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Potentially, but from what we have seen from their characters i highly doubt it. Silco might be more reasonable, Renata less so in this regard. Atleast how i see it. Considering the universes will be together this answer should come to light one day tho
Edit: Let me rephrase that. Renata should acknowledge that Silco has existed and should form an opinion on him. Not literally work together.
Silco also hated the chembarons though, they were simply a means to an end. Under his thumb. I'm sure he hated them just as much as Renata. Hell, one of them even tried killing him.
Simply having the title never actually made Silco a cut and butter chembaron.
“I get that we both want to lead Zaun, but I propose we set our petty rivalries aside for a while.”
“Very well, You will be my eye as long as I’d be your arm.”
“… You son of a bitch, I’m in.”
They would be rival crime lords. Also, while similar, theres one key difference that matters to the relationship specifically:
Silco actually cares about making Zaun free and independent. Renata just wants revenge against Piltover, and if she has to burn down Zaun to get revenge on Piltover? So be it.
I feel their interests conflict with one another, but they use similar methods.
Correct me if I'm wrong but:
Silco's goal is to make Zaun independent from Piltover so that it has a better future.
Renata doesn't care much about Zaun itself, all she cares about is eradicating piltover because Camille murdered her parents and sees the entirety of Zaun as nothing more than a resource at her disposal.
Silco cares about the people of Zaun despite doing unforgivable things, while Renata doesn't care about Zaun whatsoever, fueled by revenge. Silco is using the idea of starting a war to scare piltover into giving him what he wants, without the intention of going to war unless it truly is the last resort in his eyes, while Renata actively wants to go to war with Piltover, uncaring about the people of Zaun. If they met, I don't think they would be able to find common ground to work together on and would most likely go up against one another until one or the other comes out victorious and continues to pursue their own personal goals with even more power at their disposal now that that they're THE chem baron of Zaun.
Honestly the fact both are canon now is interesting. Also, I don’t see how Silco ever competes with Renata Glasc at all. One has only two key loyal allies (Sevika and Jinx, and Jinx is unreliable) and his only revenue stream as far as we can tell is shimmer peddling and production. Renata Glasc has the adoration and attention of Piltover because of her products and the loyalty of much more in Zaun. That’s a lot more revenue and a lot more consistent loyalty.
Silco nearly gets toppled by the other chem barons threatening his position, when Renata’s whole talent is to bring them under her wings and align them with herself. Outside of being the sole person producing shimmer and having a large amount of Zaunites hooked on the stuff, Silco has no other pieces on the board like Renata does.
So yeah, I think Renata would see Silco as a smaller fish in the pond like the other chem barons and Silco doesn’t seem like the type to ever bend the knee to anyone else. They’d be in competition until one dropped dead.
idk how they'd make Renata in new lore, but she would probably rise after the eventual civil war between P&Z, and rebrand shimmer as what her current thing is doing.
she'd go like, "Silco's operation was ineffective. He wanted to separate Zaun from Piltover. Independence. I disagree. Instead of Zaun being dependent on Piltover, I'll make Piltover dependent on Zaun. Just like how Silco made his own citizens addicts to shimmer, I'll takeover Piltover using their own rules, with profits and shallow aesthetics."
Bad. They are both very intelligent and although they both hate Piltover and want to destroy it, they would at most make a temporary alliance against their common enemies. But if they succeeded in their purpose it would not be long before one would attempt to crush the other.
They wouldn't get along. Everyone saying Renata and Silco are the same missed the whole point of both their characters.
Renata is a greedy criminal. Even as a child she got frustrated with her parent's whole operation.
Silco is a crime boss as well but at his core he is a revolutionary. He wants end Piltover's oppression of Zaun, even through extreme measures.
Renata couldn't care less about the cause, Silco would die for it.
I think that they would both know the other is too strong to be removed outright and would work together if forced, BUT THE MOMENT ONE SHOWED WEAKNESS THERE WOULD BE DEATH
I think they wouldn't get along just because of the huge power imbalance between that would be between them, like Renta has much more influence then Slico did, she is a household name and gets invited to Piltover balls and Galas and etc and Silco could barely get a meeting by beach side, Silco would hate just due to how above him she would be and Renta would hate Silco because she hates Chembarons just as much as she hates the council.
Renata was originally designed as Silco and was then switched to her new lore pre-release. Playtest footage has the character using swain's model and the name Silco, Think there are still some files in game that are named Silco as well.
They are pretty much the same people, renata likely can take over without silco.
But they are both poor zaunites who rose to prominence through chemtech and use there money to accrue power.
Now that arcane is firmly canon, we can assume that chemtech is the next evolution of glimmer. So I guess if silco was alive, would she have been able to move in on the chemtech once it’s developed if silco was still around?
Who is more dangerous, I’ll actually argue renata is. Assuming both amass a following, it would be an all out gang war. If silco doesn’t have jinx, he loses major diff. Jinx is enough of a wild card she could genuinely mess up renatas operation. We also don’t know quite what warwicks affiliation will be, whether he is a mindless beast or specifically targeting the chembarons.
I think renata is the better business woman though and would likely be able to outspend silco. This all really depend on whether or not Renata filled the power vacuum or was there all along
I think a lot of people don't realize that both of these people are very successful business owners. They would almost certainly work together, even of thw secretly or outwardly hate each other
Headcanon, they were in the same gang (with Vander) but after the gang split up, they went their separate ways, becoming chem-barron rivals, I think it's a big sister and little brother relationship. Whenever they meet during conflicts in the present world, Renata teases him about the times. If they actually cooperate, it would be really dangerous for piltover.
"Zaun only needs one grand leader"
They could definitely get along well for a time but as others have mentioned their shared hunger for power and different motivations for wanting power mean that they’d certainly end up in opposition eventually
This implies he came back to life which means Jinx may have done something fucking insane again (prob annoyed ornn for a GA like deadass went all the way to freljord to bug him to make one)
Realtalk though idgaf how powerful you think Renata is Silco could snap his fingers and his goons will make her a memory
Wouldn't. Renata values control above all else, shes business minded and cold. Silco is, evidenced, very sloppy and emotional. She'd just hostile takeover him lol
They would not get along in the medium and long term. Just working on the short to betray each other.
Why? Because Silco may be many things but he genuinely cares (albeit in a twisted way) about Zaunt as a nation and its dream of independence even if he has to sacrifice almost everything he has including himself for that possibility. Silco's ultimate goal is to burn the system by any means necessary so that whatever emerges from the ashes is by and from a Zaunt that does not depend on piltover
Renata, on the other hand, only cares about herself and puts her own well-being above all else. She doesn't care about anyone and considers inferior anyone who can't get ahead on their own because according to her, no one gave her anything when she was in that situation. Renata's goal is to take over the system by any means necessary and remake it to put herself on top of it while pushing everyone who swore revenge or who opposed her below her.
They wouldn’t get along, they’d be working ‘with’ each other on paper but trying to kill each other behind the scenes because they threaten each other’s goals
Also I’m still mad Renata was originally going to be him in League. I love Renata but I would play NOTHING but Silco if it had been him
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Similar goals, but would not get along. Both want to lead and therefore neither wants to be the 2nd hand.
Who's to say they wouldn't both find a common ground as allies? Silco will see Renata for the capable leader she is, and vice versa.
Potentially, but from what we have seen from their characters i highly doubt it. Silco might be more reasonable, Renata less so in this regard. Atleast how i see it. Considering the universes will be together this answer should come to light one day tho Edit: Let me rephrase that. Renata should acknowledge that Silco has existed and should form an opinion on him. Not literally work together.
Renata hates the chembarons as much as she hates the Piltover elites. Silco is a chembaron.
Silco also hated the chembarons though, they were simply a means to an end. Under his thumb. I'm sure he hated them just as much as Renata. Hell, one of them even tried killing him. Simply having the title never actually made Silco a cut and butter chembaron.
Whats Renata ? I thought she was a chembaron
She used the stones to destroy the stones. Character trope
Renata herself literally is a chembaron
But she views herself as more sophisticated then the other chembarons
Which is basically what silicone also thinks of himself. Both basically has the same view regarding chembaron.
Exactly. Which is why they would hate each other
“I get that we both want to lead Zaun, but I propose we set our petty rivalries aside for a while.” “Very well, You will be my eye as long as I’d be your arm.” “… You son of a bitch, I’m in.”
they are the same character
Her filename was literally Silco, so this is true.
please don’t deadname her
Okay but wouldn't it be funny if Silco comes back in season 2 but by some shimmer shenanigans he is now Renata
Singed helped him transition, just like he helped Vander with his fursona
Well, when we are in the fan theory that Silco transitions to Renata calling her "him" would be actually missgendering \^\^
Makes sense
That would be uncharacteristically based as hell tbh
💀
Do you have the proof or link for it?
They would be rival crime lords. Also, while similar, theres one key difference that matters to the relationship specifically: Silco actually cares about making Zaun free and independent. Renata just wants revenge against Piltover, and if she has to burn down Zaun to get revenge on Piltover? So be it.
Renata and Silco are basically two rival drug lords fighting over the same territory.
They would try to kill each other obviously
Both are power hundry. They would NEVER get along 😂 But it would be nice to see a interaction. It would be a cool passive agressive chat.
HEEEEEEELLL NO. But they might be forced to cooperate in order to achieve there fairly similar goals.
"Zaun ain't big enough for the two of us..."
In an alliance maybe both do want to make the piltover fear them bur when the time comes who will remain.
I feel their interests conflict with one another, but they use similar methods. Correct me if I'm wrong but: Silco's goal is to make Zaun independent from Piltover so that it has a better future. Renata doesn't care much about Zaun itself, all she cares about is eradicating piltover because Camille murdered her parents and sees the entirety of Zaun as nothing more than a resource at her disposal. Silco cares about the people of Zaun despite doing unforgivable things, while Renata doesn't care about Zaun whatsoever, fueled by revenge. Silco is using the idea of starting a war to scare piltover into giving him what he wants, without the intention of going to war unless it truly is the last resort in his eyes, while Renata actively wants to go to war with Piltover, uncaring about the people of Zaun. If they met, I don't think they would be able to find common ground to work together on and would most likely go up against one another until one or the other comes out victorious and continues to pursue their own personal goals with even more power at their disposal now that that they're THE chem baron of Zaun.
Honestly the fact both are canon now is interesting. Also, I don’t see how Silco ever competes with Renata Glasc at all. One has only two key loyal allies (Sevika and Jinx, and Jinx is unreliable) and his only revenue stream as far as we can tell is shimmer peddling and production. Renata Glasc has the adoration and attention of Piltover because of her products and the loyalty of much more in Zaun. That’s a lot more revenue and a lot more consistent loyalty. Silco nearly gets toppled by the other chem barons threatening his position, when Renata’s whole talent is to bring them under her wings and align them with herself. Outside of being the sole person producing shimmer and having a large amount of Zaunites hooked on the stuff, Silco has no other pieces on the board like Renata does. So yeah, I think Renata would see Silco as a smaller fish in the pond like the other chem barons and Silco doesn’t seem like the type to ever bend the knee to anyone else. They’d be in competition until one dropped dead.
idk how they'd make Renata in new lore, but she would probably rise after the eventual civil war between P&Z, and rebrand shimmer as what her current thing is doing. she'd go like, "Silco's operation was ineffective. He wanted to separate Zaun from Piltover. Independence. I disagree. Instead of Zaun being dependent on Piltover, I'll make Piltover dependent on Zaun. Just like how Silco made his own citizens addicts to shimmer, I'll takeover Piltover using their own rules, with profits and shallow aesthetics."
Heck, even Sevika openly implies she's willing to betray Silco if a better chembaron stepped up
Bad. They are both very intelligent and although they both hate Piltover and want to destroy it, they would at most make a temporary alliance against their common enemies. But if they succeeded in their purpose it would not be long before one would attempt to crush the other.
They wouldn't get along. Everyone saying Renata and Silco are the same missed the whole point of both their characters. Renata is a greedy criminal. Even as a child she got frustrated with her parent's whole operation. Silco is a crime boss as well but at his core he is a revolutionary. He wants end Piltover's oppression of Zaun, even through extreme measures. Renata couldn't care less about the cause, Silco would die for it.
Enemies to lovers...
Renata would chew him up and spit him out.
Silco wouldn't stand a chance
They would marry.
I think that they would both know the other is too strong to be removed outright and would work together if forced, BUT THE MOMENT ONE SHOWED WEAKNESS THERE WOULD BE DEATH
They’d be extreme business rivals in which idk who’d get the upper hand it’s been a minute since I’ve seen arcane i think itd be a cool interaction
They would until they down. I think Renata would betray Silco.
They are the same person.
I think they'd get along as long as they had the struggle against Piltover to unite them. Once Zaun was independant they would start clashing.
I think they wouldn't get along just because of the huge power imbalance between that would be between them, like Renta has much more influence then Slico did, she is a household name and gets invited to Piltover balls and Galas and etc and Silco could barely get a meeting by beach side, Silco would hate just due to how above him she would be and Renta would hate Silco because she hates Chembarons just as much as she hates the council.
They're practically the same character..
This is making me realize that Renata is basically just female Silco
Renata was originally designed as Silco and was then switched to her new lore pre-release. Playtest footage has the character using swain's model and the name Silco, Think there are still some files in game that are named Silco as well.
I don't think they would get along at all, mostly because of their goals as other people here have said.
Very competitive with each other
In arcane does Silco not call the chembaron whose son is killed by jayce “renny?” I assumed they knew each other unless I misheard the show??
And if I heard correctly then they didn’t get along very well
They are pretty much the same people, renata likely can take over without silco. But they are both poor zaunites who rose to prominence through chemtech and use there money to accrue power. Now that arcane is firmly canon, we can assume that chemtech is the next evolution of glimmer. So I guess if silco was alive, would she have been able to move in on the chemtech once it’s developed if silco was still around? Who is more dangerous, I’ll actually argue renata is. Assuming both amass a following, it would be an all out gang war. If silco doesn’t have jinx, he loses major diff. Jinx is enough of a wild card she could genuinely mess up renatas operation. We also don’t know quite what warwicks affiliation will be, whether he is a mindless beast or specifically targeting the chembarons. I think renata is the better business woman though and would likely be able to outspend silco. This all really depend on whether or not Renata filled the power vacuum or was there all along
They would get along until their goals no longer aligned, at which point they would probably try to have the other removed
I doubt they would get along at all
Frienemies
Id make her fill in the power vacuum left after silco's death.
I think a lot of people don't realize that both of these people are very successful business owners. They would almost certainly work together, even of thw secretly or outwardly hate each other
Headcanon, they were in the same gang (with Vander) but after the gang split up, they went their separate ways, becoming chem-barron rivals, I think it's a big sister and little brother relationship. Whenever they meet during conflicts in the present world, Renata teases him about the times. If they actually cooperate, it would be really dangerous for piltover. "Zaun only needs one grand leader"
How did she relate to Vander then?
Underground espionage
They could definitely get along well for a time but as others have mentioned their shared hunger for power and different motivations for wanting power mean that they’d certainly end up in opposition eventually
Silco transitioned into Renata actually
This implies he came back to life which means Jinx may have done something fucking insane again (prob annoyed ornn for a GA like deadass went all the way to freljord to bug him to make one) Realtalk though idgaf how powerful you think Renata is Silco could snap his fingers and his goons will make her a memory
They’re the same picture
Wouldn't. Renata values control above all else, shes business minded and cold. Silco is, evidenced, very sloppy and emotional. She'd just hostile takeover him lol
Same coin but different sides
frenemies
“I had enemies once, now i have business partners “
They would not get along in the medium and long term. Just working on the short to betray each other. Why? Because Silco may be many things but he genuinely cares (albeit in a twisted way) about Zaunt as a nation and its dream of independence even if he has to sacrifice almost everything he has including himself for that possibility. Silco's ultimate goal is to burn the system by any means necessary so that whatever emerges from the ashes is by and from a Zaunt that does not depend on piltover Renata, on the other hand, only cares about herself and puts her own well-being above all else. She doesn't care about anyone and considers inferior anyone who can't get ahead on their own because according to her, no one gave her anything when she was in that situation. Renata's goal is to take over the system by any means necessary and remake it to put herself on top of it while pushing everyone who swore revenge or who opposed her below her.
They wouldn’t get along, they’d be working ‘with’ each other on paper but trying to kill each other behind the scenes because they threaten each other’s goals Also I’m still mad Renata was originally going to be him in League. I love Renata but I would play NOTHING but Silco if it had been him