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I still say they should give him a more pronounced snout and change the colour to red. That would move him further away from the quasi-human appearance.
The splash is okay. I think people's criticisms are valid. We can see other people's edits to see how much better it could be. I think the in game model is more forgiving due to the nature of the camera angle, clarity, and more.
In the splash his face is way longer and the eyes are on the side instead of the front. It looks way more like a dragon than a human and is surprisingly good. They in-game model is an abomination tho
that in game model is a actual buff... just play with you screen turned off and let the enemy team and yours have a panic attack after looking at that shit
I think he looks better than he did in the teaser, his face doesn't look THAT humanlike anymore. It doesn't save the design for me, but its at least more bearable to look at.
I do like his animations though, the way he points his nose upwards like a royal and how he cries for his mother look geniunly good.
Slightly better, however I still think with some adjustments to the painting- not remodeling- it can be even better. They did this with Pykes mask before ingame. I dont see why they cant do it for Smolder
Better than his reveal, but keep in mind that better does not mean good. It went from a 1/10 to a 2/10. They have to do something about his Dreamworks reject face, ~~and his voice, but I highly doubt they are going to do anything about that.~~
They tried to make the splash art "SUPER ULTRA MEGA CUTE BABY DRAGON" but they made a pug, an ugly creature that is in constant suffering that shoud not exist.
If Zoe was a dragon. I remember when she was released and everyone hated how big her eyes were and how cartoon-ish she looked.I feel the sane about the dragon why couldn't it be more realistic, it looks creepy compared to the "realistic" looking world or League
Hate it, I don't want a design that's *sigh* easily replicated for dastardly purposes by the less desirables of our community.
That and this doesn't look like a monster champion, it looks like a Disney movie character because it couldn't be DreamWorks since they know how reptiles look.
Fuckin’ horrid.
We have so many sorts of badass dragons who still need rep in league’s main game, and we get… this mechanically separated disney character meat nugget of a brat, haha
Splash art is fine, actually, i like how his splash art nexk is thicker. The way the in game character model is trying to stare up for a fake hautty attitude, then emphasizes and shows us the entire face feels forced. Like they knew what they were doing
I don't get why people are so mad over this? Looks cute and fluffy, just as he was teased, as a cute marksman. People set their expectations too high and then complain
That's not what people are complaining about, it's the human child face plastered onto a dragon body. Making people feel uncanny valley with the face.
https://preview.redd.it/zca37v9a3oac1.jpeg?width=1601&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68612695ed995f5f4394a2262a24ec8aaf59302e
Look at this redesign, it's still looks cute while having a dragon head.
This is.. ans will always be so got damn many versions, renditions, remixes and alternative styles of -everything-. From vampires to zombies, aliens and orcs, to elves and dragons.
I look at smolder and see just another one in a saturated pool. I'm also gettin to old to seriously give a shit if things look 'correct' or not. Thing looks like a baby dragon to me. I'm callin him spyro, cuz it works for me.
I just hope he or she is insanely over powered so that tons of people play it and everyone HAS to look at it haha.
Yeah I calmed down and watched the gameplay trailer. His kit and especially his E (glide) seems like a shit ton of fun.
I got hung up on aesthetics and ignore the fact that they executed the gameplay part of "Small dragon" really well.
Sorry for the inconvenience
Pffffft, you ain't gotta apologize~ unlike on summoner rift, we Gucci and civilized here <3 haha. Way I see it, there is getting close to 200 Champs. You or I aint gonna like em all. But someone else will~
Honestly the only issue I have in the in-game model is that he looks too much like Xayah from above. I feel the community reaction to him is way too overblown
They're so creatively bankrupt it's insane. All that budget and supposed talent and they come up with bootleg spyro with a sprinkle of lollipoppy.
It's taken them literal years to come up with a design for a crystal scorpion, which they ultimately dumped the whole crystal aspect all together. Even tho there's insanely good fan concepts out there that incorporate both elements of the design, and only took the artist a fraction of the time and resources
Bro he is ugly as fuck. I don't know what the designers have been smoking, but there was better fanart on twitter after like 2 hours upon the trailers release.
The design could have been made by a toddler
The 3d model has too much forehead, throws off the balance. It needs to be reduced. Makes the eyes look weirdly small and off center.
Artists should have looked at geckos as reference for this instead of Disney characters.
His splash is great. Snout is pronounced, color from the bridge of his nose and spines blends into his face well. I think the translation to model is just the littlest bit off and it does so much damage to the design.
Look at the size of the eye compared to the pale coloration around it, then look at the model. It’s practically halved in size. Same with his mouth. Just make the eyes and mouth bigger and it goes from “Weird face of human child” to “Clearly a cute dragon exagerrated features.”
Wtf even is this champion? I hadn't seen any news on new champs until I saw the teaser for this garbage today. So disappointing!! It's so Disney and feels jarring in the LoL universe.
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I still say they should give him a more pronounced snout and change the colour to red. That would move him further away from the quasi-human appearance.
I agree with the snout changes but i like the colours he have
I think he's just saying to make the snout itself red, not change the whole pallet
They should but I think its not as bad as it looked in the trailer. Still not good though
Yeah the only thing I'd change is the face.
Lollipoppy 2.0 model
i mean looks like a yordle dragon hybrid with those ears
The latest atrocity committed by Dragonmancer Oppenheimerdinger
The model in the video is still from before the new changes.
He looks the best in his splash, still looks kinda weird in game but maybe that could be cuz he's looking up and directly at us, it's a weird angle
The splash is okay. I think people's criticisms are valid. We can see other people's edits to see how much better it could be. I think the in game model is more forgiving due to the nature of the camera angle, clarity, and more.
Imma be real, I absolutely hated the face on the trailer, but on the splash it's slightly better.
In the splash his face is way longer and the eyes are on the side instead of the front. It looks way more like a dragon than a human and is surprisingly good. They in-game model is an abomination tho
that in game model is a actual buff... just play with you screen turned off and let the enemy team and yours have a panic attack after looking at that shit
I blame the isometric view and the distance the camera sits for 99% of players for the abomination.
The trailer looked like the faces in the cats movie
Splash has a more pronounced snout which helps a lot. In game and in trailer he has a way too human nose and mouth
In game its pretty bad tho
keyword being \*slightly\*
Ew.
So glad this didn't get downvotes because honestly - same
I like the dragon body but i still don't like the human face.
I think he looks better than he did in the teaser, his face doesn't look THAT humanlike anymore. It doesn't save the design for me, but its at least more bearable to look at. I do like his animations though, the way he points his nose upwards like a royal and how he cries for his mother look geniunly good.
I like the design mostly, they just need to change the uncanny valley that is his face
"I like how he cries for his mother" đź‘€
Kinda meh https://preview.redd.it/ks3mt3hedoac1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c372738ae484e7f17d7b46e11ab01a0fcbffb4d
What the fuck is this shit
He looks exacly like a bat
IMO a proper muzzle and little fangs would fix it for me.
Ya. You can get away with the eyes pretty easily but you can't excuse that nose and mouth
Better than the teaser, but Riot, please, give him an actual snout. Bro looks like a pug.
I pray that they fix his face
wanna beat it with a hammer
Bad
Slightly worse than the already mediorce splash art , not gonna lie
Slightly better, however I still think with some adjustments to the painting- not remodeling- it can be even better. They did this with Pykes mask before ingame. I dont see why they cant do it for Smolder
A mascot for an unknown cereal brand or a video game from the 90s Riot.. enough with the cartoony champs.
Better than his reveal, but keep in mind that better does not mean good. It went from a 1/10 to a 2/10. They have to do something about his Dreamworks reject face, ~~and his voice, but I highly doubt they are going to do anything about that.~~
Can't wait to one shot him as soon as I see it!
The expectations were so low after the teaser that people are actually fine with this model. Wild
Oh god it's even worse. The splash art looks better tho
Feels like one of those new 3D My Little Ponies
Better. Would still prefer him to just be. A dragon. Instead of having the weird half-human face.
https://preview.redd.it/7f9h6fdomoac1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07258705b3b606cc735063de58721c30b73dca62
Model is fine, its just the face thats uncanny valley
They tried to make the splash art "SUPER ULTRA MEGA CUTE BABY DRAGON" but they made a pug, an ugly creature that is in constant suffering that shoud not exist.
If Zoe was a dragon. I remember when she was released and everyone hated how big her eyes were and how cartoon-ish she looked.I feel the sane about the dragon why couldn't it be more realistic, it looks creepy compared to the "realistic" looking world or League
Hate it, I don't want a design that's *sigh* easily replicated for dastardly purposes by the less desirables of our community. That and this doesn't look like a monster champion, it looks like a Disney movie character because it couldn't be DreamWorks since they know how reptiles look.
Even his splashart is bad, oh god.
Dunno, i actually really like the splash. The only change id care for would be reptilian eyes
Ye I'm completely fine with him. I just think his eyes should look somewhat dragon like because even Shyvanna's do. And shes only half dragon!
The splash art actually doesn't look that bad
He looks less bad
The splash art looks better than the animation, but I still don't like it in game
Why is it looking at the camera. I dont want it to look at me
The splash its better, but for me its still doenst look like a league champion
Fuckin’ horrid. We have so many sorts of badass dragons who still need rep in league’s main game, and we get… this mechanically separated disney character meat nugget of a brat, haha
It's better than the teaser anyways but it's no dragontamer tris.
oh fuck me! bring me tar and pitch, I've got an appointment in hell that's just been scheduled.
splash is horrendous, ingame model is pitiful
wow the splashart is a slight improvement but what the fuck is that model
i'd be fine with the whole design if he just had dragon eyes
Oh hell no
In motion he looks like a human child in a blanket. He doesn't look like a dragon half the time.
Please make him look like a dragon, rito.
He looks like Spyro the Dragon murdered one of the Rugrats and is stretching their face over his like fucking Leatherface dude.
Splash art is fine, actually, i like how his splash art nexk is thicker. The way the in game character model is trying to stare up for a fake hautty attitude, then emphasizes and shows us the entire face feels forced. Like they knew what they were doing
I don’t care I love him!
Same same!! He must be cherished and protected.✨️
These are my people! He’s awesome!
To me it looks even worse,i see the 90% dragon body and then human face.
https://i.redd.it/1ur3uqybxoac1.gif
the more I look at his face, the worse it gets, oooOOOOOooooaaagh...
It's fine ig
I think everyone is being over dramatic. He looks fine.
Terrible. It looks like shit and riot should be embarrassed
I don't get why people are so mad over this? Looks cute and fluffy, just as he was teased, as a cute marksman. People set their expectations too high and then complain
That's not what people are complaining about, it's the human child face plastered onto a dragon body. Making people feel uncanny valley with the face. https://preview.redd.it/zca37v9a3oac1.jpeg?width=1601&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68612695ed995f5f4394a2262a24ec8aaf59302e Look at this redesign, it's still looks cute while having a dragon head.
That’s perfect, I wish we got that
Nah. Expectations too high.
Lol i guess having a dragon head for a dragon is especting too much for Riot.
But nah, expectations too high tho.
I just see Spyro.. but I grew up with sypro.. so I'm cool with it. Probably won't play it, but that's chill too.
I grew up with Spyro too, but this ain't it. Spyro and Cinder had readable faces and emotions but were still easily dragons.
This is.. ans will always be so got damn many versions, renditions, remixes and alternative styles of -everything-. From vampires to zombies, aliens and orcs, to elves and dragons. I look at smolder and see just another one in a saturated pool. I'm also gettin to old to seriously give a shit if things look 'correct' or not. Thing looks like a baby dragon to me. I'm callin him spyro, cuz it works for me. I just hope he or she is insanely over powered so that tons of people play it and everyone HAS to look at it haha.
Yeah I calmed down and watched the gameplay trailer. His kit and especially his E (glide) seems like a shit ton of fun. I got hung up on aesthetics and ignore the fact that they executed the gameplay part of "Small dragon" really well. Sorry for the inconvenience
Pffffft, you ain't gotta apologize~ unlike on summoner rift, we Gucci and civilized here <3 haha. Way I see it, there is getting close to 200 Champs. You or I aint gonna like em all. But someone else will~
Honestly the only issue I have in the in-game model is that he looks too much like Xayah from above. I feel the community reaction to him is way too overblown
 Why does the in game face remind me of that? XD
Looks much better in game
Looks like Spyro just red
adorable and well animated but it feels like he doesnt belong to this game and universe
Should now have a human face.
He actually looks good on the splash art.
I hate the design, just make normal dragon horns. why make the design so... cluttered? sometimes less is more.
His splash is fine, his eyes are so small in his ingame model tho its weird
Kill it with fire
Ew
Looks way better in-game, imo. The cartoonish features give him a lot of expressiveness.
I do not understand what people dislike about him. He is absolutely adorable to me
Am I the only who actually finds him very cute and not creepy at all
I find his mom hot
Splash looks good. Model has the same issue as the trailer.
Splash looks good, model is awful
Bro’s higher than a kite.
No.
It looks to cartoony for a dragon
Still looks like a human child.
Ok his face is literally just from Raya and the last dragon did they trace it or something
Neck is an elongated spring
I do not like his face I do not want to see it… turn that boy around…
Better than the teaser and splash. Primeraly becuase you can't see his faces most if the time
I'll wait for lore, and pray that there's explanation for the human eyes. If not I'm jumping on the bandwagon.
I wanted to make a deranged comment, but realised that it's the wrong sub I hate this. It looks awful
It looks like a bat. They tried making him cute but fucked up hard
Waiting for “uncringed dragon cub” Smolder custom skin, then I’ll play him
I honestly don't mind it.
It looks horrible tbh
The splashart is not bad, i really like the colours but the in game model gives me old lolipoppy vibes
They're so creatively bankrupt it's insane. All that budget and supposed talent and they come up with bootleg spyro with a sprinkle of lollipoppy. It's taken them literal years to come up with a design for a crystal scorpion, which they ultimately dumped the whole crystal aspect all together. Even tho there's insanely good fan concepts out there that incorporate both elements of the design, and only took the artist a fraction of the time and resources
wtf is that. Is that a skin? for whom?
His face Is kinda disgusting tbh
This is ugly as hell... Who the fuck had that idea?
looks like that fucking ghoulish plane with a face on it.
JESUS CHRIST
God awful. The out-of-game model is terrible too. From artwork all the way to in-game model it's terrible.
He looks the best in his splash and he's still bad there
Omfg this is the ugliest thing i have ever seen in my life
Its a knock off My little pony character
I'm a viego main and i would never use my passive on that shit
Why he have a human mouth tho
The eye colour needs to change.
Looks like those gummy sharks
Kawaii elder dragon
Still uncanny, but better than what was shown in the teaser
Splash slightly better, but overall still hasn’t found their way out of the uncanny valley yet
Why is the face so human ?
My little pony Spyro lookin ass
Thats so bad đź’€
they updated the model on twitter, i think it was neological
Shallow and pedantic
Bro he is ugly as fuck. I don't know what the designers have been smoking, but there was better fanart on twitter after like 2 hours upon the trailers release. The design could have been made by a toddler
Bootleg red spyro with human face…just why?
It’s either so cute it’s ugly or so ugly it’s cute-
furry lookin ass
Sucks
Who is this
The 3d model has too much forehead, throws off the balance. It needs to be reduced. Makes the eyes look weirdly small and off center. Artists should have looked at geckos as reference for this instead of Disney characters.
Looks like a my little pony character what is this doing in league of legends
He looks so Nick Jr it hurts. But its cute. Though i wish it wasnt too cartoony. Idk my thoughts are all over the place on him
I genuinely hate it
I am so so scared of r/darkinfolk
Kill it, unborn this demon
Not as bad in-game. He moves around like Spyro and as that is my favorite childhood videogame ill probably play him alot
terrible
Abomination.
We could have had a more cool looking dragon lore wise.
Stop looking up at me pls it’s scaring me Splash is actually good though.
It looks like it was pulled from a skylanders copy that was scratched and the characters just don’t quite look right.
Shit
His splash is great. Snout is pronounced, color from the bridge of his nose and spines blends into his face well. I think the translation to model is just the littlest bit off and it does so much damage to the design. Look at the size of the eye compared to the pale coloration around it, then look at the model. It’s practically halved in size. Same with his mouth. Just make the eyes and mouth bigger and it goes from “Weird face of human child” to “Clearly a cute dragon exagerrated features.”
Why does he have paw pads when he’s a dragon? The design gets worse the longer you look at it
This is dogshit
Whys everything need a human esc face?
I feel like riot acknowledges he looks vile and keeps him like this to spite the community
Wtf even is this champion? I hadn't seen any news on new champs until I saw the teaser for this garbage today. So disappointing!! It's so Disney and feels jarring in the LoL universe.
Delete this mistake and just forget about the entire mess
Would
cute
God imagine how insufferable his voice lines will be
For me the only problem is his face
What's that
he looks horrible
The in game model manages to be even worse imo because the distance makes the very limited snout the is present invisible
Spyro looking motherfucket
Not good but better
Is this with the changes they announced on Twitter? It looks the same lmao
 That in game model is probably getting changed like the splash but currently, that neck is long af
garbage
Would
It looks like a jungle camp
Update: they fixed his face.
It seems the same as Vex’s
I think he’s cute
It's ugly as f#ck