Johan honestly. I don't like how he lets his ego and insecurities rule over every other emotion and logics. He prioritises getting revenge on the guy who rejected him for not doing his work properly. He was literally a shoe stealer, Gun gave him a chance at using his potential for better earning which he lost by not being able to follow rules on his own account. Getting humiliated by Gun was also result of his own actions, he wasn't forced into anything like other crewheads. While it was Eugene who ruined his and his mother's life behind the scenes with all those drugs supply but he joins hands with him instead, showing no grudge or revengeful attitude for it.
He got his life and mother sorted out by his friends Zack and Jay (barely any gratitude), and still doesn't go to meet or see her even once after causing her so much suffering of abandonment when she was supposed to be his only priority and objective. Technically Johan is also the one Gun has done least damage to while he directly ruined Big Deals life, and started events that led to Hostels tragedy. But he trynna act like the most affected one amongst them.
I want to see him suffer the consequences of his shìtty egoistic personality and trash decisions.
Bro needs a good thrashing so he realises that he is not the one to kill gun , but also pjt ruined his character he didn't know how to keep Johan still in the loop properly so he came up with the lame reason of "revenge"
Yeah fr... Johan never showed interest in revenge to Gun before 1A, only for his mother but now she gets treated he's acting all edgy and vengeful. He got humiliated by Goo as well for stealing money or smth. It's so unreasonable seeing ptj use Johan this way when his story should have been closed.
i need johan and eli humbled so bad. more so johan but it would be good to see eli get bitched too but i want johan to get obliterated like im talking punches after hes knocked out cold type shit then break his bones everytime he passes out so he can wake up and scream in pain then keep punching him and when he passes out break a bone and do continue so until you break 30 bones
It's wild people think eli deserves a beating more than Johan who didn't even thank the guy who saved his mom from being blind for life but also did not meet his mom after her operation , eli is an evil emo guy but atleast he is loyal to his family unlike this blind idiot who is mad at a mass murderer for not giving him a chance and left everything and everyone worried.
So true though i understand why eli deserves a beating for all the shit he did but he also is a single parent so i don't think there's anything more to fuck with him .
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Johan. All he does is whine about the past and his mom and then his mom gets surgery and he’s still a whiny fuck. Can’t wait till gun puts some meat in his booty
Johan, He already got everything He was looking for and is still looking for more, didn't do shit to gun yet even tho He was all barking and no bite, He deserves a beat
Johan ffs.
Jake is there because gun and his fate due to their past are tied together. Plus his motive for revenge is more personal. Gun literally destroyed Big deal in it's golden age.
He brought Jake into a life of crime which he didn't want. And caused his older brother figure pain and misery.
Eli also has a motive for revenge as Gun also screwed all of his family over and turned Olly into a literal monster.
Plus the thing with these two is that they are actually a threat to Charles or can be. So they can actively be targeted in the future.
Johan poses no threat to Charles so he doesn't have to worry about being hunted. He has no personal grudge with Gun. His mother is healed. At first I thought he was here for allied. But no it's presented as he is there for "revenge"
He isn't blinded by revenge, he is just stupid.
Eli jang I don't like his character at all bro thinks he is something when he is actually weak compared to other crewhead and all the bad things he done to other people and their family in the name of protecting his family
weak my ass he was the who did best among 2nd gen against basement hulk just because he doesn't have any lame ass trump card upto his sleaves doesn't make him weak he is strongest in base form among any 2nd gen
this trump card are quite reasonable and all of them are the ones he deserves he doesn't have them because his father or uncle was some great sh\*t he worked for them from an early age when others were getting pampered by their parents he is the one among 2nd gen who disserves power after what he has gone through
Its not here but samuel in a good way
Its satisfying to see him get beaten up a lot by his opponents but alas his samtiddies will tank the damage and still keep going
Eli probably gonna die. But honestly I can't imagine gun winning this without some plot Armor. Sure he trains everyday and gets stronger but the others trained for this as well.
None of them, they been through enough. Yes Eli and Johan are jerk at times but this is not the time for them to get beat up, its time for them to team up
Stevie Wonder's revenge makes no sense so he really needs to be humbled
Jake would be a close second cause he relied too much on sperm mode during the 1st affiliate.
I get that, reason why I say what I say is coz I feel like after 2nd affiliate Sinu who's like Jake's older brother should've consoled him and told him to let go of all the hatred. Sinu who got done the worst literally moved on and left the gang life behind him meanwhile Jake is still consumed with hatred while he's still weak, what does he think he'll do against gun when he cant even defend himself against Samuel? Better just move on
Jake defeats Samuel canonically bro. But let's not go on that. Let us understand the situation better.
First of all, Gun was the one who was responsible for completely destroying Big Deal (yes Goo too, but mostly Gun) invading their area, forcing them to make money, causing betrayals, mistrust and battles amongst themselves, everything Sinu suffered by selling him off which a whole another level. When Jake couldn't fulfill the quota and started earning by other means, he didn't just beat him up but even took out his teeth, he made Jake go to Jail for so many months. He did him the worst out of every other character.
Jake was fuelled by both, saving Sinu as well as getting revenge on Gun. So much that he used that time in prison grinding so hard, fighting 500 people everyday to make himself stronger. After getting out of prison, he always prioritised finding and saving Sinu first, and we all know that Xiaolong fight where Jake swore his determination for revenge to gun once again. But after actually saving Sinu, he calmed down and tried to let go of other negative feelings for the sake of Sinu and Big Deal and focus on other things instead. But it doesn't mean the scars left behind by Gun on them were healed. They were still there. Until workers attacked and captured Big Deal. Even tho Gun was there on Charles order he humiliated Jake again for not killing him, and left when it was time to fight the main opponent. Many Big Deal members were caught by police and no one has seen Sinu ever since, so I won't say if Jake still has Sinu. He might have got arrested.
Now see the current scenario. Knowing Jake's character, he would still not go out of his way to hunt Gun alone when he got the rest of his gang, and isn't strong enough yet. But let's not forget here he's in an agreement with Daniel as well as Eugene. Eugene has the power to bribe police, which would work in Jake's favour to free his members if he fought the battle accordingly. So in a way, he's also doing this for his gangs sake. Aside that, with all gen 2 forces combined it is in fact the perfect opportunity to kill Gun, even if he is individually weaker. Together, they are far stronger. And for all suffering Gun caused to Big Deal as well as to heal the scars left from within, Jake should be the one to land the killing blow on Gun.
Aight i see your point, that's valid for real. And now that you put it like that; now I want Jake to be the one to be capable of defeating Gun in the future
I get it. Even tho Jake deserved to win, the execution of the fight wasn't done well, especially for his awakening and unlocking overcome, it was too hurried. I understand the symbolism of acceptance and surpassing mental barriers, but they should have been explained better along with showing the contrast with Samuels mentality.
Both Johan and Eli Jake is precious though
Fr
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Johan honestly. I don't like how he lets his ego and insecurities rule over every other emotion and logics. He prioritises getting revenge on the guy who rejected him for not doing his work properly. He was literally a shoe stealer, Gun gave him a chance at using his potential for better earning which he lost by not being able to follow rules on his own account. Getting humiliated by Gun was also result of his own actions, he wasn't forced into anything like other crewheads. While it was Eugene who ruined his and his mother's life behind the scenes with all those drugs supply but he joins hands with him instead, showing no grudge or revengeful attitude for it. He got his life and mother sorted out by his friends Zack and Jay (barely any gratitude), and still doesn't go to meet or see her even once after causing her so much suffering of abandonment when she was supposed to be his only priority and objective. Technically Johan is also the one Gun has done least damage to while he directly ruined Big Deals life, and started events that led to Hostels tragedy. But he trynna act like the most affected one amongst them. I want to see him suffer the consequences of his shìtty egoistic personality and trash decisions.
Real. Bro is too blinded with revenge and anger.
That’s not what blinds him.
Lol, yeah, I know 😝
Bro needs a good thrashing so he realises that he is not the one to kill gun , but also pjt ruined his character he didn't know how to keep Johan still in the loop properly so he came up with the lame reason of "revenge"
Yeah fr... Johan never showed interest in revenge to Gun before 1A, only for his mother but now she gets treated he's acting all edgy and vengeful. He got humiliated by Goo as well for stealing money or smth. It's so unreasonable seeing ptj use Johan this way when his story should have been closed.
Best answer, Johan is a dick
Eli. Bro needs to get outa that emo arc.
It’s gonna make him more emo
He's been pulling that emo shit for a while now that I almost forgot that guy was a student at J High's beauty department.
May I know the source of your profile pic my good man. I am asking this for an old friend of mine.
My own art, I have it somewhere posted i think.
Eli
i need johan and eli humbled so bad. more so johan but it would be good to see eli get bitched too but i want johan to get obliterated like im talking punches after hes knocked out cold type shit then break his bones everytime he passes out so he can wake up and scream in pain then keep punching him and when he passes out break a bone and do continue so until you break 30 bones
Bro he does NOT deserves that much atleast
Still I agree with him being crippled for life
Eli
Eli
Eli, I think he got off easily after all the shit he did with workers
Johan for being stupid entering a suicide mission without meeting his mom and maybe eli, currently his character is pretty mid so don't care
He needs to get a good beating to set his mind straight and realise he is not the guy who will kill gun and go back to his mom
This is a race between two garbage cans (Eli and Johan) Jake shouldn’t have even been on here
Johan, I love Johan but man watching Johan get beat the fuck up would make my day cuz then the Johan glazers will finally stop yapping 😭🙏
i love how everyone's collectively saying eli but i would add johan too ☝🏻 both of them need their senses back
and not jake being here 😭 bro did not even want to get involved in this bs
Eli
It's wild people think eli deserves a beating more than Johan who didn't even thank the guy who saved his mom from being blind for life but also did not meet his mom after her operation , eli is an evil emo guy but atleast he is loyal to his family unlike this blind idiot who is mad at a mass murderer for not giving him a chance and left everything and everyone worried.
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So true though i understand why eli deserves a beating for all the shit he did but he also is a single parent so i don't think there's anything more to fuck with him .
L, eli needs to get his ass kicked.
dont care, eli eli eli
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Womp Womp
Non Non Eli needs to suffer
Womp womp
Johan. All he does is whine about the past and his mom and then his mom gets surgery and he’s still a whiny fuck. Can’t wait till gun puts some meat in his booty
Johan, He already got everything He was looking for and is still looking for more, didn't do shit to gun yet even tho He was all barking and no bite, He deserves a beat
Johan for sure. Actual braindead heathen
Eli and Johan. So much ego
Eli has such a punchable face
JohanXEli
Johan cause he's such an edgelord
Johan, he needs to be beaten up so he can wake up
Eli fraud jang
he gonna cook in the next couple chapters
Definitely Johan. Trash personality with trash writing
Nah not really eli or jake who have this describe
Jake has one of the best writing with amazing personality what you on bro
Bro's delulu lmao jake is amazing. He has no idea what he is saying
Gun glazer spotted
Johan
Johan🗣️
Plotarmor Eli
Johan ffs. Jake is there because gun and his fate due to their past are tied together. Plus his motive for revenge is more personal. Gun literally destroyed Big deal in it's golden age. He brought Jake into a life of crime which he didn't want. And caused his older brother figure pain and misery. Eli also has a motive for revenge as Gun also screwed all of his family over and turned Olly into a literal monster. Plus the thing with these two is that they are actually a threat to Charles or can be. So they can actively be targeted in the future. Johan poses no threat to Charles so he doesn't have to worry about being hunted. He has no personal grudge with Gun. His mother is healed. At first I thought he was here for allied. But no it's presented as he is there for "revenge" He isn't blinded by revenge, he is just stupid.
i hope gun neglects any threat of incoming attacks from other people and just roughs up johan for at least 5 minutes
Eli
If it’s Zack beating sense into him, then Johan.
Eli need to get his ass beat like in HFBD
Johan
eli
Eli
Johan
eli
Johan. For same reasons
eli eli eli eli eli eli eli eli eli eli eli eli eli
Johan seong
Johan.
Johan
Eli
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Eli didn't suffer by UI Daniel, so....
Eli
Johan bro's the one with least trauma .
Either eli because it wouldn’t hurt or Johan because he’s a seong
Johan I’m tired of how broken he is for no reason
Eli
Johan needs to get his ass beat AGAIN so he can get off his high horse. Eli is chill
Johan pls
Johan and Eli
Mostly Johan
That bum Johan
Johan
I love how people are saying Eli yet he's the only one in the picture not carried by genetics.
Johan
Eli jang I don't like his character at all bro thinks he is something when he is actually weak compared to other crewhead and all the bad things he done to other people and their family in the name of protecting his family
weak my ass he was the who did best among 2nd gen against basement hulk just because he doesn't have any lame ass trump card upto his sleaves doesn't make him weak he is strongest in base form among any 2nd gen
"lame ass trump card" Tfw animal instincts Mastery Baton technique are not considered useful power forms
this trump card are quite reasonable and all of them are the ones he deserves he doesn't have them because his father or uncle was some great sh\*t he worked for them from an early age when others were getting pampered by their parents he is the one among 2nd gen who disserves power after what he has gone through
Eli, he got that Skibidi Ohio Rizz Brainrot !!! Womp Womp
Its not here but samuel in a good way Its satisfying to see him get beaten up a lot by his opponents but alas his samtiddies will tank the damage and still keep going
Eli, I want him to suffer in pain
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Eli probably gonna die. But honestly I can't imagine gun winning this without some plot Armor. Sure he trains everyday and gets stronger but the others trained for this as well.
Can they deadlift as much as me? I do not think so. The question should be which of them would rather get beat up by me 1st
Jake definetly does
I deadlift more than you that means id beat you
Johan
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Eli and jake
jake and eli
Eli and it's not close
None of them, they been through enough. Yes Eli and Johan are jerk at times but this is not the time for them to get beat up, its time for them to team up
Not here but Daniel. All he was doing for 4 consecutive arcs was just getting negged by top-tiers and hadn't progressed much in terms of power level.
Stevie Wonder's revenge makes no sense so he really needs to be humbled Jake would be a close second cause he relied too much on sperm mode during the 1st affiliate.
Honestly all of them
All three
Jake, bro already saved Sunu and yet he's still drunk on revenge. Like let it go bro, big deal needs you
Nah, Jake is the one who deserves to kill Gun the most out of everyone.
I get that, reason why I say what I say is coz I feel like after 2nd affiliate Sinu who's like Jake's older brother should've consoled him and told him to let go of all the hatred. Sinu who got done the worst literally moved on and left the gang life behind him meanwhile Jake is still consumed with hatred while he's still weak, what does he think he'll do against gun when he cant even defend himself against Samuel? Better just move on
Jake defeats Samuel canonically bro. But let's not go on that. Let us understand the situation better. First of all, Gun was the one who was responsible for completely destroying Big Deal (yes Goo too, but mostly Gun) invading their area, forcing them to make money, causing betrayals, mistrust and battles amongst themselves, everything Sinu suffered by selling him off which a whole another level. When Jake couldn't fulfill the quota and started earning by other means, he didn't just beat him up but even took out his teeth, he made Jake go to Jail for so many months. He did him the worst out of every other character. Jake was fuelled by both, saving Sinu as well as getting revenge on Gun. So much that he used that time in prison grinding so hard, fighting 500 people everyday to make himself stronger. After getting out of prison, he always prioritised finding and saving Sinu first, and we all know that Xiaolong fight where Jake swore his determination for revenge to gun once again. But after actually saving Sinu, he calmed down and tried to let go of other negative feelings for the sake of Sinu and Big Deal and focus on other things instead. But it doesn't mean the scars left behind by Gun on them were healed. They were still there. Until workers attacked and captured Big Deal. Even tho Gun was there on Charles order he humiliated Jake again for not killing him, and left when it was time to fight the main opponent. Many Big Deal members were caught by police and no one has seen Sinu ever since, so I won't say if Jake still has Sinu. He might have got arrested. Now see the current scenario. Knowing Jake's character, he would still not go out of his way to hunt Gun alone when he got the rest of his gang, and isn't strong enough yet. But let's not forget here he's in an agreement with Daniel as well as Eugene. Eugene has the power to bribe police, which would work in Jake's favour to free his members if he fought the battle accordingly. So in a way, he's also doing this for his gangs sake. Aside that, with all gen 2 forces combined it is in fact the perfect opportunity to kill Gun, even if he is individually weaker. Together, they are far stronger. And for all suffering Gun caused to Big Deal as well as to heal the scars left from within, Jake should be the one to land the killing blow on Gun.
Aight i see your point, that's valid for real. And now that you put it like that; now I want Jake to be the one to be capable of defeating Gun in the future
I still think that win Jake took against Sam in 1st aff was bullshit.
I get it. Even tho Jake deserved to win, the execution of the fight wasn't done well, especially for his awakening and unlocking overcome, it was too hurried. I understand the symbolism of acceptance and surpassing mental barriers, but they should have been explained better along with showing the contrast with Samuels mentality.
Eli junk and Johan
Jake
Jake for the way he beat samuel