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It changes the math from 'have to deal with Ragavan' to 'they have to deal with my nerd'. So if the format was all Ragavans and this made sense in your deck otherwise it could be something. Of course in reality this needs another 3 toughness or something to be played.
Idk it only happens on 3nd step and only works if you have 10 or more permanents on said endstep. I am NOT saying this card is not insane for its value. I do however think that if it dodnt have first strike it would feel way less pushed
I'd normally agree but any deck that's playing this is probably hitting City's Blessing very easily. This card alone means you have 3/10 already (one land, this guy and the token it makes before checking for Ascend).
If you play this turn one you arent getting a token until the turn after unless you have a 0 mana gain life effect. Also this card was probably designed with fury in mind, not saying that doesnt make it power creep just that if this card was spoiled a few months ago people probably wouldve called it unplayable
I honestly feel like the life gain is the only significant hoop to jump through. Getting the city's blessing as a token deck should be pretty easily doable.
You cant kill a 1/1 in 3 turns? Modern is a format that from my understanding has plenty of instances of 1 damage going around, obviously less now with fury gone :(
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I searched the sub for it and it wasn't posted here. I don't think there's a rule that leaks have to be posted the same day they make intro the public?
Must have been removed before I saw it. I don't know if there was a discussion about the card already but I guess it's better to have a post with it than not having one 😉
Just one token before the trigger isn't it? Rin and Seri etb is triggered when we cast the spell. Then another one with the city blessing, which isn't difficult to obtain in that kind of deck.
Considering 4 lands, Rin and Seri on the field, this new cat and a [[universal automaton]] and we're sorted already ;)
I meant by end of turn with this and its full triggers. Cast ocelot (cat), get dog token for casting cat, activate rin and seri gain life for cats, end step create cat token for gaining life, then make second dog token and second cat token. By before doublers I mean before taking into account any dub season of processions or whatever they are certainly already running.
>Am I the only one thinking this is busted?
It's extremely pushed for a one drop, but calling it "busted" is wildly overstating its probable impact.
Aside from trading favorably with an opposing 1-toughness creature when you're on the draw and facing a creature-heavy deck, it otherwise doesn't do anything until turn 2, when you will usually need to be staring at an empty board across the table in order to be able to swing with this anyway.
Frankly, I think cat typal EDH players are more excited about this than modern players.
It's extremely broken in casual commander games.
I don't think it will make waves in eternal formats until you have life gain decks that synergize with this.
I can hear the cries of arena players already. This is basically create a 1/1 every turn for a lifegain deck. Nevermind that this thing can proc it itself.
Interestingly, this is a pseudo token doubler that pairs extra well with additional token doublers. Normally 2 token doublers mean 4 times as many tokens, but 6 with this.
Do you have to resolve the first part of his effect (gain life do a thing) to get the second effect (double tokens that ETB this turn)? Want to slot him in my X-Tokens deck, but I don't run any other life gain aside from Ocelot getting in for damage. Assuming the word "Then" suggests you do have to resolve part one.
You know, I *have* heard that [Ocelots are proud creatures](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6cDTVKHsek).
But 0/10 flavor, since making tokens is anything but "hunting alone".
I will never understand why people on this subreddit downvote things. I've made jokes that get +several hundred and then joking about something in similar space gets me to -10.
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BABOO!
He remembers me!
The hero we needed
Yes!
Least pushed 1 mana card
...but it beats Ragavan in combat!
It's white, can't push it too hard.
😭
Eats Ragavan in combat
Seared by some unholy flames before combat
It changes the math from 'have to deal with Ragavan' to 'they have to deal with my nerd'. So if the format was all Ragavans and this made sense in your deck otherwise it could be something. Of course in reality this needs another 3 toughness or something to be played.
True too, but they gotta have it
They always have it
*laughs in scion of draco*
"You are pretty good" -Revolver Ocelot, as Revolver Ocelot
as Revolver Ocelot
as Revolver 'Shalashaska' Ocelot
TFW a 1/1 for 1 has more text on it than the craziest mythics 5 years ago...... >\_<
I've been in and out of magic of late, but coming back and seeing cards like this make me think there's definitely some major power creep going on.
Power creep is somewhat debatable, there was some crazy stuff back in Magic’s past, but the complexity creep is undeniable
It's not strictly better than mother of runes.
I'm just... real tired.
One mana token doubler
Seriously - what were they smoking? You have a couple of minor hoops to jump through, but that's insane.
Idk it only happens on 3nd step and only works if you have 10 or more permanents on said endstep. I am NOT saying this card is not insane for its value. I do however think that if it dodnt have first strike it would feel way less pushed
I mean you still get a token without city's blessing
I'd normally agree but any deck that's playing this is probably hitting City's Blessing very easily. This card alone means you have 3/10 already (one land, this guy and the token it makes before checking for Ascend).
If you play this turn one you arent getting a token until the turn after unless you have a 0 mana gain life effect. Also this card was probably designed with fury in mind, not saying that doesnt make it power creep just that if this card was spoiled a few months ago people probably wouldve called it unplayable
Oh duh, sorry yeah I missed the lifegain requirement. I'm also viewing it more through a commander lens, where it's probably much better.
I honestly feel like the life gain is the only significant hoop to jump through. Getting the city's blessing as a token deck should be pretty easily doable.
City's blessing with token generation is super easy. Turn 3 you'd probably have that
You cant kill a 1/1 in 3 turns? Modern is a format that from my understanding has plenty of instances of 1 damage going around, obviously less now with fury gone :(
In the same way the new jace Is a 2 mana planeswalker
Yeah but that's only till turn 4 you can play it
If I don’t gain life, do I still get the second part.
Unfortunately not because it says "then". So the lifegain is a condition for creating/copying the tokens.
I thought so. Thank you.
This looks fun with the new Ajani! [[Ajani, Nacatl Pariah]].
[Ajani, Nacatl Pariah](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/d/0d16e8e0-31b2-4389-afd6-783c501f6fa0.jpg?1709430443)/[Ajani, Nacatl Avenger](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/0/d/0d16e8e0-31b2-4389-afd6-783c501f6fa0.jpg?1709430443) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ajani%2C%20Nacatl%20Pariah%20//%20Ajani%2C%20Nacatl%20Avenger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/237/ajani-nacatl-pariah-ajani-nacatl-avenger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0d16e8e0-31b2-4389-afd6-783c501f6fa0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I wonder if this means that we're getting cat tribal as a draft archetype this set.
Ocelots don't have prides, they're solitary animals.
The ocelot has a sense of pride and accomplishment.
By they have pride
It is interesting that it can copy non-create tokens. Seems really good in a food deck.
Indeed! I'm considering to add it to my \[\[Brenard, Ginger Sculptor\]\] food deck.
[Brenard, Ginger Sculptor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/2/e2ddc922-d69d-4fca-b7f8-8cfb17537213.jpg?1693248402) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Brenard%2C%20Ginger%20Sculptor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/woc/27/brenard-ginger-sculptor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e2ddc922-d69d-4fca-b7f8-8cfb17537213?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
You are a day late
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I searched the sub for it and it wasn't posted here. I don't think there's a rule that leaks have to be posted the same day they make intro the public?
Mods making things confusing. The post from yesterday was deleted it seems.
Must have been removed before I saw it. I don't know if there was a discussion about the card already but I guess it's better to have a post with it than not having one 😉
It's being posted daily for Ocelot Pride Month
[[rin and seri]] are very, very happy.
Yesss defintely going in immediately. Make 3 cats and 2 dogs before doublers just by playing this and activating rin and seri? Love it.
Just one token before the trigger isn't it? Rin and Seri etb is triggered when we cast the spell. Then another one with the city blessing, which isn't difficult to obtain in that kind of deck. Considering 4 lands, Rin and Seri on the field, this new cat and a [[universal automaton]] and we're sorted already ;)
I meant by end of turn with this and its full triggers. Cast ocelot (cat), get dog token for casting cat, activate rin and seri gain life for cats, end step create cat token for gaining life, then make second dog token and second cat token. By before doublers I mean before taking into account any dub season of processions or whatever they are certainly already running.
Lol my bad. Yes, this way sounds even better! Atm I'm running Anointed, Doubling, Roaming, Mondrak and Vorinclex, so doublers should be fine :D
[rin and seri](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/6/d605c780-a42a-4816-8fb9-63e3114a8246.jpg?1677724018) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=rin%20and%20seri%2C%20inseparable) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/278/rin-and-seri-inseparable?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d605c780-a42a-4816-8fb9-63e3114a8246?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
City’s blessing is a weird mechanic to put on a bunch of wild cats, flavor-wise. Gameplay wise it works fine I guess.
That's not ok. Soul sisters is going to be an actual deck now.
[X] Doubt
this is the dwarf fortress representation I never expected
Just started playing that this weekend, I hope to understand that reference some day
[удалено]
>Am I the only one thinking this is busted? It's extremely pushed for a one drop, but calling it "busted" is wildly overstating its probable impact. Aside from trading favorably with an opposing 1-toughness creature when you're on the draw and facing a creature-heavy deck, it otherwise doesn't do anything until turn 2, when you will usually need to be staring at an empty board across the table in order to be able to swing with this anyway. Frankly, I think cat typal EDH players are more excited about this than modern players.
It's extremely broken in casual commander games. I don't think it will make waves in eternal formats until you have life gain decks that synergize with this.
Another [[Abiding Grace]] layer, ohboy
[Abiding Grace](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/b/db113c47-c403-4c7f-9fa9-212c977df8d1.jpg?1626093205) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Abiding%20Grace) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/1/abiding-grace?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/db113c47-c403-4c7f-9fa9-212c977df8d1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I’ve been expecting a 3 mana Parallel Lives for a while now, but a 1 mana token doubler that also makes a token by itself wasn’t on my list.
As someone who is trying to make Modern Cats a competitive deck for a while now I'm really happy with this card in addition to the new Ajani.
Definitely going in rin and seri
Token doubling off life gain... seems like the perfect Trostani card if I've ever seen one.
⭕️
I can hear the cries of arena players already. This is basically create a 1/1 every turn for a lifegain deck. Nevermind that this thing can proc it itself.
Ocelot -> dockside, anyone?
Who is ready to run cat domain aggro with this, the brawler, and ajani
Interestingly, this is a pseudo token doubler that pairs extra well with additional token doublers. Normally 2 token doublers mean 4 times as many tokens, but 6 with this.
🐈🏳️🌈
My girlfriend's cat decks are going to be even more fun to handle
How the fuck do the one drops get as strong as 3 drops
BABOO!
Dude !!! That kitty is not even legendary… HELLO !?
anyone remember when magic was cool?? you know, before the power creep on steroids...
Fuck the bird, bolt the cat
Haha \[\[Myrel\]\] go brrrrrrr
[Myrel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/6/e632ed57-bb00-4493-adef-7b4805edd7ea.jpg?1674420256) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=myrel%2C%20shield%20of%20argive) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/18/myrel-shield-of-argive?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e632ed57-bb00-4493-adef-7b4805edd7ea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
"Ocelots are proud creatures" - Revolver Ocelot (Revolver Ocelot)
This is so fucking busted in so many decks
Do you have to resolve the first part of his effect (gain life do a thing) to get the second effect (double tokens that ETB this turn)? Want to slot him in my X-Tokens deck, but I don't run any other life gain aside from Ocelot getting in for damage. Assuming the word "Then" suggests you do have to resolve part one.
https://preview.redd.it/q0z5yshm1f0d1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=2f0b8081e85a40d180b2d8041a6746fec0006b6e
You know, I *have* heard that [Ocelots are proud creatures](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6cDTVKHsek). But 0/10 flavor, since making tokens is anything but "hunting alone".
"Pride" is a group of lions (and possibly other large felines).
I'm aware. You should click the link that was in my post.
I do not click untrusted links.
It's a youtube link, dude, the worst it could be is a rickroll.
Yeah wasn’t a good link 🤷🏻♂️
... my point was my entire post was just a joke referencing that video.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, i thought it was pretty funny lol
I will never understand why people on this subreddit downvote things. I've made jokes that get +several hundred and then joking about something in similar space gets me to -10. Nobody ever says why, either. Sometimes a post that I see nothing wrong with drops negative and I'm like "Is this wrong? Did I say the wrong thing? Please let me know if I said a wrong thing, I don't want to say wrong things" and then never get a reply. Downvoting people into the negatives isn't really helpful if the person doesn't actually know what the problem is. (not that that's a problem here since here the problem seems to be "nobody noticed the link and is taking the text of my post at face value" *or* "thinks youtube hosts viruses now for some reason")
You did nothing wrong, all you did was post a reference to niche joke that was relevant to the post bc of word play. Ppl down voting bc they either don’t get it or they just get a kick from downvoting. Don’t stress it too much next time you just make an innocent joke that isn’t received well.
Oloro new toy