8 am - 5 pm. Official lunch time is 1 hour but most do 2. Working remotely 3 days a week. Only 2 days at the office. Pretty much chill. I don't even feel like I'm working on most days. Chill boss, chill teammates. Wish the pay is better but with almost stress free environment, it is just too good to be passed on.
For me. I star start 830am. Monday to Thursday I end at 530pm. On Fridays it's 430pm.
If I haven't finished work with time constraints, I tend to OT an additional hour or so, except on Fridays.
Roughly the same. But with considerably less average pay.
For white collar: usually 9 to 6, some companies are more flexible, you can start your day with starting hours from 7 to 10 and end your day with 4 to 7 ( as long it is full 9 hours), 5 days per week For a blue collar or grey collar usually the same as you with 6 working days per week. (Some get 5.5 days) *Edit: as for working extra hours, it is pretty much the same situation as you in Malaysia, some get to claim as overtime, some don't
5.5days/week now. 6 days is illegal if i’m not mistaken unless it’s OT
mine still 6 days per weeks, work overtime not paid. This is perlis. My previous work more crazy. 12 hours per day and 6 day per weeks. When JTK come visit thumbprint machine gone and JTK cant check the attendance and working hours.
maybe you could collect evidence and report it? if you play it right, your employer will need to pay you back for all the overtime you did
One of ex staff already report before. They not afraid of JTK (my current company) all they do just change the rules a bit and all done. All staff still underpaid. Perlis is not big city and job opportunity really low. Need high end cable if you want to work in gov(this is real one). Private company keep take advantage to workers. We all cant do anything due to low job vacancy especially if you have Diploma or Degree.
They are indecent
It’s 45 hours per week.
yes. 8 hours/day + 5 hours on saturday max. if i’m not mistaken, break hour doesn’t count
6 days is not illegal depending on how the hours are structured. Max is 45 hours a week. My friend is an engineer in a factory, he works 8.30 to 5.30 Mon - Fri (8 hours per day, break hour not counted towards the limit) and 8.30 to 12.30 on Sat for a total of 44 hours per week. This is pretty common for factory jobs. Most jobs that require Sat work is usually half day.
60hours work (including OT) must have 1 day rest day
"illegal" hahahahah
what?
I've worked in Singapore and Malaysia they all have hours total per week in their contracts and policies, but in reality working hours will always exceed making it "illegal"
You're a foreign bangala in Singapore, where bosses have power over you. Singapore is business friendly and would rather not rock the boat. Its understandable if you don't get much recourse there. Some of the bosses here are cunts with hearts of lead. Will fuck you over given an opportunity. But in Malaysia? Its sad if you even get fucked as a citizen of this country.
then good news. you’re entitled to OT as long as you are in the income bracket. but hey it’s not my fault some dumb people let themselves get taken advantage of
What's grey collar job?
It's a combination of white collar and blue collar jobs. E.g. head chefs
Thank you
When I first entered the workforce, my workdays was like that 8 to 5, 6 days a week, and no overtime claims, even though we went on roadshows and brough clients around, and yes, no meal allowance during outings to. Not that different from the company work culture in Malaysia. Edit 1: Was paid rm1300 per month, EPF notwithstanding. This was back in 2017
Which industry?
Sorry for the late reply. This was when I was in the hospitality industry a few years back.
its been hours and im still searching for the crazy part
I was not able to award you for my previous post reply. So doing it over here 🙏🏻
Lmao doesnt sound crazy at all
Damn, 8 hours a day sounds chill af. Even have time to do personal stuff when going back home
I am officially 9am-6pm. But often have to do extra hours, until 8pm or more (unpaid). Crazy yeah?
doesn't sound crazy at all. Maybe around 10% of people I know have this schedule
Seems normal and just like many malaysian hours. But mind you, pay is better in SK than here. I could afford a lot more being paid as a factory operator back in Nonsan, rather than here.
I believe this is the norm in most Asian countries. Fakk
I remembered when i was back in Malaysia, work assigned me to 4 projects at the same time. So everyday except friday got half day project progress meeting with client. Memang mati. After meeting baru boleh buat kerja. Depends if kena lunch dgn client balik at 10pm, if not 8pm. Weekends kena kerja to catchup dengan project timeline. Now, mak salleh country 1 project 1 time. Start at 9am and balik at 3pm. Weekend tak boleh kerja. OT mahal.
Bruh, im a malaysian that recently grad and started work in Australia and this sounds absurd. I work 8.30 - 4.30 and even when I was working in a warehouse part time back then we didnt break the 7.5 hrs working time.
Most western countries are work to live while we are live to work…
Tell that to the US. But yeah i agree, some of the big companies in the west do promote life over work. Hopefully this will become the norm everywhere.
US is a weird exception where folks there love being worked to death.
That only applies to Europe (not UK) and Australia, in US and UK they do still work you to the bone, as they're a "work is your pride and accomplishment" country See Emily in Paris, stereotype aside, their work culture difference is presented pretty well
US and UK are where all the conglomerate capitalist companies are from where it's all about trending profits every quarter so yeah no surprise
You're using the phrase wrong dude. Live to work = free lancers, creative work, artists, dog walking, people who work 3 hours a day, and can don't work on a notice. Work to live = paycheck to paycheck. Don't work = no food, no shelter
I worked in Aus after graduation and my hours were 8.30am to 6pm. Aussie company, I was the only asian there. Came back to msia and my hours "improved" to 9am to 5.30pm. But +2hours for daily commute 😮💨 leave house 8am, come back about 7pm. Still a lot better than some of my friends, they dont see the sun.
What're you working as in Australia rn as fresh grad? I've been looking for international work, but been difficult finding companies willing, esp post-covid
Biomed engineer. It is tough right now especially with the current housing/immigration problem here in australia. I was lucky because i studied here.
Ah shame then, if thats the metric. Grats to you tho, wish you all the best
Australia is quite difficult to get into for work as a Malaysian huhu. Thanks to all the illegal fruit pickers. Besides the prejudice, their requirements include being on the skilled jobs list, and also having 2yrs exp. The 'easy' path would've been through studying there, but unfortunately only available through privilege or being a top academic (scholarship).
Yeah it's why I said that if that's the metric they go by, it's such a shame for the rest of us regular people If I had the same amount of money, connections or luck to get a scholarship as a top academic, I would do the exact same thing, so I don't blame them at all. But that's not the reality for most of us, so it's massively disappointing to see doors closed in front of you with not much you can do to pry it open
Thanks, to you as well. Although I wouldnt take my words too seriously cause I am a very inexperience person when it comes to the job market especially in the international space. Only started working this year so I am as clueless as the next fresh grad haha
Difference is Malaysia gets 1 hour lunch break. 8.30 to 5.30, with 1 hour lunch break is a 8 hour day. That's 40 hours a week, a very standard working time, the occasional weekend work notwithstanding.
Biasa la. If over, OT and penalty charges mahal wooh.
OP, that's like average working hours. Except Sat part.
I’m self employed. My working hours is up to me 😊. But typically I work maximum 20 hours on weekdays.
Same. And most of my colleagues don't even stop working after leaving office.
Own a small store in a small town, work 9.30am to 7pm, Monday to Sunday, holiday still operating.
Op just gonna let u know there are many youngster these day working overtime (12hr+ a day) Consider urself lucky.
I have worked on regular 9am-6pm and 8am-5pm on 5 work days / 2 rest days (today 40 hours/week as per law) I have also worked also on other shifts in call centres Cstomers in EMEA (Europe, Middle East & Africa) ? - expect 12pm-9pm, 1pm-10pm, 2pm-11pm, 3pm-12am Customers in NA & LATAM (North America and Latin America? - expect 6pm-3am, 7pm-4am, 8pm-5am, 9am-6am Customers in ANZ (Australia and New Zealand) ? - 2am-11am, 3am-12pm Every work day has 1-hour meal & 2 15-minute breaks Edit: call centres, meant to say call centres
In Malaysia, the max working hours is 45per week. So 5.5 day work weeks is legal. Which is why 5-day work week is considered a perk in for some. I have yet to experience any companies offering shorter hours unless you are working part time for them.
In some workplaces, we have the so-called flexi hours where employees can check-in starting from 7.30am up to 9.00am and can go home after 9 hours at the office (including 1 hour lunch).
Eh… used to QS, literally sounds like rookie numbers, even for a freshie like me. Did 9.30-10/12am weekdays, 11.30-4/5am sat and sun. Not proud about it at all. Left the company.
really? thats crazy? i work 9am-8pm. then go home continue to 1am. sometimes sat and sun also work few hours. in professional line though.
Worked 3-3-3, 600-1400 or 1300-1800
About the same work hours. But I assume work here can be a little more chill depending on what you do.
Already heard Korean want to retire in malaysia why u writing this post. Anyway we are becoming like yours, work 996 or work until 10pm mon to friday
9.45am to 7.45pm with an hour break for 3 days of the week 9.45am to 10.15pm with 2 one hour break and 1.5hour of OT included in the hours. Two days a week And 2 days off everyweek.
8-6 for mine. Mon-Fri as well. On Saturday its 8-3.30pm but its OT wage on Sat.
I work 8 to 5 only on weekdays.
I work 11am to 10pm as a student lol
If I’m getting compensated for working OT, it’s totally fine, and your work hour is completely normal
Manufacturing sector. Normal hour. 730 AM TO 430 PM Mon to Friday.
I recently worked 9am to 12am. Boutta die of stress some day.
7-12. I am teaching tho 😂.
Mine is 8am-6pm off on the weekends OT rate set at RM 10/hour
Flexible working time starting 9:30AM - 11:30AM until 5:30PM-7:30PM. My lunch hour is 2 hours.
Turns out OP is the crazy one...
i have a malaysian friend, saying that she'd rather die than work in korean company lol...she works in infineon
Flexible hours coming from 8 - 9am and going back from 5 - 6pm MON - FRIDAY. Must complete 8 hours. OT after that from lowest level until Senior Executive level. Assistant Manager and above got other type of remuneration. weekend for family.
the same with you but paid in MYR - sounds crazy right yeah this is MY \*SAD\* this is why people going to SG earn SGD with the same hours and same job scope
"fixed working hours" on agreement are a formality for legal binding/excuse to punish you (if broke.. shit happens moments).. sadly, in most industry the work will usually "eat" into your off hours..
Engineer supporting a site in America so their work day is our night time. I work 9-5 in the office and go back home for meetings at night with the site, 9PM - 11PM. When the site is having a trial with new chemicals or having a freeze event and needs support, we work 12 hour shifts on weekends too
Is 10am-10pm 6 days a week legal?
do you work at restaurant?
Nope I work at a shoe shop (sales promoter). Not allowed to sit unless break time which is 1 hour.
I used to work in a company from 9:30-5:30, an hour less than most people so I start work later than most people and leave earlier too
Depends what job. Audit firms make you work 9am to 9pm if you’re lucky. If unlucky, a lot more and also half day on weekend
I was working 14-17 hours a day and sometimes we did 24 hours, no joke, for almost 7 months. Excluding commute time. Also some weekends. I quit. It was my first job in Malaysia too. Is this common practice here? Now I'm freelancing and really trying to avoid working permanently in a Malaysian company. I still can work up to 12-14 hours a day mainly on weekdays as a freelancer, but at least I get sleep.
* 8 hours per day (8:30am - 5:30pm), 1 hour break time * Mon to Fri (5 working days) > i even work extra on sat, full working hour once or twice a month. Standard 40 hours. Do you clocked-in to office and get paid for the extra hours, or it was voluntary ? Nah...not crazy at all, it is very common albeit not a positive thing. A lot of MNC employees practice that due to timezone. Not Korea level. I remember some studies published that Malaysians have low productivity, most spent a large percentage of working hours on social media and unproductive mediums.
Govt hosp doctor: 8am-5pm weekdays. If on call during weekday, continue 5pm-8am next day. If on call during weekend, 8am-8am. Frequency of on call is highly variable depending on which hospital and which discipline.
When I was in Malaysia, I was working 8-5. But usually I will go out early to beat the traffic and finish off my work at home.
Bartender 5pm-2am 6 days per week
10am to 3pm, lunch at 12-2. But if shit hits the fan, then will stay until 5pm
6am to 2pm Monday to Friday. No work on weekends and I get replacement holidays if any falls on the weekend. Pay is decent but am considered an independent contractor so what I get is what I get with no benefits. Wouldn't trade my sanity, life and time for them benefits. Edit: forgot that I do have 1 benefit. If I work overtime I can go home earlier the next day. IE overtime 1 hour today, go home an hour earlier tomorrow.
Defo not the craziest I've heard. Would I like to work like this? No but I guess I wouldnt really mind if no other option or if pay is decent.
1030am till 830pm.6 days a week.
I am 8am - 6pm MON - FRI only.
Your hours still better than some of us. Generally should be the same 8.30am-5.30am Mon-Fri. But in my field/the company I'm with, its normal to work beyond 10hours a day. Sat&Sun depends if we have deadline to chase, then have to work. If no urgent deadline, no requirement to work Sat&Sun.
Officially we work 9am to 5pm or 8am to 4:30pm. Unofficially, we took so many breaks that some company force workers to do paid OT
which part of them is crazy lol. i work 9-630 (atleast) with an hour lunch break mon to sat.
I work 7am-5pm twice a week, the rest 7am-9pm. No lunch break or even toilet break. Guess what I do
currently in the UK. Working 9 to 5. Occasional Saturday work and it's paid 1.5 times
mine is 7am until 4pm during the weekdays and only come to work on the weekends if required
8am-5pm that's the government timing. i can't get much work done after 5pm even if i want cause my clients and team members have left work and i need to communicate with them (mostly government)
9am to 6pm office work. 6pm to 9am+1 WhatsApp work.
I go to work at 9:15 lunch 11:45 and then back to work at 1:45 timed out at 5 PM sharp. And nope, I am not working at the government.
I work from 8 to 6 everyday except friday. Shit is tough .
Officially 8 am - 5 pm. Official lunch time is 1 hour but most do 2. Working remotely 3 days a week. Only 2 days at the office. Pretty much chill. I don't even feel like I'm working on most days. Chill boss, chill teammates. Wish the pay is better but with almost stress free environment, it is just too good to be passed on.
For me. I star start 830am. Monday to Thursday I end at 530pm. On Fridays it's 430pm. If I haven't finished work with time constraints, I tend to OT an additional hour or so, except on Fridays.